Early Look at the 2012 Draft: SILB
Hey there everyone this is ChiefsFanJon and i know there's still a ton of football left in the 2011 season but its never to early to start educating yourself on both: the needs of next years chiefs and the available players courtesy of the 2012 draft. And with that introduction I will be breaking down the key positions that I believe the Chiefs could use improvement.
This next position is another that varies greatly from one fan to another. Javon Belcher is young and he has gotten better each year in the league. He hits the hole hard and allows DJ to fly around making tackles on the field but he is a huge liability in the passing game. Adding to the position with a more athletic player that can stuff the run, cover, and has the ability to blitz would add to not only the base defense but allow more confusion in blitz packages.
This position is a moderate need and i would like to see a pick in this draft used to update the talent and level of competition at this position. I would place the need at a 4 out of 5 and this position could be addressed in the first round.
1. Vontaze Burfict, SILB, Arizona St. - 6' 3" 250 lbs
Burfict as an absolute animal and he plays like one. He flies around the field putting fear in the offense as he delivers bone crushing hits. He possesses elite athleticism and anticipation and is excellent at reading and reacting to what is happening on the field in front of him. He has red flags as there are stories on the web about him punching a teammate and getting into it with assistant coaches but his talent and playmaking ability should have him as a top 15 pick for any team needing a linebacker. Burfict is a top 10 talent but with his control issues he has slipped a little and could be available when the chiefs pick.
Potential Upside: Ray LewisBurfict is passionate and plays with everything he has. He loves to put fear into the offense and deliver the big hits. He will drop into coverage and make plays reading and reacting to the QB's eyes. If he can keep himself in control and not let his passion and emotion get out of hand the sky is the limit.
2. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame - 6'2" 245 lbs
Wildly talented being the top LB recruit in the country coming out of high school 3 years ago he is a junior for Notre Dame this year and has experience in a 3-4 defense. Te'o has elite size for a linebacker and is a 4 down player with very good athleticism and excellent coverage skills. He would be able to play either WILB or SILB but has less experience taking on and shedding blocks as a SILB. His motor, work ethic, and leadership are also rumored to be great and he has no off the field issues. Te'o is expected to be a top 20 pick if he leaves ND and enters the NFL draft this season.
Potential Upside: Brian UrlacherTe'o really is a rare linebacker and if he can put it all together and put in the work he could go down as one of the best. He has a very rare combination of size, strength, speed, acceleration and he has excellent instincts and awareness.
3. Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama - 6'4" 260 lbs
Hightower is the leader of Nick Saban's 3-4 defense and he is a punisher at linebacker. He has ability to blitz and take on blockers from the ILB position having done it in college and he possesses good speed (4.6-4.7) allowing him to make plays from the SILB position. He has a great motor and is lauded for having a great work ethic in the film room and weight room. He had a knee issue and missed most of last season but has shown little effect this year. He is expected to go in the early second round and could be a target of a trade down or trade up for us to pick him.
Potential Upside: David HarrisHightower is the very definition of a SILB. He puts in the hard work and makes the tough plays. He also bring the ability to get after the QB and could be used as a blitzer in obvious passing situations. He is solid in pass coverage and can muscle with the best but will get burned by speedier players.
4. Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansas - 6'1" 245 lbs
Franklin has potential as a pass rusher but also has the athleticism to play linebacker. He is a quality run stuffer and has shown the ability to stack blocks and shed them. He does possess strong pass rush moves which would be useful for subsets and keeping him on the field on 3rd down. Franklin is versatile which is a bonus for our defense and coaches. He should be a selection in the 2nd to 3rd round range and is a developmental linebacker with talent.
Potential Upside: Mike VrabelFranklin's greatest asset is his versatility. He has played at OLB, ILB, and subsets of defensive end. He is not prolific at anything but rather good at everything although he does have above average pass rush moves. Franklin would need to put in the work but he could be a Vrabel like player being a key part to a defense.
5. Tank Carder, ILB, TCU - 6'2" 237
Hard worker and leader of the TCU defense. Carder is a complete linebacker that puts in the hard work and does everything he can to help his team win. He is athletic for a SILB and is solid in pass coverage. Hard hitter and has great instincts. He is a developmental backer but should be able to challenge Belcher and contribute on special teams. Expected to be a 3rd round pick.
Potential Ceiling: James FarriorHe may never be an elite linebacker that gets a lot of attention but he can become a solid contributor on a champion quality team. He will be there to make the tough plays and to bring emotion and ferocity to the defense he plays for.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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While it's a little early to me, as far as draft preparations, I am glad to read your post.
I think our team is starting 3 backups, and all are a 5 star need. That being Belcher, as mentioned in you post, Lewis at safety and my top tier need of all, to replace BRich. These are my opinions, not likely shared by most or the Pioli/Haley combo. I am flummoxed that Gaither hasn’t been the guy to move into the starting RT position. But the rumour I remember was he was against being a RT and is why he was moved out of Baltimore. Out of the other 2, I think Lewis is the biggest liability as a starter, because is is slow to arrive- as seen on the TD catch the TE caught for his second score. Also, I am not a big fan of how he tackles. So then of the 3 starters we need to replace is ILB and Belcher. I agree with you that he is improving, and could easily see him replaced in passing situations or in the draft.
Lewis at safety?
Kendrick is not a backup at Free Safety.. he its a bonda-fide starter in my opinion.
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by chiefsfan62 on Nov 10, 2011 7:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like the fact we have had him roaming more often
That play you were talking about, when he didn’t get to the TE in time, was cover 2. Carr shouldn’t have released the TE that quickly with no under neath route. It’s not all on Lewis
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 10, 2011 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Lewis is a starter, period.
While playing next to Sabby and McGraw the dude looks good. Next to Washington, who somehow made me miss McGraw, he got abused a bit. But with Berry back in the lineup Lewis is a great starter opposite him. I would like another 4th or 5th round safety to provide quality depth and competition for Lewis and Berry.
by Jonathan Hake on Nov 10, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
Lewis isn't "great" by himself.
I do agree that, teamed with Berry, he is solid. He wasn’t drafted because he was of the Berry quality, he was suppose to compliment him, and has.
He's been solid without him
Even on a gimpy ankle, he’s been far and away our best safety.
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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 10, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
Lewis plays with lots of heart and could end up being one of the best picks from that draft over the long run.
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by CPT.Caveman on Nov 11, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed. He's got range
He’s not 1/10 the hitter Berry is, and isn’t as good in man coverage, but he’s a good “centerfielder”
That’s exactly what we need when Berry gets back. From what I hear Berry’s approaching rehabilitation like the beast he is. Won’t surprise me if he comes back even better than he was.
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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 11, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't surprise if he didn't. Ya just never know.
What Lewis has is what a lot of former KC DBs didn’t: a pair of hands and anticipatin of the ball,
would of ≠ would've
Haha good point
He’s also the tallest guy at an Oompa-Loompa convention…
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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 11, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't list Tank as a SILB, much more of a WILB
I have Hightower as my #1 SILB, Burfict #2
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Intradesting..
So does that mean Hightower is a 1st rounder, and Burfict a late 1st/early 2nd?
IMO, Chiefs won’t go LB in 1st, regardless of who’s available.
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No Hightower is still bottom 1/mid 2, Burfict is still a high to mid 1
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 10, 2011 8:05 AM CST up reply actions
Belcher's improved enough to prevent that position from being a weakness
Which is nice.
IMO draft needs to go QB then beef. And then we’re done.
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If we go QB -
I’ll feel like Stanzi ’merica was a wasted pick..
Agree with you on the ‘beef’, after all we do have the lightest offensive line in the NFL.
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by chiefsfan62 on Nov 10, 2011 8:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He was a 5th round pick, how many 5th round picks don't make it in the NFL?
If he was a first or second round pick it would be different.
I would like to see a bigger guard to groom ala Asamoah, Hudson is 300ish which is an upgrade to Casey at Center as well
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 10, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
Stanzi has the potential, hell watch some of his videos.
who cares what round he was picked in, why not give him a shot. Pick up a FA QB and move on to position of dire need like SILB/RT/RB/S. At some point Stanzi should get a shot IMHO, and I think he’ll be a better QB than Cassel.
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How are we in dire need for a RB?
Charles will be back next year and we can use Battle in the way we’ve used Jones.
If you aint first your last.
This is why.
The Chiefs are a run first team, what if J.Charles goes down again or isn’t the same guy he was before the injury. These are things that have to be considered, and should be taken care of before it happens again and we get caught with our pants down.. Look what losing E.Berry/J.Charles/T.Moeaki has done to this team. We have to address those positions either through the draft or FA market. My first 5 picks would go like this S/SILB/TE/RT/RB.
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by CPT.Caveman on Nov 11, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
By CPT: That's why I'd go O-Line first.
Nothing like great blocking to make the next runner on the depth chart into a successul starter, at need.
would of ≠ would've
I like R.Wagner RT Wisconsin
I hope he comes out for the draft this year, if not I hope we get agressive and go after one of the top 3 guys.
10/28/11: Wagner has been dominant in many games this season. He has opened up a lot of holes for running backs Montee Ball and James White, while preventing pressure on quarterback Russell Wilson. Wagner played well against Wisconsin’s better opponents like Nebraska and Michigan State. If Wagner stays in school, he could be one of the better senior tackles in the nation. It would be surprising if he entered the draft early.
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I agree RB isnt' a dire need
with Charles, Battle, McCluster, McClain
the Chiefs are in good shape.
I’d pick one up, but it’s not a priority
I don't know
I think they need another RB.
Battle is a decent change-of-pace guy (once we get Charles back). What if this is his pre-season and we never see him again? Also, as much as they allow McClain to carry the ball, we might as well move him to TE. McCluster is NOT a RB.
I would draft a TJ replacement.
drafting a TJ replacement is a fine idea
I just don’t see it as a HUGE need
this is a top 5 running offense in the NFL with JC without TJ
hell, they’re top 10 without JC
I'm not saying first two to three rounds
but I don’t think you turn up your nose at a good RB either.
To be honest, I’m kind of nervous about where Charles will be when he comes back. If he’s missing that explosion, can he still get it done? I think there should be some concern and attempt to secure a legitimate torch-bearer candidate.
Agree, but folks go overboard on "good RB" long before they come close to finishing
on the OL, DL and DBs.
I’d say the same about WR, but it looks like KC’s pretty set, there.
would of ≠ would've
I'm holding out until after the NE game (as I promised Matt in my letter)
But yeah, I don’t see why we should set the organization back another year by waiting to see what Stanzi can do.
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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 10, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
I'll say this.
Stanzi will be better prepared to start than any QB you could draft, even luck. I’ll tell you why……………………..Stanzi comes from a pro-style offense and has a year of learning the plays and working with Zorn. If we continue to go with Cassel who is yet to put a complete game together, isn’t that setting us back?
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by CPT.Caveman on Nov 11, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with that last part
But Luck is unique. Calling his own plays from a full playbook? I think he’s one of the most sure things ever.
I remember reading somewhere that games started and completion percentage were by far the two best methods of determining how a QB will do in the NFL.
In that case, Stanzi’s number of games started in a pro-style offense certainly works in his favor.
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by MNchiefsfan on Nov 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
One would believe the coaches have seen more of Stanzi and have a better feel for the guy
He hasn’t beaten out Palko(yeah I said it) yet. My point was a 5th round pick shouldn’t ever be considered a wasted pick if they do not make the team or are not on the team in a few years.
If we do not get our shit together I’m sure Stanzi will get his shot, if not and we roll with Cassel all year and Cassel shows almost no improvement then I will continue to call for a QB.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 11, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Lots of 5th rounders get "wasted"
Besides, if the position can be upgraded, do it at all costs.
OL and DL really have to be next to solidify what Haley wants to do. One cannot run the ball without good OL and a good/great QB cannot win if he’s on his back.
It's like watching Carson Palmer in Oakland. All of a sudden, he looks pretty good.
Or at least he did last night.
Seems like the San Diego D-Line had a lot of it their way against the Chiefs, but even when the Bolts defended correctly, I noticed the Oakland O-Line getting 2 or 3 yards, with sheer muscle, last night. The game was being fought on San Diego’s side of the line, on offense and defense, both.
Of course, we all saw McNeil and Vasquez go down, so maybe last night was more about San Diego depth than Oakland starters. It sure looked to me like they were pretty obstinate about Rivers’ blind side. They were basically down to chucking it high, and praying for a miracle. Makes for good highlights, but it’s nothing to count on all day long.
Rivers is sure taking a lot of heat, right now, but I saw a guy fighting for his life, surrounded by teammates who weren’t up to the job. And in Vincent Jackson’s case, I thought I was watching Chris Chambers, there, at crunch time. Lack of desire or loss of focus? I dunno what it was, but he was in good position to at least prevent the easy pick. Just got wrong-footed, somehow or simply failed to launch for some unknown reason. Got me to thinking a hungry kid, still waiting for his first million-dollar paycheck, looked better catching the ball last night (two, actually – one from each team, last night).
would of ≠ would've
Belcher may have improved,
but he just doesn’t have the physical skills to play the position solid. He is a backup forced into starting duty. Really need a thumper in there like Hightower. Belcher just gets eaten up by blocks. DJ makes too many plays that should have been Belcher’s.
Hightower looks awfully good
Burfict takes too many plays off and tends to disappear.
A guy that could be a sleeper NEXT year at the position is Jaydan Bird from Oklahoma. He doesn’t play all that much, but he is a run stopping machine and plays behind a very good 4-3 MLB in Tom Wort (who is better in coverage). Bird could be had in the late rounds and I think as a Thumper, he could be just what we need. Price would definitely be right.
Pretty much my thoughts on the two
Burfict still makes stupid mental errors, which do concern me if they have not been cleaned up yet.
Hightower has about done it all in a damn fine 3-4 system to date. With out defensive scheme we really can not afford to hand out 15+ free yards every drive(obviously a little sarcasm there)
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 10, 2011 8:07 AM CST up reply actions
I really don't think he sticks at WILB in the NFL
I don’t think the athleticism is there for him to be able to cover the fast TE’s and RB’s. He will have to be able to attack the hole and play damn good run defense to make it in the NFL. And i would put Hightower higher on my list of who to draft but i don’t believe Hightower goes in the first round while Burfict is a freak athletically.
by Jonathan Hake on Nov 10, 2011 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
I think Tank with a proper Defensive Line
Could be a SILB
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by ChiefWarPaint on Nov 13, 2011 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
Te'o all day
he can cover and he has range. Great athlete with a great head on his shoulders. Burfcet is a cannonball player and Hightower is only a downhill backer IMO.
Isn't Te'o smallish for SILB?
I agree he is a great player though
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by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 10, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Word
thought I read 235……..stupid work.
Yeah definitely an upgrade for the defense there. I’m hoping for more beef, but this kid would be hard to pass up
"The Chiefs only won last season's opener against the Chargers because of the monsoon that night".........yeah because it only rains on one team at a time!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah Te'o is my pick at SILB all day.
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I'd love to pick up the Te'o kid.
Hightower looks good too and he might slip to early 2nd. Too bad that ILB is not our biggest need. James Franklin might be good in a later round and Texas has another Acho that seem ok at ILB for a later pick .
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RE: Lewis
the kid is a starter and a damned good one. he’s still learning NFL coverages and takes a bad angle here and there but he’s heady, instinctive, and can’t keep his hand off of opposing offenses passes.
He really needs to clean up his tackling though.
That’s my main problem with him. Too prone to arm-tackling guys that are bigger / stronger than him, and he gets shed pretty easily when he does that.
Not expecting Berry-like super power tackling. Just want the last guy between the offense and the end zone to be pretty sure to bring down the ball carrier. That’s still a liability.
Definitely like how he’s reading things and ball hawking lately though.
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Wheres Kuechly at?
He should be number 1
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 PM CST reply actions
I was wondering that too
The guy is a machine.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
I think Mr. Hake believes he will be gone long before The Chiefs pick
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
I believe he isn't a 3-4 LB'er.
He is only 235 lbs and he needs a strong d line to keep blockers off of him. He might make it as a WILB but he definitely is not a SILB that can take on the blocker, shed him, and make the tackle in the hole.
by Jonathan Hake on Nov 11, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
I see, said the blind man.................
………is that the same thing with Skov from Stanford?
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
Skov has solid size for a 3-4 defense
but his injured knee has caused him to announce already that he will be back next season.
by Jonathan Hake on Nov 12, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
Are you really Mel Kipper in disguise?...lol great info my friend.
…………….Stanford is missing him badly tonite!
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
Haha negative but really Kiper isn't very good.
Gosselin and Mayock are pretty good though.
by Jonathan Hake on Nov 12, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
He's not the best at shedding blockers
But I think he’d succeed much better in Belcher’s role then Belcher is now, not that that is saying much.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Nov 13, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
32.5 tackles for loss 6 int's in his career
And he still has 4 games to go
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Nov 10, 2011 3:20 PM CST reply actions
We definitely need more speed at that position
Belcher rarely makes a play at the line of scrimmage and misses 3 or 4 tackles damn near every game it seems. Horrible open field tackler and has the speed of a 43 defensive end, I’d hate to see him on the team next season.
I like Burfict'sstrength and athleticism,
but he seems to have a problem with over pursuing the ball carrier and it seems like he gets quite a few personal foul calls.
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It's pronouced: too much of a head case
"Ole' Curtis Lowe was the finest picker, to ever play the blues."
Hmmm?
The “T” must be silent.
by craig in calgary on Nov 10, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Lmao..
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