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Keary Colbert On His Way Out To Make Room For Kyle Orton

I've been out and about running errands for Ms. Primetime (we're hosting Thanksgiving this year) so I'm just now getting to the news that the Kansas City Chiefs have made the Kyle Orton move official. The Chiefs, holding the ninth spot in the waiver wire, made a claim on Orton and were awarded the former Denver Broncos QB this afternoon.

So the Chiefs have officially announced the move, as expected. They also announced that WR Keary Colbert, originally signed during training camp, was released to make room for Orton.

So the Chiefs depth chart now comes into focus. Does Orton start? If so, when? Is he available for Sunday night against Pittsburgh?

We're looking for the answers to all of those but we won't learn more until the Chiefs practice tomorrow. Whoever is taking first team snaps at practice likely gets the nod and, my guess right now, is that that's Palko. But I've been wrong (plenty of times) before.

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Don't understand it.

Cassel gets hurt, we promote a receiver from the PS. We sign a QB to take MC’s place on the roster but then cut a WR that’s been on the active roster since day 1. Wouldn’t it have made more sense to cut Horne?

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 8:20 PM CST reply actions  

whatever the feelings are about Orton

this WR shuffle is confusing at best. Can Horne throw it or something?

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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Speed WR

With Orton able to throw more accurately deep?

vs a posession WR

of which we 3 starters already

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

with our line playing like it has been

does anyone have time to throw it deep?

Yeah I guess a speedster thrown in with the K’Bs is a nice mix.

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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

You misspelled LG.

But yeah, he did well in pass protection. Not so much in run blocking.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Its RT and C that has me worried most

BRich is blindside at least one more game (against Steelers?! – yikes).

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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember that the QB switch happened before the Orton release

and I thought Horne was the 3rd QB for the NE game as well. So I guess he can throw it somehow.

by Ren on Nov 23, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Urban was the 3rd QB

And thats my point, you just send the guy who was previously on the PS and the whole offense stays the same. Now you removed a slot receiver for a wideout deep threat of which we have 3

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Who are those three deep threats?

Bowe, Breaston, and Baldwin are all catching short stuff so far this season

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Colbert was a nice story, but what has he really done.

I really have no problem with them activating a young WR from the practice squad instead of an old veteran. The last few weeks of the season are usually prime time for teams to steal practice squad players.

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by saskwatch on Nov 23, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

but we got rid of a slot guy with sure hands

which we don’t really have any of and activated another big outside guy

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

this signing of orton. Makes me so unhappy. Darnit Chiefs. First time in awhile that they have signed someone I was so against bringing in.

such a setback, no one sees it yet

when week 16-17 get here, and we’re out of the race, and orton is still taking snaps….people are going to finally get it….and understand that without orton, we would have seen stanzi, no matter what kent babb has to say about it. Now? we go blind into the draft, with 2 matt cassel’s to choose from to lead our team next year. now we literally cant mess it up, and get out of being stuck with a cassel…orton or cassel, same thing

lets win 2 more games this year so that our pick sucks, and our schedule gets harder for next year.

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Nov 23, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't agree any more

He doesn’t give us any better shot to win games and we don’t see what we have in Stanzi.

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Orton doesn't give the team a better chance to win than Palko?

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Against this stretch of teams no he doesn't

We weren’t gonna beat these teams with any QB on the roster at the helm. Orton really isn’t a good QB.

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

read up 3 comments

We lose regardless and we don’t see what we have in Stanzi so we have another looming question mark going into the offseason

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Who is to say Stanzi was going to see the field anyway?

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Because Palko would have easily played his way off the field

If not then it would further prove my growing concern with Haley.

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

If Cassel couldn't play his way off the field.....

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Cassel is hands down no debate a better QB that Palko

I’m not saying Orton isn’t an upgrade over Palko, i’m saying that he is on the same level, maybe worse that Cassel which doesn’t change my outlook on the season. Which was bleak even with Cassel still in there.

by RamX21 on Nov 23, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

It's obvious Stanzi wasn't going to see the field this year

I’m pretty sure that if they wanted him to see the field this year they would make it happen.

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Nov 24, 2011 1:10 AM CST up reply actions  

What makes you think we still cant draft a good qb in the 1ST round?

And sorry Orton is better then Cassel, look at Orton’s stats last year. Cassel has never came close to 4000 yards passing with better recievers around him.

And the coaches have Palko playing over Stanzi all year so he obviously isnt ready or better yet.

This is a low risk high reward move which is always good.

Without Orton we would of probably finished the season with 5 wins and Pioli would have had to trade up a couple picks anyway to get a Barkley or Rg3.

Bottom line is its more likely we would have to trade picks to move up anyway with so many teams already with worse records that need a qb. All that being said, I say trade cassel, re-sign Orton if he performs better then cassel, and do what it takes to draft RG3

by chiefnation on Nov 24, 2011 12:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Let him start.

Bowe, Breston, Baldwin need to step up and make catches.

by DivineGrace on Nov 23, 2011 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

Yes.

Unofficially, we are the worst if you look at point differential.

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by neiowakcfan on Nov 24, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Had higher hopes for Colbert

Surprised he gets the nod over Horne. Maybe he gets the Becht treatment and gets back on the roster this season.

by MattHoover on Nov 23, 2011 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

Teach him 4-5 passing plays

and if we can get a lead have McClain, Battle, and JOnes pound the rock in front of the Arrowhead crowd

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

that arrowhead crowd has lost its magic if you look at the record of late. ANY NFL defense can stop 4-5 plays

its just like vs carson….even our defenders admitted to knowing their plays

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Nov 23, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

So again we lost nothing

except some of us get a spark for Sunday night football, Our D looked good for a half against NE till they realized that the O had the night off

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

No way Haley starts Orton this week, unless told to.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The dude started more games this season than Palko

if winning is the reason we plucked him off waivers the Chiefs will play him cause we don’t have any wiggle room to win this division now

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

this week certainly got a lot more interesting. I’ve got a fiver that Palko starts.

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by Shanghai_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt in my mind.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

in very similar offensive systems.

I wouldn’t be a bit suprised to see Orton start on sunday.

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by reedeasy on Nov 23, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I just don't think Haley has the guts to make a bold move like that.

It’s like pulling teeth trying to get him to get guys off the field that he’s comfortable with.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

It’s time for him to take off the diapers.

H/T Dick Vermeil

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!!!!!!

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

well i mean , denver plays us twice

so they study our plays. Maybe he learned a little from it lol . plus will the lack of play selection the chiefs have . Cant take him more than 2 days to learn

by chiefsman! on Nov 23, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that might be a toss up.

Orton isn’t coming in without action this year.

by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 23, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Woohoo!

We moved up 24 spots in one day!

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

The Broncos score wise were competitive in every game he started xcept GB

Orton threw 3 picks in that game but according to PFF it was one of his better games

Raiders
Bengals
Titans
Packers
Chargers – where he got pulled

That is a pretty good group of teams to compete against

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

People were more impressed by the 10 points their offense put up against the Jets.

Boggles the mind.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Sunday, unfortunately.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I can see us doing the exact same thing Oakland did

Let’s just hope that 2nd half doesn’t turn out the same way

by KCinIL on Nov 23, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

That's actually more than I expect.

Unless it really gets ugly, where there is nothing to lose.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

ugly.............

quite possible when playing the steelers

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Or the Dolphins.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

HA!!!

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

or...let Palko get us past the 50

And then run Orton in to finish the scoring drive

by Turkeyleg on Nov 23, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember that crazy system Buddy Ryan used

with Randall Cunningham? Was like their 3rd down QB.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The "Orton" Dozer?

How can anyone take Landry Jones over Robert Griffin is beyond my comprehension

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

My stomach is hurting again

I’d rather start Stanzi, but if this team is going to compete they don’t need anymore Left handed thrown footballs.

That might explain why Breaston tipped two for picks last week

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

take some tums

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Alka- Seltzer

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

plop plop

fizz fizz

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Breaking Bad

Baking Soda is an Alkili and neutralizes Acid, Big Burps which to guys are quite Fulfilling all of themselves

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

the coke you mix it with

to make crack costs 99 dollars

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by neiowakcfan on Nov 24, 2011 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

oh what a relief it is!

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I set 'em up...

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

lol!

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

that's what it sounds like when I poop.

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by Texas Chief on Nov 24, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Breaston tipped two for picks last week

because he had to slow down, turn back, read a novel, and wait for the friggin ball to get there…

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by neiowakcfan on Nov 24, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Crazy!

The Broncos traded Keary Colbert to the Seattle Seahawks for a 5th round pick in 2009. That 5th round pick was later traded with Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton.

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by Worthington on Nov 23, 2011 8:45 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

coincidentally

neither Colbert nor Knox play for the Chiefs. They even went to different colleges. Weird.

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by kabrink on Nov 23, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh?

Colbert is really athletic and gets open. He’s had a couple clutch catches. I know that’s not saying a lot but he’s a #4. We’re going to dump him for URBAN and Horne? Huh?? What have those jokers done except get “hard worker” wraps. Oh wait, I forgot that is what Haley cares about more than talent.

by SillyHatDay on Nov 23, 2011 8:45 PM CST reply actions  

Jeez, now people are getting up in arms about letting Colbert go?

Is a feel-good Disney movie story more important than winning?

by Chiefs_KC on Nov 23, 2011 8:49 PM CST reply actions  

I don't get the Horne love either.

Personally, past the first three, I really don’t care.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares about Colbert?

Really?

This guy was only picked up because Cassel was comfortable with him. An effort to give him every opportunity to succeed.

Now that Cassel is done, why keep this “journeyman” around instead of a much younger, faster guy?

by bamachief5558 on Nov 23, 2011 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

With Orton, it changes up our use of players

We can actually have possibly a long ball threat, and this will help the running game open up a bit…

by Turkeyleg on Nov 23, 2011 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Becht can block.

Bewsaf has scored him very high in that department.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

why won't they start him over O'Connel or Pope? I don't think Becht's played since they brought him back

atleast he can do one thing well, the other guys are jack of all trades, master of none, maybe getting flagged for penalties is their best skill

by Chiefs_KC on Nov 23, 2011 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I've stopped trying to figure out why they do what they do.

There are certain guys who can seem to do no wrong in Haley’s eyes.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

And why are McClain and Gaither such non-factors?

Sorry, I’m the wrong guy to ask. Two outstanding free agent acquisitions, and sometimes you forget they’re on the team.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Gaither has been playing when needed.

That tells me his back must not be too much of an issue.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Nobody.

Since he hasn’t been given that opportunity.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Haley didn't know what he had in Jamaal Charles.

Until 2.7 had a Twitter meltdown and basically forced his hand. Mind you, I was screaming for JC long before that event took place. So sometimes coaches are wrong and fans are right. It happens.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

How do you know Haley Didn't

I agree he saw him as a committee Running back and they went an got Jones and had them share the carries. Damn I wish he was getting carries this season

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Because 2.7 was sucking balls.

While Charles was sitting on the bench. And then when 2.7 tweeted his way off the team, Charles came in and had a historic finish to the season. OBVIOUSLY Haley didn’t know what he had.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Your above response is exactly the example I almost used before I decided to leave it alone.

They almost traded Jamaal for a third round pick. I would have flipped my shit if that had happened back then, and it bothers me deeply that the guys in charge had that big of a lapse in judgement… I mean the only reason we didn’t trade Jamaal Charles for a third round pick is because the team we were talking to didn’t want to pay quite that much. Insane.

by bamachief5558 on Nov 23, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

That was a story by possible unreliable source

And that same source had offered a fourth supposedly, but we countered with 3rd and they refused…so how well did they assess JC themselves. Do not put much stock in woulda, coulda, almosts, rumors. Also on hindsight. There was lots of speculations as to why, and what. Coulda been we were hoping to get 2.7 to show some worth to trade him off. OR we wanted to wait to use JC when he had some simblance of a team…who the heck knows. Doesn’t mean we had not assessed JC’s talent. As fans, we have no idea except speculation. And making assumptions just makes us….

by Turkeyleg on Nov 23, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Ehh, it wasn't a rumor...

It was a legit story and I’m pretty sure Pioli admitted it himself.

I’m just saying, wtf? It bothers me that it would have been that easy to trade our future away.

by bamachief5558 on Nov 23, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, I believe he did.

And it’s not a fair comparison to say other teams didn’t know what he was either, because those other teams weren’t seeing him in practice every day.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

So Pioli was about to trade of Charles

I thought you said Haley couldn’t spot talent Tarkus:)

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

That too.

Maybe if Haley would not have fallen in love with 2.7, Pioli would have had a better idea what he had. But yeah, he’s not blameless either.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

How can you blame them both?

Haley probably did not have anything to do with Cassel being the presumptive starter either

Once Pioli put him on the roster. Pioli could have cut whatever that guys name is before the season but he did’t. Haley has only the players on the roster to win games with

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

2.7 and JC were both on the roster.

Haley could have played either one. He chose to keep playing 2.7, even though to say he sucked would be kind. I got him being the presumptive starter going into the season, but when week after week after week after week after week after week of running into the line and falling down, while Charles shined at every opportunity, and 2.7 was still getting the vast majority of carries, that’s on Haley.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

all history now

and in history no one is blameless:)

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Except me. :)

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

C'MON

You know Pioli doesn’t talk about shit like that. And neither does Haley. That stays in house

by chiefnation on Nov 24, 2011 12:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Fourth round.

They almost traded Jamaal for a third round pick.

No, they almost traded JC for a 4th round pick…

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by neiowakcfan on Nov 24, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

quite possibly they want to groom Richardson as the backup Tackle

and rest Gaither for when they needed him, the season might have qot away from them though with all the injuries.

Gaither
DOB: 1986-03-18

Still says loads

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Branden Albert

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Absolutely WOW

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Gaither has had major back problems for awhile now

He was cut by the Ravens for a reason.
I actually made snide comments about the Raiders bringing in Gaither to camp in the pre-season. Something about having a walking injury cut by another team as their next starting Tackle…..

Then the Raiders decided not to sign the guy….. and to my horror the Chiefs signed him.
Gaither WAS a damn fine player, but the back troubles were severe enough to get him axed by the Ravens.

The Gaither ‘love’ makes even less sense than the Stanzi love. At least we haven’t SEEN the major flaws in Stanzi’s game yet… everyone already knows that Gaither has huge injury issues to overcome.

It was my assumption that Gaither was going to need at least a year of recovery time before he got back on the field, and even then he’d probably still be trying to play his way back into football shape. For a lineman.. back problems are a huge issue when it comes to explosion. Every single snap an offensive lineman is involved in a major collision while still bent over…. meaning that the impact (starting at the shoulders) travels straight down the spine compressing every joint along the way. The Gaither signing was a gamble on his future ability to recover enough to be at least partially as effective as he was when completely healthy. It wasn’t a ‘slam dunk’ addition of a ready starter…..

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by Texas Chief on Nov 24, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

But we do not get to see the day to day goings on

It’s a matter of trust, likely..like someone you work beside in your work. Everyone is quite capable of doing there job (most), but there are those who you put more trust in, even if another has more potential

by Turkeyleg on Nov 23, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

But if you're wrong enough, you're no longer a boss.

And Haley is in danger of not being a boss much longer. It’s time for him to grow some balls and start taking chances on guys in positions that aren’t performing.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see his job in jeopardy at all

I think that is played up too much. There has been way too many injuries this year to even try to judge the year.

by Turkeyleg on Nov 23, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Bullcrap.

Every team has had injuries. Look at my sig line. Is that a sign of a well-coached team?

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Cherry picken are we

a loss is a loss
and Western Division champions are Champions

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Feel free to cherry pick all the great wins under Haley.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Beating the Raiders 28-0 in the Blackhole

Whipping the 49ers ass, and Seattle, and St. Louis

Beating Pittsburgh and the Broncos in 2009

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Edging the Chargers twice

all count ass wins and the score doesn’t matter

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for making my point.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

well I enjoy wins not losses

and just sometimes the losses get out of hand while trying to win. What exactly is the scores in the 8 wins of that stretch since 15 games – 7 losses = 8 wins

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I get what you're saying.

My point is, I believe that many blowout losses (and it goes beyond that 15 game stretch) is a sign of a team that lacks discipline and focus week in and week out. That is not simply a talent deficit. The score may not make a difference in the standings, but it makes a difference when evaluating the preparation of the team on a weekly basis.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

it is a coaching problem

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I also get what your saying

Revolving OC is bad enough, revolving head coaches is far worse. Let’s see what Haley can do in lame duck status in 2012.

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by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Revolving OC is also on Haley.

And really, is Muir going to stop that revolving door? I don’t think so.

Offense is supposed to be Haley’s specialty, and it’s probably worse now than it’s been in his three years.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

My easiest arguement is that Charlie Weis wanted to go to Florida

My best arguement is that fully half of our 2010 Offense went out the Door when Moeaki and Charles went down. I posted numerous threads that Charles and Jones was not a good plan entering the 2011 season. A Running back was needed and nary a soul agreed with me cause RB’s are a dime a dozen. They are not and we got 2011 so blame Pioli for not drafting a RB until he took a Harvard Full back in the 7th round. I also posted that an offensive minded head coach should have got more offensive weapons than Haley has had at his disposal over the last three seasons. The Defense clearly took priority and it plays far better than the abysmal scoring effort put up by our offense. Again Scott Pioli is running the draft. Don’t blame Haley for a piss poor effort he’s done just about everything he can to get this team to win games.

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 23, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I think both are to blame.

But Haley’s offenses have lacked any imagination, and it could be argued that McClain and Gaither were excellent pickups by Pioli, but Haley either hasn’t used them (Gaither) or has not fully exploited their capabilities (McClain). It could further be argued that Hudson should be getting at least some snaps from Lilja and/or Wiegs. And that’s without even going into all the times they shoot themselves in the feet, which shows a lack of discipline and focus.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Muir must go.

Haley has been promoted to incompetence. Sadly, we can’t get a new HC and demote Haley to OC, where he belongs.

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by neiowakcfan on Nov 24, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree......

that is bullcrap

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know, he may be ready to part with those ways

Though Urban is still there, and the guy has done a lot less the Cobert

by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 23, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Be interesting if we take a page from NE

They used extra blocker a lot the other night…we should do the same perhaps. Especially with McCluster coming out on screen pattern or hot read route. Gives us time to throw and right now, our talent is in our receivers

by Turkeyleg on Nov 23, 2011 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

Solder is a tackle.

Or was that a joke?

They drafted him in the first round this year…

by bamachief5558 on Nov 23, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah but

that doesn’t make him a fullback.

Jonathan Baldwin isn’t a tight end.

Le’Ron McClain isn’t a wide receiver.

by bamachief5558 on Nov 23, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Tyler Palko isn't a quarterback.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Bazinga!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

After watching Palko play Monday

the only thing I learned is that you can get away with a popgun arm in college… how did he beat Flacco out of a job at Pitt? Uff da. Flacco isn’t even that good, but they thought Palko was better!! My goodness.

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by neiowakcfan on Nov 24, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I've got nothing.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Keary Colbert has been around the league for a while

and not done a whole hell of a lot.

It seemed like he was brought in to round out the receiving group because he’s Matt Cassel’s bff. Somebody Cassel was comfortable with.

With Cassel out, I think it makes way more sense to field the much younger, faster guy.

by bamachief5558 on Nov 23, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

colbert isnt practice squad able

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Nov 23, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I would have rather promoted Horne and dumped Colbert in the first place.

Anyone who thinks Colbert is worth a crap, just sit back and watch him clear waivers, then not sign with anyone.

by CapsLockKey on Nov 23, 2011 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

Like Horne did.

At least three times?

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Becht too!!!!

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get why people get too excited over any of these guys.

Does it really matter much if it’s Horne or Colbert occupying that last spot? Both are lucky to have an NFL job in any given week that the Chiefs decide to bring them back for whatever reason.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't get it either..............

I wonder who’s idea it was to put a claim on Orton

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Mine.

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by Tarkus on Nov 23, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha!!!!!!!!!

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by LadyChief on Nov 23, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Food for thought

Is it possible that the Chiefs have a dual purpose in picking up Orton. First, it pumps up the fan base, although this will be short lived mainly due to of the difficulty of the remaining schedule.

Second, was Pioli possibly looking toward the end of the season when the Bears possibly would give up a substantial draft pick for a QB? Hey, the Raiders gave up two first rounders to potentially make the playoffs.

by Nankerpang on Nov 24, 2011 8:21 AM CST reply actions  

doubt it.

Orton was available before the season started for anyone that was willing to give up a ‘substantial’ draft pick (2nd rounder) .. and Miami (who was in desperate need) as well as Washington (that went with Beck and Grossman on a Shannahan led team) as well as everyone else in the league passed.

The only way Orton’s name starts getting tossed around the league as a potential starting QB again is if he PLAYS his way into the role with the Chiefs. And considering his previous track record, the Chiefs offensive woes, and Orton’s previous body of work… that’s highly unlikely. This is Orton’s last shot to make a name for himself. If he doesn’t succeed in the next 6 games, he’ll be lucky to survive as a back up riding someone’s bench for another few seasons in the NFL.

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by Texas Chief on Nov 24, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Ummmm...

his previous track record
his previous win loss record

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by Texas Chief on Nov 24, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope.

1. It pumps up the fan base? Not from what I’m reading. It looks like a desperation move for a sinking team with few options behind center. That, and it keeps the Bears from getting him before the Chiefs go to Chicago. Oh, and precious little insight into Denver’s game plan, since it’s now Tebowed.

2. Orton is a free agent at season’s end. No one has to give up ANY draft pick to sign him. They just have to hold their nose and sign him.

3. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I heard somewhere that if you (KC in this case) get a guy in the last year of his contract (which you then pay the balance) and he only stays six weeks, you still get a compensatory draft pick… which would make it worth the 2.5 mil right there, if it’s true.

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by neiowakcfan on Nov 24, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

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