Dolphins Dominate Chiefs: The Good, Bad And Ugly
by Joel Thorman on Nov 6, 2011 4:46 PM CST
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After a performance like that, it's hard to get too in depth about what the Kansas City Chiefs did wrong against the Miami Dolphins. So here's the good bad and ugly from the game in bullet-point style.
Good
- Steve Breaston was fairly consistent throughout the game catching seven balls for 115 yards, including an awesome he's-out-of-bounds-wait-no-he's-not moment down the left sideline late in the game.
- The Chiefs offense didn't turn the ball over once.
- Dexter McCluster averaged over five yards per touch.
- The Chiefs got off to a good start on their first drive.
- Kansas City can now start shaving their beards.
Bad
- Dwayne Bowe, whether it was his fault or not, didn't have an impact in any meaningful minutes.
- The Chiefs defense had no sacks.
- Brandon Marshall, as he usually does, ripped the Chiefs for a big game ending with 106 yards and a touchdown.
- That wanna-be fake punt/field goal thing. Bad execution and communication all around.
- The Chiefs defense made Reggie Bush look like a really good running back.
- The boo birds were back out at Arrowhead (and rightfully so).
Ugly
- Matt Cassel was running for his life and rushed the ball nine times. He was sacked five times.
- Matt Moore had a career day completing 17-of-23 passes for 244 yards and three touchdowns.
- The Chiefs secondary gave up big chunks of yardage fairly consistently throughout the game.
- This is the Dolphins first win of the season so the Chiefs will be on the SportsCenter highlight reel for all the wrong reasons.
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NOOOOO!!!!!
The rally beard will be gone!!!!
by His Royal Greatness on Nov 6, 2011 4:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I've seen some of the beards out there
And for many, shaving them is a good thing.
by Joel Thorman on Nov 6, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I expected the Chiefs to lose to Miami
And I expect them to lose against the Broncos next week too. But games like this just make you sick.
I think we're looking at the 2010 Chiefs again
The Chiefs last year would physically expend all there energy in a game and pull a close win out (Ala Monday Night against the Chargers this year) and then they would flop the next two weeks before they regained their composure again.
So while I did think we’ll lose to the Dolphins and Broncos, I’m going to predict we get a win over not just the Patriots, but the Pittsburgh Steelers.
my gut says we pull one out next week
then lose 5 in a row, most blow outs
That's pretty much how I feel as well.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 6, 2011 5:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
agreed.
This will continue being embarrassing.
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Nov 7, 2011 3:52 AM CST up reply actions
This game was weird
We ran a lot more plays, and had a much better time of possession, yet still got blown out. There was something seriously wrong with the defense but it’s impossible to know what without looking at game film. The Dolphins had an unusual number of big plays, which means they either did an excellent job game planning against us, or we just got really unlucky. I think it was the former, because their receivers were so wide open despite us dropping 7 or 8 guys into coverage.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 4:56 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, 20 minutes to 9 in TOP in the first half
Very strange. Defense did not look the defense we’ve seen the last month and a half.
I'm eagerly awaiting Pro Football Focus' breakdown.
Was it one or two players who kept giving them huge chunks, or was it everybody doing poorly?
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'd think so.
I haven’t really thought about it, but I’d imagine that big plays are largely caused by poor safety play. But is McGraw so much better than them that Moore does better than Rivers just by that one injury? It just seems really bizarre that McGraw is that good while Washington is that bad.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Usually when you give up big plays on D
and have trouble getting chunks on O, youre gonna lost the TOP battle. Very overrated stat
by RamX21 on Nov 6, 2011 5:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The main problems with the secondary were Washington, Donald and Piscetelli, Sabby.
Without a shout out to an abysmal pass rush of course.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Nov 6, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
cassel is just an average qb.
i tried to believe in him but it is what it is.
the d was horrible but they could of allowed 10 points and we still lost.
need to look at our backup qbs as soon as we are mathmatically out.
by barconiuskc on Nov 6, 2011 5:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
What if...
Us losing to the Dolphins ends up pushing the Colts into the #1 spot. They draft Luck and look to release/trade Manning.
Manning signs with the Kansas City Chiefs.
BOOM.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Twitter: @Mr_Hoosier
Same.
And Peyton is a douche.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 6, 2011 5:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
There is handmedowns.
Then there is Peyton Manning.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Nov 6, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Meh.
Peyton Manning, meet Joe Montana.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 6, 2011 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And?
Montana was the last time the Chiefs won a playoff game. I would take Manning if it means the Chiefs will get at least to the AFC Championship.
Build through draft > trading top picks for an over the hill, 3 surgeries in the last year, 35+ year old QB
Not matter how good that over the hill QB once was.
Wouldn't be the first time we got a QB in a weird twist of fate
Only that one would be good
by RamX21 on Nov 6, 2011 5:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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There is a fanshot up.
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by craig in calgary on Nov 6, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
To be a good team we have to have:
(1) A very good offensive coordinator. Muir is a fine O-line coach.
(2) Pass rushing. Hali is the only one we have. Neutralize him and ANY QB will look all world against the Chiefs.
(3) Safety play. Berry’s out and the tight ends and recievers in this league will have a field day against this team if their QB has time to throw
Cassel well yeah.
Mixed emotions about Cassell. He’s OK some of the time. Don’t think we can go very far with him, but no real viable alternative at this point.
He's average when he's not under pressure
When he is, he’s downright horrible. No pocket poise whatsoever.
He was not that bad today.
He was bad, yes, but not terrible. He wasn’t the biggest reason for the loss.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
cassel, imho is why we lost
he has to be that guy who gets the o going. he has to will his team back in it
Miami has a horri-awful pass defense...
WITH Vontae Davis playing, without him, there was no excuse to not light them up.
Again, his stats look decent, which doesn’t tell an accurate picture.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Nov 6, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He can't just be OK some of the time.
To win your QB has to be good most of the time.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 6, 2011 5:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
even tebow has 2 tds now
next week wont be easy
9-20 for 100 yards
He’s still doing worse than Cassel did today.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Because TD's are not an important individual stat.
If you throw it every time you’re in the red zone, you’re QB will have lots of TD’s no matter who they are. If you run it every time you’re in the red zone, your QB will have very few TD’s no matter who they are. A QB who can drive the team down the field but lets the RB score the touchdown is better than a QB who relies on the RB to go down the field and tosses a short pass to the endzone.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Ok
How many times did Cassel drive down the field today and let the RB score?
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Nov 6, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
The first drive he drove us down the field.
Then faced a 3rd and 10 after two runs, and didn’t convert. So we got a field goal. That’s a overall good drive by him.
The last drive of the first half he went down the field, but got sacked.
The last drive of the third quarter he drove down the field, but we failed to score.
The next drive you drove down the field, and failed to score again.
Really, other than not scoring at the end, this game offensively was similar to the other games we won. The last couple of drives we passed because we didn’t want to run down the clock.
And I’ll admit Cassel had a bad game. We just got a little unlucky when it came to the red zone.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
he has been 50% passing the last weeks
he has to go,that is not going to get it done
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
I've always thought Cassel should be replaced eventually.
But he is not a terrible QB. He is average. He can win you games if everybody else does ok, but he can’t win a game by himself.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
thing is,he has decent people to throw to
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, and after the first two games he was playing well.
This is the worst game he’s had since week 2, but it was not too bad. It was bad, yes, but not terrible.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
He has had 1 good game(against Indy) thats it
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, he had a bad game against Oakland too.
But he had very good games against the Vikings and Chargers.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
but that inconsistency is killing this team
We cant make a deep playoff run with him if he gonna be schizophrenic in how he(and the rest of the team) plays
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
If we had Berry, Charles, and Moeaki
We absolutely could make a playoff run with Cassel. Without them, there’s very little chance. Like I said, an average QB like Cassel can win games if you have talent around him. Without those three, the best we can hope for is to barely get a playoff spot.
But being average and being bad are completely different. But believe me when I say I’m hoping Stanzi starts next year.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
We had those guys last year
Still no wins
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
We didn't have Baldwin or Breaston.
And Berry and Lewis are no longer rookies. Those factors make a huge difference.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
A lot of those were poorly thrown though.
He seemed to be barely off on most of his throws.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
or poorly rcvd
Baldwin with the in look vs the out which he should have done.
Cassel was firing it today, possibly the Rcvrs were not ready for the change in velocity?
That one was on Baldwin.
But a lot of the others were on Cassel. The weren’t terrible throws, but they would have required nice catches to be complete.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
We threw the ball almost every play in the redzone this week
We got SHIT. 6’5" receiver and a 6’3" receiver and you can throw a proper jump ball?? Come on now
by RamX21 on Nov 6, 2011 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No.
No he’s not, he’s got 2 TD drives vs a much better defense.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Nov 6, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
How can you honestly say that!?
Take a step back and look for god sakes. He’s leading his team to touchdowns with no talent to speak of around him. Open your eyes
by RamX21 on Nov 6, 2011 5:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He really only led one good drive.
The other drives were either failures, or the second one largely due to rushing.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Our offense put up 3 points.
Basically this game was over (out of reach) in the first quarter because our offense put up 3 points for the entire game. Herm Edwards and his idiot minions thought 3 points was plenty enough to win a football game……or 6……or 9………or what fu*king ever. It is NOT. It is NOT. It never has been, nor never will be. Fire Bill Muir and light a fire under this offense. There is no excuse for this offense to put up only 3 points.
"The Hammer"
Change what we can or kiss off the season
Can’t change QB in the near future. Stanzi’s not ready. Can’t get a quality safety until next year (Berry’s back). Can’t easily get a pass rusherthis year (unless Houston miraculously turns it on). We CAN get better play calling but Haley will need to take over and DIRECTLY call plays to Cassel. Our current slow three way palay calling is not working and I’m not aware of anyone else in the NFL that does this. If Haley doesn’t fully trust Muir then he MUST take over, or risk another wasted MIKE SOLARI year of on job training of the offensive coordinator. Haley was hired as an Offensive guru. He should start showing it of just kiss off the season!
The Chiefs will be the poor man's 2010 Oakland Raiders
and go 7-9, 5-1 in the division…
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Heck we could go 5-11 and only win the next game for all I know
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Palmer is having a hell of a game.
We don’t want to believe it, but we were damn lucky to get Oakland when we did.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Nov 6, 2011 5:18 PM CST reply actions
Rivers must not be a good QB then
cuz i smell a 3 game losing streak for them
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
What? they look like us right now, my friend
I smell 4-4
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Come to think of it...
The Chargers have regressed to us
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Rivers is a good qb,I would take him over Cassel any day
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Rivers a good QB in the past
This year he throws an average of 2 picks a game. I would take Campbell and Rivers over Cassel still, but the Chiefs and Chargers staring 4-4 in the face. But unlike the Chiefs, the Chargers show they dont want to be 4-4
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Palmer a real qb?
0-2 in the playoffs,you must have low standards
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Just do me a favor
Link me to one positive comment you’ve ever had on this blog. After you do that I’ll talk back to you
I don't care if you respond or not
I’m just saying Palmer isn’t elite.I have made a lot of positive comments. I just don’t drink the Pioligist kool aid
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
How many times did Manning get bumped out of the playoffs and was(still might be) elite
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 6, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
2 super bowls 1 win
How many playoff wins have the chiefs won since 94?
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Uh I didn't say Superbowls
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 6, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Besides Manning, our team is way better.
Especially with our three big IR guys. If we somehow got Manning for next year, and he was 100% healthy, we would be one of the best teams of all time. However, to get him we’d basically sacrifice our future to try and win it all, so it might not be worth it.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
Well again I go round and round about the qb
We have a better team,they have a better qb.so,they have a better shot to go to the super bowl
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt he will ever be 100% again
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 6, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Sucks.
I admire the guy. I hate how he always beat us, but he won the right way. He worked hard and did everything he could to win, despite the lack of talent around him. That’s the kind of attitude that you’d show to your kids to show how to be successful in life.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Great Pro, and I really hope he gets out of the game before it takes too much of his life away
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 6, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
You defend Cassel
but say you don’t want Manning. Did you really think that through?
by RamX21 on Nov 6, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not due to talent or anything else.
What does me defending Cassel have to do with it? I don’t want Peyton Manning in Chiefs red.
Because you want a QB that on his best day is mediocre
but don’t want one of the greatest of all time with at least 4 solid years left in him
by RamX21 on Nov 6, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't like Manning.
He’s my arch nemesis of QB’s, namely because he constantly destroyed us.
I DO want a better QB all the time, but not Manning. And I won’t blame Cassel for things that aren’t his fault, like the jailbreak o line today.
And you have no idea if Manning has any good years left. He could be done. He could get injured again. He could never be what he was. He’s no sure thing.
Well thats more understandable if it's for personal dislike
As far as on the field stuff goes, theres no reason not to like him. I personally think he’s sandbagging, why would you want to spend the last stretch of your career with a disgrace of a coach and team. If he goes to a team like us he could very well win a SB or 2.
I dunno. I guess I hadn't thought about it much.
I seriously doubt it happens, but maybe I’ll reevaluate if it does.
But he JUST SIGNED
a 5 year, 90 million dollar contract.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 6, 2011 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It was a 1 year contract with an option for a 4yr extension
They structured it that way so if he doesn’t heal properly from the surgery there is no commitment
Whatever we do, don't sacrifice the future
41 years since the Super Bowl win. Don’t blow the future, please.
by HowSweetItIs on Nov 6, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
What's the score in the raider bronco game?
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24-14 Bad guys
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Chargers put up 24 on Pack
Chiefs put up 3 on Dolphins. Perfect.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Packers don't really have a good defense.
They’re like the 2003 Chiefs, winning games on the back of their offense.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
that's a joke right
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Is he wrong?
The Packers can outscore anyone so what they need a D for? The 2003 Chiefs thought the same thing
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
packers are num 7 against the run,num 3 in take aways
the packers won a Super bowl to ,so I guess they were right
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 6, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
It pays to have rare talents like Brady, Rodgers, Manning
Teams have to play from behind most of the time against Rodgers. So naturally, they have to pass. Then they intercept several passes. They dont run against the Pack.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
Same way the Saints went on their SB run
Get ahead, get turnovers
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 6, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry dude, but the Packer's D this year is not at all what it was in '10.
They lost a couple players and neither Clay Matthews nor BJ Raji are really playing as well. Christian Ponder very nearly came back on them in his first start ever. Cam Newton broke the yardage record for a rookie in his second start.
The Pack is riding Rodgers and the O so far this year.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 6, 2011 6:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Haha
When the Packers won the SB, they had the #2 ranked defense.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Nov 6, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
They had a good defense last year.
But that was last year. This year their defense stinks.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Can we be competitive with Denver?
Can we not get blown out by NE, Pitt, GB, or NY? Highly doubtful
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by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 6, 2011 5:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We will beat Den next week, but the 7 games afterward look bleak
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
like we did miami?
this team couldnt beat their meat playing like that. once again, not prepared to play.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
SD is making me nervous though.
With the Packers’ terrible defense, the Chargers can still win if they get the ball back.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 6, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
You saved a bunch of money on your car insurance?
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 6, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
good: miami exposing the o line
for what they are. the result being that management will finally do something after this season to fix it, instead of bringing in a bunch of WRs.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Agree on need to address OLine
I do think we have good young linemen, but center and RT will def have to be addressed this offseason, whether its Gaither for Richardson or some young promising player.
Center will not be addressed. We drafted Hudson in the second round last year
I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 7, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
"The chiefs will be on sportscenter highlight reels for all the wrong reasons"
Again!!!
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