Ramblings of an Idiot: Crying Fowl
October is long gone. The month of the win streak has passed, and the scraggly, gray-spattered, pubic-bush looking beard will be shaved away. (Not a moment too soon IMO. Haley has spent the last month looking like a train car hopping hobo. I bet he went out Halloween night carrying a broom pole on his shoulder with a red kerchief tied to the far end of it.) November (the month of the great Turkey slaughter) began with a THUD for the comeback Chiefs. The picture above represents not only the new month, but also the new game day uniforms of the Chiefs offensive (and believe me, their play was definitely offensive) linemen. Hint for the slower thinkers among you: In what country will you find Istanbul?
Let me back up a step; I'm not here to whine about the loss or to blame one group of players above others. Every member of the Chiefs squad (players and coaches) worked hand in hand to stink up the field against the Dolphins. That game was a perfect storm of ineptitude, failed execution, unpreparedness, and inability to adjust. The soaring eagle that was the October Chiefs flew south for the winter, to be replaced by a a flock of lame ducks. The Dolphins gutted, de-feathered, and slow cooked our team and then hung them in the front window of the local Chinese restaurant to be served up as Peking Duck to the starving anchors of every NFL game-day recap show on the air. Worst of all, it happened right there at Arrowhead Stadium. Chiefs fans could smell the BBQing duck in the parking lot, where only hours before they had been tailgating. All trace of the wondrous odors of burnt ends and sausage links gave way to the stink of scorched feathers and rendered fat. The previously win-less Dolphins feasted on 5-star gourmet meal of a 4 game win streak.
Does that mean I'm officially off the bandwagon? (I can hear the suck-for-Luck crowd and the scavenger bird-like negative Nancy's licking their lips at the prospect of stumbling upon another rotted corpse) Of course not. My Chiefs passion never would have survived the Vermeil and Edwards years of complete defensive failure if it were so weak as to be shaken by a handful of bad games. All it means is that I have to focus my keen eagle eyed vision on the big picture, rather than the latest debacle.
In bowling, a streak of 3 consecutive strikes is called a 'turkey'. As much as I'd like to apply that same winged moniker to Carson Palmer's 3 INT game, I'll have to choose a different flying creature to represent his second straight game with 3 passing turnovers. (perhaps quail, because it sounds so much like fail) I expected the Raiders to lose to the Donkeys last weekend. And make no mistake, that's what happened. The Raiders lost. The Broncos did not win. The Raiders are the worst team in the league against the run. They give up 5.9 yards per carry. They are ranked 29th in the league in overall run defense. They can't tackle, and that's why they made Tim Tebow look like an actual NFL QB. Watching the Raiders try to tackle a runner reminds me of a flock of squawking penguins diving headfirst into the ocean with their wings down flat on their sides. Worse yet for Oakland, the run defense isn't the worst part of their team. The QB play (and the huge price they payed to get Palmer) will be the undoing of their team. Carson Palmer has been out of football for far too long. He looked only slightly better after 3 weeks than he did after one. He has no timing down with any of his receivers, and with only 1/2 a season left to play he won't be firing on all cylinders until mid December. Scooping T.J. Houshmanzada Houchmandadeh Houshmundza....... T.J. Spellcheck-Killer off the scrap heap is quite obviously a desperate attempt to bring in a receiver that Carson can develop some kind of report and timing with soon enough for the Palmer addition to translate into a few wins. Oakland isn't dead in the water yet, but they may very well be out of the race by the time you sit down to eat your Thanksgiving fowl.
Tim Tebow has played 3 NFL games. He was absolutely terrible for 55 minutes of his first game, and ran enough to give him the ability to toss up a couple wobbly ugly passes in the last 3 minutes to pull out a win. His second game looked worse than his first, and he didn't bother to look good for 5 minutes at the end of the game. Tim Tebow has the heart of a winner. Unfortunately, that heart is stuck with the arm of Tyrannosaurus Rex and the throwing mechanics of Foghorn Leghorn on a 3 day bender. To make matters worse, Denver traded away the best receiver on their squad after naming Tebow the starter. Even if he's able to create late game heroics for the Donkeys he doesn't have the down-field weapons to sustain a winning streak. I take no joy in bursting J-Man's bubble, but the Broncos' goose is already cooked. They are not going to win the division, and every single one of the 'oh so few' wins that Tebow manages to get from here until the end of the season will simply make it more and more expensive for Denver to trade up in the 2012 draft to get a quarterback. The Donkey's are already a corpse, even if they don't know it yet. Buzzards are, right now, circling above Mile High Stadium (or whatever stupid corporate sponsored name it has now) intent on picking the last morsel of meat from the bones of Tim Tebow's NFL career in Denver.
In my view, that leaves just the Chargers (led by a black throated warbler QB) and the Chiefs to fight it out for the division crown. Popular opinion will tell you that San Diego is the more talented team. If Moeaki, Berry and Charles were on the field I wouldn't agree; but without them I'll have to concede that argument. The Chiefs have a lot of talent on the field. The majority of their players are either still in the chickadee stage of their careers, or just now passing it. Over 3 seasons they have drafted, and developed young players to build a team that can sustain itself for many years. Bowe and (I believe) Baldwin are going to become the dominate pass catching force of the AFC in years to come; while Jackson wants out from under A.J. Smith's thumb and Gates continues suffering form injuries.
Forgetting about the long term sustainability of the 2 teams for the moment we should look to the injury charts for a better understanding of this years chances. Castillo and Dielman are out. Phillips is doubtful. Diggs, Floyd, and Mathews are questionable. Tolbert, Jackson and Gates are listed as probable; and if Mathews and Tolbert don't play...Brinkley is listed as questionable after a concussion. The Chargers roadrunners are all sporting club feet while their wide outs have clipped wings. They still have the better QB (did someone just stab me in the side as I typed that) at least in terms of talent. But I wouldn't trade Cassel for Rivers straight up if they made the offer. The last thing the Chiefs need is a crybaby at the helm.
The Chiefs have McGraw doubtful and Arenas questionable. We seem to be snake-bit when it comes to secondary injuries. Pioli should invest in a couple Serpent Eagles (so named because they eat primarily snakes) to fly circles over the game day field. Obviously I'm leaving out the 7 foot tall yellow big birds that are already out for the season. but all in all the team is relatively healthy. They have more than a fighting chance to win the division and make the playoffs. Anything can happen in the playoffs, so I won't be throwing in the towel on our season just yet.
The carrion birds are in the clouds circling the AFC West, but at this point no one can say who their next target might be. With all 3 division leaders losing in the same week the Chiefs aren't any worse off after losing to Miami than they were before the game was played. They didn't gain any ground, and they threw away a golden opportunity to add on another win before heading into the scariest part of the schedule. But with a win this coming weekend against another division opponent the Chiefs would be in the kingfisher seat in the division. True, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush (please don't make me type bush anymore. It brings back memories of Sunday's game), and I shouldn't be counting the chickens before they hatch (have I reached the requisite number of bird references yet?) ... but I firmly believe that the Chiefs can shake off a 3rd terrible blowout like water off a ducks back by the time this Sunday rolls around.
It's all up to Zorn and Muir now. The two of them together have to convince Gonzo the muppet and his troupe of dancing chickens to vacate the field in favor of offensive linemen that can block and a QB that convinces his receivers to break off to a hot route when a blitz is coming so that he can deliver the ball quickly. Already once this year Haley's team has shown the ability to shrug off a couple of bad losses and grow closer as a team moving forward. These little chicks may have lost their way vs a hapless Dolphins squad, but they will right the ship to pick the eyeballs out of the Donkeys this week. The playoffs are in our future THIS year! Mark my words: when I'm carving my Christmas turkey a lot of you will be forced to eat crow for writing this team off.
Go CHIEFS!
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Fah rah rah rah rah.. rah rah rah rah
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Nov 8, 2011 6:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Glad you caught that, sir.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Or tunover machine...
The last thing the Chiefs need is a crybaby at the helm.
You could make a very strong argument that Rivers is in fact what is WRONG with that team, at least for the past two seasons. The guy is a head case.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
Actually, Rivers is starting to grow on me.
I can’t imagine him playing for the Chiefs, but he’s earned my respect by how he’s played and how he’s come across in front of the camera. There. I said it.
But that doesn’t mean I can quite go so far as to say I’d want him to play for the Chiefs.
would of ≠ would've
Head case or not ArrowSpread, I rather have Rivers playing for the Chiefs than Matt Cassel.
I’ve tried so hard to stand behind Cassel, but my effort has been wasted. People can talk all they want, including the announcers, about Cassel running for his life but he had as much time to do as well as most QBs in the NFL. Once Cassel senses pressure, he immediately panics and takes the wrong escape route or looks for a soft place to land. Cassel rarely keeps his eyes down field and rarely sees a receiver breaking open before he hits the ground. I’m on my 3rd review of the game looking for reasons to continue my support and I have found little, if any, reason to support Cassel’s poor play. The Chiefs need a good QB, offensive coordinator, strong safety, and right tackle for them to be more competitive.
by Flyboy26 on Nov 8, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Have to agree. Cassel panicked when decent QB's would have found a target. I don't
know how many Miami was rushing but they were rushing enough that there had to be wide open receivers.
by jcox31mc on Nov 9, 2011 5:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd probably take him too
I don’t think our W-L ratio would look any different, though, is all I’m sayin.
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
by ArrowSpread on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Istanbul? Is that near Constantinople?
The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.
Even old new York,
was once new Amsterdam.
by Ransom_ on Nov 8, 2011 7:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, I am a biologist, and you clearly forgot about the two most important types of birds:
Tits and Boobies.

Great Tit
Blue-footed Booby
The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.
by saskwatch on Nov 8, 2011 6:47 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Id have given you a rec if ....
you’d have placed a picture of a woodpecker between those boobies and tits, and followed it with a swallow.
Ahh.. I’ll rec it anyway, but just know that you could have done better =P
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Cockatiels?
Puffins?
Sapsuckers?
Oystercatchers?
by Ransom_ on Nov 8, 2011 7:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I've always been quite fond of the Brazilian Bare-chested Titty Bird
Top 10 defense and another trip to the playoffs!
Tamba Hali, NFL Sack Leader, 2011
yes, but
are those European? Or African?
AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
I think you mean unladen Swallows
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
If the Denver Tebows win this week...
… you’ll have egg on your face.
All the zone read stuff on Denver blogs has me excited that maybe we’re on to something (as long as McGahee is playing).
O/T: As far as opponent blogs go, this one’s great. Updated with new interesting/insulting stories and fan posts often. The Raiders’ blog pretty much stinks. Nice job!
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
thanks for the blog compliment from all us APers
As to the egg on my face… (is that another bird reference?) … I’l eat my crow if I have to.. but Denver’s Omelet is already scrambled for 2011. They aren’t winning the division to make the playoffs, and I don’t believe for 1 second that Tebow is the future that Elway has in mind for the team.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
If you listen to Elway even the last few days, I think Elway agrees with you
It’s going to be really interesting off-season if Tebow keeps winning in spite of himself.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
Common ground peace offering comments below...
It’s fun to pick off Carson Palmer 3 times in a game, isn’t it?
&
Don’t you hate it when Detroit runs up the score like that?
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
I firmly believe that Tebow is a worse pocket passer than Ryan Leaf
He can run the ball though. I guess if you don’t have anyone to throw the ball to that’s your best option at QB. He’s one of the greatest college QB’s of all time.
But in college “open” means 5 yards, and in the NFL “Open” means 5 inches. Tebow’s passes are much uglier than Cassel’s.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Tebow does things with his feet to get 5-foot windows off the extended play.
LBs and DBs are poised to crash the line against him, and this gives him bigger throwing windows. He looked pretty good on Sunday. It looks like MAYbe they’re tweaking the system in just the right way for him to be successful. I think you could run and throw all day long off the stretch play, with this kid, with a bias toward the QB option, any time it’s not honored (or is imperfectly honored).
Just don’t try to make him a pocket passer. The pocket passes are the changeup, and could work just fine for them, because, as a changeup, they’d get him the extra second or two, because the D is expecting the stretch play. He made some pretty good plant-and-throw passes over the middle on Sunday. There were times when the square-ins looked unstoppable. Add to that the fact that Tebow CAN steal those extra seconds, and any time the WR finds himself in a good spot, it’s easy pitch-and-catch, just by throwing to the wide-open area the defenders can’t reach.
There’s so much emphasis in this league on being geniuses and having masterly coordinators choreograph a complex dance. Guys like Tebow, Vick, Roethlisberger, and even Eli Manning, bring basic street ball that a lot of teams, like the Chiefs, just don’t seem to have.
would of ≠ would've
To make any prediction on the Chiefs season is pure folly
This team has been blown out of three games, two at home. That is a sign that the coaches did not have this team prepared for those games. People thought Herm sucked on game day? Haley is responsible for four out of the five worst beatings in Arrowhead history in his short tenure. He should hung from the third deck by his testicles allowing that to happen. They’ve beaten three woeful teams (I consider the Raiders in that category because of the QB situation that day and no McFadden) and luckily beat the Chargers when both teams played like crap. The offensive line is the smallest in the NFL and they are getting pushed around. The defensive line is not getting any penetration and they lead the league in fewest sacks. I’m sorry folks, this is a sorry ass team and the worst is yet to come.
so then your prediction that this team is "sorry ass" is folly as well?
The first blow out was a result of 34 points off turnovers, and almost no offensive possessions because of them. I’m not willing to put that on Haley when the team began turning over the ball on the opening kick, and continued all game long.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I see what you're saying
but please don’t try and explain away the first of three horrendous blow-outs.
I'm not predicting it, I can see it
There are too many signs to miss, but some people just won’t take off their rose colored glasses. They were getting their asses whipped by the lowly Colts, which every team is manhandling from start to finish. They did come back to win but if they were a good team they shouldn’t have been down that much in the first place. They should have beaten the Raiders by much more than they did. The offense blew opportunities to score, as they have been doing much of the year.
by MGDog on Nov 8, 2011 7:11 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Did you see 4 wins coming after we started 0-3? What were your signs telling you then?
by JayhawksNChiefs on Nov 8, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Based on how poorly they played in the preseason
prior to the beginning of the season, I had them losing the first four games and going 2 and 2 the next four. Even with Jamaal Charles in he preseason, the offense looked like crap. There was no rhythm and consistency.
So long story short, you had them at 2-6.
How did that vision work out for you?
by JayhawksNChiefs on Nov 8, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen enough in the preseason and regular season
to know this team has a long way to go to be a good team.
Bringing up the preseason again?
Lets disregard the 4 game winning streak in October after an 0-3 start and being tied for first place after 9 weeks. I know it’s easy after the loss last Sunday to support your beliefs. But lets leave the preseason out of any reasonable argument.
by JayhawksNChiefs on Nov 8, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
How a team wins or loses does make a difference in the long run
See 2010 and how they imploded against the Raiders and Ravens at the end of the year, with a pretty full compliment of starters, I might add. You don’t seem to understand or see the weaknesses on this team and only care that they beat crappy teams during that 4 game stretch, several of which they barely beat them. In the three of the four losses they were badly blown out. That is not the sign of a good team. The only reason they are tied for first place is because the AFCWorst is horribly pathetic this year. If that makes you feel good about the Chiefs, then you must have low standards for a good football team.
by MGDog on Nov 8, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If a team wins or loses makes a difference in the long run.
Again, your preseason and last season arguments are irrelevant. Thanks for telling me what i do and do not understand. I could only hope to be as knowledgeable and knowing as you and your 2-6 prediction. I’m sure the Saints thought they were playing a crappy team in the St. Louis Rams before the Rams beat them. I don’t think you understand the discrepancy in talent from the top to the bottom of the NFL, or what can happen in a given week. I never said the Chiefs do not have weaknesses or anything regarding my standards for a good football team.
by JayhawksNChiefs on Nov 9, 2011 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
Since you're defending the Chiefs
how do you explain three horrendous blowouts? Is the team lacking talent, consistent desire, poor coaching? What is it then? Good teams don’t get blown out three out of eight games. This is not a good team and it is not well coached.
I wish Haley had not approached the subject of the
Dolphins game by referring to it as a “trap” game. All week long his players were ruminating over the word “trap” as in “no way out chew your leg off” trap. I think he should have approached the Dolphins game as a “takin’ care of business” game. Good teams take care of such small items as not having their ass handed to them on a platter by 0-7 teams. There is enough talent on the Chiefs roster to make a potential run to the playoffs. Our defense is (on occasion) pretty darned good. A lot depends on how quickly McGraw and Arenas return to the field. (Did I really just say that about McGraw?) Our defense has a good coordinator and some fine players although our best defensive player is out for the year.
The offense is a horse (not blue and orange) of a different color. They suck. There is no reason they should suck, but they do. The problem of the offense putting up three points in an entire game is going to have to be addressed and it will have to be done forcefully. Otherwise this offense will continue to be inconsistent and flounder in the quagmire of mediocrity it finds itself in. The defense has great potential and the offense likewise has potential but no guiding force behind it. At the very least, Haley needs to light a fire under somebody’s ass on this deal or the playoffs are as dead as that Peking duck.
"The Hammer"
by G.L. on Nov 8, 2011 7:26 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Too bad you ask for the crow eaters in your bold prediction, tex
Especially knowing you won’t eat that same crow when you are dead wrong about this average team full of average players and below average coaching. The only bird I see will is the bird I’ll flip to Haley if he doesn’t right his ship
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 8, 2011 9:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Why does everyone act like people will not admit when they are wrong?
If the past few months has shown us anything, it has shown us that people who are wrong will admit it and then come back angry when they are right again on either side.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
It was a fun read by tex
It just soured it a bit that it had to take the “aiken angle” in the end. Like fans who have doubt have to pay some kind of penance if their doubt proves fruitless. Don’t think anyone with doubt in this team expects the believers to eat crow if their belief is in vain. Just irritating
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 8, 2011 10:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
it was ment to be a fun read.. something entertaining
But it’s also a statement against those jumping on and off the bandwagon as if it caught fire after every loss.
There are so many folks that react completely emotionally to every single game and live in a world of wild ass swings. If the team loses a game it’s because they are terrible, and have no talent, and wont ever put it together until they fire 1/2 the coaching staff, and replace a bunch of starters.
Then, 3 weeks later when they win a couple games… the defense is AWESOME and Baldwin is going to catch 800 yards worth in 1/2 a season and Battle is going run for 150 yards a game… and the next couple games are against nobodies and in the bag already…. It’s like the entire fan base (as well as the team) looked completely past Miami and Denver into the 5 game stretch ahead.
In the first week the Chiefs were a turnover machine. In the second week the team was too busy licking their wounds to show up for the game. Haley and Cassel got into it in game 3 and Cassel went into the locker room spitting fire and rallying his team for the second half. All of a sudden, a different team took the field. They came back against Indy and got the turnovers under control in the next couple weeks… And then they looked right past Miami and came out flat.. without leadership… and no fire… and got their asses handed to them.
It’s a very young team… and a lot of the guys on it just don’t know how to handle winning. They already showed they could rally together as a team and tune out the negative BS when people step up to lead. Now they have to show they can handle the pats on the back they get when they win..WITHOUT letting it go to their heads.
The fans don’t seem to handling winning OR losing any better than the team has. They swing wildly from one side to another. I (on the other hand) have remained staunch in my opinion that the Chiefs are a good team, with above average talent, a smart and savy defensive coordinator, and a head coach that pushes his players hard to get the best out of them. Sure, they could use a more accurate passer with a better deep arm. Another pass rusher would be great (which comes down to developing all the youth more than it does dumping them and drafting/trading for more youth that wont be any better in year 1). There are lots of areas that the team could improve in. I’m in no way a homer, but there’s no give up in me when it comes to the Chiefs, and I’ve already seen that there’s no ‘give up’ in Matt Cassel or Todd Haley either.
Rail against the team all you want on a week by week basis for whatever failings you see in them, but the Chiefs are a talented team that can win this division and make the playoffs. In fact, they have a better chance to accomplish that than any other team in the division. That’s not Kool-Aid. It’s the truth.
Some people choose to focus on the negative and face life with a sour puss. I don’t hang out with those people IRL, and I won’t buy into their negative world view on a blog either.
Others prefer to acknowledge the negative (expecting that the coaches and players will continue to improve) and then focus on the positive things seen in the same games.
And still others choose to swing wildly from elation to despair, over reacting to every little thing after every game.. shouting doom and gloom from the top floor of the tower one week and then SUPERBOWL! the next week after win.
I choose to stay positive and stoic in my belief of the talent on the Chiefs team. They have problems, but nothing they can’t overcome. They have the ability and the drive and the opportunity to win their division and make the playoffs THIS season. They need to take their medicine and get better… but sometimes a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.. (or so my over dressed English Nanny used to tell me)
If a time comes when the Chiefs are eliminated from the playoffs, I’ll be more than happy to eat my crow. But I’m not going to change my attitude, or jam a stick up my ass while calling for peoples jobs or talking about how hopeless the team is before that time comes. In fact, I’ll probably be too busy looking forward to the offseason and trying to figure out what moves the Chiefs will need to make to improve.
I don’t spend my life dwelling on the negative. I acknowledge it, vent for a minute or two and then get busy fixing the problems.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Nov 8, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Great comment Texas Chief
I don’t agree with everything you said, but the majority of it.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. Great comment. You should do more of THAT in your Ramblings of an Idiot.
Don’t think so much as having to change or do something “special” in your Ramblings. Just treat it like a regular comment (with better punctuation and more pictures), but stick more to the essence of your “attempting to be logical” comments. Those’d be top-notch articles.
Frankly, your Ramblings often leave me kinda flat, like you’re thinking too hard about it, rather than just thinking hard about making good points, persuasively.
would of ≠ would've
Yes this comment was better than the article itself IMO
both were good though.
I don’t think he tries to hard in his articles, his comments are so passionate and it is hard to drum up that kind of passion for an article that isn’t in real time conversations.
Either way Texas Chief does an excellent job.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, I'm just free-writing, myself.
Thing is, I seem to get more out of his extemporising than his “official” efforts. Trying to get at what made him worth adding to the AP team, but that doesn’t seem to come out in his official articles. But maybe some folks really like it. Seems like he gets more of a rise out of his comments than out of many of his articles, and I know he’s got “it” in ’im.
would of ≠ would've
Mills, My best writing styles (IMO) are either research and conclusion pieces, or reactionary pieces
You are correct that I have to “try” in my weekly pieces to create a framework with which to fill my thoughts.
I try to change things up weekly to keep it interesting, and to cater to different people. No offense to anyone, but a lot of folks that used to thoroughly enjoy the in depth research pieces (and fill the comments with thoughtful replies) arent as active as they once were, or are gone. With the giant influx of newer members to AP we also gained a lot of folks that won’t read anything longer than 3 paragraphs, and prefer rants to research. Therefore, I try to rant more than I used to do.. and back off on the X’s and O’s.
In addition, we already have contributors that have carved out the “deep dive” defensive pieces and offensive line pieces. If I know my article will be on the front page.. I want it to be different than what someone else will post tomorrow, or 2 hours later. So I stay away from those topics.
My biggest goal in writing a piece is to take a one sided view (either through comedy, fact, or opinion) I WANT to create “debate” in the comments. It is my opinion that healthy debate (with name calling and blind accusations left aside) on any topic brings out the best in AP posters. The ideas fly fast and furious… and in general, it makes Arrowheadpride a website that people want to come back to time and time again to reply to someones comment.
Driving traffic is part of the contributor gig. I’m doing my part to the best of my ability. So yes, my pieces sometimes come off a little forced… it’s dificult to “react” to nothing… I need the readers as much as they need the articles to argue with =P
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I just remember the first few articles being unlike Texas Chief, and leaving me a little flat.
Liked this one. Didn’t agree with it all, but it was more engaging (to me) than some of the others. The only reason I spoke up at ALL was because some of your earlier articles weren’t getting much reaction or recs. Maybe you turned that piece of it around.
Just kinda trying to help you capture, in your articles, what made you stand out in the coms.
would of ≠ would've
Get out of my head!
It was bad enough that in between laughing at the numerous bird references. I kept saying (in my head of course) that’s what I was thinking (particularly the part about Rivers and Cassel.
Nooo you couldn’t stop there. Now you go and talk about all the teeter tottering fans that decide the teams entire worth game by game…c’mon now!
I agree the Chiefs have plenty of talent perhaps more than any Chiefs squad in my memory BUT… (you know there always has to be a butt) they have not yet learned to play the same game week in and week out.
It’s really nerve wracking at times because I have a feeling that if everybody on that team brought their A game they could take just about any team in the league. The thing is I haven’t seen that happen in a single game as of now. I could be wrong but we won’t know until it happens.
That’s what the Dolphins did last week (with a bit of help from our front 7). That’s what the Chiefs must learn to do.
As it stands I don’t even try to predict games right now. I expected them to have a close game with the Raiders and they shut them out. I expected another close one with the Dolphins and they got steam rolled… shrug
One thing…life as a Chiefs fan aint… is dull.
With all that said, what is your real point of the post?
That you don’t want fans to waffle back and forth between faith and doubt, or is the hidden theme here that you believe fans should have never jumped off in the first place? I enjoyed the first several paragraphs and the breakdown of each team and the chiefs chances to take the division.
But the undertone, the last paragraph, and definitely this lsat comment, tex, speak like you believe fans shouldn’t be negative. Like I said above, even this comment I’m replying to shifts from wanting fans to be consistent in their faith or lack thereof to “I don’t hang out with those sour pusses”. So again, what point are you trying to make?
Me personally, its easier for me to see this team for what it is than what I hope it can be. This team has been nothing but inconsistent and downright awful at times. The in-game coaching, the quarterback play, the pass rush, the personnel decisions have all been severely lacking for the majority of the season. If I don’t see that changing for the better and you have faith it will, does that mean you don’t want to hang out with me, tex?
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 9, 2011 6:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Negative vs. positive
Me personally, its easier for me to see this team for what it is than what I hope it can be. This team has been nothing but inconsistent and downright awful at times
This team has been inconsistent, but downright brilliant at times.
The vision of Haley to diagnose the coverage on Bowe and call in a stop and got hitch route for a TD…. Battle running with fire and desire to close out a couple wins. Breaston slicing up the coverage and pulling in balls in traffic for key first downs. Cassel throwing for 60%+ and limiting the turnovers. Cassel avoiding the oncoming rush and running for yards when there were none to be had through the air. Aside from vs Miami.. the emergence of Asamoah on the line, and the improvement of Richardson for a multiple game stretch. Tyson Jackson taking on double teams to open the run and still managing to get up in the air to knock down a few passes at the line. DJ stuffing Oakland on the goal line, picking off a pass, and causing general havoc in the backfield in the running game… not to mention some supurb pass coverage plays. Arenas playing great football on special teams. Kendrick Lewis really coming on in a few games to show that he, in fact, CAN play with the pros. Arenas, Lewis, and McGraw stepping up to fill the shoes of the best secondary man on the team…. There have been LOTS and LOTS of flashes of brilliance from the talented players on the Chiefs team. I’m barely scratching the surface. You choose to focus on the negative.
Me personally, it’s easier to see this team for what it is.. an extremely talented group of young players making progress again this year in every spot on the field. Guys that believe in each other, and that have begun to gel as a team. Inconsistent, sure… but dripping with talent and potential.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
That's fair enough
I’m not above seeing the positives when they are their from individual players, but I don’t ignore the times they disappear. If DJ plays like a manbearpig one week, then looks lost the next, I see inconsistency. If Cassel goes through his throw progressions and has good pocket presence one week, and looks scared shitless the next, I see inconsistency. If Flowers shows passion and desire to win one week, and gets beat badly down the field by Matt Moore and a fullback the next, I see inconsistency. We have talent on the front lines, but they can’t play up to their talent every week. We have a great motivator and tough head coach, but in-game decisions, personnel, and adjustments are not what they should be. When we play like we could beat anyone against SD, then game a total team collapse the very next week against Miami, I see nothing but inconsistency. So while I’ll continue to root for the Chiefs until the day I die, I won’t carry the delusions that they can play with the big boys consistently. A good game against New England likely won’t carry over to the next game because of the inconsistencies that control this teams destiny
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 9, 2011 9:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The "Aiken Angle?"
Man Aiken is a polarizing figure…
I don’t think Tex was trying to do that, and there is nothing wrong with saying people will have to eat crow, that doesn’t make Tex an Aiken Acolyte.
Some fans believe in the Chiefs even when things don’t look good and some fans are always skeptical unless the wins are piling up. Some many types of fandom and so many ways for us all to bicker, bitch and moan about each other.
In truth, none of it matters.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Im more than willing to admit my wrong thinking, and eat my crow if it comes to it.
But looking around the AFC West at the moment… I don’t see any other competition aside from San Diego for the playoff spot.
Someone has to win the division, and the Chiefs have the talent to get it done.
I don’t recall saying the team was perfect, or great… those are assumptions others are making about my comments.
They’re good enough to win the division and get to the playoffs though.
Go back to the week of Sept. 20th or so.. after game 2… and read the comments on the threads. Pay special attention to all the people spouting that this team had no talent, and would never put together 3 wins in a row, or win more than 2 or 3 games all year. There’s plenty of crow to go around, and even if the Chiefs don’t win the division, I won’t be eating crow alone after the team puts up 8 to 10 wins in a season when they were written off by the Boo Birds as not being able to win more than 3-5.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
If you believe this team is talented enough to win the division
Or that the division is bad enough to have minimal wins to take it, great. If I don’t, great. If I was one on the game threads saying this team wouldn’t win 2 games after the debacles against Buffalo and Detroit, can you blame me? If you are saying they make the playoffs after a 4 game wining streak, can I blame you? Either way, we hope for the best, and/or expect the worst. Eff the life of the Kansas City Chief fan
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 8, 2011 10:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was saying they could still make the playoff after the first 2 games
I never gave up on the team, I didn’t buy into the doom and gloom then, and I don’t buy into it now.
And after yet another blowout loss to Miami.. I’m saying i again.
Blow off some steam… stay positive, and get to work fixing what needs to be fixed.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
And you can't honestly justify saying you wouldn't trade Cassel for Rivers, can you?
I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.
by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 8, 2011 10:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes, i can. Thanks for asking
Character… Cassel has more in his little finger than Rivers has in his whole damn body.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Nov 8, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, there.
I’m no Cassel fan, but there’s a reason Rivers hasn’t taken his team all the way and won’t — he’s an entitled a-hole and he throws like a girl.
Do not want.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 9, 2011 12:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Probably has more than Cam Newton too
Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t trade Cassel and our entire draft next year for Newton…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
because Newton is stacking up those wins, ...wait... no he isnt
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I sure would
and twice on Sunday… Rivers has talent don’t get me wrong but he’s not Brady and he has a crappy attitude. Cassel at least takes his licks with dignity.
Being a Chief's fan for more years than you probably are old, I hope that you are correct.
However, it has been a long, long, dry spell. Unfortunately, the last time my support for the Chiefs was totally rewarded, I was making an approach to Hawaii and couldn’t attend the game. (Don’t tell anybody, but we were listening to the game on AFRS).
After watching the game several times, I'm beginning to agree with you RememberDelaney37.
The Chiefs still have too many flaws in their makeup, on defense and offense. Observing Haley on the sidelines (I saw no fire in him throughout the game) and after the result of the game, I’m losing faith in him as well. The play calling on both sides stink, the QB stinks, and the talent evaluation by the GM and head coach stink.
He gave Sparano an extra little hug/chest-bump at the handshake.
I know it can’t be true, but maybe he didn’t mind letting an old colleague break the winning ice with his team. I like Sparano, and always felt like the team needed O-Line to prosper, and just needed to settle down at QB (like I always advocate). From what I saw on Sunday, it looks like they’ve been trying to fix O-Line all along, and maybe they’re gelling, now.
It wasn’t as though Romeo was afraid to send the blitz. But his guys were just getting stoned at the line.
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Oakland
Don’t sell ‘em short. They have some good people, there. Housh gives ’em somebody faster than a LB to send over the middle. Big-bodied and tough, he could give Palmer what he needs to round out his game. I think Hue Jackson’s a good coach, and the Palmer-Housh moves say they’re already trying to take what Al left, and do a few of the things that couldn’t get done, with Al around. Of course, you could look at it as Jackson indulging himself in some old-fashioned cronyism, if you wanted to.
They have a D-Line that can give ANYbody problems on any given Sunday. Their secondary is a bit suspect, but you’re never out of it, if you dominate up front. I think they’ve not been good at pass pro’, but it’s possible that Palmer and some un-Davis-like quick throwing game can put ‘em over the top. Like the Chiefs, though, they’re (short-term?) dependent on something special/mutant at runningback to balance out their offense.
They lost quite a bit of mobility at QB, when Campbell went down and Boller couldn’t deliver. But Housh might be what compensates for that. Just can’t know until the season plays out. There’s ALways potential for an US-VS-WORLD virus taking over that lockerroom, and losing Davis could work to their advantage on more than one level.
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I think Hue Jackson is a great coach. If you remember.. I was recommending him before Haley was hired by the Chiefs.
I’m not looking past them, but currently their in complete shambles. And with McFadden out and Palmer tossing picks like it was 2010 again….and a horrendous run defense.. I don’t have faith in their ability to win down the stretch.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
It will be interesting to see how the Raiders roll in the offseason now
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
they're up against the cap in salary
and they dont have any draft picks til what? the 5th round?
I think they’ll hire a GM to keep Jackson from trading away any more first rounders though.
What i wonder is what in the sam hell they’re going to do with Campbell when he comes back or in the offseason. It’s too late now to move Palmer after what they spent.. and Pryor is the youth at the position. Do they dump Boller and ask Campbell to be the back up?
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
More I was wondering how much of the team they cut ties with
AL Davis had a lot of loyalty to “his” players and coaches/
With some one else in charge, we could see whole sell changes in Oakland. it is impossible to predict what will happen, but should be fun to watch.
I think Boller and Campbell will both be gone. IF Palmer stays healthy/
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. It's entirely possible that a fresh eye, with new-found authority, could do some quick surgery in FA,
cutting the fat and adding talent/smarts in a few key places, and provide the nervous system for the backbone Al put in place, but couldn’t quite put over the top.
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That's what I wonder too
I seem to have read somewhere that Campbell has already stated he is a starter not a back up so yeah when he gets healthy it will be interesting to see how his pans out.
I’m hoping they don’t go back to playing musical quarterbacks again.
I wouldn't say "a complete shambles," Texas Chief.
There’s enough flux and enough invisible reasons why things go one way or the other, that I’m not discounting “the sum of the parts” actually becoming a whole. I see this as more likely, right now, in Oakland and San Diego. KC has better “fundamentals” than Denver, imo, but either Oakland OR San Diego (or Denver or Kansas City) could start to gel and go on a run in the 2nd half of the season.
You just never know. It doesn’t matter what’s happened in the past. Every year we see a .500 or .400 team suddenly start firing on all cylinders and go on a run down the stretch and even make some noise in the playoffs (although such teams tend to be worn out coming off the win streak).
I still see some boneheaded plays by one Raider or another to think that they’re still the same old blunder-driven mediocrity they seem to be every year, but I think these guys want to win FOR Al Davis and maybe they halfway CELEBRATE the chance to get out from under his thumb. Hue’s already brought in a couple guys Al almost certainly vetoed in the offseason.
And while I can’t believe Norv Turner is the Great Leader, I don’t think his lockerroom thinks he’s a problem, and they look at the likes of us as idiots. Hell, some of us even call ourselves idiots.
Also, I’ve been saying right along that there are some underlying fundamentals to the current Chiefs team that could bear fruit sooner, rather than later. Sure, I hated being blown out by Miami, but they were underrated, imo, and Reggie Bush’s bulletin board remarks a few weeks ago really seemed to light a fire under ‘em. In many respects, they’re a team that Parcells built, and, like somebody remarked here, today, they’re BIG in the trenches, and they pushed our guys around quite a bit, blitz or no blitz.
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One thing to mention about Denver is that John Fox is a good Head Coach
He gets his team to believe in him and he took a Jake D team to the Super Bowl, not an easy task. Sure Tim Tebow is an easy target with his “Tebowing Ways” but he is not the entire time. The Broncos won three NFL level games this year and the Chiefs will have to be ready to try and stop them when they(the Broncos) haven’t been officially kicked out of the race yet.
Every team in the AFC West is floating between awful and great trying to decide which category it fits into. It is a division with an identity crisis. One that I hope the Chiefs can figure out soon for themselves.
Everyone is down on the Chiefs now, and rightfully so. However, I give credit to a Dolphins team that was just better prepared in everyway possible last Sunday.
Instead of screaming why weren’t the Chiefs prepared and yelling they suck blah blah blah. I have learned this season that the Chiefs are a fighting team and I have no reason to doubt they will be ready to go on Sunday
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, Jake Delhomme was good before he sucked.
Very smart QB, I think maybe his arm just started failing him as he got older
by bamachief5558 on Nov 9, 2011 12:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Denver
Tebow did some good things on Sunday. It appears that he learns like a sponge, and putting him on the field is giving his development a boost he could NEVER get from warming the bench: Actual game-situation film on himSELF. If there’s a guy who’ll profit by such lessons, it’s this youngster.
That clumsy hand-off? Turns out, it’s hard to see if there’s actually an exchange, and, if taken to an extreme, the guy without the ball can actually PUSH the other guy farther and faster than the guy could get moving just with his own feet. Tebow is a dangerous enough runner that it’s the OPPOSITE of seeing Trent Green flushed from the pocket. The back 7 HAVE to come up (if they’re not up, already), and that gives Tebow a lot bigger windows to drop the ball behind the Linebackers.
Tebow can keep his feet longer than any normal QB. Let those WRs get some reps (and some game film of their OWN) in those extended plays, and Denver can dial up throws that – contrary to what the Denver locals are advocating – take LONGER, but give Tebow windows that are BIGGER than most QBs enjoy. When teams face Denver, they’re going to key on stopping Tebow’s feet. That means a lotta peeking into the backfield by DBs and LBs in zone, which means there are going to be receivers in the pattern who can get RIDICULOUSLY open – so open that even TEBOW could hit ’em.
Their pass rush looked pretty good against Chokeland – but so did KC’s apparently miserable pass rush. But Von Miller’s definitely the real deal. Still, I think KC’s O-Line will match up well against Denver’s D-Line. It’s those honest-to-goodness ELEPHANT d-lines that seem to bully KC’s O-Line.
I think Fox will bring as many people as it takes, in order to get pressure. I think KC has the people to catch the ball when the bum’s rush is on. I just worry about Cassel’s ability to overcome the pressure and make good throws, or worse, get himself stuck in quick pass mode and rush the pass against the 7- or 8-man zone, when he SHOULD be patient, use his feet, and let the defense expand.
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Throwing risky passes into tight coverage, when the D only brings 3 or 4 is Cassel's big weakness.
That’s when he throws those picks. There needs to be more “Take what’s given” by both Cassel and his wideouts.
Cassel-to-Bowe is once again too low a percentage proposition to be a 3rd down option. Bowe needs to be the 2nd or 3rd read, or running a square-in against zone, when Cassel KNOWS where the seam is and hits it, with Bowe fully prepared. Don’t even bother to throw to Bowe if the ball has to fly from shade to light on its path, or if Bowe has the sun in his eyes. That means, under certain light conditions, put Bowe on the all-shade side of the field, or sit him down, entirely.
I wouldn’t at ALL mind seeing Keary Colbert becoming more involved in the offense. Seems like he runs crisp routes and catches everything in reach.
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the receivers ability to read the oncoming blitz they same way Cassel reads it
and break out of the play call into the proper hot route… is pretty well piss poor as well.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Yes. They're still trying to run the route as it's drawn-up. It's like they're still trying, at midseason, to get THAT part right,
and haven’t even beGUN to scratch the surface of “taking what’s given.” I think there’s more of that in Cassel’s game than there is in some of the guys around him, but there are some wide-open guys he just isn’t seeing.
“You see your WR? Now, count the number of defenders.”
“One….two……….three……..four”
“Hold on! Can’t you just TELL there’s a crowd? Sheesh. Somebody’s gotta be open somewhere else, my man.”
“Oh.”
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so...
7 wins takes the division?
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by Buck'O on Nov 8, 2011 10:52 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
In this division anything is possible
I think it will be 9 though.
Some team will go on a tear… Maybe the Chiefs Will/
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
All sitting at 4-4, I think at least one of the three leaders will finish with 10 wins.
And certainly the Broncos are still in the running. Basically, every team in the division has a solid shot at winning the AFCW. Even Denver. I LIKED what they did with Tebow last Sunday, and they were a different team on defense. (Maybe it’s just because Oakland’s not that good on O-Line, right now.)
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Even if you hate Tebow, like most of us do.
You have to know that team well play hard for the guy. Sunday will be no easy win.
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 8, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
San Diego
I don’t know if anybody noticed, but San Diego had Green Bay sweatin’ their unsullied record until quite late in Sunday’s game.
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and got all banged up doing it.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
True. That's definitely a strike against 'em.
But KC also has some trees to throw at the opposing secondary.
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But what you're pointing out is one of the variables that seem to work in KC's favor (after the loss of some big names, early)
Every time a Charger player gets hurt, KC gains another small edge in the division race.
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I think he was just saying it took that much effort, enough to injure a bunch of quality player,
to be as competitive as they where
I know. And I'm pointing out that other teams are suffering injuries, too, and you don't know, 'til Game 16,
just how healthy any of ’em will be going into the playoffs.
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Good rant, Texas Chief.
I think our differences are highlighted by the things I chose to say, above. The main difference is I remain more optimistic, because there’s a lot more variation in what a team can accomplish. There are so many moving parts involved that ANY team can suddenly go on a tear.
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Wait...it's not Constantinople?
CHIEFS DYNASTY – we’re kind of a big deal
by kabrink on Nov 8, 2011 11:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The country is Turkey
Istanbul used to be Constantinple. Sulieman the II or III took it over in 1453.
Good post
But too many parantheses.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Possible copyright infringement?
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Nov 9, 2011 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
If only I'd filed the papers properly...
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Fixed in a tangible medium
And a way to prove you did it first (for it to hold up in court).
Filed papers are not required in copyright.
We Don't Hear The Hate
Sweet
Thanks for the lesson. Now I’ll be a step ahead whenever we cover copyright law!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Lawsuit!!! Lawsuit!!!
Texas Chief has clearly taken your writing “style” and used it himself without you giving permission and consent. Furthermore, he didn’t even git you a “H/T” to signify your emphasis on his new “style”. I would ask for emotional damages, payment can consist of food from his restaurants.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.
by nateforchiefs on Nov 9, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Like many others, not quite sure what point you wanted to make here...
I was about to write a very similar post this morning, but I’ll let this comment take its place. All you ultimately demonstrated here is that any representative from the AFC West in the playoffs this year will be a 1&Done non-factor. Hooray.
This team has one legitimate win from my perspective, and that win came over a hapless Vikings team who still thought McNabb should still be playing anywhere in this league. The rest of those wins are laughable in my opinion.
Oh sure, the comeback against the Colts seemed pretty fantastic until you realized why were so far behind in the first place, and topped it off with the fact that team is so clearly deliberately throwing this season I’m surprised the league is allowing it.
Then we look at the Raiders game, and if I have to elaborate further on what it means to have a paltry 2 offensive scores after SIX turnovers, you’re beyond help.
That brings us to the Monday night game where the Chargers QB, among the best in the league no less, has to make a once-in-a- career bonehead mistake to put us back in the game. The overtime portion of that game was the ONLY thing that made that win legitimate.
Think what you want of me; I’ve supported this team for over 30 years and have no plans to stop til I’m rotting in the grave, but make no mistake – this team is bad. I’m not even going to bother picking out specifics of why this offense is so bad, as there is no end of material on this blog, but my GOD WOW this offense is horrible. If it were any other team you’d be yucking it up at their expense, I assure you.
I’ll have triple helping of this crow if they somehow turn this crap around, but as it stands now, once a team figures out how to score on us the game is pretty much already over. Unless the defense pulls our ass out of the fire we have pretty much no chance without a phenomenal amount of help from the other team (aka the other team is just that bad).
Use whatever name you want for me that allows you to sleep at night, but this rabid fan is still waiting anxiously for our first legitimate win. Winning this division so we can go on to be an absolute non-factor in the playoffs is nothing new to this old bird, so sorry if that prospect doesn’t get me very excited.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 9, 2011 8:27 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Just as lucky was Flowers playing 30 yards off the line on 3rd and 18, which completion put the Bolts in scoring position.
We hate to admit it, but an AWFUL lot of W’s and L’s relates to how the oblong ball bounces. The better teams win more often, because luck is usually more or less evenly distributed. Chiefs had San Diego in 3rd and 18. How lucky was it that they converted? I’d say pretty darn lucky.
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I won't necessarily disagree with you
However my point wasn’t that all those wins were pure luck, but simply against bad teams.
My primary point is our Offense is among the worst in the league if not the worst.
Ultimately, there will be no crow eaten this season unless the Chiefs manage to win a playoff game. It will be a story of how a bad team found the much needed spark to turn it around. Instead, the best case scenario in my opinion is we win the worst division in the league and are a complete non-factor in the playoffs.
This team has shown nothing to make me call them good, quite the opposite. If the author of this post is saying I should eat crow because they make the playoffs, I completely disagree. If they actually beat good teams AND have offensive production doing it, at that point I might take a few bites. As stated, unless we’re talking a playoff win, no crow is warranted – bad teams make the playoffs every season. Ask a Chiefs fan.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 9, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
The author of the post addressed people that gave up on the team winning more than a couple games all season after the first two looked bad.
those are the ones he’s offering crow up to. If you were one of those, and the team makes the playoffs, crow is deserved.
If you weren’t one of those, then he’s pretty clearly not offering you crow (though you can have a dish if you like, it goes well with Colt .45 – it’s a favorite of mine). So then you’re just kind of responding to the air.
We Don't Hear The Hate
If that makes sense to you I guess...
Would it not have been a lost easier to simply say “they won 4 games after that horrible start, so nyuk nyuk nyuk to all those who said they’d be lucky to win more than 2”?
Instead it goes out of it’s way to absolutely imply we can still win this division, and by doing so proves we’re a good team. In other words the merit of a good team is to simply make the playoffs, and thus said crow is warranted. I disagree.
I personally never even hinted at how many games we might win because doing so is a fool’s game. I did, however, acknowledge how bad they are, because well – they are.
Does that mean they can’t turn it around, make the playoffs etc? Of course not. Just making the playoffs, which is absolutely what this post is about, proves little in my opinion.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 9, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Well...
Despite a lousy division, even reaching .500 would be impressive after losing our best 2 players and another extremely valuable one. At least IMO.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
But we're not a bad team. We're a team with some talented players (and a few extremely talented players missing for the season) who are falling short of potential
There are inconsistencies, but there is enough talent to take the field and be competitive against anyone in the league. The problem is squashing all the bugs and ironing out all the wrinkles that are resulting in the inconsistencies.
It didn’t look like a “nyuk nyuk” – just more of a, “Hey, get some intestinal fortitude and don’t give up so easily. Curtain’s still up and the show’s still going.” sort of thing.
And that’s completely legit.
If we end up sitting at 4-8 after the next four games, I’ll be ready to mail it in for this season too. But I wasn’t at 0-3, and I’m not at 4-4.
Different strokes.
We Don't Hear The Hate
I disagree that this is a "bad" team...
The Chiefs are a team full of talent.
Some of that talent is out injured for the year.
Some of that talent is new to the team and just learning how to survive in the NFL.
Some of that talent is struggling to come together as a single unit.
The teams play is inconsistent, but they aren’t a “bad” team. They are a young team that is learning week by week how to play as a whole, instead of individual pieces. When they do put it all together for 2 or 3 quarters in a row.. they impress on all 3 phases of the game… but they haven’t showed the ability to play that way regularly.
Those folks that gave up on this team after 2 games… and swore we’d never win 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 games ARE going to have crow to eat should this team win the division to make the playoffs. Does that mean the Chiefs are superbowl ready adn a fantastic team? No, it doesn’t… it just means that the fans give up and focus on the negative too often. I understand long term disappointment. I’ve been a Chiefs fan all my life (born in 1974). I’ve never known my team to take home a ring at the end of the season. But their still my team… and they still have more than enough talent to go around, and they aren’t a “bad” team.
They are a young group of players with massive amounts of potential that have been built over the last 3 seasons. They are learning how to come together (as evidenced by not throwing in the towel after week 2 or 3). They are a good team. They’ve got a ways to go to be great, but they are pointed in the right direction, and all it will take for them to make a serious run is to play together as a unit consistently.
This post is absolutely NOT saying that “just making the playoffs” makes the Chiefs a good team. It’s about how the team is ALREADY better than “bad, lousy, or hopeless.” They already have more than enough talent to win games. They ARE a good team heading tword great. And maybe it takes making the playoffs for the second year in a row to wake some fans up to the fact they they have been building and improving since the day Haley walked in the door.
In the big picture… the team has gotten better every year, month, and week. You may not be able to see it happening while looking through a microscope…but it’s happening none the less. The Chiefs have a GOOD chance to win their division, and they are a GOOD team.. loaded up with talent. They need consistency, and they have a lot of areas they can continue to improve in… but they aren’t the bumbling bafoons that dont have the ability to win that people want to make them out to be.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I was with you until the last paragraph
I don’t see the improvement. They seem to be the same team that got blasted at the end of last season.
Yes, I know that the players that are missing are amazing talents(jury’s still out on Tony “Mr. Glass” Moeaki because of injury issues), but still, if the team was truly improving I think we wouldn’t see the same things continually popping to the forefront of the discussion.
The team has already surpassed my revised predictions (post week 3). Originally I was on record at 6-10. After week three, I dropped it to 3 wins. Sure, they’ve won more games than I figured. Had Campbell/McFadden not been injured and if Phyllis could take a snap, we’d only have 2 wins and my prediction would still be in the running.
As far as eating crow is concerned, if we win the division (should require about 9 wins) I will happily eat said crow. I don’t think them surpassing my revised prediction by one game, at this point, should require a course of steaming crow. But, if that’s what appeases the masses, so be it!
That being said, I still can’t make myself say that this is a “good” team.
What does it profit a Team...
to win the stinking AFC west, and get destroyed is the first round of the playoff’s? Sounds like Matthew 16:26.
Until we get an new QB, I can only watch the Chiefs with a morbid fascination. Haley is starting to wear thin as well…he seems to be in denial, or has Pioli tied his hands by not allowing him the power to bench his precious diamond in the rough?
I am here to answer those who mock me scorn for scorn.
I wouldn't write the eulogy for Tebow's career anytime soon.
I don’t know what will happen with Tebow’s future, but he has made Denver a better team. The players are rallying to him b/c they know he can win and has done so twice. He may be able to pull-off a winning season for the Broncos. Tebow is a smart FB player and that will help him overcome his other limitations, in my opinion. We’ll find out around January.
Denver beat Oakland last week. Oakland didn’t beat themselves and seldom does any team ever beat themselves. Denver made plays. Oakland didn’t.
his career in Denver... not his career in general...
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Rec'd! But should've been one more poll option...
• ALL of the bird options left out
Love the post!
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
I meant - select this one to vote for all the bird ref's in 4 of the other 5 bird options :-)
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
I thought their offseason moves made sense. It's not like they stood still.
Blowouts or no blowouts, though, they’re sitting a .500, after the “easier” part of their schedule. So maybe they did NOT do enough. Maybe Cassel and/or the coaches and/or the basic fundamentals of the team just aren’t that good.
But that’s why we watch the games!
would of ≠ would've
What the crap?
Is anyone out there who can tell me why half the comments are gone? Including a completely respectful debate between craig and myself?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Maybe there was a little too much pissin' contest to the "respectful debate."
Attack the idea and don’t characterize the idea-holder situation, mebbe?
would of ≠ would've

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