Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 11/30

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 30, 2011 7:57 AM CST

Good morning! Sorry about the late post. It would figure that the day I decide to come to the office early and do this post is also the day that the interstate is a parking lot. Oh well. Here is today's belated Kansas City Chiefs news.

Communication problems have plagued the Chiefs’ offense throughout this season, from players being confused about instructions and assignments, to "fuzzy" headsets, to coaches forgetting to flip on their microphone before sending in a play call.

In addition to the team’s many injury woes, problems relaying messages have further held back an offense that’s near the bottom of the NFL with an average of 304.2 yards of total offense.

Communication Breakdowns Plague Chiefs from KC Star

Rumors of acrimony between the head coach and general manager, Scott Pioli, have swirled around the Chiefs organization. A local radio station even reported that Haley would have been fired after Week Five if the Chiefs had lost to the Colts.

The Chiefs, though, denied this report, and both Pioli and Haley have publically praised each other and spoke positively about their relationship.

Whether or not they get along, who should be blamed for the new Chiefs regime's poor record - 18-25 - Haley, Pioli or both?

Will Haley Coach The Chiefs In 2012? from The National Football Post

LB Derrick Johnson leads the Chiefs defense with 123 tackles and is on pace for 179 stops, a total that would be the highest single-season mark in team history. LB Tamba Hali has a team-high 7.0 sacks to tie for sixth in the AFC. Over the past two seasons, the Chiefs linebacker has tallied 21.5 sacks. The club has returned two interceptions for touchdowns, including one by CB Brandon Flowers and one by S Kendrick Lewis.

Chiefs vs Bears - Game 12 from The Mothership

Former Chiefs guard Will Shields will take the first step in what could be quite a winter full of honors for the 12-time Pro Bowler.

This weekend, Shields, a former Outland Trophy winner at Nebraska, will be inducted into the 2011 College Football Hall of Fame in ceremonies at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City.

Will Shields' Big Winter Begins from The Red Zone

Since being thrust into an every-down role against New England, rookie outside linebacker Justin Houston has been on a tear.

It's the kind of production that has turned the heads of teammates and has Houston grading out as one of the Chiefs top defenders over the past two games. No, Houston still hasn't recorded his first career sack but those around Arrowhead see that as minor side note.

Houston Finding His Stride In Chiefs Defense from The Mothership

Whether or not Gaither's error contributed to his release, the roster move shows confidence in Maneri's ability to contribute.

Maneri, who was claimed off waivers from New England on September 5^th, had been inactive for the majority of the season prior to Sunday's game. He gives the Chiefs positional flexibility as an edge blocker, having practiced as both a tight end and an offensive tackle this season. The 290-pounder was a former collegiate tight end at Temple.

Maneri Shows Flexibility As Reserve Tackle from The Mothership

Someone once told me, "A man should not be judged by his actions when he is riding high, he should be judged by his actions when he is at rock bottom." I don't fully understand or agree with this statement, but it has stuck with me over the years, so I am going to judge Palko not by his turnovers, but by his reaction to those turnovers. Did he try to make the tackle? Did he attempt to recover the fumble? Or did he drop into the fetal position and start crying?

Bad Quarterback League Scorecard: Blaine Gabbert Gets Benched from Grantland

Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City, receiver: The Pro Bowl receiver has taken heat for appearing not to make an effort to catch a pass in the final seconds of a 13-9 loss to Pittsburgh on Sunday night. It was intercepted, thus ending the game. Bowe's effort has been questioned in the past. He is a free agent after the season. The Chiefs have been aggressive in re-signing their players. It is interesting that Bowe has not been re-signed. Plays like this may be a reason why.

AFC West Stock Watch from ESPN

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by Joel Thorman on Nov 30, 2011 8:10 AM CST reply actions

Late or no

Thanks!

by Chief_Elmo on Nov 30, 2011 8:15 AM CST reply actions

Bill Williamson is such a tool

I really hate lazy journalism.

by DanielH123 on Nov 30, 2011 8:23 AM CST reply actions

Bowe...

Why are we on Bowe. That pass was clearly uncatchable unless he stopped on a dime and jumped backward and up ten feet. Chrissy as usual must have had his head up his ass. Bowe has been a very good to outstanding WR since he arrived in KC and he will be paid as such by someone. I hope it is the Chiefs. They can’t let him out of town. He will get franchised or sign a new contract if Pioli and Haley are worth their salaries.

Jerome

by easyjb on Nov 30, 2011 8:24 AM CST reply actions

Bowe will get re-signed.

by bossmanham on Nov 30, 2011 8:28 AM CST up reply actions

I dunno

not if he has many more plays like that

by DanielH123 on Nov 30, 2011 8:29 AM CST up reply actions

Because that one play completely negates the rest of the year

by bossmanham on Nov 30, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions

Not uncatchable by Steelers

There’s some belief in my mind that Bowe could have adjusted and gotten a finger on that ball. Regardless, there was zero effort to even make an attempt. Reach back, stick out an arm, do something! The Steeler’s defender INTERCEPTED the ball. The separation between the two didn’t look that great to me. If it had sailed out of bounds, I’d see your point, but ball was still in the field of play, so make a play for it.

Sorry, I like Bowe and all, but looks like he pussed out on this one. Hopefully he’ll take this public bashing as a lesson learned.

by Chief Farmer on Nov 30, 2011 8:41 AM CST up reply actions

The ball was...

1) Thrown behind him making it impossible for him to make a play on the ball. If you notice Bowe begins his jump before the DB so this makes it even more difficult to change directions and go back a couple yards in order to make a play
and
2) Thrown to high for him to catch. The defensive back was 2 yards behind Bowe. So even if Bowe was directly in front of the DB he is only at best going to tip the ball. Yet the ball was thrown behind him so it really doesn’t matter.

Palko has a weak arm, and his accuracy on balls further than 10 yards is poor. No way in hell this is on Bowe.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Nov 30, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions

What you talkin about

Bowe should have changed direction mid air, in his jump, to go the opposite direction and make the catch

by km230015 on Nov 30, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions

Well while he was at it he should have also...

done a tornado kick taking out all of the defensive backs.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Nov 30, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions

Exactly

can you really blame Bowe? It was a horrible pass, high and behind him, plus he had three guys around him. I understand that the game was on the line, but that pass was uncatchable. At most he could have tried to bat it down, but there is no guarantee that he gets to it in time. But what was guaranteed? If Bowe’s arms went above his head, he was getting drilled! no doubt about that one. Collinsworth can say whatever he wants about been tough, but he only played all 16 games three years of his nine year career, because of Injuries. The kind you get by laying out for a ball that it uncatchable, giving a SS/LB a free shot a your ribs. There’s a difference between being tough and being smart. Do any of you really doubt that if that ball had been on target that Bowe wouldn’t have gone for it? Of course he would have. Two hands up, helicopter hit spinning to the ground for the catch. There is no doubt in my mind he makes that play. But high and behind when surrounded… let that one sail, because it’s already on the QB.

by Stone Throwers on Nov 30, 2011 8:42 AM CST up reply actions

6'5", 222 lbs, played WR, I wouldn't have laid out for a crappy pass by a crappy 4th string QB

Just saying.

by Slim with the Tilted Brim on Nov 30, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions

5'10", 195 lbs, played SS, and I would laid wood on WR who tried :)

by Stone Throwers on Nov 30, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions

I think everyone from ESPN must of sent out a memo..

to blame Bowe on the interception. Either that or they read each others crap and puke it back out.

by kc_okerix on Nov 30, 2011 8:30 AM CST reply actions

It is the typical parroting that goes on after games...

a commentator talks out his ass and all the hacks out there take it as gospel without actually analyzing the play…

people/lazy “sports jouralists” regurgitate this kind of stuff ad nauseum…

First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...

by SFLChief on Nov 30, 2011 8:35 AM CST up reply actions

It's the latter

Williamson didn’t even have a post up about the Chiefs game until several hours afterward, which is odd since he usually does random updates during the games, and especially since the game was 1) the only game on and 2) on network TV. I really doubt he even watched it, and it shows when he says things like he did up there. He apparently needed to get his piece out about Norv Turner being full of fail rather than cover a team that was playing at the time.

It’s easier to take someone else’s word for something than to check it out for yourself.

by DanielH123 on Nov 30, 2011 8:37 AM CST up reply actions

watched it over and..

he could have stuck a hand up. pure and simple…

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Nov 30, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions

I look at it this way

Palko had already thrown 2 BAAAD interceptions on horribly thrown balls. On the other hand, I’ve seen Bowe not give up on several plays this year that turned out well for us, best example of which being the catch in the end zone at Indy.

Advantage → Bowe

by DanielH123 on Nov 30, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions

Purpose..

for what purpose, he was running full out, the ball was high and behind him.

Jerome

by easyjb on Nov 30, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions

he jumped up

in the air, looked at the pass and then dropped down. i have no problem with bowe, just saying on that play it looked obvious after watching it 4-5 times that he gave up on it. he knows it, and will learn from it. case closed.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Nov 30, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions

Yes and why did Bowe give up on it?

because it was high and behind him… he had no chance at the ball that is why he gave up on the play.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Nov 30, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions

you would never make it

on a team of winners if you think that is acceptable. and thank you, captain O, for letting us all know….again, that he did in fact give up on the play, and why.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Nov 30, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions

Bowe saw shadows.

If Cassel sees shadows and rushes the throw and misses his target we attack him.
The AP is not consistent with their views. The AP is saying the ball was not catchable so don’t even try to catch or defend the ball. I believe Bowe is an outstanding player, he can make catches that nobody else can make. You have to make the effort.

Bowe made a mistake and I’m glad ESPN is attacking him, We need the media to get on our player so they play hard .

by rdlvegas85 on Nov 30, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions

I'm loving it...

Reaction to the Reaction: Not impressed. This is classic Buck-Passer behavior. Hey Tyler, you didn’t lose because Dwayne Bowe didn’t run the right route, you lost because you turned the ball over four times. If I were Dwayne Bowe, I would point right back at Ty Ty and make a "putting headset on" gesture that says, "Oh, you want me to run a go route? Cool, I want you on the sideline and to put a headset on. Where is Ricky Stanzi?"

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Nov 30, 2011 8:41 AM CST reply actions

yeah, that article was hilarious

by stagdsp on Nov 30, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions

Yep, spot-on analysis of a really bad QB.

Ancora imparo.

by midcalchief on Nov 30, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions

If we don't resign Bowe, Carr, A Gordon, McLain

Then I am going to be really confused on the direction this org is going

"Stay Classy Kansas City"

by Mas Cervezas on Nov 30, 2011 8:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Anyone notice the wide open reciever coming across the middle in front of Bowe

Jerome

by easyjb on Nov 30, 2011 8:57 AM CST reply actions

Tyler Palko most definitely did not.

Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!

by neiowakcfan on Nov 30, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions

Im so tired of hearing about firing someone

This team was so bad when Haley and Pioli came in and everyone expects an immediate turnaround. Rebuilding takes time especially on a year when our star players are out for the season. You can’t blame coaching for that, they just happen. We are slowly but surely on the way to the top. The players seem to respond well to Haley so why stop that?

I eat success for breakfast....with skim milk.

by ChiefRoyal on Nov 30, 2011 9:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions

I don't remember Collingsworth catching many passing across the middle...

He was that 10-20 yards down the sideline guy.

by Slim with the Tilted Brim on Nov 30, 2011 10:11 AM CST reply actions

You saw every catch Collinsworth made?

If Chris Chambers was the one who didn’t attmept to catch or defend the pass, we would be all over Chambers, because Bowe is the Golden Boy we are giving him a break.

I’m not saying Bowe lost the game, even if he could have made the catch or defended the ball, who really believes we could have scored a TD with Palko.

I’m just saying he had a bad play. I still think he is a Stud and we need to resign him.

by rdlvegas85 on Nov 30, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions

It's the pattern of behavior

Bowe has shown “above and beyond” type effort on quite a few plays.

Chambers….not so much.

That’s why Bowe gets the pass while Chambers wouldnt

by DanielH123 on Nov 30, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions

Long time listener...

First time caller here.

I’m simply amazed at the amount of people calling Bowe out on this. The ball was OBVIOUSLY uncatchable, and only a contortionist could get a hand on it. Shouldn’t the emphisis be put on how terrible Palko is, and not on the effort of our best offensive weapon?

by mind the gap on Nov 30, 2011 10:49 AM CST reply actions