Tyler Palko, Not Ricky Stanzi, Next In Line With Matt Cassel's Injury
by Joel Thorman on Nov 14, 2011 2:56 PM CST
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Kansas City Chiefs QB Matt Cassel suffered a significant hand injury in Sunday's loss to the Denver Broncos which will require surgery. Chiefs coach Todd Haley said Cassel's season is in jeopardy after the injury. That the Chiefs have even acknowledged the injury should tell you it's pretty serious.
We'll be dissecting this situation all week but the immediate question is who plays on Monday Night Football against the New England Patriots. That would be Tyler Palko, the Chiefs immediate backup this season.
This raises another question: What about Ricky Stanzi?
The Chiefs spent a fifth round pick on Stanzi in the 2011 NFL draft so the obvious reaction from some in the fan base is that the Chiefs should see what they have in Stanzi.
But that's unlikely to happen. Kent Babb of the KC Star has said a few times this year, including just today after the Cassel news came out, that Stanzi is not a candidate to play this year for the Chiefs. "Will not factor in the rest of the way," Babb tweeted.
So, there's that. Maybe circumstances change things down the road but, for now, Tyler Palko is your starting quarterback of the Chiefs.
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If the product on the Field
Works with Palko, and they win Monday night, I do not care which QB it is.
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I know there are a lot of people clamoring for Ricky Stanzi
but it’s for the best to start Palko right now. You don’t want Stanzi’s career to begin with the hardest 4 game stretch in franchise history. I wouldn’t be surprised if they brought in another QB to take the number 2 spot ahead of Stanzi.
The Pats have a terrible pass defense.
This is the exact game I’d like him to start for his first game.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah but we're are still in the division race (somehow)
it’s just too much pressure to put on a developing QB. He’s not going to have any help from our running game and will be forced to put the offense on our back. Plus, I doubt he has very good rhythm with our first teamers. The Pats may have a terrible pass defense, but our offensive line has collapsed in the past two weeks. Plus, I don’t care how well or terrible the Pats are playing, I don’t want our QB of the future to have his first start in Foxboro. You can hinder the development of a young QB by throwing him into an impossible situation… especially 4 weeks in a row.
But we aren't going to win the Division.
I’ve accepted it..after losing to Miami and Denver back-to-back, now facing murderer’s row just ahead, I just don’t see how theres any way we’re going to win it.
3 of the next 5 games
Are against weak passing D’s. Patriots=Worst In The League. Bears=29th. Packers=31st. I’m actually all for throwing in Stanzi. At first I looked at the schedule and thought no way would I want Stanzi in that brutal stretch, but after looking at the defensive rankings of those teams, I say “In Ricky I Trust”
That Might Pop Wide Open Rats!
by 65TossPwrTrap on Nov 14, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Those teams also score lots of points
Thus requiring their opponents to play catch-up ball….which means lots of passing. Doesn’t necessarily correlate to a bad passing D.
But that's going to be the same for us
I don’t envision us stopping the Bears, or the Patriots, and DEFINITELY not the Packers offense.
It should also be noted...
That these teams all have a top 10 run defense. They are going to stack the box and force us to beat them in the air.
Go Chiefs!!!!
They have top 10 run defense because...
They play so poorly against the pass. No need to run when you can easily get chunks of yards by tossing the rock around all day. Besides, with their offenses we’ll likely be forced to pass anyway just to try and keep up, so there won’t be any stacking of the box IMO.
That Might Pop Wide Open Rats!
by 65TossPwrTrap on Nov 14, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I fully expect them all to be blitzing 80+% of the time untill the game gets out of reach.
They are going to want to shut down our lackluster run game and they will want to put as much pressure as they can on a new starting QB. Putting pressure on Palko/Stanzi is going to end up with costly scores.
These are aggressive defenses that aren’t going to play finesse with an extra DB out in coverage.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Ironically, if Palko does well, your observation on opposing defenses will take some of the luster off.
And I think the long ball just might be what the opposition is going to give up, if anything, figuring they can get to ANY KC QB before anything deep can develop.
It sucks that Cassel got hurt, but at the same time, it’s been looking like the WR position group is significantly ahead of the QB. Somebody that can scramble out of trouble and make a good throw on the extended (but unchoreographed) play might take the offense to the next level. Dunno if the NEXT level is going to be competitive, but always looking to improve…
would of ≠ would've
It will be very interesting
If Palco significantly outperforms what we’ve seen from Cassel so far this year.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
as well as
teams don’t run against them because they are behind.
Run and pass defense yardage rankings are more useful for fantasy than real life.
"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance
clay mattews, juluis peppers
by Montana Chief on Nov 14, 2011 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
clamoring for Stanzi
Briging in another backup qb is not the answer. Cassel was a backup qb and you know what the Chiefs got in him. Play Stanzi, Chiefs need to know what he can do. Other teams are starting rookie qbs and they seem to be doing well.
Only one team is doing well with a rookie QB and that is Cincinnati.
Take away their top 10 Defense (much better than the Chiefs) and their running game (better than the Chiefs) and even with Dalton they would not be as good.
Beyond that you have Newton (doing great but still losing), Locker (not even starting), Gabbert (not doing well), Ponder (another losing team), Mallett (also not starting).
Who are these teams that are starting rookie QB and doing well?
by DivineGrace on Nov 15, 2011 12:47 AM CST up reply actions
How is Stanzi
not a backup?
10 years from now nobody will know who EITHER of these guys are.
"Trying is the first step to sucking" -Jimmy Chance
Real Talk
Stop the Stanzi chatter. There is NO WAY he would give us a better chance to win than Palko.
I think Stanzi is going to be a good QB, I loved that we picked him. I was a proponent of it and had it on my mock draft.
That being said, Palko has way more experience and is the right (only) man for the job.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
How can you make claims when you don't know the future...
Are you Nostradamus?
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Nov 14, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Palko has experience
That is better than a green rookie starting the first game of his career AT New England. No matter what the long-term outlook on their careers is.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
He doesn't have very much experience at all
I think the only experience he has is as a chief in the pre-season and at the end of games so far this year.
by LHO on Nov 14, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He got some trash time with other teams
Point is he’s been around the NFL longer, has seen more coverages/fronts/defenses etc…
He’s just older and more mature, less likely to get rattled IMO.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Yes, and if he sucks, there's always Stanzi.
But I generally agree with going with the veteran backup.
What I’d be concerned with is the fact that the southpaw has a distinctly different style, whereas Stanzi is more your full-size, 6’4’’, 230-pound QB.
Of course, I’m always partial to the QB with the best feet, as long as he can throw OK. And even though I feel bad for Cassel, it WILL be nice to see a QB with quick feet, and a little more dink-and-dunk quickness, get a chance to share the field with this group. There are too many screens to McCluster by design (GIMMICKRY!) and too few by exigent circumstances (Where’s your 2-on-2 game, in that 4 seconds of chaos?). That’s where Dex could KILL, but it’s always either scripted or not even tried or poorly executed, and I don’t think it’d take more than a New York minute for Dex to embrace those screens and dump-offs, if they’re taken when they’re there (and nothing else is there).
would of ≠ would've
by hmills110 on Nov 14, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Experience at what? Warming benches?
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Nov 14, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Palko has taken snaps in actual NFL games.
Stanzi has never even seen the sideline.
Yeah, Palko has more experience.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Stanzi has seen the sideline!
He’s at every game.
Just not dressed out because he’s inactive.
Same with Powe.
We Don't Hear The Hate
Is he ever holding a clipboard, wearing a headset, getting involved in any way that would enable him to learn?
Or is his ass just planted on the bench?
I want to see him play ASAP, too, but Palko is more prepared for it.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
last season. who was the one with the clipboard, next to the coach etc? CROYLE. aka the 2nd string guy has that job
thats why its not stanzi, and it shouldnt be. but this wont last long, as if palko struggles mightily, how can you not try the kid
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
This is what I'm saying.
Stanzi is not really prepared to start an NFL game, I don’t think.
But I’d like to see him in there at some point.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Highly likely, unless Palko turns into the Slavic Ryan Fitzpatrick...
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Stanzi should be active this week.
Stanzi should be the #2, holding the clipboard, and wearing headphones and be involved in the game. That’s a step in the right direction.
You know why Iowa has no professional football team? Because then Minnesota would want one, too.
by neiowakcfan on Nov 15, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, thank you.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
really? I think you have too much faith in palko with that statement.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
It's easy to say that now. And maybe it's true.
But if Palko is truly terrible and it becomes apparent that the season is lost, then it starts getting a lot harder to not throw Stanzi out there to see if he shows anything.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
by MtHammer on Nov 14, 2011 3:02 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
CALABALLOO
KC Draft prediction: No OT taken in first round
by trentchiefsfan on Nov 14, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Lots of people said same thing about Jackie Battle
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
I'm not sure I follow.
Is Jackie Battle equivalent to Tyler Palko or Ricky Stanzi?
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Palko
Just a back-up, been cut, signed, cut again. Now he gets his chance.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Ok. So I see where you're coming from from the "Palko may yet prove his worth standpoint."
But what if he doesn’t. What if he sucks and heading into week 16 the Chiefs are 4-10? At that point I think it gets a lot harder to justify not giving Stanzi a shot. That’s all I’m saying.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Yeah, maybe
But you have to remember he hasn’t had ANY 1st string snaps in practice ALL year.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Would be stupid to throw him to the wolves THIS week.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Absolutely.
I’m just saying, I wouldn’t count out the possibility of Palko getting benched towards the end of the year.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Cassel's injury forces the issue, and it might be a good thing.
KC now has to do something DIFFERENT at QB and after this up-and-down season, with dreadfully inconsistent offense and persistent confusion before the snap, we’ll see if Cassel was part of the problem and not just a victim of circumstance. And knowing Cassel, it might be like having a REAL QB coach on the sidelines, when his focus is on making Palko do better, and I think Cassel has that kind of integrity and works hard enough to make himself very useful in other ways, when he can’t play.
I don’t think Palko has much of a deep ball, so I’m not looking for a whole lot of double moves, but I can see wheel routes becoming a weapon. The only way he’s likely to really get something over the top is by catching the defense coming forward, and uncorking on a go route off the 3-step drop (West Coast kind of deep game – get it off before Rice runs farther than Joe can throw).
I’m halfway excited to know that movement at the QB position is being imposed. I certainly don’t look for them to have their heart set on Palko, so the likelihood he gets the hook if things are going poorly, seems pretty high. And the last 13 games (counting preseason) suggests that things are going to go poorly.
As critical as I am of the O-Line, I KNOW they’re giving more than last year’s unit was giving. I’d like to see a new face appear before season’s end (Hudson or Gaither), but I have a strong impression that there are a number of plays where a QB with more field/pocket awareness COULD make something more happen than Cassel has been doing. Protection is rarely going to be perfect, but you have to sense what your guys are giving you, too. Brady is SLOW, but he can sidestep the heat and make the laser throw. I don’t need to see lasers, but I really want to see GOOD passes off the extended play.
would of ≠ would've
by hmills110 on Nov 14, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
agree,. hate to say it, but this may be an injury with a positive end result for the KC chiefs
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I just remember seeing Lilja (or Wiegs) being driven straight back, but still keeping in front of the pass rusher.
Cassel flushing prematurely, rather than just keeping the lineman’s body between the pass rush and him. Right into the arms of the pass rusher. A guy with instinct for the way the bodies are flying could find plenty of room, there, but Cassel’s happy feet ran him right into trouble.
He’ll run the right way enough times to fool me, but the wrong ways are starting to really stack up. I don’t like to lose, but I especially don’t like beating yourself.
would of ≠ would've
Feel free to call me crazy on this one. But I'm going to go WAY out on a limb here and predict
that Palko underwhelming is the far more likely of those two scenarios.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
You're nuts.
But I’m a careful sky-watcher, so I know the moon’ll do just what I said.
would of ≠ would've
Hey Palko
“You’re not even a has been, you’re a NEVER WAS!”
“Man, footsteps [Palko], they must really be getting desperate.”
Palko to Stanzi to First Round Draft Pick next year
Start Palko for 2 or 3 games. See what he has, then start Stanzi for the rest of the season. If they both look terrible then draft someone in the first round to replace Matt or maybe sit 1 year behind him.
by Therealmccoy89 on Nov 14, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
How is it not already apparent?
The season is lost. Even if Cassel had not been injured the season would still be lost. We are beginning a series of games in which we will be eaten for lunch. you think the Dolphins game was bad…just wait.
Call the rest of the season what it is…garbage time doesn’t matter much who we play as signal caller.
If this is true, it's the first time I've really disagreed with Haley.
Palko is terrible. We now have the worst starting QB in the NFL, and it’s not even close. If Palko plays at an even OK level, I will be stunned, even given the Pats terrible pass defense.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:02 PM CST reply actions
Who would you start instead?
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Stanzi.
Even a raw Stanzi is superior to Palko. I am very confident that Palko is completely worthless as an NFL QB. He had our first team offense in the preseason game against the Packers, and our defense was dominating their offensive scrubs, yet he still couldn’t protect a lead.
Like I said, I will be stunned if he plays at even a mediocre level.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
A "raw" Stanzi?
Is that what your years of NFL scouting classify him as.
Stanzi is a kid, with ZERO NFL experience. He would get destroyed, would not be fair to the team at this point. I realyl like him and hope he can be a QBOTF but vs NE, at their place? Considering a 3rd string guy hasn’t got ANY first team snaps ALL year. You’ve got to be kidding me.
Go with Palko, has been around a little bit, he’s tough. He’ll do ok.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Go with Palko, has been around a little bit, he’s tough. He’ll do ok.
To quote you..
Is that what your years of NFL scouting classify him as..
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
by MNchiefsfan on Nov 14, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol
My statement was fact. Palko has been on several different teams…has even been in a different country. He has experiences seeing things that Stanzi hasn’t.
Stanzi has none of this, PLUS he hasn’t taken a 1st string snap all year. So you’ve got nothing except your amateur talent evaluation to go on.
I would be willing to consider Stanzi for a start towards the end of the year when he gets reps with the first team. Until then? Get real.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
I didn't know these were facts
he’s tough. He’ll do ok.
My bad. They sounded a lot more like an opinion to me, much like the opinion you bashed since the person isn’t an NFL scout…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
He's tough
Read his scouting report, draft report and pro reports avail online. Its all in the details MN.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
If you say so
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
This may be anecdotal...but its awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwkQ_i6eetE
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
He's a better QB because he has left the country?
I agree, people are better for coming to Canada and basking in the awesomness that is us, but I don’t see how that has anything to do with anything. Unless this was all sarasm, to which I apologize.
Tebow > Cassel
by craig in calgary on Nov 14, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Ricky Williams magically extended his career that way, so it clearly works.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 14, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
The more you're around the game the more you learn
So going up and playing in a pro league is just more experience for him that Stanzi doesn’t have.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Stanzi has played more over the past four years than Palko
you can look at these things in a lot of different ways.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Palko likewise has zero real NFL experience
He’s been warming the bench, something we know Stanzi’s been doing all year.
The only thing he has on Stanzi is practice reps and more familiarity with the team.
Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!
by ChiefWarPaint on Nov 14, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not true...
Palko has been around a few years, and played in actual games. Stanzi has been around a few weeks and has never even stood on the sideline of a real NFL game. There is an experience difference here.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, thank you. Glad someone sees that.
I love people on here that have that “plug’n’play” mentality…like its Madden or something.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
At the same time, Tom Brady did it.
But his team also wasn’t the shaky mess that is the Chiefs.
But yeah, people act like it’s back yard football. “Stanzi probably has a stronger arm! He can get it to the receivers way easier while they make up their routes as they go!”
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
OK well, you know what, I have to listen on the radio more often than not. Lucky you.
Regardless, it’s not even arguable to Palko is more prepared for the start this week.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously, it IS arguable, or y'all wouldn't be arguin'!
would of ≠ would've
by hmills110 on Nov 14, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well I guess anything is..
But really, who is more prepared between the guy who has been in the league a few years and the rookie who has never dressed for a game is not arguable.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
All depends on how they're both developing and where they're at.
Brady had zilch experience and then was a starter.
The fact that Stanzi hasn’t even been dressing says he’s not really ready, in the opinion of the coaches. But the point has been made that Stanzi has probably taken more snaps in a pro-style offense than Palko, even though he’s fresh outta college.
Really not worth having a stake in either viewpoint, or rabidly defending either one, from my stupid perspective.
would of ≠ would've
The Pats have a terrible pass defense.
This is a great game to introduce Stanzi to the NFL. Besides, you can’t get experience without playing.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Pats
Their D is still better than the last D Stanzi played in a meaningful game against. And by better I mean they are in the NFL and not a college. They PROBABLY have a few more defensive looks and wrinkles than Illinois or Wisconsin.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
But by that argument we should never start Stanzi.
Of course the defense will be harder, which is why I want to see if he can still play at a high level.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously he has to get in at some point...so thats not what I'm saying.
His first game, with one week of practice with first string against a multiple front defense, at their place where their rarely lose, against a team that just blew out the Jets.
Not a good time for the rook. Let the guy who has been taking reps with the 1st team, knows more of the pro game and is just older take the beating.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
I'm a gambling addict, so let's make a bet.
The league average yards per attempt is 7.2 so far, with the second to worst team getting 5.8. So, 5.5 yards per attempt is a really bad day for a QB, and we’re playing a team that’s near the bottom in that category.
I bet that Palko won’t even make it to 5.5 yards per attempt. The loser has to put something in the sig line saying how awesome the other one is or something. Deal?
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Uhhh, I'm not betting on or for Palko.
Just saying that he is a much better choice TODAY than Stanzi. Thats all.
If they both play I’ll take a bet that says Palko has higher passer rating.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
No, wustl_chiefs_fan: Tom Brady learned a LOT as a bench-warmer.
If he’d started that rookie year, he’d’ve looked terrible. He had plenty of potential, but his grasp of the field was still intellectual and not yet instinctive. To see everything at a glance takes lots of repetitions on the practice field.
But expecting to start Stanzi this week makes a mockery of the depth chart. Stanzi is obviously not showing the staff that he’s as good or better than Palko, so why leap-frog Palko?
What little I’ve seen of Palko, he looked like a pretty good QB, with a distinctive style, and an annoying way of extending plays to let his guy uncover. But he also looked like a QB in a crap situation.
I think the situation is better, now, although I wish it were better than it is. I’m not at all sure what Palko can do with the #1s, if he takes all the snaps in practice and they tweak the offense a little for things he does better. Suspending my disbelief, I’m hoping he looks like a left-handed Rich Gannon out there.
would of ≠ would've
"raw" stanzi
Dalton for thengals has no NFL experience, but he’s doing alright. Give Stanzi a try.
We now have the worst starting QB in the NFL
So what has changed?
The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.
by saskwatch on Nov 14, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Cassel wasn't the worst starting QB.
We’ll see next week, but I think you’ll miss Cassel after watching Palko play.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
There was a fanpost about it...
…therefore it is true.
Tebow > Cassel
by craig in calgary on Nov 14, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Not a whole lot to miss, looking at the production.
And I’ll just be happy if I get to see Palko evade the pass rush and get the ball to McCluster/McClain/Battle, wide open in the flats.
would of ≠ would've
Remember Croyle?
Yeah it’s possible to miss Cassel. Although Palko appears to be at least a slight improvement over Croyle.
I firmly believe Painter is better than Palko.
And it’s not really that close.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Is Orlavsky?
Because it’s looking like Painter’s gonna get benched.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
I know nothing about Orlavsky.
But I’d still be willing to bet he’s better than Palko. I am not buying Palko at all.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's the goalie for the Washington Capitals
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Orlovsky is the guy who casually ran out of the back of the end zone
for Detroit a couple years back.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 14, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah! I remember now.
I don’t know, I still might take him over Palko.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
To me, no matter what he does the rest of his career,
Dan Orlovsky’s NFL legacy will always be attempting the first ever 111 yard touchdown pass during the Lion’s winless season a few years ago.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
by MtHammer on Nov 14, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't he the guy
that ran out of the end zone under pressure without realizing it, for a safety? Good awareness.
You know why Iowa has no professional football team? Because then Minnesota would want one, too.
by neiowakcfan on Nov 15, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
I just threw up in my mouth a little
How the %$@* does Babb know for sure who will be the QB?
That Might Pop Wide Open Rats!
by 65TossPwrTrap on Nov 14, 2011 3:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
They've introduced Palko to the press
He’s going to be starting at least ffor Monday’s game. Haley has confirmed it.
I watched Stanzi for four years in college
I want Stanzi in. I want to know why he is not a factor
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by SwimCoach on Nov 14, 2011 3:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I'm not familiar with Palko's college career.
But it couldn’t have been that good if he went undrafted.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Well the 5th round on a QB isn't much better
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be all for giving Palko a shot.
But he has already shown himself to be terrible. I’d much rather give Stanzi a shot.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I've seen nothing to think he is worse or better then Stanzi
I have seen some here claim more accuracy from stanzi, but I watched his game tape, and his accuracy was inconsistant.
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
If Stanzi is worse than Palko, he'll be a big disapointment.
Look at the preseason game against Green Bay. Palko was playing with the first string offense and defense, playing the Packers’ backups, and yet he still blew the lead.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Unless you throw a pick 6
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
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by bigbe on Nov 14, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Cassel has that runner's mentality, too, which I really like in a QB.
So did Palko ever share the field with Jonathan Baldwin @ PIT? Must’ve. I like the PA connection.
would of ≠ would've
Palko did not look good in college.
Here in Big East country Pitt is on often. And being a vicious gambler I have seen Palko many times. He wasn’t even good for the Big East, nevermind going into Foxboro.
He looked a lot better than Cassel did in college.
Although it probably helped Cassel. If he had played in college he probably wouldn’t have been drafted.
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Because he is overrated.
There is a very good reason he was a 5th Rd pick, and thats because he he was overrated.
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by nateforchiefs on Nov 14, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
I watched Stanzi for three years in college.
I somehow missed his four pass attempts as a freshman.
You know why Iowa has no professional football team? Because then Minnesota would want one, too.
by neiowakcfan on Nov 15, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Did Palko ever throw a pass to Baldwin in college?
Or did he play to far before Baldwin?
Palko started 2004-2006
Baldwin played 2008-2010
Uggg
Rather have Cassel in there.
Why the hell is Palko on the roster?
Tebow > Cassel
by craig in calgary on Nov 14, 2011 3:07 PM CST reply actions
Are there any competent back-ups on this team? Just sticking with the pattern.
"Hater" is a term used by weak-minded people in the face of legitimate criticism.
O-Line isn't deteriorating.
It just isn’t all that great.
But I think Palko might be able to do more with what they and the wideouts can give him. I also think that Palko is more likely to make the outlet pass to one of the backs, and to better advantage, when nothing’s open downfield.
The last few weeks (and couple years), I’ve seen Cassel flush right INTO trouble. He’s looked more elusive in recent weeks, but he hasn’t generated any more completions out of it.
Down the road, I’m not sure the Chiefs are going to go hard after QB or just go hard after O-Line, after 3 years of failing to field anything CLOSE to a dominant unit. Pioli can be excused, on account of to become dominant, you first must get the whole team to a level that can really profit by that dominance. I still would’ve done it differently on the broad brush strokes, but I’m not sure I’d’ve done as much total good, across the roster, as he has.
would of ≠ would've
I am not concerned
I didn’t have any belief that we would win any one of the next 4 games with Cassel at the helm. Will we win with Palko or Stanzi? Maybe not, but I get to play armchair GM and see what we have in these two. You never know.
Huzzah! Fantasy football has returned, allowing me to slap my opponents (family members) across the face with my favorite pair of white satin gloves. En garde, monkeys!
by The Gentry on Nov 14, 2011 3:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
^this
"At one point in your life you either have the thing you want or the reasons why you don't "
by chief Stevie_k on Nov 14, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. I'm starting to see Bono all over again with this guy.
And while I’m still no huge fan of what the O-Line was giving Cassel, it seems like a better QB would make MORE positive plays, despite the circumstances. I’ve seen a number of QBs around the league do more with less.
would of ≠ would've
Was Bono the one that always stared down the receiver?
Or was he the one who wouldn’t run come hell or high water? I get the Steve’s confused.
Favre?
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Nov 14, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Cassel for Tebow?
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
by Chiefs_swagger on Nov 14, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Joe Montana?
Maybe we’ll finally win another playoff game
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by 65TossPwrTrap on Nov 14, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
He said he was ready for a comeback in that shoe commercial.
So it must be true.
We Don't Hear The Hate
Maybe
Palko is the next Steve Young?
by Chiefsdodgerslakers2415 on Nov 14, 2011 3:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
swim coach,
we may usually agree, but I disagree with you here. I theorize that Palko has “it”. Tom Brady Drew Bledsoe situation. I think Palko will emerge as our future starting QB in the next few weeks. You heard it here first!
2012 is looking Awesome!
long as he is winning games
I love him
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yes I'm sure you're right
A 28 old who’s barely seen the field is going to come out and all but single handedly turn our team around… that’ll happen.
Ok let’s put the kool aid and remember
NOBODY took him in the draft… think maybe there was a reason?
You misspelled "awesome"
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I am the Master of Hyperenthetical Asiditry (you know, like this. Only more)
Finially my humor is catching on!
Go Chiefs!!!!
This means Gaither has to step in at RT right?
Cause Richardson covering the blind side of our QB is just totally not acceptable.
That depends on how badly you want to see Stanzi.
I kid. Obviously you never want anyone to get injured.
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Interesting angle on it, cheapham.
After all the inconsistency I’ve seen this season, it’s pretty clear they need to do something different. Cassel getting banged-up comes almost as a relief. I know I’m going to see something different, and putting in a southpaw blurs the line on getting Gaither into the lineup, too. So maybe the O-Line gets a chance to take another step forward.
would of ≠ would've
WOW I just read the news about Cassel!! Well Chiefs NAtion you get what you asked for!!
i like Cassel but hes not the answer, now i dont know why Stanzi wont play at all thats bullshit, we are obviosuly not going to win another game this season, y not see what hes got!!!
Apparently the organization sees Stanzi as a longer-term project and he just isn't ready.
Wonder if we’ll see a journeyman FA come in. It’d give another measure of where the team is at.
would of ≠ would've
Dear Football Jesus...
Please keep Matty out of the line up for the rest of the season…. Let Palko play…if he fails…lets see that kid Stanzi. Cut Thomas Jones ASAP.. Get the rookies on the field… faze out Casey… faze in Powe…AND WAIT FOR BERRY, TONY MO & JC
Superbowls in 2011 & 2012..I'm totally Cereal ! Chiefs win in 2012.
Tebow is no longer the worst starting QB in the league
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by 65TossPwrTrap on Nov 14, 2011 3:15 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
OH YEAH.....
GIVE JACKIE THE DAMN BALL.. MUIR YOU F’ING IDIOT!!
Superbowls in 2011 & 2012..I'm totally Cereal ! Chiefs win in 2012.
by 25 in Charge on Nov 14, 2011 3:15 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Anyone think Mallet could be targeted in the offseason?
I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.
I don't see how Babb can say this
Stanzi would be active at least on Monday over anyone we brought in, that would be my thought. One pancake sandwich on Palko and Stanzi is the man. I would like to see him at least get reps, we are slated to lose this stretch of games and if we are getting blown out he should get some game time.
by Spiderwomn69 on Nov 14, 2011 3:15 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Agreed, there's no way we only activate one QB
OR activate a guy we just signed this week over Stanzi.
Unless it’s Croyle…
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Hey guys- don't worry.....
Palko will start and I would bet before long Stanzi will be playing- Stanzi has not be active all season, there is no way he is ready to start this week, however with the way the o-line has played of late Satnzi will get his chance
I am sorry to see Cassell injured, but
I like Palko. Guy can go through some progressions. I think we may have a winner
2012 is looking Awesome!
Yes. Likely to be quicker to see and quicker to act.
Agree it sucks for Cassel, but I’m dying to see something more out of those 3 wideouts and seeing more out of everybody else, as a result. And I’m about out of excuses for Matt Cassel.
would of ≠ would've
OFFENSIVE GAMEPLAN
the next 4 games:
1st down: 2 yrd pass to McCluster or 1 yrd loss on McCluster run up the middle
2nd down: 3 yrd run up the middle w/ Battle
3rd down: incomplete pass to McCluster on a 4 yrd route
4th down: punt
repeat ad nauseum (WINNING!)
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by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
close...or this seems about right.... OFFENSIVE GAMEPLAN
1st:: Battle 6 yds up the middle
2nd: Jones off tackle 3 yd loss
3rd: 2 yd completion to breaston
4th: punt into the endzone for a 30 yard net.
Superbowls in 2011 & 2012..I'm totally Cereal ! Chiefs win in 2012.
by 25 in Charge on Nov 14, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
You imply the offense is near midfield...
4th: punt into the endzone for a 30 yard net.
must have just gotten a turnover.
You know why Iowa has no professional football team? Because then Minnesota would want one, too.
by neiowakcfan on Nov 15, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
You forgot
the 3rd down crossing pattern by Breaston that is 5-10 yards short of the marker every damn time lol
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by 65TossPwrTrap on Nov 14, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Here's my take. Place bets if you want(not really)
The next 7 games:
1st down: 5yard run by Battle
2nd down: 4 yard run by Battle
3rd down: why keep running with Battle? Draw by Mccluster for 0 yards.
4th down: punt
rinse, repeat, with occasion Jones runs for loss in there
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Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
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by NJChieffan16 on Nov 14, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. Or any time Battle gets a solid gain, go RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME FORMATION.
Run the same play. Run the other way. Or give it the hard play fake, and freeze the LBs for your standard Palko “leaping dink pass” over the LBs and in front of the safeties.
Albert and Richardson are both pretty good at peeling the outside pass rusher out and opening up that B gap. And you hit on one of those, and from then on, the DE starts tending to pinch down, which puts the kibosh on their outside speed move and sets them up to be beaten to the outside, when the tackle switches tactics and blocks down.
Blah blah blah. I don’t know the first thing about playcalling, but it never seems as if KC knows how to follow up on their GOOD plays. Don’t know how to keep the D guessing.
would of ≠ would've
Safety & OT, DT pleeeease
we need to get stronger in the trenches and add depth at both safety positions…. NOW
Superbowls in 2011 & 2012..I'm totally Cereal ! Chiefs win in 2012.
His contract was front loaded
as with all NFL contracts they can release them at anytime, just depends on the Guarentee money how much you lose.
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
IIRC, his first 3 years were cash-laden, last 3 based on performance. So we won’t have a huge cap hit if he gets cut.
Yup. He only stays if they really want him to stay.
I think he leads well with his actions, for the most part, but he doesn’t seem to have much chemistry with his teammates. Almost a little bit awkward.
would of ≠ would've
Socially awkward or physically?
Or both?
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
Socially awkward Matt Cassel?
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
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by MtHammer on Nov 14, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
So Haley is stuck with
Thomas Jones and Palko at 2 of the most positions on the field. That’s on the GM. Bad Bad GMing.
Haley doesn't...
have to play Jones- had to play Cassel though
by Family Chief on Nov 14, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Battle only .....
had 9 carries on Sunday, he could have easily take Jones 4 carries- this gets back to who is calling the plays and sending Jones in- Pioli is not
by Family Chief on Nov 14, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
I am not sure what you are arguing here
but my point is the talent isn’t there. It’s great the battle has beat out Jones ( I guess) but neither of them would see PT with most other teams.
My point....
is that Jones should not be playing at all so it is Haley’s option there- Palko is his only option- so I agree with you on half your statement- while Pioli is not doing his Job-Haley chooses to play Jones when he could bury him like he did Battle the last few years
by Family Chief on Nov 14, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
what are you talkng about?
Jones is only averaging 5 carries the last 4 games
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Huey.
Guy makes me laugh. He was a serviceeable back up but he gave up during a game when Herm had Mcintosh protecting him. You could tell he was throwing it away every pass. Guy got tired of getting hit.
2012 is looking Awesome!
I never thought I would see another QB throw a better 2 yard pass than Damon Huard.
Then we signed Matt Cassel.
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Easy on those NE backups, Saskwatch.
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by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
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by Tomahawk29 on Nov 14, 2011 3:26 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
Thankfully this game is on the road.
If we’re going to give Palko a shot, we need to give him a fair shot without the crowd chanting at him.
However, I fully expect him to do terrible and if he then gets the start against the Steelers, I will be in full support of the chanting.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
I do, just saying.
I’m not a huge fan of chanting against the starting QB unless they really deserve it.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
I would, but I have school.
If I was in KC I’d go to the Steelers game just so I could bring a giant sign with some pro-Stanzi message on it.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Nov 14, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
It hasn't interested me that much...
but if they have a point they have a point… I won’t ever say protests are a bad thing.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
The way I look at it, they're basically eating my money, paying police overtime, becoming a sanitation problem,
and so on. This is just not a good economic time to be sucking even more resources out of local budgets that are already stretched beyond the breaking point. Just seems like a lot of selfishness, to me. I’m thinking of the accident victims who die, because cops and paramedics are indulging a handful of ’60s wannabes. Find some other way to sell your beliefs.
would of ≠ would've
Occupy Denver is putting a dent in the city budget that they really can't afford.
would of ≠ would've
Yeah good way to look at it.
Like I said I haven’t paid much attention, but I don’t have much to say about it either way. I work for my money and live within my means. I’ve never been one to ask for a handout, but I’m lucky to have a job and I wish everyone could.
It just depends on the individual. I can’t damn the entire cause. If it’s laziness it’s not excusable, but greed isn’t OK either, and I’m sure plenty of these people are genuinely trying.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 15, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
So are the Chiefs going to bring in an emergency third stringer?
Todd Bouman? JaMarcus Russell?
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 14, 2011 3:30 PM CST reply actions
I noticed no font around Todd Bouman...
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Nov 14, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
He's serviceable for an absolute emergency.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 14, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Quinn Gray.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Man I almost forgot about that guy...
I always thought he might turn up somewhere.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Jonathan Quinn?
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 14, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Well we do have chicken shit right now
Anyone up for some chicken salad?
by His Royal Greatness on Nov 14, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…STANZI…
Stanzi out played Falco in preseason!!!
by Ricky Stanzi's Ex-Girlfreind on Nov 14, 2011 3:33 PM CST reply actions
isn't Palko a lefty?
So that means Richardson is going to be protecting his blind side.
Run D is the key this year.
by cwebb44 on Nov 14, 2011 3:37 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
lol exactly
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Nov 14, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
with Haley
Making the comment that Gaithersburg can play both left & right tackle I don’t see why we wouldn’t put him at right. Just my thoughts.
by Spiderwomn69 on Nov 14, 2011 4:26 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
HAHA...Gaithersburg....
good one iPhone…you got me again!
by Spiderwomn69 on Nov 15, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Guarantee
Palko comes in and puts up decent numbers.. seriously
The following Wed Cassel goes on IR.. Chiefs win one of these next 5 games w/ Palko
I heard that somewhere once.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
I'm reminded of when Thigpen went in for the rest of the season.
Oh, we didn’t beat anybody other than the Raiders. But it was fun to watch.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 14, 2011 3:39 PM CST reply actions
Neither Palco or Stanz are legitimate NFL starters
AP has been brain washed to think Stanzi is the next Tom Brady.It is really sad that we are counting on long shot 5th rounders,to save this franchise at QB
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 3:43 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
I don't know they are
the odds are pretty slim on that. But you don’t know, until they play
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody's counting on anything.
But the truth is, nobody knows what Stanzi is or will be. There are a lot more quality NFL starters to have come out of the later rounds than just Tom Brady. Hell, Matt Cassel was a 7th rounder. Tony Romo went undrafted. John Skelton was a 5th rounder (who got some playing time for the Cards last year as a rookie) and is looking like he might steal the starting job away from Kevin Kolb. And those are just the examples of quarterbacks who have started for teams this year.
If Palko plays abysmally and/or (God forbid) gets hurt . We should take a look at what Stanzi can do. Not because he’s a sure thing, but because he’s worth a look.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Romo and Brady
That is it as far as LEGITIMATE QB’s taken in the 5th round or later.
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
Also Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Matt Hasselbeck.
Just in recent memory.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
what did Bulger and Ftzpatrick do?
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Fitzpatrick, despite having a down couple of games recently, has been a top 10 quarterback this year.
And it’s easy to forget how just good Bulger was for a while. He’s a two time pro-bowler who posted 3 straight seasons with a 90+ passer rating. Eventually injuries and poor offensive line play took their toll on him, and I’m not arguing that he’s a future hall of famer or anything, but he was also a legit QB.
Look, no one is arguing with the fact that it’s statistically easier to find franchise quarterbacks early in the draft. But that doesn’t mean that they’re found exclusively there. And Romo and Brady certainly aren’t the only two legitimate starters to have emerged from the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds or as an UDFA.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
Yeah Bulger was one of the top QBs in the league for a little while.
Super accurate.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
2 years maybe
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Bulger beat out Kurt Warner, straight up, on a team with a deteriorating O-Line.
That’s why I’m a “Build it and they will come” guy, when it comes to stocking-up on OL and WR. Amazing how many QBs can succeed and how easy they are to find, when you have a good team.
would of ≠ would've
do you see how worked up people are over Stanzi
it’s rediculous
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
No, most folks are saying "just play the kid." When they say that to you, you hear/respond as though they said "STANZI OMG 4EVA"
I’ve watched you do it all weekend long.
I have not seen one single person have this conversation with you, where you haven’t assumed—yes assumed—that by having the discussion with you, at all, they must be begging for Stanzi like coeds inheat.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
umm read these comments and then get back to me ok
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
Do you know how many time I have read on here that he is the next Tom Brady
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Don't let 1 Stanzi...Stanzi...Stanzi chant lead you to believe we're all that extreme.
would of ≠ would've
I say play the kid to
I just look at recent history and see 5,6,7th round QB’s fail and say that is probably his future.But play him,I mean what’s the worst that can happen?
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
He was really exciting to watch in college, though.
And he showed a lot of improvement each year, particularly as a senior. He’s smart, he works hard, and he can make the throws. He is a leader.
What’s not to like?
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you too, Bama. That's why (when Calabaloo fizzles) we'll see the Stanzi show.
He could be something really great…could be an above-avg future backup, like Bruce Gradkowski or Shaun Hill…or just another mid-rounder who fizzled (James Killian, Charlie Frye).
Should be a good show, right?
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
Stanzi salutes you, sir.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree with you. And I'm a Hawk fan, to boot.
His bust likelihood? High. But he’s a fifth-rounder.
His success likelihood? Low. But he’s a fifth-rounder.
Palko will start, and Palko will probably fizz out…and after about two to four games of that noise, we’ll see Stanz come in and we’ll know, one way or the other.
Or hell, we could all be wrong and Palko turns into the Slavic Ryan Fitzpatrick….but I think I have a better shot at winning the Powerball Lotto, personally.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
Well, if Cassel IS a weak link, this will be a good way to find out.
I think there’s a chance that Palko/Stanzi will bring something that’s just not in Cassel’s makeup. A chance that it’s something pretty good. Better than Powerball odds, but maybe less than 50-50.
would of ≠ would've
No...people will say "You never know. Brady was the 199th pick." And then you react as though they said, "NO way, he's #!!"
And it isn’t what they’ve said at all. I know—you did it to me, about a week ago.
Lo and behold we find that tonight, you and I agree on this issue: Play him if it comes to it, see who we have in the kid, and if he’s no good, cut bait.
That’s all I’m saying here. No one really thinks he’s another Brady….or another Charlie Frye…but he could be. He could be either of ’em.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
I want the chiefs to play him and see what he really is so we can move on
I don’t want this as another distraction looming in the off season.As much as I doubt him,I do think he has a higher upside than Palco.And who knows,maybe if we get a 1st round QB and he has to miss a couple games Stanzi plays good a we can trade him for a high pick later(i.e like Kevin Kolb)
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Well Fitzpatrick just earned himself a six year contract extension..
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
how has he played lately
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
I know you think you're a QB expert because the Saints have Drew Brees...
But I just really don’t think you are. Sorry bro.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
we'll see who's wrong and who's right soon enough
I don’t like your odds
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
ok ok i'm 95% sure
is that better?
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 3:45 PM CST reply actions
Brady and Warner out of how many late round/ufa guys?
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hasselback, Fitzpatrick and Brady
QB’s taken in the first round have
around a 67% success rate.. Success being that they are ok starting, not probowl
it falls to 50% for the second
and around 40 % for the 3rd round.
Out side of those rounds, the success goes to 15% and down
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yay!
We get the 4th place schedule next year!
WE let the dogs out. Emphasis on 'WE'
by KC_Chong on Nov 14, 2011 3:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
chiefs have played the easiest schedule in NFL
this season
easiest schedule
What year are you looking at, 5 playoff teams in a row coming up. They’all just lay down and lose when the Chiefs come to town. SChedule is by no means easy.
4th place schedule next year
If we keep last place would be: San Diego(2), Oakland(2), Denver(2), Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincy, Baltimore, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tamba Bay, Carolina, and probably Miami and Indy.
by Chiefsdodgerslakers2415 on Nov 14, 2011 4:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I do know, whoever starts, probably won’t lay down for a Sack on 4th down though.
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
We've been through this before with Green/Huard/Thigpen
The pressure will inevitably mount high enough where they will eventually put Stanzi out there. Palko is not going to be effective.
Agree
Atleast with Palko and Stanzi they can make the play last a couple seconds longer, which could make a difference in the end.
I don`t care who starts, as long as the name Cassel isn`t on their jersey.
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Thowing Stanzi to the wolves
Isn’t finding out if facing severe adversity exactly the kind of thing we want to find out about the kid? If the Chiefs think he can eventually lead a team to the SuperBowl, they should let him play now. If failure this year breaks the kid he wasn’t our guy anyway.
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
by KC_Satchmo on Nov 14, 2011 3:51 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Satchmo! Good to see you!
I need to reply to your last email, by the way.
I dunno…I’m with you, but I still feel like throwing him in next week is a little much. He’s been a part of the meetings and the preparation for each game, but he has even less experience throwing to the #1’s than Palko does.
I say, start with Palko…and keep Stanzi’s arm loose just in case. Unless Palko turns into the Polish Rifle, we’ll probably be seeing Stanzi on the field soon enough.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
I miss Cassel already.
Tebow > Cassel
by craig in calgary on Nov 14, 2011 3:51 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Just when everyone finally agreed that he sucks
we have to start all over again with Stanzi/Palko.
Grab a pitchfork and have a glass of strawberry drink.
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
Yeah,...Picking apart his play was easy...Just take one from each column & season it with inconsistancy, a dash of missed oppotunities & roll it in dashed hopes...
Bake @ 350 degrees until you can stick a fork in him…Cuz He’s Done…
I'm sure you do.
"Sweet, Chiefs just traded for Matt Cassel! This is the move that is gonna make us perpetual SB favourites!!!!" – March 1, 2009, craig in calgary
Yes.
Cut and pasted. Just ask Craig.
"Sweet, Chiefs just traded for Matt Cassel! This is the move that is gonna make us perpetual SB favourites!!!!" – March 1, 2009, craig in calgary
Well it's pretty lame to hold someone to something they said over two years ago in a moment of excitement for the entire fanbase after a 2-14 season including possibly the worst QB play Chiefs fans have ever seen.
LOL.
I guess it’s kind of funny, though.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
There's more to that quote than meets the eye. :)
"Sweet, Chiefs just traded for Matt Cassel! This is the move that is gonna make us perpetual SB favourites!!!!" – March 1, 2009, craig in calgary
Ha alright then, I wouldn't know.
I wasn’t commenting at that time or hardly even reading comments, just skimming for news and such.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
He posted that quote sarcastically the other day.
With the date and everything. :)
I’ve only been on here for a little over a year.
"Sweet, Chiefs just traded for Matt Cassel! This is the move that is gonna make us perpetual SB favourites!!!!" – March 1, 2009, craig in calgary
Oh yeah look at that I've been here longer haha.
You learn shit every day.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but if you know craig in calgary, you'd kind of have to hear the sarcasm in that quote.
would of ≠ would've
Well a year before I was a member, right after the trade
I have no idea how this guy from another country who I’ve never met felt.
So I took it literally.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Our Defense can't stop the run or the pass
The Offense isn’t going to have the ball much.
Well, it can't hurt to get a real QB in there that can move the offense, score points and maybe let the defense play with the lead for a change
Maybe even record a sack or 2
Hell yeah.
Let’s get a real QB in there and maybe then the defense will get a sack or two.
I love AP.
Oh yeah we will
I would be willing to bet most of Brady’s scoring drives won’t take them an awful long time to get down the field if the defense can’t take better angles than they did this past week.
WE let the dogs out. Emphasis on 'WE'
by KC_Chong on Nov 14, 2011 3:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes the likely hood that we play with a lead
would mean we got the ball first, and scored.. otherwise this could easily be a plow out.
by Bigcherokeechief on Nov 14, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
KC came out jamming San Diego, and eventually adjusted out of that, into their more normal "2-Deep Pussy" defense,
to let Rivers back into the game.
I don’t think KC has the resolve or, in some cases, the quickness, to re-direct the Patriots wideouts, so people will be where Brady expects them to be, and the downfield coverage won’t be tight enough to deny the completion. KC’s best shot is to slow ’em up at the line.
But what we’re most likely to see is a soft umbrella zone designed to hold Brady to 3-point tries, laying back and hoping for a pick off the errant pass.
would of ≠ would've
Upon further deliberation
I am also a Stanzi fan. For some unidentified intangible, i think he possesses all necessary qualities to transition to a starting NFL qb. However, upon further deliberation and research, i think it would be only fair to give Tyler Palko a chance in a meaningful game. From various sources and reports, he knows the playbook, practices hard and is willing to be coached. As to his playing styly, he is not afraid to take a shot while making a throw. This coaching on numerous occassion has reiterated that consistent practice habits and film study gives a player a shot to make a contribution to this team. With all that being said, it would run afoul coach’s philosophy to skip Palko and start Stanzi. Here is his scouting report btw: http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/nfl_draft_prospect/us/579?id=579
I respectfully disagree that Palko is willing to take a hit to make a throw. I’ve seen him throw off his back foot a lot rather than stepping up into the pocket to make a pass and take a hit this preseason. Everything else I agree with, give Palko a chance, when he sucks it up, trot Stanzi out there.
WE let the dogs out. Emphasis on 'WE'
by KC_Chong on Nov 14, 2011 4:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So basically it's...
A.) Start Stanzi, who has loads of undeveloped potential, but more than enough talent to keep Arrowhead’s super bowl hopes alive.
B.) Start Palko, who has the ability to make something out of nothing. Since Michael Vick tries unwaveringly to imitate Palko’s style of play, Palko possesses the “run-for-your-life” capabilities currently required of a Chiefs quarterback.
C.) Javier shreds with the WildCat!
Hint: When deciding, go with the least inaccurate/impossible choice.
You say, "You had sex." I say, "I did sex." Sex is fun... no need to act all possessive about it.
Be careful what you wish for
Those who have clamored for Cassel to be replaced will now see why that was foolish. I went through each team, and I really don’t see a worse backup QB than Tyler Palko. I spent an ungodly amount on Chiefs-Pats tickets and it’s going to be a joke. I hope they win obviously, but I hope there will be some iota of appreciation when this is done for how much better Cassel is than what else we have.
Palko wasn’t even above average at PITT.. As in the university. This sucks.
And everyone wants to see the young buck Stanzi, but the team isn’t going to do it, so let’s just face the beatdown that will ensue.
And now with Moeaki, Berry, Siler, JC, and now Cassel down, you pretty much have to say Haley is getting another year. Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry incarnate could not win at this point.
I totally agree that Palko isn`t a NFL calibre QB.
But I think he does as good as Cassel, and that hopefully says all it needs to about the QB situation in KC.
The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.
I disagree,Hayley is done
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
I know it might look like that
but it would set a bad precedent around here to fire a coach who was dealt this hand.. too early to tell though. if these guys put up a fight for the next 7 weeks it would be tough to dismiss him because of the record. Not many coaches are going to come work in an environment like that.
despite what Pioli says
I think there is a rift between them.If he gets fired,he will only be owed that 1 year salary.What a better time to fire him
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen too many gametime problems that go straight to coaching to believe in Haley as much as I used to.
I think he sticks for another year, at least, though. But after 3 years, I expected a smarter team, from the way he talked.
would of ≠ would've
He can get 22 guys off the street and win 2 games
Ya,but he can’t get them to win much more than that
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
I don't care how bad either plays.
I know Cassel is probably better than them, but istill don’t want Cassel. At leas tthis way we can see what we need to do, instead of settling for below ave. Cassel
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
Stanzi should paint up his helmet like a Hockey Goalie would !!!...
Now what should it be ?…WWII General’s Helmet ?…Captain America ?…
He should paint it to look like
an exact replica of Aaron Rodgers head
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
I don't know who else follows Kent Babb on twitter.
But he said and I quote…“Ricky Stanzi is not a canidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.”
It would be nice if Babb would justify this statement with observations. Is Stanzi hurt? Or what’s the deal? Would like further explanation.
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 14, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions
he isn't an nfl caliber starter thats why
In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti
by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 14, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
And you know that how...?
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 14, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Either is Cassel, but lokk at how many he started
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
by dbakerku on Nov 14, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
2 massive & unavoidable problems I see moving forward-
1) Complete college style offenses are not supposed to have any chance of working in the NFL; maybe for one drive or one quarter for pure shock / surprise factor. Yet, Romeo & his D allowed a poor team to run a pure college offense four consecutive quarters.
2) The reports that Stanzi cannot factor in this season. Our pass protection went from suspect to absolutely terrible- so what is the solution when the incredible defenses we are preparing to face in this upcoming stretch; turn Palko into a Pretzelo ?
Now that was a bad start.... Big finish ????
by Lucky777Luciano on Nov 14, 2011 4:10 PM CST reply actions
Denver's success was pretty hard to watch.
Seems like they finally started squashing them after Houston replaced Studebaker.
But considering the KC offense couldn’t do anything, holding Denver to 17 points wasn’t AWFUL. I just can’t believe how much respect KC showed to the pass and how TERRIBLY they defended the pass when it counted.
would of ≠ would've
This could end the Matt Cassel era in Kansas City.
And for all of us who know a lot about football (95% of us), this is a good thing.
I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.
by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 14, 2011 4:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'll second that amen...
and I’m an agnostic.
So you just don't know whether you believe in Cassel or not?
Huzzah! Fantasy football has returned, allowing me to slap my opponents (family members) across the face with my favorite pair of white satin gloves. En garde, monkeys!
I'm looking forward...
to either Palko or Stanzi. I think both of them have more upside than Cassel. I hope they’re getting a 60-40 split in reps in case Palko can’t handle it or gets injured. Pats pass D is pretty bad this year. With our three WRs, there’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to spread the field and light up most defenses (except for a subpar OL). I’m really looking forward to this, actually.
I know I'm not the only person who saw the game on Sunday but....
What if there had been another 5 minutes in the game rather than 1:43? Palko came out and lit it up….decisive…stepping up…making it happen and all of a sudden the team was alive and had grit and couldn’t be stopped. Unlike Cassel’s Eeyore-esque demeanore, Palko took command, and had he had more time, I would have loved to have seen what he could have done. Matter of fact, had the onside kick gone the other way, it was quite possible he could have tied it up had we recovered it. Its a game of proverbial “what if’s” but….just sayin Palko came out ready to make something happen, and I think he did more in 1:43 minutes than Cassel had done in the past 3 games combined.
Hope Palko can play cornhole
Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 14, 2011 4:15 PM CST reply actions
I didn't even Know he went to Penn State...( Too Soon ?)...
by KCChef on Nov 14, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Too Soon ? not at all. LOL
I don't have a catchy, catch phrase.
So this means we have a roster spot for Powe?!?!
Oh and I won’t stop!!
STANZI STANZI STANZI STANZISTANZI STANZISTANZI STANZISTANZI STANZI
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
- Ricky Stanzi to the rescue!
by Mas Cervezas on Nov 14, 2011 4:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This Palko guy looks like the real deal.
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by saskwatch on Nov 14, 2011 4:18 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Yep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwkQ_i6eetE
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Palko got cut by the Sacramento Mountain Lion when they were known as the California Redwoods
And he played in Canada…
This oughta be interesting.
Veteran qb
If Kent Babb is correct that the Chiefs are not planning to involve Stanzi in any capacity, then the Chiefs need to sign a veteran qb still available. Welcome back, Mr. and Mrs. Croyle! :D
croyle is done.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
wouldnt mind Garrard.
Predictions:
Chiefs will have a top 5 pass defense next season!!!
Tamba will lead the league in sacks.
Jamal Charles will lead the league in Rushing yards and YPC (again)
Back problems
If i am not mistaken, he has back problems and that’s why no one has signed him as of yet. Plus, it will take some time to learn offense (ala Palmer)
oh thats right, forgot about that.
Predictions:
Chiefs will have a top 5 pass defense next season!!!
Tamba will lead the league in sacks.
Jamal Charles will lead the league in Rushing yards and YPC (again)
we will trade you mcgee
for a first round pick in 2012, 13, and 14.
by centralkscowboysfan on Nov 14, 2011 4:25 PM CST reply actions
Nope. But thanks.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 14, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
1 down & a McGraw to go
Tough times never last, but tough people do.
by MadMartigan816 on Nov 14, 2011 4:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd say jones to go
BUT wishing harm is evil
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
- Ricky Stanzi to the rescue!
by Mas Cervezas on Nov 14, 2011 5:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
interesting
I wonder if the coaching staff is that sick of Cassel that this “injury” is fake, so it doesnt ruin his trade possibilities. n e ways i hope Stanzi or Palko work out. kinda want atleast a .500 season.
Predictions:
Chiefs will have a top 5 pass defense next season!!!
Tamba will lead the league in sacks.
Jamal Charles will lead the league in Rushing yards and YPC (again)
but....who would be your back up to stanzi
if palko got hurt?
by centralkscowboysfan on Nov 14, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
For one game, sure. But there's no way we wouldn't sign somebody else to back up Stanzi the next week.
Knowing Haley and Pioli, that would likely be somebody the Chiefs are already familiar with. What are Matt Gutierrez or Bill Stull up to?
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
I would hope not, but you're probably totally right.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
No doubt. Knows the system and is available.
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Hell yeah. Just cut out the middle man and punt every play.
That’ll streamline things.
by Tomahawk29 on Nov 14, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I get the feeling that Haley is praying Palko works out...
All along, I’ve gotten the feeling that Haley was saddled with Cassel, I’m curious to see how the playbook opens up with a QB who can read a defense (not saying he’s good, but the fact he can make a read is a step in the right direction)
Side Question: Denver blitzed all day long, and we don’t run our first screen pass until Cassel is out of the game…is this A) Cassel cannot be trusted to run a screen pass? B) No one told Bill Muir that a screen pass can help hold back a blitz happy team until three minutes left in the game? C) Haley called that play D) All of the above
Great point
Never thought I’d be yelling at the TV for the Chiefs to run a screen…or a draw for that matter. Lol.
Usually its the other way around.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Just found this, pretty interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwkQ_i6eetE
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
I'd still prefer Thiggy 1.0.
I just feel like Palko lacks a certain je ne sais quoi that Thigbone had.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
I'm not sure what that has to do with being a good QB...
by Tomahawk29 on Nov 14, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Nothing. But it has everything to do with who is the more entertaining QB.
And now, as per the unwritten rules of AP, I will rec that picture.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
a southpaw hmmmm
The value of life can be measured by how many times your soul has been deeply stirred!
by wwJamaalCharlesdo on Nov 14, 2011 4:46 PM CST reply actions
Wrangler Time
Looks like its the time to arrange a trip to Mississippi if Mr. Hunt lends his private jet.
dam i wish Baldwins catch counted.,,
no one will count it as a top catch because it “didnt count” Bull Sheet.
Lets trade for Desean Jackson. He's losing the locker room
Imagine our O with a better QB and those 4 WRs with Charles and Mo back. Then just draft O and D linemen this year
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
that would be to nice
But does he have New England Ties ..
Last name is Jackson
Which rhymes with New England. There you go
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Nov 14, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
would have to be the offseason, past the trade deadline
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Yes thats what I meant. We should do it.
Then draft the interior lines
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Nov 14, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
would be an interesting approach
I do hope the draft is heavily focused on interior line
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I bet Hunt still raises Season Ticket prices
Prediction: I bet parking goes up to $35 bucks a car and season ticket prices raise by 15%. The ads will play highlights of all the players we have coming off of injury. Without mentioning how every backup on the team shouldn’t even make a practice squad.
Matt Schaub is also out for the year.
Dam. But Espn doesnt talk about Cassel !
Fuck.
I’m not sure I’ll be able to field a viable starter in fantasy now.
"[Jamaal Charles] probably fights crime in his spare time while inhaling carbon emissions, exhaling oxygen, and crapping oil. That’s how awesome he is. Not just good for the Chiefs, but America."
- MNchiefsfan
IMO, this shouldnt last long. maybe 2 games, then we get stanzi
Im hoping its sooner
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Monday night
half time maybe . But all honestly. Id rather Palko just be Awesome ! not going to happen tho.
I agree, I LOVE the idea of a left handed QB as our QBOTF in KC
I just dont think its remotely possible.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
personally I dont see how you could want anyone other than stanzi before long. Palko wont work out, lets be realistic
so hopefully we see stanzi now instead of going into the draft with no clue in what we have
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Yep
I don’t know why Babb is acting like he’s Pioli and is so certain Stanzi wont factor into the rest of the year.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Nov 14, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Totally agree. I dont get it, he shuts the door on discussion
we have a mnf game, and a sunday night game, nationally televised…if palko falls, and falls hard, how is there not a scenario where stanzi plays? I find it to be incredily silly to write off the entire season as stanzi free. agree completely
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I can see him not playing for a few weeks at least.
But now the kid should be getting real practice reps and will be preparing for the game, even as a backup, so who knows what might catch the coaching staffs eye in practice.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Nov 14, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
right
and say there is a blowout. stanzi can now come in and get some real reps….not saying in the next 2 weeks, but at some point I would think
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Exactly.
NE and Pitt with Palko? I’ll go out on a limb and say there might be some garbage time for reps and not because we’ll be winning by 4+ scores.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Nov 14, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
My father says he thinks Palko could be the best QB in the league
However, my father is chemically unbalanced
Huzzah! Fantasy football has returned, allowing me to slap my opponents (family members) across the face with my favorite pair of white satin gloves. En garde, monkeys!
He could be right.
Or maybe he could be the worst QB to ever play.
Or maybe he could be pretty good.
Or maybe he could be be just average.
I am beginning to realize many people have never seen Palko play
Put it this way, if we recovered that onside kick, the Hail Mary wouldn’t have reached.
Tebow is a better passer than Palko.. It is that bad. I am Captain Optimism and have been all season. But Palko is horrible. God freaking horrible.
Yeah I'm pretty skeptical about his arm strength..
But in the limited snaps I’ve seen him play he seems to process and make decisions quicker. If we run a short passing game I think he could maybe get something going.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
you don't think we already run a short passing attack? there would be no need to change the offense game plan...
And the hair is lucious! lol
Yeah I'm just saying
I don’t know if he has the capability to go deep.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
Anything over-the-top would be Joe Montana over-the-top.
3 steps and fire. 20-to-30 yards in the air, tops. And it’d have to be set up by the short-to-intermediate game, first.
Personally, I think KC has at least two very good pass-catching running backs in McClain and McCluster. And I think Palko has the potential to get a lot more out of that part of the passing game than Cassel, who needs to be looking for it before the snap in order to really make it happen – One or two successful progression reads no longer convinces me he’s more than book-smart, when it comes to seeing the soft spot in the D in the NOW.
would of ≠ would've
I was just saying how some will have to eat their words about Palko
I believe our current playcalling routes best suites Palko’s abilities…I don’t need to see a pass over 30 yards to be impressed given our performance.
I like the quickness of both our backups.
Palko’s a little on the short side. Look for lots of jump-passes and unorthodox-looking throws. The surrounding team, right NOW, just might have the horses to complement what he brings. It should be exciting (and likely a little frustrating) to watch him bouncing around in the backfield.
What I’d really like to see is some CHEMISTRY develop between him and his running backs. I think that planned passes to those guys are less important than the improvisations, when pressuring the QB takes the defense out of position and a guy like Dex can go on a tear. But you have to keep the play alive and have some sense on where everybody is. I’ve about given up on Cassel in that regard. It’s a vision/mental thing that no amount of training can overcome.
would of ≠ would've
I think if they stack the box, we're freaking screwed. I see turnovers...many many turnovers
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Gotta disagree...
Palko has looked “very” servicable in muliple preseason games and limited regular season action. Both Palko and Stanzi looked better than Cassel in preason. Hell his play forced, Flacco to transfer…
Sweet. New Englands defense is available in my FF league.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
nostalgia
This reminds me when Cassel got injured last year and Croyle had to fill in. We all know how that turned out; a blowout loss to the chargers. I know palko isn’t croyle but isn’t reasonable to expect the same thing against the f’ing patriots? It really is stressful being a chiefs fan…
Cabs are here!!
I think after Tebow just beat us
only completing 2 out of 8 Jesus Bolts for 69 yards, facing Murderer’s Row for the next 5 weeks, I’ve gotten over that stressed out hump and started to settle into my phase where I can just love and enjoy the Chiefs without having to worry about hoping for them accomplishing something too meaningful.
by bamachief5558 on Nov 14, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Oddly I believe Palko will take us out of the darkness...
What’s the worst that can happen, we don’t score? I think we’ve become accustom to that…
Yeah so i just realized....Jovan Belcher weighs 228 lbs....
Thats 20 pounds less than Derrick Johnson and he is only half as fast. How isn’t this guy an absolute monster in pass defense? How is this guy always so slow to the football? I We’ve gotta get rid of him.
Start Stanzi now! There is no down side to seeing what this kid can do.
by Thomas Leger Jr on Nov 14, 2011 8:17 PM CST reply actions
It must be raining meth in Kansas City.
My whole Chiefs world has been destroyed. All the Cassel criers get their wish. Bummed.
we just scored 3 against miami and ten against denver. we blow. let’s just accept it. it’s palko’s turn to blow. you can’t possibly be disappointed by him. maybe everyone plays like a pro for sixty minutes and palko scrambles for a few drive sustainers and fires the ball like it’s hand grenade and we at least get some more watchable football than we have been getting. odds are if you’re calling for stanzi you will see him pressed into action as they collect tyler’s bodyparts off the field.
the only other option is someone semi retired whom no one wanted anyway so far all year. so please… be nice. let tyler have his shot. if you really need to run your mouth…. pray. if one of these kids isn’t an answer….. we gots us a long dry spell buckaroos.
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