Pioli Has Two Strikes
"He swings….. He misses….. Strike One." That was a curve Ball, low and away. Pioli had a long look at that one. His timing was just off. Yeah, that serving of Todd Haley looked good. It was enticing as it floated up to the plate. Haley seemed to be a home run at first. He came with a reputation of being an offensive genus that could create magic where there was nothing but promise. Haley came with Bluster and bravado and left without a whimper. Strike One against Pioli.
"He swings ….he misses…. Strike Two." Who could pass up a fast ball right down the middle? Matt Cassel looks too good to pass up. This is just like Batting Practice. (Vrabel is a bonus because he’ll bring the beer and popcorn.) Wow! He should have seen that one coming. It looked like a Fast Ball but it was a Slider that dropped right off the table. Strike Two against Pioli.
"He swings…. He misses…..Strike Three. No wait… that was a foul Tip… Pioli did just barely manage to get a part of it. " Hey! That wasn’t fair. He was the victim of a "Quick Pitch". That should have been an illegal pitch. The Draft was on him before he was ready and he just got a piece of it. Tyson Jackson seemed good enough to take a cut at and Alex Magee was there as well. Donald Washington would not have been worth swinging at if only the batter was ready. At least Succup managed to save the "at bat".
Here comes Free Agency. Check Swing foul tip on Smith. The batter gets another foul tip on Urban and then Copper. ….Here is another pitch. A surprise two out bunt attempt does not work as the ball is just outside the strike zone for "Ball One". On the next pitches, Siler, Gregg and Piscatelli were weak efforts at best and Pioli had to reach to just get enough bat on the ball to foul them off. ….. A line foul ball with McClain keeps Pioli at the plate…… He gets solid contact with Breaston but that shot just lands foul, short of the fence.
"Casey Pioli" is still at bat. Mighty "Casey Pioli" has had a few swings at it, but just hasn’t connected. My only disappointment is that we have not had many mighty cuts lately. "Mighty Casey" (Down in the Count) is trying to hang on during this at bat, with check swings and foul tips.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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What are all these baseball pictures doing
on mah football blog!?
/curmudgeon
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
This just confirms
What I have said all along that baseball is the gayest “sport” ever.
by Spiderwomn69 on Dec 13, 2011 2:27 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions 3 recs
Synchronized swimming would like a word with you.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Dec 13, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm Pretty sure that Clancy and Muir where strikes...
Pioli has been delightfully average.
He has done some good things and some bad things. It is time for him to step up and make some real football moves. He needs some experienced help, but will he be to good to ask?
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Dec 13, 2011 4:40 PM CST reply actions
How much of Pendergast and Muir were on Haley though?
I’d imagine those two moves had more to do with Haley than Pioli.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
True, but Pioli signed the contracts for every coach...
He okay’d it, I am not saying Haley wasn’t the main influence, but Pioli gets the blame too.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Dec 13, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
When Pioli tossed Haley a rope.....
it was only enough for Haley to hang himself with. No tossing of a life preserver. Pioli has been very “safe” in his moves. Even worse may have been his “non-moves” in free agency.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
I would actually think not playing Gaither and keeping Stanzi on the bench....
…. can be traced to Muir’s influence. That is one more reason to question Muir as OC in the first place. The lack of offensive success and who plays are (in the end) on Haley. But his faith in Muir was a big part of Haley’s downfall. Pioli just has not helped much except a few long term signings of our own players.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Not really holding the Cassel thing against Pioli.
There weren’t a lot of QB options out there and it was better that he at least took a swing at someone rather than roll into a 2009 rebuild with Thigpen. Now… if he continues to stand by Cassel and refuses to make an effort to find a better QB, then he gets a strike.
As for the 2009 draft, I’ve posted this several times throughout AP and I just don’t feel like getting all the numbers right now, so take it or leave it: the 2009 draft class for the entire NFL was one of the shallowest and worst talent pools in recent memory.
Something like about half of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks either haven’t started 50% of the available games, and a large majority of those players aren’t even on teams anymore.
Just look at some of the TOP 10 picks from that draft:
.#2 – Jason Smith, OT – 26 of 45 games started, playing LT on one of the worst OLs in the NFL
.#4 – Aaron Curry, LB – traded to OAK for a 7th and conditional 5th round pick
.#6 – Andre Smith, OT, – 17 of 45 games started.
.#10 – Michael Crabtree, WR, – 2000 yards and 10 TDs in almost 3 years.
And that’s leaving out the head scratching reach of Heyward-Bey.
The 2009 draft class was overall one of the worst talent pools in a LONG time.
The fact that Pioli got a 34 DE that is currently 14th in the NFL among DL for tackles and a kicker that has the longest active FG made streak deserves some slack for Pioli when you seriously look at the overall results of the 2009 class all across the NFL.
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
You can take positives and negatives out of every situation
if you stare at it long enough. Then you can make a compelling argument on both sides.
The bottom line is the Chiefs have to do better. No matter who Scott Pioli chooses, they have to do better or he will be gone too.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Dec 13, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Facts speak for themselves.
The 2009 draft class as a whole, when looked at all across the NFL was pretty bad.
Pioli is already starting to show that 2009 was the exception to the rule:
2010:
Eric Berry
Javier Arenas
Kendrick Lewis
Jon Asamoah
tony Moweaki
2011:
Jon Baldwin
Rodney Hudson – the one game he started was against PIT and it is the least amount of sacks the Chiefs gave up in the last 5 games.
Justin Houston
(so far)
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
A GM's job is to find talent...
Pioli is a multiple winner of the Executive of the Year award for making seemingly good moves as an NFL suit.
It was his job to find talent in a draft devoid of talent… That is and was his job, that is why he got paid and no excuses should be made.
Scott Pioli has done some great things (I bolded it because I think you believe I think he is terrible, not true.)
However, he has also made some bad decisions. Such as hire a Head Coach lacking in experience and firing him before his third season was over. Trade Miami for dreadful lineman. Made questionable moves in free agency (Goff, Piscetelli.)
With Scott Pioli you take the good with the bad, and there has been some of both. It is time for him to do more bad than good, and it starts with this coaching change.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Dec 13, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
woops, more good than bad, and it starts with this coaching change.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Dec 13, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
How many of those guys in 2010 and 2011 are guys that Haley stood on the table for though?
Eric Berry is one for sure. I liked the fact that he working in the scouting dept, before and could also bounce ideas off his father, Dick Haley, good, old player personnel director.. Now that Todd won’t be in the draft room I’ll be interested to see if Pioli keeps up with the 2010 and 2011 drafts. If you look at Pioli’s last 3 drafts with NE (2006-2008) I think there are only 3 players out of 19 selected still on the Pats roster (Mayo, Gostkowski, , Le Kevin Smith). one of them is on the Chiefs roster (O’Callahan). Go back to 2004 and 2005 and there are 2 more players out of 15 still on the Pats roster (Mankins, Wilfork). Another on the Chiefs roster (Cassel). Easy answer why the Pats defense is terrible and without Brady, Welker, Gronk they wouldn’t be a playoff team. In summary, there are 5 players out of 34 still on the NE roster from the 2004-2008 Pioli-Belichek drafts. Even CP and Herm hit at a higher rate during this time period.
Yeah it was a very weak draft. That is the reason he has gotten somewhat of a pass.
It would have been a good time to trade picks for players though. Pioli has talked bold but his actions in three drafts and Free agency have been rather timid IMO.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Really?
You don’t think the 2010 draft wasn’t one of the best in the NFL, and that 2011 isn’t already showing some promise?
"saints_chiefsfan1979 is a genius" - yes, I lost a bet.
Pioli Drafts:
2009: Give a pass.
2010:
Eric Berry – Who could miss on 5th overall?
Javier Arenas & Dex have been role players at best, Arenas mainly on STs.
Kendrick Lewis – He is good enough to make our roster and he plays.
Jon Asamoah – See above.
Tony Moeaki – Potential to be very good if he stays healthy. Better rec’r than blocker.
2011:
Jon Baldwin – So far he has dropped more than caught. Has potential.
Rodney Hudson – the one game he started was against PIT and it is the least amount of sacks the Chiefs gave up in the last 5 games. O-Line sucks.
Justin Houston – I like his potential.
Consider that the average NFL team loses 7 to 10 players a year through attrition. Pioli has barely kept pace and so far the main contribution of his aquisitions have been role players and adequate position players. Three or four may become great, but by then we will have lost three or four similar players. Like Chief-blinders-on said, Pioli needs to do better.
What Pioli has not addressed:
ROT- Richardson is like a subway turnstile.
OG/C- Whichever Hudson does not play needs to be addressed.
RB- Compliment to JC needs to be in place now.
TE- Moeaki is not enough.
NT- Gregg was handled one on one by New York Center.
DE/DT- No ability to cave in a pocket is glaring.
LB- Belcher is improving this year but we need quality dept at LB anyway.
CB- No NFL team can get by with only two cover corners. Arenas is not a cover corner.
FS- Need quality or depth. Lewis is just ok.
SS- Need Quality depth.
There are 10 positions that need to be upgraded for the Chiefs to have a realistic chance to move to upper end of elite teams. This number may be even larger when you consider attrition. Either upgrade from below average to average or from average to good or from good to All-Star. Pioli is falling behind on aquiring quality, upgraded talent.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
The above list of needs does not even mention need at QB.
A play maker at QB would limit the damage done by missing one or two of the other needs. A game manager would require all the parts around him to function a lot better than they do now.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
It is kind of funny. Pioli is really kind of screwed.
Unless, of course, he can hit a home-run with the new coach. A great coach that does great things for many years.
People who hate Haley are angry that Pioli hired him in the first place. People who like Haley are angry that Pioli fired like he did. And just about everyone is fed up with the lack of depth on the roster.
Exactly.
Pioli has two strikes, down in the count , yet he must be thinking extra bases and not hope for a free pass, bunt or balk.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
































