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Broncos Beat Chiefs And 18 Things To Remember From The Game

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Yeah, this is a bad feeling. Like really bad. The Kansas City Chiefs had a stretch of two games -- Miami Dolphins and Denver Broncos, both at home -- and they lost them both. Tim Tebow's Broncos took care of business against the Chiefs, 17-10, moving KC to 4-5 and in a tie with Denver for second place in the AFC West.

A lot of things happened during the game -- some memorable, some not so memorable. Here are 18 things to remember from the game:

Good way to start the game. A stealth bomber flew over Arrowhead Stadium after the National Anthem. You can see it coming in the distance and it zips right over you. I've been seeing flyovers at Arrowhead for 20 years and it never gets old.

Mistake filled first drive for KC. Jackie Battle up the middle for five yards, Thomas Jones loses four yards and Matt CAssel goes up the middle for nine yards gaining the first down. And then the mistakes started coming. Cassel hit Dwayne Bowe for a first down but it was called back on a holding call on Brandon Albert. They lined up again and it was a false start on Casey Wiegmann before the play started. By that point, it was first and 25 and the Chiefs didn't have much of a shot. The total on that drive -- nine plays, zero yards.

Chiefs touchdown-less streak continues. Via Soren Petro after the first drive: "Chiefs have now gone 103 straight offensive snaps w/out a TD. That is the longest active streak in the NFL!"

Star-divide

Broncos go all run on the first drive. Eight plays, eight rushes, 57 yards and a touchdown. Highlights of the drive include Knowshon Moreno hopping over Brandon Flowers en route to a 24-yard run, Willie McGahee going down with an injury and then Tebow bullying his way through the middle of the Chiefs defense for a touchdown.

Chiefs honor Veterans with this sign:
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Knowshon Moreno owns the Chiefs. Moreno has two career 100-yard rushing games and both came against the Chiefs. Moreno also has two career two-touchdown games and both came against the Chiefs. 

Both Broncos running backs injured in the first quarter. It's a hamstring for Willie McGahee and a knee for Knowshon Moreno. The Broncos say McGahee's return is questionable and Moreno's is doubtful.

Broncos don't throw a pass in the first quarter: The Broncos ran 14 plays in the first quarter -- all rushes. Their first pass came on the first play of the second quarter.

Jonathan Baldwin might have had the best catch I've ever seen (but it didn't count). Seriously, one of the best ever. Cassel went deep to him and the Broncos defender was right on top of Baldwin, who turned around and with his hands behind the defender, he pulled in the ball and lodged it against the defender's back. Baldwin turned over and held onto the ball. But....it was all called back due to offsetting penalties.


Broncos have no passing yards in the first half. In fact, they haven't completed a pass since about nine and a half minutes left in the third quarter of last week's game. And they lead by 10 points.

Chiefs first half offense was miserable. 18 yards passing for Cassel and he's also the leading rusher with 16 yards. Punt, punt, punt....you get the idea. KC's offense did nothing in the first half.

Longest rush of the season for the Chiefs. Jackie Battle ripped off a 34-yard run for the Chiefs putting them in Broncos territory and that run is the longest on the season for KC. (Miss you, Jamaal Charles.) We're just under 11 minutes in the third quarter and the Chiefs are threatening for the first time all game. 

Paper airplane all over the place. Someone from the upper level had a big paper airplane they made and threw it off the top. It cruised back and forth, left and right, through the air before finally flying right into a few of the players on the sideline. Incredible path for that paper airplane. Lots of fans are throwing paper airplanes made out of the cards they used to make the "Thank You Veterans" card.

Once again, Chiefs go from lifeless to signs of life. The first half often hasn't been kind to the Chiefs this year and that's been the case today However, as they have before (like the first San Diego game), KC's offense starts to show up in the second half. The Chiefs offense went 67 yards on eight plays to open the second half and get seven points. Here's the touchdown:

Tebow's second completed pass is a big one. His first one was a simple pass into the flat midway through the third quarter and his second one was a 56-yard strike to Eric Decker. That came on third and long, too. What a killer.

4th and five just about ends it for KC. Cassel dropped back to pass in an effort to convert on fourth down and was hit as threw, and the ball fluttered incomplete. Cassel was under pressure today and even when he had time there was never a sense that he and the Chiefs offense were going to march down the field. 

Down goes Dorsey. Glenn Dorsey was injured the in the fourth quarter of the game. Trainers helped him as he walked off the field, and then they put him in a motorized cart and took him to the locker room. No word on what's wrong but he had a big leg brace on in the locker room after the game.

Chiefs lose....again. Ugh. What a terrible feeling entering Dolphins and Broncos weeks -- expecting to win -- and then losing. The locker room seemed deflated after the game, like they didn't want to have this feeling again.

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No home-field advantage can compensate for how terrible this team is playing at the moment. If the Chiefs come out and play well enough to compete, the Arrowhead fans will help them win it.

by joplin chiefs fan on Nov 13, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly

I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!

by LookListenLearn on Nov 13, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing has changed...

from last season to this one except the Chiefs performance. Home field is fine they just need something to cheer about.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:12 AM CST up reply actions  

ONE THING TO REMEMBE.......

they completed 2 passes and beat us at home. SMH

by ku-chiefs-fan on Nov 14, 2011 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

You don't need 18 things to remember

All you need is 2. Those 2 passes completed in a game that was never as close as the score indicated

I'm so overrated, I'm underrated.

by RememberDelaney37 on Nov 13, 2011 3:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

19th thing to remember

Thomas jones continues to not produce… I admire his leadership in the locker room, but I’d say he’s putting himself as a prime candidate for the right 54.

by harmokc on Nov 13, 2011 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

The locker room seemed deflated after the game, like they didn’t want to have this feeling again.

They better get used to it. It’s going to happen plenty more times to them this year.

by oldchiefsfan on Nov 13, 2011 4:10 PM CST reply actions  

Haley

Good riddens! That guy needs to go. Deer in the headlights.

by BeRrRy29 on Nov 13, 2011 4:11 PM CST reply actions  

Typo

I think you mean Matt Cassel.

by socnick on Nov 13, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Miami and now Denver in

Arrowhead yeah let it all out fella’s!

The value of life can be measured by how many times your soul has been deeply stirred!

by wwJamaalCharlesdo on Nov 13, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Just watched

Haley and Cassel’s post game.. Very informative NOT! Cassel seemed all scared when a reporter asked about why he was sidelined.

The value of life can be measured by how many times your soul has been deeply stirred!

by wwJamaalCharlesdo on Nov 13, 2011 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

Ya know....

I’ve stuck by Cassel for so long. I have blamed the lack of consistency in the offensive coordinator position as to why Cassel struggles. But no more. Cassel is just bad. He cannot make the throws necessary to be an effective, quality quarterback. Too many throws behind receivers or in areas they cannot catch them.
Cassel was pressured all day…but at some point, you have to know you are going to get hit and make a good throw. Cassel won’t, and is incapable of doing it.

It’s just embarrassing when you give up 2 completions and you lose. The worst football game I ever saw in person was in 2009, Browns @ Bills. The Browns won 6-3, after completing I think only 2 passes. I didn’t think it was possible to see it happen again.

by ibuc05 on Nov 13, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I like Cassel he's a great guy but....

We’re wasting 3 extremely talented receivers and it’s a crying shame. KC should have to pay a fine or something….seriously.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Can we please stop living a lie

This is a bad football team. Let’s face it our front seven only has 2 guys worth keeping DJ and Hali. After that they all need to go. We absolutely need a QB. 93 yards in a whole game, you have to be kidding me. We need to stop making excuses and admit that this team is a long way from being competitive. Don’t blame it on injuries either. I seem to remember a certain New England team winning 11 games after they lost their best player and they did it with a horrible QB ( aka Matt Cassel). The KOOL AID officially taste bad and this team needs to make changes. They keep doing the same things and expecting different results. I can’t even stand to watch any more it is to painful.

by brewman32 on Nov 13, 2011 4:15 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

would you feel the same way if the Chiefs pulled out a miracle win today?

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I would. They have not beat anybody good in 4 years.

The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.

by saskwatch on Nov 13, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

So if they were 5-4 and in first place you would still want to can everyone?

That seems a little harsh.

It is amusing the drastic changes in who we believe in with a win or a loss. If we win today people want Haley and Pioli to build a dynasty in Kansas City.

The Chiefs lose today and people want to fire everyone. It is quite the contrast, but that is sports for you.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Your arguing with the wrong guy.

I thought they would win this game and lose out. Now I think they just lose out.

The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.

by saskwatch on Nov 13, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

So do you think scraping the Coach/GM/ QB is the way to go?

Who is to say the new people will be any better?

What is your stance Sask?

I don’t think another rebuild is the right way to go, this regime just needs some serious adjustments a complete wipe would be silly IMO.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Pioli is going nowhere.

If they lose the rest of the games and don’t look competitive Haley is gone. If they win a couple or even if they play pretty good against some of these good teams the next 5 weeks he probably gets another year.

Cassel is probably the best QB on the roster (as scary as that is), but I have been done with him for the last 2 seasons. Time to move on in the offseason.

The views expressed by craig in calgary do not necessarily represent the views of all Canadians.

by saskwatch on Nov 13, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Who do they bring in?

If Haley were to be fired? It would have to be a Belichick disciple most likely, right? Mangini? McDaniels?

I like Todd Haley, but these game plans this year are killing me. When it comes down to it, he has to be held accountable for that.

If Nick Wright was right and Scott Pioli lied to Joel. Maybe we could see Haley fired soon. Though I doubt that. I don’t want a new coach.

I just want this regime to get its head out of its ass.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

because the Defense has been so stellar?

Everyone on the planet knew Tebow was gonna run that first touch down, except apparently the Chiefs D.

I'm not a smart man

by Gumpster on Nov 13, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Dude

I really can’t condone that.

His defense has been as atrocious, if not more-so, as any part of this team this year. No one on staff deserves a promotion. No one.

by SCKSChief on Nov 14, 2011 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly... you don't build a team by canning everyone.

Yes changes need to occur, but it needs to be systematic.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Nov 13, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The Chiefs need to adjust their pieces...

Insert some new draft picks, QB and healthy returning players.

They need a serious adjustment to how they build the game plans, but I don’t think they need to scrap everything. There are far to many positives.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree...

and I can see us making an improvement like San Francisco did this year. That is if we get the right pieces to the puzzle.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Nov 13, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope that those staying super positive understand a lot of people myself included believe in the long term plan here

I like the players they have started to put together for the most part, I think this team will be very good next year if its able to find a good QB and improve line play, but…as of now, this is an ugly time for chiefs fans and the organization.

I hope the team sticks behind head coach todd haley through this rough season, and that next year, with a full offseason to work on conditioning and getting healthy, that they will be ready to take advantage of an easier schedule.

thats about as positive as I can go at this point. its ugly

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Nov 13, 2011 4:17 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I'm conflicted

Pioli built this team and lack of depth/talent are on him.

Tebow > Cassel

by craig in calgary on Nov 13, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Year 3 of a rebuild

with crap for depth. Give Pioli and Haley some credit. We have starters but we need backups.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Nov 13, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

were in year 5 of rebuilding

Herm started rebuilding after Willie Roaf and Will Shields retired. Herm’s second year all he had was Tony G, J Allen,DJ and Brain Waters. The defense sucked, the WR sucked, Brain Waters was the only O lineman that was any good. Larry Johnson was overrated .

After five years our O line and D line is a mess. I hate drafting Defensive linemen
in the first and second round. It seems there are a lot of bust with D linemen.
I don’t think Dorsey fits our 3-4, I think the other player Herm drafted compliment
the players pioli drafted. Losing Berry really hurts, last year we could be more creative with our schemes on defense because Berry could cover so much field.

I didn’t like the conservative play calling when Herm was the coach, I don’t like the conservative play calling with Haley. Herm was conservative because he wanted to shorten the game because our defense sucked. I’ don’t know what Haley deal is, If he doesn’t trust his QB, He should get another QB. It’s not fair to the team, the fans and to Cassel when we play not to lose. Were not going to the playoffs,
take off the training wheels with Cassel.Were so worried about throwing an interception. Lets play to win. I don’t care if we throw an interception.

by rdlvegas85 on Nov 13, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

His decision making has improved and he is capable of throwing Rockets case in point Baldwin’s non catch. Let the boy loose sink or swim at least then we have a definitive answer to whether he sucks or not.

The only reason that’s in question is because he’s kept on a leash. It’s not like we’ve got much left o lose this season anyway.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:28 AM CST up reply actions  

every team has starters

How many of our starters are actually HIGH quality?

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's see...

3 receivers, one, possibly two corners, the kicker, the punter, Hali, DJ… I like Lewis but he still needs work… and of course the 3 on IR.

That pretty much covers it.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Punter is starting to fall off already too

His little brother put him to shame yesterday.

by SCKSChief on Nov 14, 2011 7:46 AM CST up reply actions  

This is what I find amusing

when we play good and are winning its all cuz of the team and “core” players that Herm gave us but when we play bad and lose with those same “core” players its all cuz of Pioli

by badassz1987 on Nov 13, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

There are a handful of folks on either side of the Haley/Pioli fence who play that rhetorical game...

I just look past it.

My take? They’ve BOTH got at least another year, maybe two, before these kinds of questions are legit (and Todd moreso than Scott). But we are woefully weak on depth still…we’ve developed the guys who’re here in a way that they didn’t, and maybe wouldn’t have when Herm and Team were around…

Today was a major embarassment, though, in my mind. We definitely aren’t a “good” team but we’re fiesty enough to beat (or lose to) anyone.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 13, 2011 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Hit the nail on the head

But the oline and QB issues have been here since Pioli got here and we draft the Dex’s of the world. Any positive I had left is just about gone.

by SCKSChief on Nov 13, 2011 4:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

We also draft the Berrys

and the Baldwins… not every pick can be great and Dexter has his uses. e just need him to have more with Charles out.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Berry and Baldwin

were no-brainers, best talent on the board and a position of need. You can honestly tell me we needed a gadget player in the 2nd round? We didn’t need MORE help in the trenches? Okay, so we use the draft for those guys, I’ll go with that. We still need help in FA, right? Why then do we sit on over $30 mil every off season? WTF are we waiting for?

by SCKSChief on Nov 14, 2011 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

This team could be very good…with a new QB and a couple impact offensive lineman. We have good WR’s, good RB’s, good CB’s and safety’s when everybody is healthy, a decent LB core, and…well…shitty d-line except Tamba.

by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 13, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It needs to start with the lines

Both of them they are our weakest inks.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:36 AM CST up reply actions  

No kidding

Too bad we didn’t have any money to spend in the last THREE off-seasons. Oh wait…

by SCKSChief on Nov 14, 2011 7:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok I have to get this positive crap out of my system because I'm starting to put a dress on

I predict we win exactly one more game this season, and it will be against the Green Bay Packers who will go on to finish 15-1.

We will make toasts with Miami for some reason, and they will in turn shut us out completely next time we play them because that Field Goal was a fluke.

Man it feels good to be positive.

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 13, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Haley

and think the Chiefs should keep him.
The answer to success is NOT by firing a coach after a poor season.

by ibuc05 on Nov 13, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The change...

should be removing Cassel from the lineup next week. I don’t care who we play. Cassel is not making the decisions/plays to be managing a game, or being called an effective qb.

Haley has had it tough this year, with injuries playing a large role. That touchdown to Decker near the end of the game I don’t think would have happened if Berry were in the lineup. #48 had no idea the ball was coming until it was already too late.

I think Haley is very influential to this team. He yells. I like yelling. It gets the players pumped up, and when someone gets pissed, it sends a message. Our talent pool is just not there though.

by ibuc05 on Nov 13, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I second much of that.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 13, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely

Langford blew it big time on the coverage over the top on decker.

I'm not a smart man

by Gumpster on Nov 13, 2011 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Say hello to Palko

I know it was garbage time but he looked good. Had they recovered the onside kick AND gotten the six, I say go for two and win this thing. I still have faith in Dex. I don’t care about his “issues”. His fumble during MNF was not a fumble and they got the call correct this week.

As for Haley, I still like him. We need a different QB and some changes on the Offensive Line. I say give Palko the chance next week and bench Cassel. Palko showed that he could drive down the field with great speed. Garbage time is still time played.

In the mean time, I am glad I have a second team to root for. Blaine Gabbert has CRAP to throw to and a TE that can’t catch and he still does a good job.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Nov 13, 2011 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

Yikes a Jags fan too

Sheesh!

The value of life can be measured by how many times your soul has been deeply stirred!

by wwJamaalCharlesdo on Nov 13, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Herm Era

was nasty for me. I needed a second team to root for just to keep my sanity. At least they have a playoff win in the last 10 years.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Nov 13, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Herm era was nasty

But I could never imagine being a chiefs fan and also being a fan of another team.

The value of life can be measured by how many times your soul has been deeply stirred!

by wwJamaalCharlesdo on Nov 13, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Herm era

3 years = 2 shitty years, 1 playoff game where we were blown out

Haley/Pioli era

3 years = 2 shitty years, 1 playoff game where we were blown out.

Tebow > Cassel

by craig in calgary on Nov 13, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

So scary, dude

We’ve all gutted an ass-load of kool aid on this deal…

by SCKSChief on Nov 13, 2011 4:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

DAMN YOUR FILTHY LIES

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 13, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Big difference tho

Herm inherited a playoff caliber team. Haley/Pioli inherited a 2-14 clusterfuck of a team

by badassz1987 on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Herm inherited an aging team of washed up vets

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 13, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

True that.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 13, 2011 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Reeeeeaaaaal talk.

Herm inherited a team full of past their prime players.
Pioli inherited a clusterfuck of youth and talent that didn’t know how to play.

Both got the shaft.

by dubPeacock on Nov 13, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

and a shit ton of money

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 13, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

They say root for the home team

Well I was born in Jacksonville but raised in KC. I root for both.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Nov 13, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Been a Packers fan since the day I was born.

First jersey I ever owned as a kid was a Brett Favre number 4, so naturally they’re my 2nd favorite. But KC will always be number one.

by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 13, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

wow!!!

Houston we have a problem. I too like Haley, but i’m beginning to wonder if he is head coach material. As far as Cassel goes, the dude plays with heart, just wish he had as much talent as he does heart. Might make a good makeup. but he’s not a starting QB.

by Cheifs fool on Nov 13, 2011 4:27 PM CST reply actions  

He never was a starting QB material

Up until 08,he was a career backup since High School.That should of told people something

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Next year

We will be back in the playoffs. The lockout and injuries have absolutely demolished this team. Lack of depth, of course, is still an issue. It just kills me inside when players from the first round of the draft completely fall on their face. Dorsey and Jackson were supposed to be amazing. They were both utterly dominant presences in college, but for whatever reason neither of them has brought their game to the NFL. Haley is a good coach, with a sh*tty OC, a lack of depth, and a whole lotta bad luck.

by husker_doc on Nov 13, 2011 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

Can't use lockout/injuries excuse anymore.

Every team has went threw that to.The good teams overcome those things

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

We

were not a good team before this season…

by husker_doc on Nov 13, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Dorsey and Jackson

are not 3-4 DE’s. Stick them in the 4-3 and completely different ball game. The only two players to prosper in the 3-4 are DJ (who was a beast anyway) and Tamba Hali.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Not true at all

Maybe for Dorsey, but Jackson was the #1 3-4 DE in that draft for a reason.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Nov 13, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Still Jackson can't play even if it was the 15th DE taken--which is they rewrote the 2009 draft is where he would fall.

The guy is terrible. He is either getting pushed out of the play or on the ground when he tries to take on the offensive line low. They just push him to the ground. The man is a terrible DL period!.

by NFL season ticket holder on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

We need a QB, nose guard, center, offensive tackle, and better coordinators.

I’m willing to give Haley one more year if the needed changes and additions are addressed. If they aren’t and there is no drastic improvement on both sides of the ball, then Pioli and Haley need to go.

by Flyboy26 on Nov 13, 2011 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

im with that. I think they get another year. if its this next year...then its a failure

but something tells me minus freak injuries next season will be a good one

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

definitely

Providing COLOR commentary for Arrowhead Pride! AKA The Picture Diva!

by LadyChief on Nov 13, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Good call Craig.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 13, 2011 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

This team needs so much help

Where do you start? We are behind on the development and in the talent arena.

by SCKSChief on Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Thoughts on

Robert Griffin III or Barkley? I would like them both, but I think Barkley has a better future

by husker_doc on Nov 13, 2011 4:34 PM CST reply actions  

I still say Stanzi

now. If that many teams wanted to trade up for him, stay with him.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Nov 13, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

start him why not

although I think he is a long shot to be good

In nomeni parti et fili spiritus sancti

by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

70 QB;s taken in round 5-7 since 2000

And you can only name me 1 star.That should tell you all you need to know

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, how much worse can he be than Cassel?

13/28, 93 yards are high school numbers.
Not saying Stanzi is the guy, but we should at least see what he has before investing our future in Barkley/RGIII.

by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 13, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

would rather have Luck

We aren’t going to be in position to get a top qb.Do you understand now why all of us’’,stupid, ignorant,disloyal,band wagon fans’’ ,wanted us to suck for luck now? We are going to be 5-11 or 6-10 this year .Woo hooo,yeah baby!We played our way out of getting a top QB in the draft.I hope all the ’’loyal’’ fans are patting themselves on the back,congrats.

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I have a Suck for Luck t-shirt.

So…yeah…I pretty much agree with everything you said.

by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 13, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Watched him play yesterday and was only mildly impressed.

To me there are a few other QBs as good and possibly better.

by Flyboy26 on Nov 13, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

If you're trying to pin me down to specifics, it won't work.

However, if I’m still in country next week, I’ll be sure to write everything down. Till then, just as I am, you’re entitled to your opnion and I will respect that. My hard drive is getting too full and my processor needs replacing. :-)

by Flyboy26 on Nov 13, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not trying to pin you down

You specificly said there are other QB’s out there just as good.I simply asked who you saw that was better that’s all.And if you needed to write them down,maybe they weren’t that memorable as you thought

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate it when I can't name QBs

because my hard drive is too full and my processor needs replacing.

Wait, what?

by dubPeacock on Nov 13, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

You're crazy..

dude balled last night. Made all the throws. Not his fault you can’t stop the Ducks.

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 13, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

And we played our way out of getting him,Barkly,RG3,even Landry Jones

Truly a lost season..I am very depressed

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure about that....

We have 1 maybe 2 wins left. That should put us picking around 10-15, we’re in the running. Plus theres always my boy Foles.

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 13, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

NO No No on Foles

He has underachieved(with good Wr’s) at AZ his whole career.Doesn’t have that big of an arm either.No way I would even think about touching him in the 1st round.The elite QB’s will be gone by 10-15

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I second that

Do NOT like Foles.

Russell Wilson would be alright after Luck, RG3, Barkley or maybe even Jones. I’m not hating Weeden right now even though he is 100.

by SCKSChief on Nov 14, 2011 7:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually it tells you nothing till you see the guy in action.

He looked good when not running for his life in the preseason.

by bossmanham on Nov 13, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Start so fans can see he's no better than Cassel and we can move on

We don’t need this hovering over the franchise during the off season.We need to draft a qb

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

If that's the case, then at least we'll know.

I don’t see anything that could get us the top pick in the draft. How many picks would we have to give up to get the #1?

by bossmanham on Nov 13, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I wrote a fan post about that awhile back

2 whole drafts

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Luck is good.

But how can you be sold he’s THAT good? If he doesn’t work out, it’s the worst personel move in the history of the NFL.

I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.

by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 13, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

And when you don't make moves because you're petrified by the worst possible outcome...

well, you’re a pussy

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 13, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Just sayin, if you give up 2 drafts for one player that doesn't work out...

…you’ll be screwed for 5-7 years. Personally if the Chiefs gave away a ton of picks to move up and get Luck, I’d be ok with it because I think Luck IS that good. Chances the Chiefs do that? Less than 1%.

I can now say this with a straight face, and it will be accurate: Tim Tebow is a better QB than Matt Cassel.

by ProbablyYoungerThanAllOfYou on Nov 13, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

No it wouldn't be

Rookie wage scale remember

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

it would be if it was blown trade

I think you are going to half to start emailing Pioli about hiring Ditka if you want to get your plan done.

Otherwise it doesn’t happen. I don’t even think Ditka would do it again..

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you know who the saints lost out on that trade?

I looked back at that trade and in 99 and 2000 ,taken the rest of the saints picks,the only players that made an impact were Lavar Arrington,Darren Howard,Desmond Clark,Billy Miller.3 starters and 1 backup out of 14 picks.Yeah, I would give that up in a heartbeat for a franchise QB

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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 13, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem with Ditka's trade was that it was for a running back

Not a sure thing, can’t miss QB

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 13, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I depends how far.

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by saskwatch on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't remember...

But I DO remember a certain QB bust who went 1st overall. I imagine many other Chiefs fans remember too. Sometimes you don’t know till they go pro.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:50 AM CST up reply actions  

his arm strength is questionable

is it better than Cassel’s? Yes.

That isn’t saying much

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Nov 13, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

There has to be as reason we got him in the 5th round

and there has to be a reason that he’s 3rd string behind the underwhelming Tyler Palko

by joplin chiefs fan on Nov 13, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Because Haley is stubborn

He has to stick with Cassel, Palko is here already and knows the offense pretty well. Has to do with him not knowing the offense but we’ll see next week, Cassel left the stadium in a cast

by RamX21 on Nov 13, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Nov 13, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Guys

We just lost to a second PUTRID team in as many weeks. This is really bad. I don’t see how three guys (all skill positions) are going to fix our issues. It really makes me wonder what is actually going on with the coaches and front office.

by SCKSChief on Nov 13, 2011 4:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

The Chiefs in the last 2 weeks have allowed their opponent to take away their will away and have proven it everyone-- the national media, Jack Harry, Frank Boal, and the guys at 810--- right that they are a bad football team.

It was disgusting to watch the Dolphins and Broncos come into our house and have a will to want to win more that the Chiefs players prepared and played. You can say the Chiefs are under manned and they lack a lot of talent but to have no life and play and coach as poorly as they did in these 2 games—-The whole season has been disgusting to watch!!. It’s time to clean house again and It’s almost time to cancel my 25 year season tickets.

by NFL season ticket holder on Nov 13, 2011 4:42 PM CST reply actions  

Its a very easy formula to beat the Chiefs

challenge their manhood on the lines and don’t turn the ball over. They wilt every time

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Nov 13, 2011 4:46 PM CST reply actions  

Give them the ball.

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 13, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Where is Kelly Gregg?

Seems like KC can’t stop the run. They need to go out and get some FAs that can. I think it’s time to start Hudson, Stanzi, and Powe. If we are going to lose the next 5 games, why not give these guys the best test of their life?

by Mitul V. Patel on Nov 13, 2011 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

Stanzi a longshot to see the field

Haley always plays the older player unless he absolutely just can’t. Palko might finish the season but i doubt that as well barring a MC injury, and unlucky for us, MC is pretty durable.

by SillyHatDay on Nov 13, 2011 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

I haven't see anything

To indicate Palko would be an improvement over Cassel. I wish I could say otherwise. It would be great if we had a convenient replacement right here in KC.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm surprised how so many on AP and the were ragging Haley about his sideline demeanor.

Now nobody has mentioned a word about how meek and quiet he’s been on the sidelines this year. I think he’s afraid to show his emotions. However, players need to see their coaches show some fire sometimes. I say bring back a slightly modified version of the old spirited Haley.

by Flyboy26 on Nov 13, 2011 4:54 PM CST reply actions  

Oh its been mentioned...

Maybe not on this thread but its been said and the response was something like…

“1st you complain he’s too temperamental and then complain he’s too docile”

Yep it’s been covered.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 3:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Starting Calabaloo Falko is not the answer.

if the Chiefs make the QB switch it should be to Rick(-y) Stanzi.

Sure Tyler Palko looked okay for the six seconds he was in the game, but that won’t translate week to week IMO.

Meh...
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@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 4:55 PM CST reply actions  

I just think that Stanzi is a left armed semi-athletic QB that is in KC for training purposes, like this week.

Which didn’t even really help that much today.

He is not a genuine NFL starter and I feel that starting him would be a waste of time. He is not Steve Young, Jim Zorn or even Tim Tebow. He was a average college QB, with below average pro skills.

He might be okay for a series or two, but IMO he is not the answer. He looks lost out there, looks unnatural and it takes him five hours to get rid of the ball in the times I have seen him play. He throws off balance and has a seriously low release point for someone of his small height. That is scary stuff.

Personally, I think Stanzi is the way to go. He has the college pro style offense experience. Tremendous size and he is a gamer. I don’t believe he is truly the answer at QB, but I feel that he could give this team a spark and it would be great experience for him at this point in time.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Stanzi Palko

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Well I agree that I'd rather see Stanzi.

But I also don’t want him ruined by crappy o-line play.

by bossmanham on Nov 13, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I just want to see him before april

He has good feet and the line gives Cassel some time, Cassel just hesitates often. I don’t think Stanzi would do that as much, that is the hope anyway.

injuries are always a concern, but I don’t want to not look at the guy this year because he might get hurt. He might get hurt next year too. There is no benefit to playing Palko over Stanzi in my opinion. Zero.

I secretly hope that they have been grooming Stanzi behind the scenes for weeks now for this moment, but that is wishful thinking.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I will be incredibly disappointed if they were grooming Palko to be the starter and Haley has been fighting for him this whole time behind closed doors.

Maybe Haley secretly loves left handed QB’s though, you have as much insight into that as I do.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Really I can't get past the idea that Palko is a short garbage left armed back up QB

The worst NFL roster QB in the NFL most likely.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Well at least

he’s an improvement over Croyle… of course that says next to nothing but stlll… could be worse.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 4:00 AM CST up reply actions  

oh gotcha...

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

if palko does start

Does this mean our “gameplan” goes super conservative by running and punting hoping our D or special teams score? I know its not much different than now but I don’t see Haley letting Palko throw 15-20 passes…

by jcrunninwild on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

You forgot call a timeout on the opening drive's first 3rd down (3rd and 8+)

so you can call a draw to McCluster for 3 yards.

This script is IMPERATIVE.

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 13, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's hope not

We have NO RUN GAME without Charles.

by kcfanintx on Nov 14, 2011 4:01 AM CST up reply actions  

wow

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by j-man on Nov 13, 2011 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

Time to go back to the 4-3 D

We have a defense full of 4-3 players. We have the worst 3-4 defense I have ever seen.

I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!

by LookListenLearn on Nov 13, 2011 5:30 PM CST reply actions  

Coupled with a few guys who can execute a snap with anyone in the League on Offense

It’s purty.

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.

by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Our defense would be better if we could get any offense.

Our offense is the problem. We need to re-sign Bowe and Carr now while their stocks are dipping.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

The defense is good enough to win with.

The offense is offensive.

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by saskwatch on Nov 13, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

We need a new D line and or D line coach

I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!

by LookListenLearn on Nov 13, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

we need Eric Berry healthy more than anything

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

We have been through so many coaches on D in the past 20 years

that I don’t think it would help. No amount of slap tests is going to help this cause, we need talent, better scheme and the pieces to make it work.

Meh...
I don't only want to stand out here when we get our asses kicked... I like to stand out here when we kick somebody else's ass... Big Win, Big Win ~ Todd Haley
@w_a_watts

by Chief-blinders-on on Nov 13, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Logic is for winners

We’ll have none of that commie talk here

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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Nov 13, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Needed two scores, get the FG first

Standing on the corner in a white Godfather hat. He drives a long black gangster Cadillac. He can steal a broads mind, man, in three or four minutes. It’s not how long you talk, brother, it’s what you put in it.

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 13, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

What's Haley's marquee win as a coach?

In 42 games as a head coach you would assume that he has a “big” win over a good team. Would it be the last second win against the 9-7 Chargers in the MNF game to start last season? Or the MNF win this year against the same Chargers team who handed the game to us on a platter, the same team that is 4-5 and has lost 4 in a row? I can’t think of any other big wins, and if one of those is his crowning achievement, well that’s pretty sad.

by Lil'Sparky on Nov 13, 2011 6:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Worse loss in the Haley era in my opinion.

We faced a team that we knew exactly what they were going to do, and they still ahd no problem doing it, and shoved it down our throats. We lost to a QB that is not able to successfully pass the football, in the NFL, forcing an entire NFL team to run college option plays. We couldn’t do anything offensively,against a defense that is one of the worse in the league, and all of this happened at home. We blew our chances to at least have a winning record, during the easiest part of our schedule. This team has too much individual talent to play like they have this season, with the extreme inconsistency. We have the best receiving core we have had in years, and a running game that should be better than it is, even without Charles, with McClain at FB and the combination of Jones, Battle and a very underperforming Dex. Our running game was successful enough to keep teams honest, for 2 or 3 games, and has now disappeared. We have what should be one of the top secondaries in the NFL, who have displayed that ability, only to make Matt Moore look like Marino (which is a Haley quote) last week. This team has lost it;s direction, and I don’t know who to blame right now. Ultimately, they look like a poorly coached and unprepared team, who seem confused alot of the time. I think the effort is still there, by most of the players, but thay don’t seem have a clue what their role is anymore. No excuse for this, injuries or not. Good teams overcome injuries, and we are not a good team right now, in fact, we have no business being on an NFL football field, with that level of play. As someone who has defended them, even during some bad times, I have no answer for this, nor is it acceptable to us fans.

There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.

by Racyman on Nov 13, 2011 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

I agree... The last 2 weeks have been disgusting losses. I have defended Haley for 3 years but can't do it anymore.

Every team has injuries so that is just excuses that losers use.
We were lucky that Denver’s best running back got hurt in the 1st 5 minutes of the game. Otherwise—they would have ran for 400 yards.
Again DISGUSTING!!

by NFL season ticket holder on Nov 13, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

18 THING TO REMEMBER!!

18 thing to remember, you mean 18 thing to forget, right.

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by CPT.Caveman on Nov 13, 2011 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

we desparately need to upgrade our Offensive line if we're going to make a living passing

without the Charles-led rushing attack we can’t keep the pressure off Matt and he’s not that good a quarterback to succeed without a lot of time. Heck he’s not that good with time. If I’m coaching, we’d make these changes going into next week. Stanzi so we see what we have, Hudson for Wegman (we just are too small on the interior line) and Gaither at left tackle for Albert, Albert to rt tackle for BRich. Let’s start putting together an offense that we can win with in the future and get them some experience.

by MarylandChief on Nov 13, 2011 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

Meeh

I agree on some of your points about Albert to RT.. but Gaither is HORRIBLE… he is SOOOO slow it’s not even funny.

by macjeff35 on Nov 14, 2011 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Damn It!!!!

I live in Denver, and now I have to listen to these pathetic assholes continue to talk about how freaking amazing they are. Why couldn’t we get things going? Denver is a horrible team, and everyone here in Denver thinks they are headed to the playoffs already. Yeah, the playoffs!?!?!? This week is going to go so slow having every freakin’ bandwagon fan tell me how bad the Chiefs are and how the Broncos are the best! I might call into work sick for the next couple days until the Jets come to Denver and kick the shit out of them!!!!

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by ChiefsatWar on Nov 13, 2011 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

Haley

KSHB teased with “will Todd Haley Be Fired?” leading into the Sunday Night game. Anyone heard anything? Jack Harry have one of his usual reliable sources?

by Bluesdaddy on Nov 13, 2011 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

I agree. The D is not the problem. Despite one really poorly covered deep ball and the opening drive they played fairly well. If the offense could move the ball at all it would make our defense look much better. The main thing our defense lacks is a couple good D linemen to compliment Hali. Our pass rush is pathetic.

by bwh31 on Nov 13, 2011 7:53 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Pushed Around

Both lines got pushed all over the field, all afternoon. I thought Gregg and Dorsey were the real deal. They’re not. I was watching when Weigman (sp) and Lilja would come onto the field prior to each drive. They look like midgets compared to Dener’s D-Line. This team can win if they one, play well; two, get a couple of turnovers. Otherwise, they aren’t even an average NFL team. The talent level really isn’t where it needs to be.

by Bluesdaddy on Nov 13, 2011 8:09 PM CST reply actions  

Cassel

Cassel is playing the best he can while he is running for his life. Our Oline is pitiful at the moment. How do you expect anyone to play under center in those conditions? For those of you who are calling for Cassel’s head, obviously haven’t watched the last two games. Our Oline is a JOKE at the moment.

Lilja and Weigman look awful this year. Why aren’t we giving Hudson a shot? I have no idea… why aren’t we running Battle 30 times a game, I have no idea… Why does Baldwin play 4 plays a game, I have no idea….

This team looks lost at the moment from the top down. Zero fun to watch. To all of you who think we miss Charles badly… we actually miss Berry and Moeaki more… Our safeties look lost without him. McGraw is probably a nice guy and all, but he’s so slow it’s not even funny anymore. Don’t even get me started on Piscatelli… Langford looked good until he was burnt but I don’t blame him when you’re looking for the run 99.9% of the time against Denver. I’m convinced people only think Lewis is good because Berry was so amazing that Lewis looked decent…

Moeaki can block and stretch the field.. Something Pope, OConnell, Beacht and whoever the hell else is in there can’t. Our tight ends are HORRIBLE right now.

Richardson might as well just sit on the sidelines and let us play for four O-linemen… he has been surprisingly horrible this year, worse than Wigeman.

Thank god we have DJ on defense, only enjoyable thing to watch all year.

I would hate to be Cassel right now. Everyone hates and doubts you, when you’re actually pretty good (I didn’t use to think so), and your team is playing at its absolute worst. Of course, it is ALWAYS the qb’s fault. No one cares how many wins or losses a starting running back or starting middle linebacker has…

I have no idea what the answer is, I always look forward to Sundays and was feeling pretty good PRIOR to the Dolphins game… but why should I be anymore surprised at the moment….AND we have the Royals to look forward too… woohoo…not.

by macjeff35 on Nov 14, 2011 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

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