Chiefs Vs. Raiders: The Best And The Worst
Yo, what up Black Hole?!?
What a joyous 3.5 hours of existence that Kansas City Chiefs game was. Even the preseason-esque fourth quarter was entertaining because of the chance of a fight breaking out at any moment. And seriously, does anybody celebrate a 12-yard reception down 28-0 quite like the Oakland Raiders? Do they even have the intellectual capital (to borrow a term from Sports Guy, who called this Chiefs-Raiders duel the "game of the year") to understand why that is so embarrassing? I'd like to ask a knowledgeable Raiders fan but….
Best postgame quote - "That's between me and him. We get to play 'em again." - Hue Jackson on what was said between he and Chiefs head coach Todd Haley.
Them's fightin' words right there. And that's a great thing. Haley did his very best to amp up this rivalry once again when he dialed up that deep toss to Dwayne Bowe with the game long over (who out there buys that it was actually Matt Cassel's audible?). Good. Chiefs-Raiders shouldn't be about mutual respect. It should be about hatred. It should be about a 20 player scuffle before the game. It should be about 24 penalties, including a combined six personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct infractions. It should be about taunting the other team's fans by striking a pose (Bowe seeking out The Black Hole was priceless). And if one team reduces themselves to cheap, dirty tactics, then you damn well should send a message by trying to run up the score. That's what rivalries are all about. And that's why I think it is the…
Best rivalry in the NFL - Kansas City Chiefs & Oakland Raiders. (And I could not be more self-satisfyingly biased in saying so.)
Lets boogie…
The Best and Worst w/ His Dirkness:
Best way to cover up shaky coaching decisions - Win 28-0. Look I'm a huge Todd Haley fan, but yesterday was not his brightest day in the sun. As I tweeted out exactly 482 times yesterday, Haley simply refused to hand the ball off to Jackie Battle in the first half. While Thomas Jones got four first half carries (eight yards) and Dexter McCluster got five (13 yards - mostly on meaningless draws), Battle received only three carries (11 yards - huge numbers right?). You could tell it was there though. I was literally screaming at my TV on each offensive possession to RUN BATTLE (we'll call those 'Battle Cries'). And make no mistake, despite the lopsided outcome of this game, that was not a pretty offensive performance. However, to Haley's credit (an understatement), he made the necessary halftime adjustments, as has been the case in all of the Chiefs' three game winning streak, and handed the rock to Jackie 'don't call me Julian' Battle in the second half.
Worst time to channel Gary Pinkel - On the three inch line. I don't necessarily blame the LeRon McClain fumble into the end zone on all the pre-snap shifting, but why are they doing it? Even if you cause the defense to jump offsides with the excessive movement (which happened), you're only gaining three inches (maybe the closest I've ever seen the ball to the goalline). Just line up and pound it in there. Think I'm being nitpicky yet? Well, I also didn't like running Safe-Dex on a third and one, Haley calling a timeout on defense at the end of the first half and then trotting out his nickel defense for third and one, or the passive-aggressive attempt to go for points before halftime (either go for it or don't, but don't take the risk of half-heartedly going for it).
Best reminder - Did I mention that I love Todd Haley? His ability to get this team to bounce back after their 0-3 start trumps any problem I had with him in this game twenty times over. His players love him, he loves his players and I love his homeless man's swag.
Best bet on the postgame interaction between Haley and Baby Huey Jackson: "That was a bush League move my man (points)." Haley: "(walking away) Yeah, thanks for the lecture."
Worst term that people actually use - "Handshake-gate." Don't be that guy.
Worst Monday morning news - Rich Baldinger claiming on Danny Parkins' show that it would take a playoff victory THIS YEAR for Haley to keep his job. That. Is. Absurd. The players love Haley. The fans side with Haley over Scott Pioli right now. Pioli would lose this team and this city if Baldinger's prediction comes to fruition. In fact, this is so preposterous that I choose not to believe it.
Worst way to handle the Raiders QB decision - Be indecisive. There was a good debate brewing last week about whether the Raiders should start Carson Palmer on six days with the team or Kyle Boller (who, coincidentally, has Kyle Boller's disease). Everybody was led to believe Palmer was going to start early in the week, but then news came it would be Boller instead (who said he only learned of the fact on Saturday), which I believe led to a letdown effect with the Raiders team. They were pumped to play for the new guy, not so much for the QB with a career 69.5 QB Rating. Wag your finger at that, Huey.
Best rule I've never heard of - A man in motion must stop for one full second before he can legally take the snap. Next play? Kendrick Lewis (who has responded nicely to a slow start on the season) to the house.
Best way to satisfy a Nebraska fan - Run the flexbone offense. I kept waiting for Matt Cassel to get to the perimeter and see if he could finally make that pitch.
Best sign for the future of this team - The offensive and defensive line's dominance. The Raiders pride themselves on being the most physical team in the NFL. They intend to intimidate the other team into submission each and every week. Well, it was the Raiders who were tapping out by the third quarter, and that began and ended with the big uglies. I had to check the stats after the game to make sure Richard Seymour even played (he did). We didn't hear Barry Richardson's name all day (which is great news for an offensive tackle). Tyson Jackson forced a sack (and then threw a hissy fit when Kelly Gregg stole his credit). And the Raiders' rushing total was terrifically misleading. They were enhanced by Boller's scrambles, and when they needed to get one yard they couldn't. Speaking of which…
Best sequence of individual plays on the season - Derrick Johnson on the Oakland Raiders' goal-to-go situation in the second quarter (biggest plays of the game). My god. I'm not one of those guys who likes to say Beast mode, but BEAST MODE! DJ made all four tackles on Michael Bush and is playing like a Pro Bowler this season. I have to credit Haley for it, who I believe saw the talent in him when he got to town but not the fire. His solution? Bench him for an entire season. Publicly humiliate him by playing him behind Corey Mays for an ENTIRE SEASON (how insane does that seem now?). For the record, Haley pulled a similar move on Bowe to great success, and might now be applying that method of madness to Jonny Baldwin.
Best individual matchup of the game - Dustin Colquitt vs. Shane Lechler. And Colquitt took him behind the woodshed!
Best retribution - Jalil Brown. Huge special teams gaffe last week, huge special teams play this week.
Best surprise of the season - The emergence of the wide receivers, specifically Steve Breaston. I love Steve Breaston. The dude is creative, almost artistic, in his ability to pick up YAC (yards after the catch) and reach the sticks. He has been awesome. Not quite Tim Tebow against a prevent defense awesome, but awesome nonetheless.
Best cycle of life - Brandon Flowers from last year's game in Oakland to yesterday's game. Before B-Flow gets beat by Jacoby Ford in overtime last season, he was a Top 5 NFL CB. Since then, he's been in a bit of a funk (aided by some injuries). So how does he respond back in the same surroundings? With one of his best games as a professional. That was one of the quickest jumps of a stop route I have ever witnessed. Throw in another pick and three pass deflections, and serve me, a critic of his this season, a healthy plate of crow.
Best background for your desktop - This.
Best name for Kansas City's beard movement - "Grow it 'till we blow it" courtesy of Ransom_. I'm expecting to see a lot of werewolvian costumes out at Arrowhead next Monday Night. I'll be going as Teen Wolf without dressing up at all.
Remember to be as loud as possible if you're attending the game next week. One of my favorite aspects of sports is that you, the fan, can actually serve an impact on your team's success. Think of how awesome that fact is before you head out to Arrowhead next week. Lets recreate last season's magical win. Go Chiefs!
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Nice job.................
wonder if there will be a full moon at Arrowhead next Monday………………..
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Funny you ask...
Because I looked it up. Believe me you would’ve known if it were but it’s basically a new moon that night. Oh well…
former chief............
works with kctv5 during the preseason
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thanks
Must of been before my time. Hes catchin some heat after that dumass comment.
by chiefnation on Oct 24, 2011 6:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He announces area HS games and much to my disappointment he now does D2 games (MIAA) which makes them unwatchable.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
Rich Baldinger, never heard anyone call him Dick, but i guess thats short for Richard so...lol
He’s a freaking kook. Talks all tough which I like but then says crazy shit that makes you shake your head. Stuff like that. I heard them saying the same crap on 610 radio about 4 hours before the game when I was in the garage working on the benches that are going in the Chiefs bus that we’re going to MNF in. Can’t wait!!!
by Chiefs08Matt on Oct 24, 2011 10:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Drive by fist bump
Congrats on winning three straight Chef’s fans.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Thanks Leonuro
How’s Stafford? Hate to see him get hurt, but at least it’s just an ankle and not shoulder.. and it doesn’t sound super bad.
by Ochophosphate on Oct 24, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He's listed as day to day.
I expect to see him out there on Sunday. Maybe Hill comes in if we get a lead. I’m less concerned about his ankle than I am with his energy level.
Its nice to see the Chef’s playing some good football again. My question is, is the beard because of the wins, or are the wins because of the beard?
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Just remember:
Growing the beard is only step one. To truly be feared, you must also grow that beard on the inside.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Much obliged
Apparently our guys just needed an early season ass stomping or two to kick them into winning shape.
We Don't Hear The Hate
I'm hoping
that’s what we needed as well. A couple losses to get our minds right and focus on football.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I hope Stafford is ok man. You guys deserve a winner in town, props to you guys, you'll bounce back!
"In my experience, there is no such thing as luck."
"It's not always going to be pretty; and that's alright..."
Thanks man.
You guys deserve a winner in town
That’s what the Red Wings are for.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
awesome...
The pic of Flowers flexing is awesome.. seeing all of those raider fans giving him the beard. hahaha. suck it Raiders!
the beard is fitting
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Oct 24, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Notice the little girl in the front row...her little bird is flying as well
Such a classy town.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
If you can count the number of bird's in that pic
I’ll give you 5 internets.
…and for a bonus, if you accurately count the number of beards, I’ll award you one beer glove.
by Ochophosphate on Oct 24, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Great piece
I got to watch it in person. Flowers was a STUD!
by captaincrunchBERRYandR on Oct 24, 2011 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
the so called experts....
were predicting the rest of green bays schedule…they came to the chiefs and started kinda laughing…said KC is getting better but they aren’t going to get that much better…still no love
you know what pisses me off about the "experts"
Chiefs have won 3 straight games, including a shutout of a division rival….and according to the “experts” the Chiefs are still horrible…..Tebow plays well for 3 minutes, and he is a hero. I am so sick of hearing about Tebow. 18.2 QBR…….and he is the best thing to ever happen in Denver..haha!
Unfortunately
We’d better get used to it. I’m cool with it though, because he is somebody I can really get behind cheering against.
yeah, nfl network isn't allowed in my house for a few weeks....
not that I have ever been crazy about those guys, but the tebow thing kinda put me over the edge. Don’t get me wrong…..I am going to love playing against Tebow. He is so one dimensional that it shouldn’t be hard to prepare for him defensively. I just can’t wait for the Lions to prove it.
Experts picked the 49'ers and the Chargers to be in the Super Bowl last year
I give slightly less than a fraction of a single solitary shit about what experts think.
We Don't Hear The Hate
Best post-game writeup
Dirk. Every time. and I’m man enough to admit it…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Hey, you've been bringing some serious thunder with these posts
They’ve tapped you for contributor at this point, yes?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Oct 25, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed... I love this
and it’s long, but it’s in small chunks, easy to digest – the ADD dream
Slid right in there with “stuff I look forward to reading after our games” – along with Bewsaf’s and Kalo’s…
ahem… hey Kalo, where are the breakdowns? How am I supposed to know who has the best KPM this season?
by Ochophosphate on Oct 24, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I swear
Derrick Johnson must have pressed up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-b-a before the game. He had an unreal performance.
by wustl_chiefs_fan on Oct 24, 2011 6:09 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
You can tell whether a guy had friends when he was little by how he recites the Contra code...
;-)
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Oct 24, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had to post this...............

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by LadyChief on Oct 24, 2011 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
So, Dirk
when is the next board meeting?
And I’ve got another “best”. Best first rushing attempt this season, Javier Arenas. Best second rushing attempt of his carrier, Javier Arenas.
That pic of Flowers is classic!! ahahhhahaaha one of the best pics ever!!
Suck on it faiders!! Chiefs all day baby!!
by Chiefsallday25 on Oct 24, 2011 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Love how they giving him the bird
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.
CHIEFS WILL!
by NJChieffan16 on Oct 24, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I just counted 28.
28 fingers. not 28 people giving the finger. Flowers is my fucking hero. And that was my first use of the F word on AP.
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
John Madden 1975 Chiefs-42 Raiders-10
Bad habit!
Probably best we all tone back on the cursing.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 24, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's Ok for HIV2Elway to make jokes about a missing infant.
I use the F word one time and i’m called out. Like you said, Raider week.
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
John Madden 1975 Chiefs-42 Raiders-10
Great Stuff his dirkness
Best: Kendrick Lewis doing his best “Uric” Berry impersonation.
Worst: Listening to the announcer’s try and be positive about the Chiefs when they have no choice.
Very best… Winning in Indy for the first time ever in dramatic big time comeback faishion, only to follow it up by shutting out the Raiders in the biggest game of 2011 so far.
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Oct 24, 2011 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
I loved this post but this was my favorite of all
“Remember to be as loud as possible if you’re attending the game next week. One of my favorite aspects of sports is that you, the fan, can actually serve an impact on your team’s success. Think of how awesome that fact is before you head out to Arrowhead next week. Lets recreate last season’s magical win. Go Chiefs!”
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
John Madden 1975 Chiefs-42 Raiders-10
by Chiefs_40 on Oct 24, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I missed this.
Tyson Jackson forced a sack (and then threw a hissy fit when Kelly Gregg stole his credit
Not that I’m doubting you, but is there video/audio/transcript of this? I was still jumping around yelling when this happened to notice what happened after.
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
I'd guess the 2nd quarter
Tyson blew by his man forcing Boller to step up right into Gregg. And then Tyson started shaking his fists cause he let him get away. He’s probably feeling the heat from the city and thinks he needs results to prove everybody wrong, but man he’s been playing very good the past 3-4 weeks.
If you recorded it
it’s at the 1:07 mark on your recorder. I watched it a few times today.
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
John Madden 1975 Chiefs-42 Raiders-10
WORST: 1 sack
We’re averaging a healthy 1 sack per game (6 on the year), on pace for 16 sacks on the year. But the good news is Tamba’s also on pace for at least 10!
Yea that ain't good enough
I’m not exactly sure where my boy Wallace Gilberry has been this year. However, a lot of this can be attributed to not playing with a lead much on the season.
He gaied weight because he wanted to be a full-time 3-4 end
It has backfired, and I knew it would!
I think Thomas Jones would have better success in Bodybuilder competitions than he is havin right now in the NFL!
by LookListenLearn on Oct 24, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I call that Ron Dayne's syndrome
after when he thought it was a good idea to lose weight so he’d be a quicker running back. Nope, you were good because you were fat Ron.
Nice:
I was literally screaming at my TV on each offensive possession to RUN BATTLE (we’ll call those ‘Battle Cries’).
I have 2 thoughts on this:
Even if you cause the defense to jump offsides with the excessive movement (which happened), you’re only gaining three inches (maybe the closest I’ve ever seen the ball to the goalline).
Either:
A) They were just fucking with the Raiders because they could. And it is hilarious to embarrass them whenever possible. Seriously, I bet those posers dream of yellow flags flying at them.
or
B) Haley was giving a big eff you and protesting to the refs that they gypped us on 5 inches.
Both are silly I know, but that’s all I got.
I think "C" is pretty obvious
Had we been occasionally running the ball up the middle with success? Yes
Did we also have multiple running plays the had lost yardage because we let the Raiders hang out in our backfield? Yes
The trick was a classic one to which the EP is well suited. With a certain personnel grouping you can go from jumbo to 3 wide and still have legitimate receiving targets. I’m almost certain they didn’t want to risk an all-or-nothing dive into the teeth of that defensive line, so they made Oakland go big and slow but then confused the Raiders by shifting, and then ran just to the outside against a big, slow, and less numerous (because of the shift) Raiders D-line
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Oct 24, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
a thinking fan...
Oakland could use one.
by neiowakcfan on Oct 24, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Worst "media" analysis if the confrontation between Haley and Jackson....
Yahoo Sports who found a way to pin it on Haley and claim he needs to brush up on his post-game handshake etiquette. It’s funny because I’m pretty sure Haley is the homeless looking white guy who just shook the other coaches hand and continues walking.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
that's a college course in sports management I'm sure
12 weeks of practicing handshakes. with a thesis required at the end.
by 1kmilesfromkc on Oct 24, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Shows how much the national media is in love with the raiders.
At the end of the article they said “based on Jacksons statement, and Haleys history, i’m sure the fault lies more on the Kansas city side”. They just can’t stand that their beloved raiders got their asses kicked. Too funny
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
John Madden 1975 Chiefs-42 Raiders-10
If by following NFL protocol and no more
means Haley perpetrated some act, you can slap me silly and call me sally.
That handshakes is a classic example of awesome. I love cold shoulder encounters. I try to practice on a daily basis, and this was excellence.
"The essence of greatness is the perception that virtue is enough." -RWE
"To want to prohibit a man from error is to forbid him to fulfill his own existence..."
-Simone de Beauvoir
by KC Conundrum on Oct 24, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Haley is just showing his guys that the rivalry is still there...
He doesn’t speak to the enemy but does what is required by his position, shake hands, keep mouth shut, move on.
nice read as usual
I have decided I might as well just go as Haley for Halloween. The beard is already growing full force, and I have a dingy hoodie and Chiefs hat. Perfect solution.
I'd try that this year in Nashville
Except people would that I was homeless.
Or a musician.
Same thing.
We Don't Hear The Hate
I would have to add a new worst
those cry babies & excuse makers over at sliver & blank pride. Forgetting we’re playing without 2 pro bowlers & a starter & it was “a fluke”
I don't believe a word Rich "convicted manslaughter" Baldinger leaks out of that hot-air-filled head of his.
I believe it was drunken driving….could be wrong
"The essence of greatness is the perception that virtue is enough." -RWE
"To want to prohibit a man from error is to forbid him to fulfill his own existence..."
-Simone de Beauvoir
Nice article!
Re: Illegal Shift
The one second wait is only needed if more than 1 player is in motion at the same time.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 24, 2011 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Really?
See I thought Pryor was the only man in motion and the ref made it sound like it was a rule I was completely unaware of.
he has to stop.......
one guy in motion -has to stop or else he would be moving forward at the time of the snap which would be illegal motion/procedure which was called
two guys- both must stop for a second then one can go back in motion or you can snap the ball- you can only have one man in motion at the time of snap
by Family Chief on Oct 24, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
to explain a little more..
Pryor was headed to the line of scrimmage at the time of snap that his why he needed to stop
by Family Chief on Oct 24, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
So its because he was moving forward?
So if he cuts the angle tighter on the motion it would be legal?
Rec
For obscure knowledge.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Oct 25, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
they said it was because he TOOK the snap...not b/c of multiple people shifting...
the tv announcers said that they “got word from the officals” and that was the reason it was called.
Nice work!
As usual, good reading. I have to find a picture of DBowe getting showered with “love” after he thought he made a TD and flexed in front of the black hole. Man “stuff” was flying!
You Play to Win the game!!!
this is awesome though

meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Oct 24, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lots of ones like that




meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Oct 24, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man "stuff" was flying!
meh...
@w_a_watts
by Chief-blinders-on on Oct 24, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I laughed my ass off!!
The VERY BEST desktop wall paper screen saver! Cannot count how many people were giving him the bird! Love it!
"Stay Classy Kansas City"
by Mas Cervezas on Oct 24, 2011 7:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It will be my wall paper for the rest of my life
"We couldn't beat the Chiefs, but we damn near killed their horse"
John Madden 1975 Chiefs-42 Raiders-10
i would use it but my monitor is HUGE...
and the picture is too small…i like my pics to take up the whole screen not have a boarder…ya i’m THAT guy…
Well done bud
Breaston is catching everything in his vicinity and Bowe is a bonafide superstar.
You forgot one best though, watching and listening to Mike Mitchell and Aaron Curry try and upstage one anothers’ screams after every play.
Twitter - @bkissel7
had clips of it too
probably won’t use those though.
Will use one of DBowe getting cheap-shotted and just going back to the huddle and not falling for their BS. That was a focused dude on Sunday.
Twitter - @bkissel7
I thought I heard you screaming with me!
I was literally screaming at my TV on each offensive possession to RUN BATTLE (we’ll call those ‘Battle Cries’).
I alternated between that and WTF’s…with a few “it’s not working with Dex, run Battle dammit!” thrown in…
I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...
Deja'vu.............
he did the same thing with 2.7
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I also decided to join the "Grow it 'til we blow it" movement a few weeks ago
It’s getting pretty shaggy, but I’m damn glad it’s still there.
Just be glad you can grow a beard, friend
Some of us ar 26 with 3 kids and still look like we haven’t hit puberty with the pathetic excuse for a ’stache we can manage…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Oct 25, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm 19, and I can grow facial hair in all of the usual places EXCEPT a mustache
it’s pretty annoying. Anyway, I think I’m going to have to start combing the beard soon because it’s getting pretty long



























