Bill Belichick On The Scott Pioli-Led Kansas City Chiefs

by Joel Thorman on Nov 15, 2011 4:05 PM CST

The Kansas City Chiefs are traveling to New England to face the Patriots on Monday Night Football and, as we noted in our connections post, there are a lot of ties between these two organizations. That starts between Chiefs GM Scott Pioli and Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, who worked together for much of their NFL careers.

Belichick met with the New England media on Tuesday and was asked if he sees Pioli's fingerprints on the makeup of the Chiefs. In Belichick style, he answered the question by saying a whole lot without really saying anything at all.

"That's a tough question," Belichick said. "I'm not really sure how to answer that one. They've obviously added players in the last three drafts, so they have some you ger players on the team along with some of the guys that are already there.

"You know, Todd Haley, I coached with him at the Jets and many of the other people on that staff whether it be Romeo, Anthony Pleasant on the defensive side fo the ball, Otis obviously, Richie Anderson, Bill Muir on the offensive side of the ball along with Todd Haley, and Scott.

"I think it's a mixture of all those things. There are certainly some similarities that were with the Jets in the 1997, 1998, 1999 years when many of us were together. There are some things that maybe you could relate to the Patriots. Romeo and I go way back to the Giants, the 3-4 defense and some of the things they do defensively. Some of the players that they have, you know, going back to whether it's Maurice Carthon, Otis Smith or Anthony Pleasant, those guys, we were all together with the Jets one time. There's a lot of inner-twining there.

"Certainly, you know, Scott as the top guy in the organization has implemented his philosophy but again that's sort of....I think, all those people have a high degree of that philosophy together. Sure, you see all that in the team."

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sadly

we got the wrong guy from the pats

MATT CASSEL is NOT the answer!

by fujirio on Nov 15, 2011 4:09 PM CST reply actions

As opposed to who?

Josh McDaneils?

by bamachief5558 on Nov 15, 2011 4:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs

I think he's referring to Jeff Pader - their waterboy

They lost him to the Vikings in early ’09

If only we had offered enough… he might have been mixing our Gatorade and hydrating our players.

Of all the guys that left the Pats in ’09 (Josh McDaniels, Scott Pioli, Brad Seely, Dom Capers) – Pader is the one we let slip away.

by Ochophosphate on Nov 15, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

Yeah, but Cassel was the one available. Not Brady.

by DSteck42 on Nov 15, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions

Bill hasn't been the best in the draft either

by worc on Nov 15, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions

And who should we have gotten?

Billichick?
Brady?
Neither one of them would have came, so . . . who?

by KC Scout on Nov 15, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions

Kraft

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 15, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs

I was just looking at that 2000 draft class

In round 5 there was 3 probowlers taken including Dante Hall
In round 6 there was 4 probowlers taken including Tom Brady. We passed on Brady to take Darnell Alford who played 1 game.

Yep that's right. Our starting QB wears a hairband.

by craig in calgary on Nov 15, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

So there were no good NFL scouts in 1999?

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Nov 15, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions

Evidently, not in KC at that time.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 15, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, KC's the only team that passed on Craig's seven late round probowlers.

The Chiefs had 132 draft picks that year.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Nov 15, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

No kidding :) But I have to admit, it feels a little way, looking back on it.

Darnell Alford. Wow…I hoped for good things from that guy. Boy was I dumb back then.

Imagine if Carl hadn’t pissed off John Tait AND if Victor Riley had panned out. Think of that for a minute.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 16, 2011 7:58 AM CST up reply actions

Nor in NE.

Since they let a HOF QB slip until the 6th round.

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by Tarkus on Nov 15, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions

I bet Bill lets his scouts sleep in the meeting room. Sheesh.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 16, 2011 7:55 AM CST up reply actions

The only teams that liked Brady was the Pats and SD. Just be glad SD didn’t take Brady :)

by Revenge of the Fallen on Nov 15, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions

Brady would be out of the league if he went to the Chiefs.

After Willie Roaf and Will Shields retired, Brady would have got hurt because we have a bad O line.

by rdlvegas85 on Nov 15, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions

What?

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Nov 15, 2011 4:18 PM CST reply actions

yeah, i got nothing out of what bill said too

by worc on Nov 15, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions

its the usual. He could of simply said, yes

by Jay Cotton on Nov 15, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions

but that would of been too logical

by Jay Cotton on Nov 15, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions

I got "yes" with an undertone of "all us ex-Jets formed a cabal and burned our fingerprints off."

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Nov 15, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions

Perfectly explained...

did you work for the Jets 97-99?

by Jay Cotton on Nov 15, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions

Questions like that can be dangerous.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Nov 15, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions

Bill and Todd are both maters of coach speak

They HAVE to spend x number of minutes talking to the press each week, and each week they fill those mintues saying little to nothing what so ever. I’m not a coach, and I have done this a time or two myself.

by DivineGrace on Nov 15, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions

Unfortunately, Pioli was unable to bottle the winning formula and bring it with him from New England.

The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.

by saskwatch on Nov 15, 2011 4:29 PM CST reply actions 4 recs

FLAGGED!

And rec’d. I’m confused.

When you gotta go in the lion's den, you don't go quiet. You go in loud, kick the door down and say WHERE IS THE SONUVABITCH. -B. Billick

by Brsrkr on Nov 15, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions

double that! WTF!

that’s a train-wreck of awesome and horrible and it’s… I can’t stop looking… it’s like a huge zit or a nip-slip.

And like many things on the internets – what is seen cannot be unseen!

by Ochophosphate on Nov 15, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions

Yep.

by Tomahawk29 on Nov 15, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs

^^^^^

Answer to the question “Is it Matt Cassel’s QB play, our piss-poor O-line protection, or Bill Muir’s terrible playcalling that’s responsible for our offensive woes?”

by joplin chiefs fan on Nov 15, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions

It's a combo of them all.

Muir is not talented enough to hide Cassel’s shortcomings with creative playcalling. He also doesn’t trust the line (or maybe the backs) enough to go run heavy. So he’s stuck calling sucky plays, because he doesn’t know how to work with what he does have.

While talent should obviously be in the discussion, quality coaching is top of the list. A great coach can make/keep a mediocre team competitive. A great coach knows how to make adjustments and play his teams strengths against the other teams weaknesses. A great coach has his team well prepared come each game day.

We’re missing all the above.

by Chiefsfansince85 on Nov 16, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions