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Evaluating Pioli's Draft Picks

Due to the fact that we don't really know how successful any of the 2011 draft picks are, I decided to leave them out and only include the 2009 and 2010 draft picks.

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2009

Tyson Jackson DE--Chiefs' starting DE.  Moderately successful.

Alex Magee DT--No longer a member of an NFL roster.

Donald Washington CB--Chiefs 3rd string Strong Safety.  Has only 52 total tackles in his NFL career.  0 interceptions.  0 passes defended.

Colin Brown OL--Member of the Buffalo Bills.  Has never started an NFL game.

Quinten Lawrence WR--Member of the Chiefs' practice squad.  Has started one NFL game.

Javarris Williams RB--Member of the Houston Texans.  6 career rushing attempts for a total of 6 rushing yards.

Jake O'Connell TE--Chiefs' 3rd string TE.  12 career receptions for 90 yards.

Ryan Succop K--Chiefs' starting Kicker.  81.7% FG Percentage.

2009 Draft Pick Success Rating: 2/8

 

2010

Eric Berry SS--Starter from day one.  Great pick.

Dexter McCluster RB--Has been disappointing since his 94 yard punt return for a TD on Monday night against the Chargers.  Moderately successful.

Javier Arenas CB--High punt return average, but has 0 returns for TDs.  Can't see him being a starting CB for anyone in the NFL in his career.  Hard to say, but we'll call him successful.

Jon Asamoah OG--Has started every game of the 2011 season and looked great.  Great pick.

Tony Moeaki TE--Looked good last year, and was hoping to improve with a successful sophomore season before suffering a season-ending injury in the Pre-Season.  Good pick.

Kendrick Lewis FS--Chiefs' starting Free Safety.  3 interceptions last year, and 3 interceptions so far this year.  Looks much better when Berry's playing, as opposed to McGraw.  Decent pick.

Cameron Sheffield OLB--Missed all of last season, plays some this year.  Looks decent, but due to the fact I've counted McCluster, Arenas, and Lewis as successful, we'll call him unsuccessful so far.

2010 Draft Pick Success Rate: 6/7

 

Total Success Rate: 8/15

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Not too bad.

Looks amazing considering how bad this team was before he got here… with Huard and Croyle…

Cassel and Palko are just as terrible, but we got much faster as a team, and much more talented.

by andrew33 on Nov 28, 2011 12:02 AM CST reply actions  

more talented?

in what area exactly?

And Pioil had 32 guys he inherited from Peterson that are still in the league.See my fanpost

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 28, 2011 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

He does

that is true. But Pioli’s vision in building a championship franchise is clear. We have very athletic, large, fast WR to create major mismatches. Imagine if we had a competent QB like Eli Manning, we would be putting alot of points on the board like he is now with Cruz, Nicks, and Manningham (Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston). He probably also recognizes that we have the best RB in the league which is why he brought in McClain. Pioli also sees the importance in a talented tight end as not only a security blanket for the QB, but also a dangerous option down the field, and he has brought in a very talented TE in Moeaki. McCluster under a competent QB would create even more turmoil for a defense by running short routes and burning a defense which would be spread out due to our talented receivers. Think Sproles in NO, with more speed and less power. Our O-line is still missing a couple pieces, but remember the days with Sackintosh on the line? We now have added Hudson, Lilja, Gaithers, and Asamoah.

On Defense, he sees that we have talented CB with Carr and Flowers, and Arenas who in my opinion has improved game after game. With Hali and Houston as OLB and Siler and Johnson as ILB, we probably have one of the most talented LB corp when healthy. Berry makes this D all work with his great run stuffing ability and his quickness and athleticism which allows him to have a huge range in helping defending passes. Lewis has been doing very well and Daniels adds to that depth. We do have a problem with our rush, but Jackson has been playing better this year than any other and Gregg is a solid option for next year with Powe in the wings. Bailey showed up tonight and hopefully he can refine his skills to pair with his tremendous strength.

I think Pioli has done a great job setting up a foundation, and if not for the injuries this year, I believe this team would have taken a huge step forward. Pioli just like all of us, probably recognizes a need for a QB for next year. If we drafted a QB in the first round, get a OL second round, and either sign or draft a DE that could generate more pressure than one of our starter now, we could be looking at a very dangerous team next year. I recognize that Pioli is putting our team closer and closer to contention, and I believe the vision he has for our Chiefs is very methodical and intelligent. I also feel alot of fans are overreacting, and if JC, Berry, Moeaki, and Siler come back healthy next year and we draft a QB in the first round (Griffin III, Barkeley, Moore), we will take the AFC West in surprisingly dominant fashion.

by andrew33 on Nov 28, 2011 2:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Again my point

Carr,Hali,Flowers,Bowe ,Dj were already on this team.McCluster was NOT worth the pick we spent on him,same can be said for Arenas.Moeaki was hurt in college ,he’s hurt now.Jackson is a 1 dimensional reach,Houston has shown nothing.The only guys he brought in that are CONSISTENT players are Succup,Breaston,Lewis,Berry,Asamoah.That is 5 in 3 years.Not elite personel moves if you ask me

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 28, 2011 2:58 AM CST reply actions  

The job of a GM

is to gather players to win the Superbowl. He’s done great in seeing what talent he has in front of him, and adding multiple dimensions to it. We have looked much more competitive under Pioli than under Peterson. Remember the days with Fox, Ty Law, Huard, Croyle? Those days when you woke up on Sunday thinking only a miracle would keep the game competitive? I sure remember Rivers always putting up huge numbers against us and blowouts were pretty much common.

Pioli has changed the culture of this team, and I guess I believe we should reserve judgement on Pioli until next year. We had so many injuries, its hard to see the development of our players. For example, if Berry was healthy this year, I’m sure he would make everyone on D better; and the same goes for JC who singlehandedly made our Offense go last year. It’s pretty amazing to think how anyone could make Cassel look competent now that I think about it.

I understand there are some players he has whiffed on, but I believe Pioli genuinely believes in seeing the big picture and he has his vision that requires certain players to play the way he wants his team to be run. I honestly think a great QB and our guys coming healthy next year will make us instant Superbowl contenders seeing how every team in the NFL minus the Packers seem to be much more vulnerable this year than last. Honestly all the injuries could be the lockout, and the strange method that the Chiefs treated the offseason rather than the fact that we have weak, brittle, injury prone players…

by andrew33 on Nov 28, 2011 3:13 AM CST up reply actions  

The Texans won today with there 3rd string qb

Mario Williams is out for the year.Andre Johnson has missed 6 games,Foster has missed 3 games,yet they get over it.Look at the Packers last year.Injuries happen to every team,the injury bug isn’t just picking on the chiefs I assure you.Blowouts are pretty common under Haley,14 losses by double didgits.I don’t understand how Pioli has changed the culture ,other than guys are afraid to talk about injuries and there physiques might look better.But there is still a culture of losing around this franchise

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 28, 2011 3:22 AM CST up reply actions  

True.

But they did have Foster today, and they barely beat the Jaguars… It doesnt take alot to beat the Jaguars especially with Gabbert at QB.

Your point would hold valid if they keep winning however.

The packers are a different story because they have Rodgers and you probably could put any WR with him and he would be scoring all day. Packers also weren’t talked about this much until they started winning, which also proves my point that winning cures all. And I guess you dont believe Pioli has put us in position to explode and be very successful next year, but I honestly do believe we have a great chance to make the AFC Championship game if we get a first round QB, and everyone comes back healthy.

by andrew33 on Nov 28, 2011 3:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I dont think

its just a “few”.

JC honestly made Cassel look competent last year. We all know now Cassel is one of the worst QB in the NFL. Coincidence? I think not.

And i dont know why we are talking on both fanposts about the same thing haha

by andrew33 on Nov 28, 2011 4:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Shouldn't you have to throw in Cassel and Vrabel?

I mean they did cost a draft pick…

Still am not a fan of the Dex pick

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 28, 2011 10:11 AM CST reply actions  

2009 was an epic failure of a draft

2010 was much better but Dexter is not worth anything. at the time we needed a kick returned and he was going to fill that role but instaed Arenas does a better job than he does. so that leaves us with a tiny RB that gets knocked over in a 5 MPH wind gust.

I think Pioli tries to be to cute with his draft picks, pick the best player at the position of need. I like the idea of “captains” but hell most of the best players in the league weren’t captains in college!

by johnnyo_99 on Nov 28, 2011 11:49 AM CST reply actions  

Pioi gets a C- for his first 3 years

2009 was a horrendous draft. It’s like he lost his notes and just started picking randomly. 2010 was better, but still not enough. 2011 is up in the air, but the Dex pick in 2010 almost neutralizes the rest of the 2010 draft class. There are plenty of 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd’ers from 2010 draft starting and contributing to their teams (yes, Rob Gronkowski, Terrence Cody, Ben Tate, etc). We need 2 or 3 defensive ends/combo linebackers like the NYG have. They always seem to add 1 or 2 passrushers every year. The #1 need on this team is QB, then #2 is DEPTH on the offensive and defensive lines. We need immediate playmakers. Spend your money, Mr Hunt. As of now, you and Scott are a disaster combination.

by chiefsareajoke on Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, We don't need Dex now that Charles is down. Battle and Jones are tearing it up.

"An atheist is a man who watches a Notre Dame - Southern Methodist University game and doesn't care who wins." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

by electriclight on Nov 28, 2011 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Pioli is doing work.

He continues to add quality players every year. He hasn’t been perfect. Unfortunately, building a team properly takes multiple offseasons. Pioli/Haley have only had one full offseason to prepare. If people will endure the growing pains, this team will compete strongly for the coming years.

by JayhawksNChiefs on Nov 28, 2011 4:41 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

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