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Interesting take on the defensive line -

"...how many times have you seen someone on a message board or blog say that a 3-4 defensive end’s job isn’t to pressure the QB, its to occupy blockers. 1,000? 10,000? In all seriousness, I’ve read that several hundred times. Its been relentlessly drilled into our heads ever since Tin Man was picked. What we’re being told, essentially, is that our starting defensive ends, in our base set, only have responsibilities in the running game. The passing game is not their province. Thats how the defense is set up. These guys are only expected to be useful on 40% of plays. Does that seem archaic to anyone else?

Through eight games, Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey have combined for zero sacks. I’m not going to talk about where these guys were drafted, or how much money they make, or any of that. All I’m saying is that these players cannot rush the passer. At all. I think we can all agree on this. ..."

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"The Chiefs need to find more snaps for Wallace Gilberry. I know he’s been something of a disappointment thus far, but he’s the only guy who laid a finger on Matt Moore yesterday. And he’s our only defensive lineman who has shown any ability, in his NFL career, to rush the passer. That makes him extremely valuable to this defense, disappointing start or no. I think the base set needs to feature him at RDE. Enen in a 3-4, its still the QBs blind side, and its still a position that will be going after the quarterback for many plays every game. Having Dorsey there is a waste. He and Tin Man should be competing for the LDE spot.

Wally Gilby may be a liability against the run, but Dorsey and Jackson are a clear liability against the pass. Why should the former matter so much more than the latter? NFL offenses being what they are, shouldn’t it matter less? "

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Something gotta change.

The amount of pass rush outside Hali since Pioli got here has been terrible. and even before that. whether its new LBs or getting rid of Dorsey, I don’t know but Pioli needs to figure this out

KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round

by trentchiefsfan on Nov 8, 2011 4:45 AM CST reply actions  

Dorsey

is a beast against the run. I would never want him out. If we can find a STUD NT and a pass rushing DE then we would be set in all situations across the line. It would also help if we had another OLB that could pass rush. Belcher can make some plays but I’m pretty sure we could find another ILB to go with Johnson.

by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 8, 2011 7:50 AM CST reply actions  

agreed

the pass rushing DE should be either Gilberry or Bailey or someday maybe Bair…
OLB, you have Sheffield, Houston and maybe someday Miller…

seems to me like they have talented guys… but something isn’t clicking… YET

by stagdsp on Nov 8, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

it is an erroneous statement.

whether the DEs pressure or stack blocks seem to depend on circumstance. Things like down and distance, area of the field, decision to blitz or cover, zone or man, etc.

by fishhooks on Nov 8, 2011 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

They need to get out of the 3-4

I have said for over a year this defence was going to be the killer of what may be a good team on both sides of the ball . Dorsey and TJ will do dam good in a 4-3 and draft another pass rushing DE and you may have something with the cheifs front 4 . The 3-4 D has ran iits time most teams who have used it in the past are now moving away from it . And no team does it better then pitt or Ravens but then look at the all around core of their defence. we got to stop saying guys have to go it just might be the system

by damdoneugker on Nov 8, 2011 10:02 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

"Wally Gilby may be a liability against the run"

No shit he is, let alone Hali on that side.. no team will ever HAVE to pass. There is a reason for the past years we have not used him in the base, because he can not 2 gap which is what our scheme requires. He is a subpackage rusher only for us, and with Bailey being a rookie Gilberry has not been effective.

Maybe you should attempt to come up with ways to improve the defense instead of ruining it

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 8, 2011 10:11 AM CST reply actions  

On a similar note....

Free Hudson and Powe

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 8, 2011 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

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