Poll: The projected lifespan of the Palko/Stanzi Era lovefest.
by JacinB on Nov 16, 2011 1:51 PM CST
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Let's be honest: You guys are fickle.
When Brodie Croyle was our quarterback, you wanted Huard. When Damon Huard was our quarterback, you wanted Thigpen. When Tyler Thigpen was our quarterback, we all cheered at his antics (Remember that long bomb he caught? Yeah, me too.), but we all realized that he wasn't the kind of quarterback we could build a franchise around.
We got Matt Cassel from the Patriots and we all thought it was a steal. Then, he struggled and we wanted Brodie back. Then, Cassel had an appendectomy and we actually got Brodie back and realized how dumb we were.
Cassel has been struggling again and the tide of opinion amongst the vast throngs of fans on Arrowhead Pride has slowly turned on him and, as the back-up QB is always the most popular guy on the roster, many have been crowing for the beginning of the Tyler Palko and/or Ricky Stanzi era.
After all, how could it possibly be worse, right ... ?
So, with history to guide us, I'd like to ask: How long it will be before we are, once again, wishing Matt Cassel a speedy recovery and hoping he can come back to save us from what we've wished upon ourselves?
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Cassel's dead to us. Long live 2012 1st round draft pick
Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.
by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 16, 2011 1:57 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Co-sign.
Yep that's right. Our starting QB wears a hairband.
by craig in calgary on Nov 16, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Here,here, KCQB20121stRdDP
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
Riley Reiff?
Guess that makes sense. Need someone to protect Stanzi. Barry Richardson certainly can’t do it.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Nov 16, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
and a lot of us
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
On board
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
That makes me sad...
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
I guess I kinda get the Stanzi lovefest
He kinda looks on paper like Brady did out of college with the same pedigree, plus he loves America (Don’t we all)
I don’t get the Palko lovefest. Maybe it’s just the fact he’s new and different and not Cassel, but I’m fully expecting him to do something so rediculous with the football, he’s going to leadoff espn’s year-end “C’mon man” hilight show..
Yep that's right. Our starting QB wears a hairband.
by craig in calgary on Nov 16, 2011 2:04 PM CST reply actions
Palko rhymes with Falco
And we all love Keanu Reeves.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Nov 16, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
speak for yourself
Keanu can’t act his way out of a paper bag. he was type cast in “The Day the Earth Stood Still.”
Hater
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
Clearly you have never seen "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey".
Cinema gold.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Nov 16, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sir, sir......I believe it's pronounced 'Merica, Fuck yeah!!
As Stanzi believe’s A’s are for Al-Qaeda.
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
I don't get the Palko lovefest, either...
but the Cassel injury forces the Chiefs hand on Stanzi, which I do love - I don’t wish Cassel harm, sorry he’s hurt, blah blah blah
but it’s time for the Chiefs to see what they’ve got, and we’ve seen what we’ve got in Cassel.
If neither Palko nor Stanzi can do any better (one TD every 120 offensive plays from scrimmage) then kick their patriotic asses to the curb, too.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
I don't think there is a Palko lovefest.
I think most people look at Palko as one step closer to Stanzi, which I don’t get. I’m a Hawkeye fan and loved the pick, but he isn’t ready and I don’t really think he is the answer. I see him as a solid backup for his career, which we have deperately needed as well. People are about to see what bad QB play is all about.
I don't think people are necessarily in love with
Stanzi/Palko. And I don’t think everybody genuinely hates Cassel (could be wrong). I think everybody just wants the offense on this team to get better.
I don’t know if what we’ve seen this year is Cassel sucking hard, or the fact that our offense is poorly coordinated and the play calling is questionable at best. But everybody is tired of what they’ve seen.
Hard to diagnose the situation without moving some parts around so here we go………
"The Chiefs only won last season's opener against the Chargers because of the monsoon that night".........yeah because it only rains on one team at a time!
Pretty much this, Hate is rediculous..
He’s just a bum ass QB, nothing more, nothing less. We’ve leased this car for a few years and the lease is up, time to turn it in for a 2012 model.
"Why are all these people here? There are too many people on this earth. We need a new plague…"
-Dwight Schrute
by severn58 on Nov 16, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts exactly
Even in our wins this year, offense has looked anemic.
Cassel, much as I’ve defended him in the past, was much of the problem in the last two games. Holding the ball too long (it’s been the knock on him since before he came to KC) and not getting to 2nd & 3rd reads.
Not in love with Stanzi or Palko yet, but want to see if changing something helps. Palko at QB forces a game-planning change. Change may help. I just don’t know yet…
thigpen
He was a sweet qb he had just as good as stats as cassel and ontop of that thigpen had a horrible team to pay with, cassel at the patriots where coming of a 16_0 season with number one ranked offense and top 5 defense any qb would have looked good with the new England team then.
That'll do pig.
by cansoko on Nov 16, 2011 2:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Who cares?
Let people get excited about something even if you know that that something is crappy QB. Between how the year’s gone, the injuries and the upcoming schedule, there’s little to be excited about so let people have their enjoyment.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Eh
Ive always been a Cassel supporter, but if either of these 2 guys outperforms or even to the level of(given the tough ass teams we gotta play) that’s cause for concern. The bigger bummer about all of this is I can’t even get excited about anyone behind center because of the people running this offense.
by KCinIL on Nov 16, 2011 2:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The bigger bummer about all of this is I can’t even get excited about anyone behind center because of the people running this offense.
Yeah I’m really starting to question why the offense is so poorly organized.
"The Chiefs only won last season's opener against the Chargers because of the monsoon that night".........yeah because it only rains on one team at a time!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 16, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
This argument needs to be settled on the field
There is not hate for Cassel. It is frustration. When you have a player with all the necessary skills to play the game and you have invested a lot of time with them, it becomes frustrating when you see them regress. The last San Diego game was Cassel’s finest hour. He looked good in that game, not perfect, but good. Then the last two games Cassel regresses. No one knows which QB will show-up and when this starts happening to any player, at any level, the coaches and fans are ready to move-on.
A team and fans need to have confidence in the player and need to see consistent progress, or that confidence will not be gone and so will the player. Whether this is right or wrong you willl have to judge for yourselves, but it is just the way it goes.
When you have a player with all the necessary skills to play the game and you have invested a lot of time with them, it becomes frustrating when you see them regress.
Is that why San Diego is calling for Billy Volek?
Different situation, different QB who is better than Matt Cassel
Except for maybe the stat lines. Too bad statistics don’t play then Cassel would be a great QB if only Arthur Anderson can fudge the numbers enough to convince us he is. But, the eye in the sky doesn’t lie and Matt just doesn’t have it consistently. He regresses instead and in San Diego it is the whole team which has regressed so it goes on the coach then.
San Diego has not regressed
they are simply playing to the level of their talent… name five guys on that team that any other GM lusts for, and the fat tight end with a foot injury doesn’t count.
I went to the “Bolts from the Blue” site and said as much: they are soft, Phyllis is a whiner, and he’ll ultimately cough up a game he should win, and got banned. “Troll” is a new word for “speaker of the truth.”
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
There are probably over 25 players on the San Diego roster
that others would want. The safety Eric Weddle is just one example. Even horrible teams have their players picked-up by others and those same players will usually perform well with their new teams. You can’t tell me that San Diego has less than 5 NFL caliber players and expect me, or anyone else to believe that.
Yeah
Because Matt Cassel and Philip Rivers have had very similar levels of success…
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Completing passes at 66% for 8.7 YPA and 4700 yards
Is light years better than 58%, 6.9 YPA and 3100 yards.
Not even a close contest at all. The only thing Matty Nice has over Rivers was 7 picks to 13 for Rivers. And seeing as Rivers threw 3 more TDs than Cassel, it evens out a little… there
Rivers blew Cassel out of the water last year despite not having his best receiver.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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Another Phyllis Rivers lovefest...
it gets so old. Marty wanted Brees, the San Diego front office went with Phyllis. Result? Brees has a ring, Phyllis does not and will not. We already know that about Cassel. Why you wonder about Rivers?
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
How is it a lovefest
To just respond to a wrong argument? I didn’t bring the dude up…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
by MNchiefsfan on Nov 16, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Easy...
Rivers blew Cassel out of the water last year despite not having his best receiver.
And Rivers watched Matt Cassel get blown out of the playoffs from his couch.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
So because his team made the playoffs, he's a better QB?
Another wrongheaded argument. Last year Sanchize went farther than Manning in the playoffs. Is he better?
It’s not a lovefest to state a fact. And the fact is that comparing Rivers to Cassel is to compare two very different players, one of whom has been far more successful than the other.
Then again, you’ve used “lovefest” 3 different times here talking about 3 different players and 3 different types of statements/attitudes, so you seem to have a rather wide defintion of the term.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Yep, I like me a lovefest.
I staunchly oppose any Rivers love. He’s a loser. Show me a big game he has won. Even one.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
To call a player better than Cassel isn't love
It’s saying they’re better than mediocre.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Too cold
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Correct.
Both have led their teams to the playoffs and have both been put in their place.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Matt didn't lead anyone to the playoffs
He was the third best player on his own offense at best…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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OK fair enough
I won’t argue semantics, even though the QB is usually credited as the leader of the team…
but anyhoo, Rivers has done crap, accomplished crap, will continue to do crap this year, but at least he is the Chargers “franchise QB” y’all get wet over and wonder why we can’t have a piece of crap like him behind center.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Yeah, it'd sure be awful
If we had a piece of crap QB with career numbers like Rivers.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Who cares about career numbers?
Talk to Dan Marino about career numbers.
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So Marino sucked too?
And Jim Kelly?
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Didn't suck like Rivers.
But didn’t win dick.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Go on... I'm curious as to your point
So unless a QB won a SB he’s irrelevant?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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Not irrelevant, but
if Steve Young hadn’t won one in SF, would I even remember his name?
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Do you remember Jim Kelly?
But yeah, SB is a gamechanger
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
It does factor in heavily for me. Probably more heavily than most.
That’s not to say that Trent Dilfer > Dan Marino. But I would rather have had Dilfer’s career for the Super Bowl win alone.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 16, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Rivers has done crap, accomplished crap
That’s true. He’s no , yanno, Ricky Stanzi.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Did Rivers win an Orange Bowl?
Still waiting for the big Rivers accomplishment.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
So Barry Sanders was a really crappy RB too then, right?
And D-Bowe’s a bad receiver, as well as Andre Johnson.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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Ah, but Barry Sanders wasn't a QB.
and as for active players, their legacy is yet to be written, just like Matt Cassel’s. But your argument was that Cassel didn’t lead the Chiefs last year, wasn’t it?
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No, the argumet was that it's stupid to compare Cassel to Rivers
Since one has been a way better player.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Okay, so, to whom would you compare Cassel?
??
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Why compare him to anyone?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Better yet, to whom would you compare Rivers?
Another QB who put up great numbers and never won anything? Like the Air Coryell years?
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Not sure, I'd have to give it some thought
And I’m skyping the wife and kids now, so no time for it…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Look, Rivers plays for the Chargers.
Go to “Bolts from the Blue.” They love you.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Always a classic when people resort to that one.
Apparently there’s never been a good player ever on a rival team, gotta wear blinders and say only Chiefs players are good.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
NEVER said only Chiefs players are good.
NEVER. In fact, I can name many good pros the Chiefs passed on, as I am sure you can.
Just don’t buy your argument that Rivers is THE MAN.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
Show me where I said he's THE MAN...
See, two way street. Rivers is hardly the man, and there’s a half dozen QB’s or more I’d rather take, but he doesn’t suck by any stretch of the imagination (except this year, apparently),
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
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Yes, he does suck.
He has consistently “led” a team with buckets of talent until recently to a division title and underperformed in the post-season… wait, no, that was Marty and the Chiefs. Never mind.
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Ha! Nice...
Flashbacks to the 90’s?
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Needs more pictures
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by KC_Satchmo on Nov 16, 2011 2:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I have been practicing the following phrases ready for Monday
“Oh my God, are we punting already?”
“Did we just run three times for a loss?”
“Oww, that’s gonna hurt”
“Oh dear, third and long again”
and just before the end of the game:
“And that’s a Kansas City Chiefs first down, their very first”
Blame my wife!
Just because I haven't responded, doesn't mean you won the argument!
Here's one...
“Brady has all day in the pocket… he steps up and finds Gronkowski for the touchdown!”
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 16, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
when I say “practicing” what I actually mean is “used continuously for the past two weeks games”.
Blame my wife!
Just because I haven't responded, doesn't mean you won the argument!
I don't know whether to laugh or cry about that.
Laughing at least takes the pain away.
Announcer phrases we should be ready to hear:
“You can’t give Brady THAT much time in the pocket…”
“Tom has all day to pick on the Chiefs injured defensive backfield..”
“Tyler Palko is showing some guts as he is once again sacked by Andre Carter, I’m impressed with his ability to scrape himself off the turf again and again.”
“If Palko was a cat he’d have used all nine lives by now” (midway through the 3rd quarter)
“If there were a stat for most uncalled holds against a defensive player Tamba Hali would be number 1” (ok maybe thats me saying that)
“How is Barry Richardson STILL in the NFL?”
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
I heard some of those Brady phrases Sunday night
As far as the Tamba line; it’s a common consesus on that issue
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
- Ricky Stanzi to the rescue!
by Mas Cervezas on Nov 16, 2011 4:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You missed quite possibly the most used phrase of the night
Gruden: I really like [insert player name]
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Nov 18, 2011 5:39 AM CST up reply actions
I voted 1st quarter
but, my guess is that most people won’t be missing Cassel…. they’ll be talking about the draft, assuming the season is over
Eh, I voted 2nd qtr of the Pitt game.
That way we have a full game to hate Palko, and a qtr of mediocrity to unfairly judge our rookie QB who has yet to have a chance to get up to speed.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Nov 16, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Check that.
Apparently I voted “Cassel’s dead”…I hate this computer.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Nov 16, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I considered that option being ...
’Cassel’s dead to us. Long live Palko/Stanzi. (But ask me again next Tuesday.)’
You ever figure out how much more you needed to see out of Cassel?
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
I've seen enough of Cassel.
Our offensive playbook calls for a game-managing leader who, though he may not be Peyton Manning or Aaron Rogers, doesn’t turn the ball over and, when he has access a good running game and a serviceable amount of pass protection, can keep our offense on the field and make plays.
Cassel has proven that he can do that.
His ‘regression’ this year has as much to do with the lackluster play of the offensive line (how often have people complained about Lilja and Wiegs?), the lack of a running game (thanks to Two-yard Thomas and Jamaal’s injury), the lack of a tight end that can consistently block and act as a receiving threat (thanks to Tony Moeaki’s injury) and the befuddling play-calling (most likely thanks to Zorn and Haley having to wake up the Muir portion of that threesome to call in a play) as it does anything Cassel himself has done.
If anything, Cassel’s shown improvement checking down to his receivers this year (now that his options aren’t Dwayne Bowe or … well, Dwayne Bowe).
First time you've spoken with sound logic
since your Matt Cassel lovefest began. Believe me, I’m the guy that has consistently said “Cassel is the best QB on the roster.” But no more. Now, I must introduce you to
THE STANZI CITY CHIEFS!
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So, if I can paraphrase what you said
If Cassel has a top 5 running game, and a pro-bowl O-Line, then he can barely manage to not suck.
This is all that is required to be the Chiefs QBOTF.
2010 = The beginning of a dynasty
by ChiefWildcat on Nov 17, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
Nope.
What I said was: Cassel can excel in this offense if he has all of the components of this offense available to him.
He’s proven he can do it and, next year, when all of those pieces are healthy and available again, I expect him to put up another Pro Bowl calibre year (as he did in New England and as he did here last year).
You mean alternate Pro Bowl year, yes?
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fixed
they’ll be talking about the draft, assuming knowing the season is over
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Nov 18, 2011 5:40 AM CST up reply actions
There's maybe two people who want Palko over Stanzi.
And even then they usually argue that we don’t want to throw Stanzi in the toughest part of the schedule, not that Palko is necessarily better.
That said, I think everybody realizes Cassel will never be a great QB, and wants Stanzi or a first round pick to replace him. More reasonable minds (i.e. the ones who agree with me) said we should keep Cassel for now, and start Stanzi next year. But now that Cassel’s out, Stanzi should be the better option.
I also said Palko will make us miss Cassel, but I don’t think Stanzi would. SO the answer to your poll depends on when, or if, they play Stanzi.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 16, 2011 2:54 PM CST reply actions
I'm not sure how to feel about Cassel/Palko/Stanzi
Where is Aiken_Drum to tell me what to think?
Yep that's right. Our starting QB wears a hairband.
by craig in calgary on Nov 16, 2011 2:56 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
He still does that?
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
It’s gotten worse.
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
sigh
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
Just search for “Maximum Effort.”
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
Are those posts still as long
as Atlas Shrugged?
I think I'll pass
I like him better now that I don’t read his posts. Seems ironic tho that when I jumped him for telling people what to think I got roasted for it. Seems to be popular opinion now……
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
Sophomoric behavior never ends
No matter the age or forum…
I’ll just sip my beer after work and play MW3 and wait for the next disaster to unfold…
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
- Ricky Stanzi to the rescue!
by Mas Cervezas on Nov 16, 2011 4:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just give MAXIMUM EFFORT. then you'll know that Cassel is the best
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:10 AM CST up reply actions
Just by skimming the comments re: Matt Cassel these last 3 days
I’d guess “Dead to us……….” is going to win. People are just tired of all poor play and the endless list of excuses for it that they just want this all to end and look forward to brighter future. Hope always springs eternal and ends after the games are played.
Wanting a QB change doesn't always mean the guy we want to be the new QB is going to be the one to lead the team to the SuperBowl
but it does mean that giving an unknown commodity a chance to play and see how he performs is a much better option then sticking with the default QB that’s already been given a chance for a couple years and it’s painfully obvious that he won’t get the team to a Superbowl.
The Chiefs need to find a Superbowl QB, in order to do that, there needs to be some movement at the QB position, it's one of the laws of physics:
An object in motion tends to stay in motion; an object at rest, tends to stay at rest. That doesn’t mean that the Chiefs need to be continuously changing their QB because you need stability at the QB position, but until they find that QB they need to get someone different behind center than Cassel. Honestly, it will help evaluate Cassel as well.
Exactly
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
I would have always wanted Cassel over Palko
in fact, I actually think there is more things to be blamed for this season then Cassel. But if we are at the point where we have to chose Palko or Stanzi, I would go with Stanzi. Even if Cassel wasnt hurt and we were playing a dead season, why not take a shot with Stanzi.
It’s not that we are all fickle. It’s that sometimes you gotta change things to get a different outcome. Biggest thing to change is the QB. Thats all
I want Stanzi to have a shot just because of his highly touted potential
if he shows up then hell yes we’re awesome. If he doesn’t then hell yes RGIII in the 1st!
BOOM!
by 808NaNz808 on Nov 16, 2011 4:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This
A thousand times this
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Not yet.
He’s not ready. Throw Palko in there, lose every game for the rest of the season to improve draft status, and draft an impact offensive lineman or an impact LB. Let Cassel suck it up for a few games NEXT year, and then throw Ricky in there.
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 16, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Bold strategy my friend
But who knows with 1 Arrowhead drive these days….
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
- Ricky Stanzi to the rescue!
by Mas Cervezas on Nov 16, 2011 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm excited to see the following
Stanzi’s performance
Gaither’s performance
Houston’s progression
Powe finally playing-performance
I believe ( IMHO ) that these key players will dictate How-Whom- at what position we draft.
FTR- I’m all in on Stanzi- it’s all I got left. Dexter let me down game 1….
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
- Ricky Stanzi to the rescue!
by Mas Cervezas on Nov 16, 2011 4:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Whether one is for, or against Cassel,
You have to like the fact that we will now see what this team does without him under center. Maybe we will soon discover serious problems everywhere that the removal of Cassel now makes glaringly obvious. Maybe we will see the team respond to new blood and find its mojo again. Either way, it will be a welcome change from the stagnant, predictable, substandard crap we’ve been force-fed for most of this season now.
Ancora imparo.
qb's...crap...
I’m still waiting on the o-line to be rebuilt…don’t really care who gets wacked on a weekly basis.
There is a lot of hype surrounding Stanzi
Many draft experts saw him as a starter this year had he been in the right situation. I think Chiefs fans should legitimately be excited about him.
by jonnyu on Nov 16, 2011 8:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
however…
had he been in the right situation.
seems to be a problem.
Ladies and Gentlemen, here are YOUR STANZI CITY CHIEFS!!
I voted 3rd qtr pats
But that’s me personally. Knowing how the more vocal commenters are around here, I figure there’s some people that would be the most thrilled if we just called off the season now.
Palko>Flacco
FYI…Palko started before Flacco at PIT and Flacco starts for the ravens… I think if he is better than Flacco then we have a shot at having a great QB
by Caleb Alan Rhoades on Nov 17, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions
Hey, I'd take Flacco
For all his inconsistency, I think his “highs” are enough to get to the SB…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
by MNchiefsfan on Nov 17, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't been fickle at all
I never liked Cassel and I don’t think Palco or Stanzi are long term answers
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 17, 2011 4:03 PM CST reply actions
I have stood by matt cassel, I like him, but I have realized its realistic to move on, doesnt change that I respect the guy, I just dont think hes going to win any big games
palko, is left handed, and I still think he has no shot.(Like leftys)
Ive always been on Team Stanzi. I was before the draft as a fan of iowa football. Stanzi can be an incredible QB, but im not expecting him to be even very good to start with. I just believe over time he has the best chance to succeed.
this isnt about just a backup QB being better than the starting QB or whatever as many fans typically believe….this is more about a QB who reminds many of brady, he was mentored by the man brady was, he works very very very hard. film film film, and hes improved, year, after year…something that tends to be an issue with superstars in college who hit their peak, Stanzi also may have peaked, or the guy will continue to improve as he did every single year in college, in every single facet of his game
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
the love for stanzi has merit
go read that. Its very interesting, especially the list of players, sure there is one or two busts, but it validates the love for stanzi from those who followed his college career
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
by SDChief on Nov 17, 2011 7:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
within the article is the first one that broke down his lack of red flags
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Interesting
but I still say the Stanzi love-fest is over-inflated. He had a very good senior season but was inconsistent before that. I think he can develop into a pro-level QB, but don’t know if he came in as pro-ready as Dalton and some of the others who are playing well right now.I think he has a better shot than Palko at being a solid starter and would like to see him get some pro experience this season. In any event, the coaching staff and GM need to see what he has before we spend a high draft pick on a different QB.
Herm Edwards Robbed Damon Huard of his chance...
by putting in Trent Green to finish the season after he recovered from his head injury, basically screwed our season and probably Huards confidence.
When Huard was starting after Trent’s Head injury, there was only one qb with a better “QB RATING” than Huard …. Peyton Manning.
Palko will do fine. I think he finishes the season for us and we go 8-8
That would be a miracle I wouldn't want
Palko may look good like how Thiggy looked good. doesn’t mean he’s the answer. yet we’d be stuck with a mid round draft pick. Meaning we have to trade up to get one of the top tier QBs
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Nov 18, 2011 5:44 AM CST up reply actions
great point.
as good as thiggy did look, as fun as he was….I never bought in, I feel like any palko success will be similar. some WR will make a ridiculous play and palko all of a sudden is a QB throwing for scores.
I saw more from stanzi in the preseason than I have from cassel all year outside of a couple drives in the colts game, and a few other drives here and there. and I know, its preseason, but pocket poise is quite easy to judge in the preseason, the kid looked like a vet.. watch that TD to cody slate….he made slate look like a legit weapon at TE
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Pocket poise is great, when there is a pocket.
Lately, our line hasn’t been playing well at all. Would you want Stanzi to get banged up?
There is no doubting Stanzi’s potential, but Palko deserves a shot to play and has earned it with 5 years of waiting. The season is pretty much over anyway, so why risk throwing Stanzi into a line that needs to be replaced.
"TEBOWING"
What we need to hope for if nothing else is that Palko/Stanzi give their teammates a spark like Tebow did. Don’t get me wrong I think Tebow is awful as a QB but that entire team has changed it’s play for him. That’s what we need here.
by Chiefsfan_in_the_MileHigh on Nov 18, 2011 1:11 AM CST reply actions
cassel struggled and we wanted croyle?
… i, for one…. never wanted croyle. he could fling it, but not from his hospital bed. that rendered him useless. the problem with cassel is his paycheck and the hype. we got a guy who filled in on a great team so he got good results. we paid for the patriots record. not for the man who generated that record. so cassel will always be pver priced. he took the money so he desrves the criticism. he has been what he is but he will never be worth what we paid for what he is.
you can’t hate on palko… he’s like dollar store sunglasses. if he works out… that’s fantastic. if he breaks the first time he gets sat on… well… he’s f’in dollar store sun glasses! god bless ‘im.
thigpen did what he could for what he had. yup… we could have been 10-6 last yr with thigpen handing off to charles and throwing short passes when the defenses moved up. and we could be four and five with him this year. guess what? he ain’t here. we got what we got.
with no real first team running back and no real blocking, you can’t really knock any quarterback we play unless he just throws picks straight at defenders on his own bad reads.
we run for some yards but defenses don’t fear anything we have and our defense doesn’t scare anyone enough off their game to take any pressure off our qb.
unless everyone picks it ups and plays a competitive game to give palko/stanzi/embryo a real shot… it’s all a moot point.
just, pleeeease…… don’t ever use the words croyle, lovefest, and “we” in the same article. and let’s be real… it’s really hardly been a love fest for any of these guys. seeing as we are committed to marching in the kansas city quarterback kennel we can’t avoid stepping in some dogcrap. we’re just being hopeful that’s it’s something marvelous we’re tracking into our living rooms this time, even though it appears it could be just another mess.
yep. Im 100 percent on board with stanzi.
and I NEVER. EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, wanted croyle to be the starter.
in fact, I mocked such things.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Stanzi for life
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