Le'Ron McClain Gets To Keep His Touchdown
by Joel Thorman on Oct 29, 2011 9:30 AM CDT
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I'm a couple days late with this one but Le'Ron McClain's touchdown in last weekend's game against the Oakland Raiders will remain Le'Ron McClain's touchdown.
Let's go back to the play so you know why we have to mention that he keeps his touchdown.
After Dwayne Bowe's first quarter touchdown was reversed by the replay officials, and Richard Seymour got a five-yard penalty, the Chiefs had a first and goal from the one-yard line. McClain took a carry to the right side of the offensive line and replays showed that before he crossed the goal line, he lost control of the ball and it went spilling into the end zone. Ultimately, Jon Asamoah recovered the ball but the refs ruled that it wasn't a fumble and the touchdown belonged to McClain.
The league goes back and does stat corrections each week but did not put up a correction for this play.
That means McClain keeps his touchdown and Asamoah is denied the first six points of his career.
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Was that a fourth down play? If it was, I thought that the old rule was that you could not
advance a fumble into the end zone. Is this still correct and then the Chief’s would have lost this one TD? Immaterial now but just wondering?
It was a first down play
Remember, it was the play after DBowe’s TD go reversed.
by jakeakabigdub on Oct 29, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
If these are the same guys reviewing every touchdown as they happen on Sundays that would explain why the execution of this new rule has been so awful.
How do you not correct that play?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 29, 2011 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't think they could change this one
Since you can’t advance on a fumble into the endzone, Asamoah couldn’t have the TD. Also, since the NFL does not change the scores of games after the fact (wouldn’t make sense after the fact given down and situation, etc), the only option was to leave the TD with McClain.
by VermeilLikesToCry on Oct 29, 2011 11:15 AM CDT reply actions
I think the rule is you can't advance it on 4th down or within a certain amount of time before the half/end of the game.
Going to check the rule book on that one though. Also they wouldnt have needed to change the score because the Chiefs recovered it. I cant remember but was there a review of this play in the game? If not there should’ve been and the TD shouldve been given to asamoah by the ref.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 29, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
If they gave it to Asamoah...
they’d have had to give it to Oakland, if they had recovered. Since that couldn’t happen, it makes sense that they let the play stand as called.
does it? Had oakland recovered its a touchback, we recovered it...which is the same as recovering any fumble....
imo , should have been an asamoah td
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
absolutely correct!
It was a horrible call. You cannot score a touchdown without crossing the goal line. No way McClain should get credit for that TD. Absolutely illogical and illegal. Next time, why don’t we just award TD’s to running backs that cross the 50 yard line? Preposterous. Asamoah scored that TD, no matter what the NFL says.
To give it to Asamoah, though, would deny the Chiefs a TD on that play, period, though.
At least I think.
would of ≠ would've
I don't THINK the down or clock matters. Simply, the offense can't advance the ball on a fumble, I thought.
Someone finds out different, lemme know.
would of ≠ would've
But if my take is correct, that TD play isn't the only one that the league got wrong.
Seems like I’ve seen a few fumbles that advanced the ball this season.
would of ≠ would've
I thought that was only if the D didn't touch it.
Since it bounced around, and touched an Oakland player or two, it wouldn’t matter who recovered it or where.
But then again, I’m not 100% on that either.
Well I know that the rule is not
that you cannot advance a fumbled ball ever. There’s a play called the fumblerooskie, and I’ve seen the Chargers use it..
by bamachief5558 on Oct 29, 2011 7:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
is that advancing it though? it wasnt an advance on purpose, he didnt throw it forward
I could have sworn that you can recover a fumble in the end zone
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
That only applies in the final 2 min
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by saints_chiefsfan1979 on Oct 29, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like someone in the league office had McClain starting on their fantasy team.
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by saskwatch on Oct 29, 2011 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I am confused.
Had we not fallen on that football, and say the raiders got it, they would have challenged the mcclain TD, I really really would love a ref to look us all in the eye and say he wouldnt overturn that mcclain td and give the raiders a touchback.
Asamoah got screwed out of a TD IMO.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
McClain broke the plane
but the ball clearly didn’t.
by misterbrain on Oct 29, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just looked it up on the NFL website.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/fumble
According to this, it only matters on 4th down and in the last two minutes of each half. Since neither was the case, it should have been credited to Asamoah.
Even McClain says he thought the touchdown was Asamoah's
"It should be Jon’s (touchdown)," McClain admitted. "Jon made a great play. I thought that the ball came out before I crossed. Hopefully on Monday I can get in there without Jon having to jump on it."
At least McClain says that maybe they can share it hahaha.
Also, wasn’t the penalty against Seymour like a 3 inch offsides penalty? It was so close after the overturn of the Bowe touchdown that it was definitely half distance to the goal. I think I remember the announcers saying that it was the shortest penalty they’ve seen (IIRC).
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somehow we actually lost yardage
because Bowes play should have placed us right on the goal line however they placed it at the 6inch mark or so
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