Vikings at Chiefs: What I Saw

by Casey Byron Adkins on Oct 2, 2011 10:38 PM CDT

From the FanPosts -Joel

It feels good to not have to say "Another game, another loss" for once. The win was sloppy but, hey, we got it done.

My thoughts...

Injury? What injury?- While Brandon Flowers looked slower than normal, he looked to be in tip top shape. Had I not known he had that injury last week, I would not have noticed it at all. This was the same injury that took the fire from Dex last season.
Mr. Irrelevant just got the fire turned down- After last week, I wanted Ryan Succop's head on my wall. I was impressed with his play today. He missed a key FG last week from 38 yards and seemed to take what he said to the media to the field. Three of the five he made were 40 or more, including a 54 yarder that made my jaw drop.
Rocket Man- That is my nickname for Dustin Colquitt. Just when you thought the Vikings were going to get good field position, he launched a rocket that pinned them inside the 15. Punters are SO underrated as they can really make or break a game.

The Optimist- Le'Ron McClain went in there and broke up the battle between Matt Cassel and Todd Haley. This guy is a class act and has done his job with no complaints. Every time the Chiefs get down, he picks everyone back up. With Thomas Jones being about done, we could use a guy like him. We have Jackie Battle but this guy is just on another level.

All Day?- Even though my fantasy team took a hit with him not getting far, I was happy to see them practically shut down Adrian Peterson. All Day got under 100 yards rushing. Kudos to DJ to holding his own. I was scared that AP would have a big day.

Tamba Assault Continues- Tamba Hali made Donovan's day miserable. Tamba got two sacks but came close another five times. McNabb was throwing the ball many times as he was getting taken down. He may not be #58 but he showed spurts of being the next DT for the Chiefs. It may have been a contract year last year but he is not the "WR that shall not be named."

Whatever Haley did to Matt, keep on- After McClain broke that fight up, Matt Cassel played like he did last year. He had a beautiful 52 yard TD pass to Bowe and put up 260 yards on the day. Most of those in the second half.

WTF happened to the D- Towards the end of the game, the defense looked like it ran out of gas. Brandon Flowers, I can understand, but the defense had plenty of time to rest up throughout the game. Made no sense.

Tight Ends- No matter how hard we try, without Eric Berry the tight ends are killing us. They could have thrown to Visanthe Shiancoe the whole game. It is time to work on that as they have to deal with Dallas Clark next week.

Improvement- This team has improved ever since the end of the first half against the Chargers. While I do not see the Chiefs winning the division, I see them going 7-9 or 8-8 this season barring any major injuries. We get a Colts team that are throwing the season for Luck (yes I said it) and then the bye week. KC ain't getting Andrew Luck. We may draft a QB but it ain't going to be Luck, Barkley or Landry. That guy I hear all the time about is a possibility.

I grade the Chiefs performance a solid B+. Yes KC faced a winless team but that team was more than capable of winning any of those first three games. The Vikings will be the Bills of this year. Better than their record shows.

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Nice writeup

One thing about the defense being gassed, we don’t have enough depth to contend with an offense that spreads itself out.

With berry and McGraw out our DBs are really suffering. Add in the fact that 24 wasn’t full speed I can completely understand why we slowed down. I still think they did a great job under the circumstances.

by SoCalChief17 on Oct 2, 2011 11:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

Lucky for us Gates never plays

Is that guy ever healthy? You always hear about how great he is but I never see him on the field.

by jboot1 on Oct 2, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions

McGraw

It’s no coincidence that our defense has improved since the McGraw injury. He is not an NFL level player, on the run or pass.

Lots of people are noting that TEs are ripping the chiefs apart. If you look around the league TEs are ripping every defense apart. Passing yards are up all across the league to boot.

by EpiloguE on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions

Yeah New England have been using their TE's and Slot WR to absolutely Murderize people.

We Don't Hear The Hate

by TRSChief on Oct 3, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree with this but

Even with Berry, we suck against TEs. We have absolutely no answer for them.

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.

CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Oct 2, 2011 11:13 PM CDT reply actions

Yep thats what I was thinking

Berry didnt do good against them last year either.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 3, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions

That punt was un-effing-real

Looked like they were going to get good field position after shutting us down and Colquitt just said “Screw that!”

by jboot1 on Oct 2, 2011 11:13 PM CDT reply actions

I think the Russians went crazy thinking it was a launch. That thing looked like it was heading for orbit.

2011: The Year of the CHIEFS.

by Salva on Oct 2, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions

hes just so darn good

hes like a madden “slider” or something. hes on accurate most of the time because he is the best at pinning teams inside their own 20

then when we need a long punt, he turns the slider to “power” and knocks one 60 plus yards. and hes thought of as a punter without a strong leg. Ha. He may not be shane lechler, but shane lechler cant put the ball inside the 20 like dustin colquitt

btw…..as much as we need to give bowe a new deal, colquitt is at the top of my list

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Oct 2, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions

its amazing what Colguitt can do when he doesn't have to punt 8 times per game :)

just three yesterday

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 3, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, we never think about a punter getting tired...

But that may strain the leg at a certain point…

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Thanks Joel

That Colquitt punt was beautiful. He basically said, “Alright guys, you want momentum, I will give you momentum.” He sent that SOB easily 50-100 into the air. If that had been a Corner Coffin, I would have exploded.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Oct 2, 2011 11:35 PM CDT reply actions

Congrats on the front page BTW.

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Oct 2, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks

Also can someone get me a video of that punt. I know it is just a punt but DAMN was that the game changer.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Oct 2, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions

NFL.com would be the best bet I think

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Oct 2, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions

I know

that some people get videos from the game.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Oct 2, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions

http://www.kcchiefsgames.com/

games are completely uploaded there

Sorry if posting this is against some copyright law or something but we know we all go here so…

by Lucasjr5 on Oct 2, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions

actually i just checked and they don't have this seasons yet

last year they kept it up to date but the last couple games haven’t been ones to watch so I haven’t checked it till now :p so sorry out of luck there for now

by Lucasjr5 on Oct 2, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions

2 things

I said all along the Succop hate was ridiculous and ALL kickers go through stretches where they miss. He was 2 of 5 in 3 games and I saw people say to cut him. He missed 3 kicks. THREE! So to all who said that (including the guy who said “Pioli you are a joke, go use some money to find a real kicker”, you sir are an idiot) you should be ashamed of yourselves for so completely overreacting. Man up and eat it, you all were WRONG. I GUARANTEE Succop will hit 80% this season. /endrant

Second point. Our secondary is terrible. The corners are good but without good safeties and linebackers who know how to cover we are destined to be exploited through the air every single game. Good safeties also should help a lot stopping the run, but thankfully the Chiefs did not seem to have a huge problem with that today so I still think the problems are concentrated in the secondary and that will be an Achilles heel most likely all year long. Without Eric Berry the secondary just is not the same.

While most of the Chiefs problems are blamed on the offense, the secondary will end up losing us more games in the long run.

I’m glad this game was watchable and I’m glad Matt Cassel looked like a NFL QB at times. Overall I’m just glad we got a win.

by Lucasjr5 on Oct 2, 2011 11:54 PM CDT reply actions

Before this year Succop was 42-45 on field goals under 50 yards

That 93% accuracy, I’ll take that from a kicker without complaint. This year he started our rougher but he’ll get it togther.

Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Oct 3, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions

How was he doing from 50 yards and more?

Live Adventure!

by MountainManMike on Oct 3, 2011 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions

your right lets go back to "right foot in the grave, left foot kicking field goals" morton andersen who couldn't even hit a 50 yarder when he played for us

The Chiefs have an excellent kicker and no one has any factual reason to complain about him.

by Lucasjr5 on Oct 3, 2011 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Not being able to kick a 50+ yarder is a big deal...

when you offense has trouble moving the ball past the 40. Hopefully, he has turned the corner.

Live Adventure!

by MountainManMike on Oct 3, 2011 3:42 AM CDT up reply actions

I think the NFL average for kicks over 50 yards is just over 50%

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Easy, Trigger

The rant on Succop could yet come back to bite you. This was only one game. Time will tell.

by SCKSChief on Oct 3, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Amen

Overreacting to this game is just as bad as overreacting to the first 3. Worse, actually, since the first 3 were a larger sample.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions

Agree

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by LadyChief on Oct 3, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions

actually...

it was the same sample… 5 kicks.

People over reacted over 5 kicks, 5 kicks later happened to all be in the next game but he was perfect. He took his percentage from 40% to 70% in one game a quarter of the season in and the entire offense was horrible for the first 2 weeks including him.

by Lucasjr5 on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions

he broke the rookie record for accuracy for the Chiefs his rookie season

I mean COME ON!

by Lucasjr5 on Oct 3, 2011 12:05 AM CDT reply actions

Is that you Ryan?

Faithless is he who says farewell when the road darkens...

by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 3, 2011 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions

Is this me?

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Oct 3, 2011 5:45 AM CDT up reply actions

'What I saw'

The end of the SUCK4LUCK talk this week

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 3, 2011 6:04 AM CDT reply actions

Doubt it

The Vikings are terrible, beating them doesn’t mean we’re “out of the race” just yet.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Oct 3, 2011 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions

That's why I said this week

ATM we are 1-3 and out of the race

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 3, 2011 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions

1 win and 3 losses doesn't put us out of the race...

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Oct 3, 2011 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions

The Vikings are not terrible

They have a good QB, one of the best RB’s in the league, and at least 3 serious weapons in the passing game.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions

I would lean toward terrible

They aren’t good. KC isn’t exactly a world-beater and Minnesota did squat against either side of the ball.

Wait and see. I’m sure they are not very good. And, while I’m glad to see the Chiefs win a game, I’m not still have doubts about our potential for success this year either.

by SCKSChief on Oct 3, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions

They've got a decent defense

And they’ve been leading in every game (including against a team that pounded us).

They’re not good, but they’re not Miami or IND.

And their D is pretty legit. I’d say this was Cassel’s best performance against a decent defense.

All that said… they’re 0-4. So yeah, they’re likely not that good.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions

they have a decent defensive line, wouldn't give them any more than that

As soon as Cassel showed he could pass the ball a little bit the defense fell of greatly. Their strength is their pass rush and once that was slowed their defense looked very average.

I agree they aren’t worse than Miami or Indy or Seattle maybe not even St Louis who is looking awful right now.

by Lucasjr5 on Oct 3, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

What slowed their pass rush?

it certainly wasn’t our running game…

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Donovan McNabb is a good QB? Didn't see that today, or since 2009 actually.

The best RB in the league means jack squat if the OL can’t get it done on the ground. I don’t know what these three threats are, Harvin and? Shiancoe is declining and is only a threat because we can’t cover the TE. I like Rudolph, but he’s still a rookie and a back-up to boot.

They still have one of the worst OLs in the league, and a 2ndary that is just awful. There only saving grace is the DL, but it is quickly aging and can’t last the entire game like it used to. Their LBs can defend the run, but are also bad against the pass.

This team is 0-4 for a reason, its because they’re not a good football team anymore.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Oct 3, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions

I was rooting against McNabb

When he and TO were with Philly a few years ago and we had a 17 point lead at halftime, they came out and kicked our ass the second half and won. I and 76,000 other people were just stunned. I have left Arrowhead many a time after defeats but the silence that day was deafening.

thank you Chiefs for some McRedemption.

by stenerud's roost on Oct 3, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions

mcnabb is what, 4-12 as a starter since he "left" Philly? big deal.

by neiowakcfan on Oct 3, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Until we are tied for the worst record in the league again

we ARE out of the race.

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 3, 2011 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions

No we aren't

This race still has another 3 quarters to go.

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Oct 3, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions

The winless teams are in the race

We are not, can not see us trading up(due to the cost) so the race is for the #1 pick, which as of now we can not hold.

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 3, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Um, we could still go 9-7 and win the division

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions

We could still go 13-3

;)

I don't start arguments, I provoke thinking. -Me
Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 3, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Shut me down. I am actually getting excited about the team again

Come at me bro, and I will throw a 2 yard screen pass to my running back, come at me bro.

by Kblomfiee on Oct 3, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Good god I hope so

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by nateforchiefs on Oct 3, 2011 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions

A note on the defense's sudden loss of gas:

I think that one thing that hurt (though it didn’t, really), was the fact that the Chiefs had a 2-play scoring drive. It isn’t something that is typical of our offense, and so I’m thinking that our defense just didn’t get the rest they needed between series.

Just a thought, nothing more. Great write-up!

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by independent739 on Oct 3, 2011 7:30 AM CDT reply actions

Yeah

because usually they get 3 plays to rest before having to go back out!

Zing!

The Kansas City Chiefs, ruining playoff hopes since 2010

by mugglemage on Oct 3, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs

Lol This ^^^ !!!

by KCChef on Oct 3, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions

We get a Colts team that are throwing the season for Luck

I still don’t get fans who think the Colts would draft Luck. With the money they just threw at Peyton I still don’t believe there is any way they draft Luck.

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy ****... What a Ride!'

by tybme on Oct 3, 2011 9:16 AM CDT reply actions

yea because Peyton is in such good health, and is going to play another 15 years.

Who Wins Egomania this year, Egoli or Big Head Todd?

by Chiefsfanindonkeyland on Oct 3, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions

How does that refute the argument he just made?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Did they throw a ton of money at Peyton? Yes

Does that mean it would be a little odd to go “franchise QB” with their next pick? Yes

Are they more likely to try and build around Peyton for the next 4-5 years? probably

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions

That's assuming Payton lasts 4-5 yrs.

I am just saying if the Colts have the #1 pick, they would take Luck, to groom behind Peyton and have a #1 caliber QB for the next 15 years

Who Wins Egomania this year, Egoli or Big Head Todd?

by Chiefsfanindonkeyland on Oct 3, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions

The first is a good thought

The second, speculation.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't you think its odd

that Peyton signs a big contract, and then a month later has neck surgery?

I’ve been saying that was a conspiracy since it happened. Make no mistake, Luck will wear a horseshoe (fitting, huh?)

by cpa913 on Oct 3, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions

That would fit nicely

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 3, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Not trying to be sarcastic with this statement

How well do you think Peyton would take it if he saw his owner draft a young QB when he needs o-line help to keep him healthy, and defensive players to keep it from being a shoot out?

I could certainly be wrong but I just don’t see them targeting a QB except maybe as a back up and they aren’t going to pay 1st round money (even in the new system) for a back up.

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy ****... What a Ride!'

by tybme on Oct 3, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I think they would. Doesn't the first round pick get under 10 Mil?

Peyton is 35 with a neck injury. If the best prospect since Peyton Manning is sitting there, and you have the 1st pick in the draft, you take him. You either groom him for a couple years and start him, or start him right away. Makes perfect sense.

Come at me bro, and I will throw a 2 yard screen pass to my running back, come at me bro.

by Kblomfiee on Oct 3, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Nice game all well played and you deserve the win.

Good luck with the rest of your season I hope you all kick some serious butt!

I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass

by Grime on Oct 3, 2011 9:53 AM CDT reply actions

Thanks Grime

and likewise.

I was once fired from a job two days after I waited on Matt Cassel and his wife Lauren Killian. Totally my AP moment to remember. Unfortunately also one of my stupidest moments.

by Chiefs_swagger on Oct 3, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions