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I could do the entire line-by-line from that movie, but since everybody knows it, why waste my time and valuable space?  After all, we know that one thing I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever do is waste space with meaningless words.

The bye week.  That horrible week which gives us nothing interesting to discuss. Right?

WRONG!  We've now reached an absolutely pivotal point in our season.  We were humiliated in our first two games and looked like a genuine shot for 0-16.  We were then competitive against the Chargers and looked like we could at least not be a complete joke all year.  We beat the Vikings and looked to perhaps be capable of winning a game or two this year.  Then we came back from a big deficit against the Colts and showed that we may be able to win more than a game or two. 

What now?  Well, there are some questions regarding where we go from here, and I have the answers (also known as opinions, but I prefer not to think of them that way)...

Star-divide

Justin Houston and the mystifying start of Andy Studebaker

Oh Lord, here we are again.  Look, Justin Houston isn't perfect.  He's missed some tackles and at times struggled in coverage.  I get it.  And hey, I'm one of the many that has been SCREAMING for Houston to be rushing the passer on obvious passing downs, so I should be happy with the Colts game, right? 

Wrong.  Well, kind of wrong.  I was glad to see Houston rushing the passer.  And he looked all right doing it at times (although not nearly the life-alter force of nature I was secretly hoping for), or at least better than Cameron Sheffield or Andy Studebaker have looked when asked to do it.  So great (Ok, not great.  NO sacks?  Seriously?  I know they were keeping TEs and RBs back in protection all day, but STILL... not even one?)

Here's the problem though... just as they were finally putting him on the field in obvious passing situations, they were taking him OFF the field in running situations. And in his place... the man... the myth... the legend... the absolute SIEVE against the run... Andy Studebaker.

Now before you tell me all about how Houston missed a couple of tackles against the Vikings (which he did), let me stop you.  Seriously, don't even start.  Because although Houston needs to improve on wrapping up, he holds the edge.  And after watching Studebaker get driven back by TE's time after time (again, as if the preseason wasn't enough), hopefully you can see how important that is.

I did this for Wallace Gilberry, so I'll do it for Studebaker..  If Andy Studebaker was a wasp, a running play is a can of RAID.  Andy Studebaker is to a rushing attack what a piece of paper is to a paper shredder.  The reason Forrest Gump ran so far is that Andy Studebaker was the guy assigned to stop him.  If Andy Studebaker against the run was a car, he'd be a Mini Cooper.

Houston is a rookie, and is having his ups and downs.  But he belongs on the field. 

Jackie Battle

I TOLD everyone here that Battle had it in him!  You haters!  I always liked this guy, and absolutely saw it coming that he'd show up huge in a game by being the power back we've sorely lacked!  Man, I can't believe you idiots doubted me.  After all, who was the one defending him when everyone was saying, "Cut him, he's had almost half a decade to prove his worth and hasn't done so?"  That's right, it was... wait, what?  No way!  I was totally on his side!  You can't prove anything!  What do you mean you can search the archives of AP? 

Well, this is awkward. 

Hey, it doesn't MATTER who was right and who was wrong, right?  All that matters is that Battle made us look like a good running team again for a game.  And looked like he's maybe got it in him to do it again (if you haven't seen Clay's "Battle Axe'd" gif of Battle just plowing over some poor Colts defender, do yourself a favor and find it).  That's great news, because ol' TJ, even in his best game in quite some time last Sunday, still looked about as fast as a dial-up modem (ba duh CHI!).

However, I'd like us to maybe hold off before deciding to go down the "we're a running team" route again.  And here's why:

Jonathan Baldwin

OK, that's oversimplifying the matter.  I know Baldwin's just a rookie and hasn't proven a thing.  But what I'm really talking about is Dwayne Bowe and Steve Breaston being COMPLEMENTED by "Little Jon..."

(You heard it here first.  Now we've got "Big Jon" Asamoah and "Little Jon" Baldwin. See, it's funny cuz he's actually really big for a receiver.  Get it?  And no, I haven't decided yet whether it's "Little Jon" or "Lil' Jon."  I mean, both have their merits.  The bottom line for me is this: Do I want my receiver to be named after a great warrior and huge man who helped Robin Hood light up the Sheriff of Nottingham?  Or the "King of Krunk?"  I'm honestly a little stumped right now, because I like both.  However, doesn't it seem to be tempting fate just a LITTLE to name him after a guy legendary for being smashed at all times, and for yelling out one-word sentences?  I'm going to tentatively go with "Little Jon" for now, but I could probably be talked into "Lil' Jon" if someone wanted to try.  Anyways, what were we talking about?)

Look, I know Matt Cassel is our quarterback.  I know he's not always that good.  Crap, I'm the one who recently refused to take him back, so why are you bringing this up while my heartache is still so fresh?!  You insensitive clod!  Anyways, I'll just give you a numbered list why we need to try and open up the offense to start our next few games.

1)  Everyone is expecting us to try and run the ball and/or throw dink-and-dunk passes.

2)  If everyone is expecting the run, it's tough to run when you don't have an all-universe back like Jamaal Charles.

3)  The combo of Breaston and Bowe looks insanely legit, and is the best thing we have going for us right now on offense.  You get the ball to your playmakers.

4)  Getting the ball to those playmakers will loosen things up for those draws and screens to Dexter McCluster that Muir and Haley are obsessed with.  So they might actually, you know, work.

5)  Having a giant WR with a 40" vertical who has shown (in admittedly little action) an eye for the ball sprinting down the field will only give those playmakers more room to operate.  And in addition, maybe the big guy can even haul down a long one or two.  Be honest, how badly do you want to see Haley say, "Screw it, we're gonna play action and bomb to Baldwin the first play of the game.  Let's see if the kid can come down with it and force every single DC we're playing the rest of the season to change how they approach our game."

6)  Finally, after all this, we come back to the premise that once the field is spread out, we'll be able to run again.  Which sets up the pass again.  Which sets up the run again.  I think you can see where this is going.  I know conventional wisdom is to run to set up the pass, but here' s a news flash: that only works if teams think you can pass the ball and aren't gunning for the run at the beginning of the game.  We've GOT to get teams to respect our passing game. 

7)  And yes, I know this means relying on Matt Cassel, all right?  But what better way to either once and for all run him out of town or prove him to be our conquering hero?  Either he comes through (which I doubt.  Sorry Matt) and our offense starts firing on all cylinders, or he fails and we know we need a QB.  Win-win (well, in that second scenario there probably won't be a lot of winning, at least game-wise.  But I mean an overall, long term win).

Tyson Jackson

I'm throwing this in there for Kalo, who is just too darn nice to say anything.  And yeah, many people seem to have realized this.  But I've still seen a couple of references to T-Jax being a bust here on AP as recently as this week, so I'm going to say this RAWKC-style so as to leave no doubt. 

TYSON JACKSON HAS BEEN OUR BEST DEFENSIVE LINEMAN THIS YEAR, AND IS PLAYING SOME GREAT FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!

"But MN, our defense was terrible the first couple of games!"

Yeah, I know.  And he was hardly getting any snaps.   God knows why, but I don't.  He's since received a much higher percentage of our snaps, and in a stunning turn of events, our line has looked 10 times better.  Let me again spell this out for you as clearly as humanly possible:  Tyson Jackson is no longer fodder for "bust" talk or even "yeah, but he's only average" talk.  He's been playing great football for us.

If you disagree with me on that, fine.  But for the love of God do some legwork to prove me wrong.  Read Kalo's front 7 reports.  If that doesn't convince you, watch the game tape and focus on T-Jax.  If you come back after doing both of those things and are still calling Jackson a bust, then I'll listen. 

Because I've read Kalo's reports, and I've watched the tape.  And the man is rock solid up front.

Carson Palmer and the Raiders

This is looking more and more like a reality (and the story actually popped up AS I was writing this) and let me tell you, it's not a good one.  People are dogging Palmer as overrated and not an improvement over Campbell, but they're wrong.

Last year, with a completely dysfunctional team and a receiving corps that was a shadow of its former self, Palmer STILL threw for almost 4,000 yards while completing over 61% of his passes.  He's also, in case you don't remember, a guy who can throw the deep ball better than Campbell.

Think about that last part for a second.  Carson Palmer can throw a decent deep ball.  Now take a moment to look at the Raiders WR corps.  They're BUILT for a vertical attack.  The problem is they haven't had a QB who could make it happen.  Throw in Darren McFadden, and you have a deadly group of weapons, the likes of which Palmer hasn't had in years.  The last time he had weapons like this?  He was considered by pretty much everyone an elite QB.Is he the same now?  Maybe not.  But he's still a guy who was pretty good last year and the year before.

Even worse, they had a weakness at QB with Campbell in there, but still had a dangerous offense.  Now they have (at the very least) a non-weakness at the most important position on the field.

Yeah, they gave up too much for him.  But that's not what matters right now, from our perspective.  I don't care how it affects them long term.  I care how it affects us for the next 4-5 years.

Crap.

I'm going to leave it at that for today.  After all, it's the bye week, and there's nothing really interesting to discuss.  Right?

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# 5 sounds awesome

If Haley had the balls to call a bomb to Baldwin first play of his career and the kid nails it and scores?! That would be an epic moment

"Stay Classy Kansas City"

by Mas Cervezas on Oct 18, 2011 12:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

It's one of my fantasies....

and, NO, I won’t tell you what the others are. ;-)

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

not tellin’

Already said it – my disclaimer & ah’m stickin to it!

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by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as they involve me it's all good ;-)

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by upamtn on Oct 18, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

um..thats a can of worms you don't even want to come close to on here

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Oct 18, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

See...the disclaimer is just an invite to guys

you should know that by now, so stop with the teasing….

Geesh…you are as bad as Matt Cassel! :)

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Oct 18, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

We Need To Do This
Be honest, how badly do you want to see Haley say, “Screw it, we’re gonna play action and bomb to Baldwin the first play of the game. Let’s see if the kid can come down with it and force every single DC we’re playing the rest of the season to change how they approach our game.”

I would LOVE to see this happen and imagine if it worked!!! Boom out of nowhere the Chiefs have 3 WR threats!!! Has that ever existed in this franchise?

by Spiderwomn69 on Oct 18, 2011 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Short answer? No

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

To expand on that, with a bit longer answer

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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by TRSChief on Oct 18, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

Carlos Carson, Stephon Page and … Can’t think of the 3rd. Boerichter?

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by skunk420 on Oct 18, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope...Boerigter was long after the Carson / Page era (80s)...and Boerigter

was a flash in the pan…not a really good WR. Was doing good his 1st season with the Chiefs (02). After his leg was injured – never made any impact after that. Was here from 02-05

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by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

J.T Smith was the 3rd WR Bill Kenney liked.

Actually, Henry Marshall was the second WR, paired with Carlos Carson and J.T. Smith, before Paige emerged in 85. All 4, as a group in toto, were solid WR’s (when healthy) during the Mackovich/Kenney era, and then even during the Ganz/Kenny era; and even after that for Paige in 89 and 90 for DeBerg/Marty. But from 87 on until 91 (ending with Paige in 91) one after the other retired, or were cut. But all four ended their careers with the Chiefs.

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by LocoLoboChico on Oct 18, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh, damn it, scratch J.T Smith.

I forgot he went on to have his Pro Bowl Years with the Cardinals in the late 80’s, not the Chiefs.

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by LocoLoboChico on Oct 18, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

No better time to do #5 then this week.

He’ll be up against Oaklands bad back end.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 18, 2011 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

About time someone else

Sees what I am talking about when I talk about not looking past Oakland.

by KC_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Palmer Trade

1. Since they won’t win the division they give up a 1st rounder and 2nd rounder. This is for a 31 year old quarterback.

2. Palmer will have to get adjusted to game speed again. Learn a new offense. Learn how his WR’s work. This will take TIME.

3. He will be expensive.

4. Am I the only one not worried about Palmer and Raiders future? They will have almost 0 draft picks this coming year. That will hurt them more than few games starting Boller who could just be a game manager basically who can lean on the running game.

Battle
1. Is a beast. Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

No, I'm with you in not being scurrred of a Palmer led Raiders team, not as scared as they want people to be now

He’s only a notch or two better than Campbell, and that’s questionable given his age/injuries/time away from the game/slow decline in performance, so I think I’ll be able to sleep tonight.

What they’ve done to their future will let me sleep like a baby.

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by severn58 on Oct 18, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm

Palmer Trade

1. Our running game last year and a solid defense is what got us into the playoffs in 2010, last I checked Oakland has those things.

2. Palmer is reportedly in shape, and he’s a veteran so getting use to game speed again isn’t really a problem worth mentioning. He also has a running game to lean on, he won’t need to be able to do much for the first week or 2 in Oakland besides make teams afraid just enough so they don’t stack the box.

3. Since when has money ever stopped Oakland?

4. Oakland will get compensatory picks for Nnamdi, Gallery, and Miller. That’s probably a 3rd and 2, 4th rounders right there, and Oakland’s team they have now is built around guys they find in later rounds, not first rounders. They probably have more first rounders on their team that they picked up from different teams, than they’ve actually drafted.

Battle

1. One game against the 31st run defense in the league doesn’t qualify as being a beast, before you hype him up let him actually prove himself, I don’t mean to be mean, but I really dislike when people celebrate about stuff prematurely.

by KC_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ok

1. Winning games that we were suppose to win got us into the Playoffs. The Chargers are playing some good ball right now. I’ll post in my sig and leave it there for the offseason that The Raiders are the best team in football if they make the playoffs. That’s how confident I am.

2. Reportedly is just that—reportedly.

3. The long term effects will show. Trust me.

4. So you are saying that having few draft picks is a good thing? It’s not.

About Battle. I didn’t celebrate at all I just said he is a beast. That’s true. He is just about 6ft 2 and 240lbs. I didn’t state anything about him being a beast playing wise if you want to question every little thing. Also, as of late there hasn’t been much to get excited about in Chiefs Nation. So why is it a bad thing to see potential about a player that deserves a shot? I don’t mean to be mean but really dislike when people call other people out for posting anything positive over their team.

by Chiefsfan85 on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right about Palmer

From what I understand, the offensive systems between the two aren’t terribly far apart. He’s a vet.

My opinion? Within two weeks he’s operating that offense at a higher level than Campbell ever did.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he plays Sunday and give the Chiefs problems.

He won’t sling it all over the place, but he makes a couple of big throws on play action with the safeties biting on the run.

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by saskwatch on Oct 18, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

But our safeties would never bite on ... a... play...ac-

Shit.

McGraw and Piscitelli.

Well there goes that idea.

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by TRSChief on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Opinion
Within two weeks he’s operating that offense at a higher level than Campbell ever did.

Within 2 weeks after that he’s on IR.

2010 = The beginning of a dynasty

by ChiefWildcat on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why IR?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

That’s worse than I thought. I was hoping he just had a passing familiarity…

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hue J: Hi Carson, nice to meet you

Carson: Hi Hue…you know, we actually met once.
Hue J: Really? When?
Carson: Do you remember that quaint little bar off Bourbon Street in 2003 and that stripper…Jill…whom we later discovered was actually Jack?
Hue J: No way! Wow…well…um…maybe we shouldn’t bring that up again.

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Oct 18, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This week will tell me a lot about the Chiefs.

They have one 2 games in a row, but it was against two of the worst teams in the league. They play a pretty solid Oakland team that will now have either Boller or Palmer throwing the rock. The Chiefs need to at least have a chance to win this game. If they get beat easily this week, I will be leaning towards them more like the team we seen in weeks 1 and 2.

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by saskwatch on Oct 18, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

Well said.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That hypothetical reasoning you mention on Haley's part

Is one I’ve used many times. Just ask anyone that knows me and sees me talk football face to face.

“Why? Because fuck the Raiders, that’s why” is usually my number one reason for just about anything. (heart disease, cancer, the Holocaust, doesn’t matter)

We Don't Hear The Hate

by TRSChief on Oct 18, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know man...

all this #7 being trusted talk is making me a little sick to my stomach…

by SCKSChief on Oct 18, 2011 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Just close your eyes and wish it away!

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

But....but...but...

he PROMISED that this time it would be different…he promised!

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Oct 18, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

So many wrong ways to go with that little writing prompt…

by SCKSChief on Oct 18, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Chiefs show some kind of urgency and start strong for once in the 1st quarter

then they can beat the Raiders.

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.

CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

if they trust Cassel to pass more.

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

Jamaal above all. #25 ftw.

CHIEFS WILL!

by NJChieffan16 on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I guess one could hope this is the week all 4 quarters are well played by the offense and defense…

We’ve played well for longer in every game… does the trend continue?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is the answer....See below:

The story line goes:

Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee (Tom Cruise): I think I’m entitled to them.
Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I want the truth!
Jessep: You can’t handle the truth!

The truth is Haley needs to order a “Code Red”……

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by CatChief on Oct 18, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not even half way thru & you already gave me a terrific laugh out loud...
If Andy Studebaker was a wasp, a running play is a can of RAID. Andy Studebaker is to a rushing attack what a piece of paper is to a paper shredder. The reason Forrest Gump ran so far is that Andy Studebaker was the guy assigned to stop him. If Andy Studebaker against the run was a car, he’d be a Mini Cooper.

Unfortunately, as long as they keep using him in run situations, I may cry later…

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm actually okay with Studie being in on passing situations

Occasionally rushing and more often in coverage.

But please please please don’t let him on the field if there’s an inkling of a chance they’ll run the ball. Please, Romeo?

We Don't Hear The Hate

by TRSChief on Oct 18, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm right there with you

I make the jokes to ease the pain

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carson will be good when he joins stella, and gets his groove back.

But, Carson is going to be extremely rusty, and will have to adjust back into the speed of the game.Honestly, when is the last time he threw a football?

by Chef's Kitchen on Oct 18, 2011 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Impossible to say. He may have been working out daily waiting for his chance.

Or he could’ve been playing Madden and drinking copious amounts of beer and eating chili-cheese nachos 12 hours / day.

Holy crap, chili-cheese nachos sound delicious right now.

We Don't Hear The Hate

by TRSChief on Oct 18, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Schein Twitter
carson’s best friend – tj houshmanzadeh – live on #siriusxm blitz right now. they have been working out twice a week all off-season.
tj calls the zip on palmer’s fastball “night and day” from earlier in off-season. “it’s back to where it was”

by craig in calgary on Oct 18, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop it!

lalalalala I can’t hear you!!!!

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Telling you man

I just hope the Chiefs aren’t doing the little polite, “Aw, that’s cute” chuckle about this signing like a lot of fans are.

I’m not saying we should all flee in terror of Palmer to the Raiders or anything, but show a healthy degree of respect.

We Don't Hear The Hate

by TRSChief on Oct 18, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with ya TRS...this signing makes me a bit cautious...

I remember well all the snickers when we signed Gannon….and look how that turned out…

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apples and oranges

That was a screw-up by Shotty and King Carl.

ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 18, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I was referring to was that signing Gannon was a good thing, but

everyone around the league was snickering at first ‘cause Gannon hadn’t played in a year and was considered avg at best.

Then he proved everyone wrong & went the distance (‘cept he did it w/Oak which was the Shot/Carl gaffe). He’d of won it if not for the now-infamous tuck-a-roo.

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

MN...What do you want him to say?

TJ: Actually his arm can only pass it 10 yards and if we have one of our short fat trainers rush him the ball hits the ground 3 feet in front of him.

ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 18, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes! If only to make my day better.

Is that too much to ask?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

this Raider team is starting to look more & more like the 03 Chiefs

Only with young receivers….and that is in no way good for us. Oakland is a haven for disgruntled cast-offs who got fucked over by their former teams…and with the exception of Moss, it has generally worked out for them….it may not be the long term answer for them, but it makes them very dangerous in the division for the next couple of years. The Chiefs better play pissed the fuck off for 4 quarters, because the Raiders are no joke this year. I fuckin hate em, but that’s the way it is

D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"

by reedeasy on Oct 18, 2011 1:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

some of the weapons are similar

But the success of that 2003 offense rested on the backs of two future Hall of Fame linemen and two Pro Bowl linemen…methinks Oakland doesn’t have quite that amazing of an offensive line

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

but a much better D

D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"

by reedeasy on Oct 18, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

point taken, but their d line & our o line back then makes it kind of a wash

Since both keep opposing offenses off the field for any significant time. My point is that they’re basically mortgatging the future to win now, much like King Carl & the Chiefs did in 03, and there are striking similarities between both teams.

D-Bowe says: "THAT'S MY BIKE, PUNK!!!!"

by reedeasy on Oct 18, 2011 5:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bye Bye

You have a chance to win on sunday because we don’t have a decent QB. The future is now. With Carson QBing it will be your last chance to win for years to come so make the best of it….

by raidertater on Oct 18, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Raiders week has officially begun! :-)

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol...geee ok

The Jets thought the same thing with Favre….and Favre didn’t need Tommy John surgery on his arm.

Well the good thing is the Raiders don’t have to worry about screwing up on a 1st. round pick since they don’t have one,lol.

ROOT with your heart.
ANALYZE with your head.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

See, what's even better is that they've become decent at hitting on their last couple 1's

Just when I was starting to get worried that the Raiders had this draft thing down, they go and do this shit, and totally redeem themselves

"Reject a woman, and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms."
-Dwight Schrute

by severn58 on Oct 18, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Awwww... thanks!

What a nice gu… what do you MEAN that was tongue in cheek????

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

And to pile on..

The Dolphins thought the same thing with Culpepper……and he’s been to more Pro Bowls than Palmer.

And they only gave up a 2nd…

"Reject a woman, and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms."
-Dwight Schrute

by severn58 on Oct 18, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and rec'd!

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Winningest comment ever

“The reason Forrest Gump ran so far is that Andy Studebaker was the guy assigned to stop him. "

by SillyHatDay on Oct 18, 2011 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not askeered of no Carson Palmer.

He was a good QB on a crappy team back in the day.
He then became a better good QB on a better crappy team.
Now, he possibly may be a better good QB on a better good crappy team that I dislike more than warm beer.
One more thing,.. Did I forget to mention that I hate the Raiders.

Haley wins coach of the year 2011
Chiefs 2011 rookie class proves better than 2010's WOW!!!

by ChiefsChance on Oct 18, 2011 1:46 PM CDT reply actions  

That "better crappy" team

Was on their way to the SB when he got hurt.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks MN. for stealing the wind out of my sails. That was a crappy thing to do.

Now I will just sit still and keep my keyboard to myself. (pouts & sniffles). You have a great day kind sir.

Haley wins coach of the year 2011
Chiefs 2011 rookie class proves better than 2010's WOW!!!

by ChiefsChance on Oct 18, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha sorry man

I misspelled “Carson Palmer sucks”

My bad :)

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by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah and while you're at it

Try not to misspell “LOLraiders” as well.

We Don't Hear The Hate

by TRSChief on Oct 18, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

from answers to hopes...

1) Houston – I’m right there with ya on this one MN. This guy has the making’s of a really good one – just needs time & experience.

2) Battle – I love his size and toughness, but am gonna wait to see if he can do close to this consistently. If he gets 80+ yds per game, I’ll be thrilled because there are a couple others who can add to it and that will help open things up for the pass. Hopefully, the fumblitis was only a preseason phenom for him…

3) Baldwin – when oh, when ARE we going to see this guy in a game?? VERY soon I hope. Could Haley be keeping opposing teams guessing and spending at least a little bit of time game-planning for him in case he’s active? I’d love to see him in the game and all three WR B’s out there. What a nightmare that would make for opp’g D’s IF… I’m chomping at the bit to see 3 good WR’s in Chiefs uniforms since I’ve never seen that before!!

4) T-Jax – he’s looked pretty stout to me so far, but I defer to those of you who know the in-depth X’s & O’s better than I. Just very glad that RAC’s there to guide these young guys & hope he stays around here awhile!

Great post as usual MN!

I'm dressin my voodoo doll in stripes every season...

by WorL4Chiefs on Oct 18, 2011 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

Yeah, we need to see Baldwin this week. Enough is enough.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the possible reason for not activating him is because he doesn't play special teams....

Hello?! McFly?! Kick the ball out of the endzone. Worst excuse for not activating a player especially with the added active roster spot this year.

by paulredfish on Oct 19, 2011 12:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Me too

I’m really hoping that’s not the case. Although long term, it seems to have worked out well with Bowe and DJ, and even T-Jax.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't wait to see Baldwin

I want to see if Cassel can throw the deep ball. If he can, well and good, if he can’t, we need a new QB.

Needs for 2011:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker

by Bleedingredandgold on Oct 18, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Do I want answers? I WANT THE TRUTH!!

Anyway, what are the chances of a full-scale riot in downtown KC should Baldwin be inactive on Sunday?

by blink182awa on Oct 18, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd give it at least 3/1 odds.

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by MNchiefsfan on Oct 18, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

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