Pioli's Big Board
This is Mocking Dan's Top 100 of his actual Top 200. If the Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was parsing Dan's list from www.mockingthedraft.com who would we, could we, and should we look at? Lets dissect the best 2011 NFL Draft talent by scheme, then by need, then we will have a good criteria in place for the first three rounds of the Chiefs Draft. We have picks number 21, 55, and 88 around 122, 150, 154, 186, and 218 (ballparkish) as we sit today. Dan's top 200 list here
So lets go :)
Lets eliminate the 4-3 defensive players and the Power Scheme blockers.
3. Da'Quan Bowers | 6'4, 280 pounds | DE | Clemson *
4. Nick Fairley | 6'5, 298 pounds | DT | Auburn *
10. Cameron Heyward | 6'6, 288 pounds | DE | Ohio State
12. Adrian Clayborn | 6'3, 282 pounds | DE | Iowa
13. Stephen Paea | 6'1, 295 pounds | DT | Oregon State
22. Greg Jones | 5'11, 228 pounds | MLB | Michigan State
24. Jurrell Casey | 6'1, 305 pounds | DT | Southern California *
32. Marvin Austin | 6'3, 305 pounds | DT | North Carolina
35. Von Miller | 6'3, 240 pounds | OLB | Texas A&M
36. Gabe Carimi | 6'7, 315 pounds | OT | Wisconsin
39. Corey Liuget | 6'3, 300 pounds | DT | Illinois *
43. Drake Nevis | 6'2, 285 pounds | DT | LSU
44. Rodney Hudson | 6'2, 283 pounds | G | Florida State
48. Tyron Smith | 6'6, 285 pounds | OT | Southern California *
52. Bruce Carter | 6'3, 230 pounds | OLB | North Carolina
58. Mason Foster | 6'2, 240 pounds | OLB | Washington
64. Quan Sturdivant | 6'2, 235 pounds | MLB | North Carolina
66. Jarvis Jenkins | 6'4, 305 pounds | DT | Clemson
78. Dontay Moch | 6'1, 240 pounds | DE/OLB | Nevada
90. Lee Ziemba | 6'8, 310 pounds | OT | Auburn
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Now let's eliminate those that are probably not falling to Pick # 21
1. A.J. Green | 6'4, 200 pounds | WR | Georgia *
2. Patrick Peterson | 6'1, 222 pounds | CB | LSU *
5. Julio Jones | 6'4, 210 pounds | WR | Alabama *
6. Prince Amukamara | 6'1, 200 pounds | CB | Nebraska
7. Marcell Dareus | 6'3, 304 pounds | DT/DE | Alabama *
14. Cameron Jordan | 6'4, 285 pounds | DE | California - interviewed By Chiefs
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Now let's eliminate those positions we have good depth in or are probably not looking for a 1st-3rd rounder in.
11. Mark Ingram | 5'10, 215 pounds | RB | Alabama *
18. Mikel Leshoure | 6'0, 230 pounds | RB | Illinois *
21. Blaine Gabbert | 6'5, 240 pounds | QB | Missouri *
25. Cam Newton | 6'6, 246 pounds | QB | Auburn *
26. Kyle Rudolph | 6'6, 265 pounds | TE | Notre Dame *
34. Ryan Williams | 5'10, 210 pounds | RB | Virginia Tech **
40. Ryan Mallett | 6'7, 238 pounds | QB | Arkansas *
47. Jake Locker | 6'3, 226 pounds | QB | Washington
61. Tyler Sash | 6'1, 210 pounds | SS | Iowa *
65. DeAndre McDaniel | 6'0, 212 pounds | SS | Clemson
71. Jordan Todman | 5'9, 190 pounds | RB | Connecticut *
95. Ahmad Black | 5'9, 185 pounds | SS | Florida
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Now let's break out what is left by position groups:
NT, 3-4 DE's and Tweener 3-4 OLB's
8. Robert Quinn | 6'5, 265 pounds | DE | North Carolina *
9. Aldon Smith | 6'4, 258 pounds | DE | Missouri **
15. Justin Houston | 6'3, 254 pounds | DE/OLB | Georgia *
23. J.J. Watt | 6'6, 292 pounds | DE/DT | Wisconsin *
29. Allen Bailey | 6'4, 285 pounds | DT/DE | Miami (Fla.)
31. Akeem Ayers | 6'5, 254 pounds | OLB | UCLA *
33. Ryan Kerrigan | 6'4, 255 pounds | OLB | Purdue
37. Muhammad Wilkerson | 6'5, 305 pounds | DT | Temple *
73. Pernell McPhee | 6'4, 285 pounds | DE | Mississippi State
75. Mark Herzlich | 6'4, 248 pounds | OLB | Boston College
77. Phil Taylor | 6'4, 355 pounds | DT | Baylor
80. Sione Fua | 6'2, 307 pounds | DT | Stanford
86. Jeremy Beal | 6'3, 261 pounds | DE | Oklahoma
89. Jerrell Powe | 6'2, 340 pounds | DT | Mississippi
93. Lawrence Guy | 6'5, 300 pounds | DT | Arizona State *
96. Sam Acho | 6'3, 260 pounds | DE | Texas
98. Jabaal Sheard | 6'4, 260 pounds | DE | Pittsburgh
99. Christian Ballard | 6'5, 285 pounds | DT/DE | Iowa - interviewed By Chiefs
Cornerbacks and Free Safeties
16. Brandon Harris | 5'11, 195 pounds | CB | Miami (Fla.) *
30. Jimmy Smith | 6'2, 205 pounds | CB | Colorado
38. Aaron Williams | 6'1, 195 pounds | CB | Texas *
45. Rahim Moore | 6'1, 195 pounds | FS | UCLA *
50. Johnny Patrick | 6'0, 190 pounds | CB | Louisville
51. Quinton Carter | 6'1, 195 pounds | FS | Oklahoma - interviewed By Chiefs
53. Brandon Burton | 6'0, 185 pounds | CB | Utah *
54. Deunta Williams | 6'2, 210 pounds | FS | North Carolina
59. Jaiquawn Jarrett | 6'2, 202 pounds | FS | Temple
67. Ras-I Dowling | 6'2, 200 pounds | CB | Virginia
68. Robert Sands | 6'4, 221 pounds | FS | West Virgnia *
74. Curtis Brown | 6'0, 184 pounds | CB | Texas
79. Davon House | 6'0, 190 pounds | CB | New Mexico State
91. Tejay Johnson | 6'1, 212 pounds | FS | TCU
Eric Haag SS Nebraska - interviewed By Chiefs
Offensive Linemen
17. Mike Pouncey | 6'5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida
20. Derek Sherrod | 6'6, 300 pounds | OT | Mississippi State
28. Anthony Costanzo | 6'7, 308 pounds | OT | Boston College - interviewed By Chiefs
41. Nate Solder | 6'8, 305 pounds | OT | Colorado
46. Stefen Wisniewski | 6'3, 302 pounds | C | Penn State
63. Kristofer O'Dowd | 6'5, 300 pounds | C | Southern California - interviewed By Chiefs
70. DeMarcus Love | 6'5, 315 pounds | OT | Arkansas
72. Danny Watkins | 6'4, 310 pounds | OT | Baylor - 26 year old rookie offensive lineman
127. Jason Pinkston | 6'4, 305 pounds | OT | Pittsburgh - interviewed By Chiefs
195. Stephen Schilling | 6'5, 304 pounds | G/OT | Michigan - interviewed By Chiefs
Receivers
19. Jonathan Baldwin | 6'5, 220 pounds | WR | Pittsburgh *
27. Torrey Smith | 6'1, 205 pounds | WR | Maryland *
55. Jerrell Jernigan | 5'9, 185 pounds | WR/KR | Troy
56. D.J. Williams | 6'2, 250 pounds | TE | Arkansas
57. Ronald Johnson | 6'0, 190 pounds | WR | Southern California
60. Randall Cobb | 5'11, 190 pounds | WR/ATH | Kentucky *
62. Titus Young | 5'11, 170 pounds | WR | Boise State
76. Luke Stocker | 6'6, 240 pounds | TE | Tennessee - interviewed By Chiefs
82. Leonard Hankerson | 6'3, 215 pounds | WR | Miami (Fla.)
84. Weslye Saunders | 6'5, 280 pounds | TE | South Carolina
92. Niles Paul | 6'1, 220 pounds | WR | Nebraska
94. Greg Little | 6'3, 210 pounds | WR | North Carolina
97. Vincent Brown | 6'0, 195 pounds | WR | San Diego State
### Jock Sanders 5'7 179 WR West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs
### Dwayne Harris 6'0 205 WR East Carolina - interviewed By Chiefs
Inside Linebackers
42. Nate Irving | 6'1, 235 pounds | MLB | North Carolina State
49. Martez Wilson | 6'4, 250 pounds | MLB | Illinois *
100. Kelvin Sheppard | 6'3, 240 pounds | MLB | LSU
Running backs and Quarterbacks
69. DeMarco Murray | 6'1, 214 pounds | RB | Oklahoma
81. Pat Devlin | 6'4, 220 pounds | QB | Delaware
83. Roy Helu | 6'0, 215 pounds | RB | Nebraska
85. Noel Devine | 5'8, 176 pounds | RB | West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs
87. Christian Ponder | 6'2, 219 pounds | QB | Florida State
88. Shane Vereen | 5'10, 199 pounds | RB | California *
110. Bilal Powell | 6'0, 215 pounds | RB | Louisville - interviewed By Chiefs
I can mark off players from the Chiefs Big Board that you all deem unworthy of consideration for the top 3 picks :)
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ok, this is wreck'd, dude
like super duper work, Steve … when did Scott hire you, anyway? :-)
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Great work!!
Now throw in one more “those who played in the SEC and/or at Iowa” and we can wrap it up ;-)
Just narrow the D-linemen down to LSU too
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Jan 25, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
I thought maybe LSU WR's too
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Very, very nice work Steve.
Great effort but ya forgot to eliminate non- boy scouts, team-captains, choir boys, nat’l honor society, etc.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Nice post man, Rec'd
I see a couple of names I’d like to see in red ’n gold, Aldon Smith being among my favs. Job well done sir!
What's better than a Sonic tater-tot? TWO Sonic tater tots! And a new CBA!
ok, wait ... you hav DE's but no NT's ... even straight up DT's?
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I just put the NT's and Ends and OLB together
IMO by the end of the Chiefs draft we will select one of each. Maybe just one or two of these though
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
the 300 lb plus DT's would be NT
the 250-260 lb DE/OLB would be our SOLB
the 280-300 lb DE’s would be 3-4 DE’s
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, got it ... so, how many of those listed are team captains?
huh? huh??? come on, Steve … we gotta know the important details here ;-)
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Finally some progress
This I like, intelligence at work. Recd and solid!
Just keep Romeo! Tie him down or something...
I'm feeling ballard
From Iowa as a sleeper pick in the late rounds. Solid player with pasha rush skills. Maybe a bit sloppy with his feet but could be coached up.
Just keep Romeo! Tie him down or something...
Thanks
I do think Pioli will get a 3-4 DE in this draft
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Why
I mean true we might not re-sign all our guys, but we are stacked depth-wise & starter-wise ATM. I could maybe see a late late guy, but that’s about it.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
I could see it.
Maybe early, maybe later….but this draft seems stacked with potential 3-4 DEs, so I could see Pioli getting grabby if a talented one falls.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
If one falls to like the 5th sure
But with other positions of need, and TJ’s late season resurgence I just don’t see it early on.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
Karl Klug
Projected 7th Rd.. 6-3…273lbs…4.79.. 2nd Team Big Ten.. plus Pioli friends with the Iowa coach…had a good game against MIZZOU..I thought he looked almost good as Clayborn..(within reason)..practice squad add some strength and weight…just a thought..
Brandon Blair Ore
Similar type. DT/DE suited for 3-4 DE.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Wait! Stop!
Before I read this(just by scrolling down and glancing I know I will enojy it!) I have to know 2 things:
#1-where do you work?
and #2- Do they know you wasted an entire work day providing us fans here at AP with great information?!
Now I must scroll back up and read this beautifully written stuff! As you can tell, I love draft time!
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
I do too
But I actually did do real work today
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
you did?
:::faints:::
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Well done. Good read. Rec'd for sure!
I think our round 1 and round 2 picks will fall to us due to some unknown reason. My third round will be a slight reach but not that much.
1. 17. Mike Pouncey | 6’5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida
2. 46. Stefen Wisniewski | 6’3, 302 pounds | C | Penn State
3. 89. Jerrell Powe | 6’2, 340 pounds | DT | Mississippi
Off season - sign Hali / Gilberry (#1 and #2 sack leaders) Bates (from sea)@ OC
Free Agency - Sign Breaston (ARI) or Smith (NYG)or Jones (GB) @ WR Ngata or Franklin @NT
Pick 1 - Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State (Team Captain)
Pick 2 - Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi (Team Captain)6'2" 320 Rd 2-3
Pick 3 - Demarcus Love OT - Arkansas (Team Captain)6'5" 315
Pick 4 - Edmund Gates WR - Abilene Christian (Team Captain)
"Individuals go to Pro Bowls, teams win championships" (Scott Pioli)
I like...
OLB with first pick. Ryan Kerrigan, Aldon Smith or Akeem Ayers.
I’d like best center available with 2nd pick.
And too hard to guess much further. But I can guarantee we draft a fs to replace McGraw.
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
Don't like Kerrigan or Ayers
But loves me some Smith
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
thanks to this read I changed my sig!
Off season - Trade ARIZONA enough to get Fitzgerald (thanks Eyepod for free agent status)w/o destroying our draft (thanks Texas Chief)
NFL DRAFT
Pick 1 – Mike Pouncey G/C Florida 6’5" 320
Pick 2 – Stefen Wisniewski C Penn State 6’3" 302
Pick 3 - Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi (Team Captain) 6’2" 340
Pick 4 - Edmund Gates WR - Abilene Christian (Team Captain)
"Individuals go to Pro Bowls, teams win championships" (Scott Pioli)
"Everyone has a plan 'til they get punched in the mouth" (Mike Tyson)
You want to draft 2 centers?
Trapped in the past, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, putting things right that once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Jan 24, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Let alone
with the first two picks.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 24, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Nah
He wants to draft a Guard and a Center.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that's how I took it.
I don’t like it much, but it would actually seem to fit Pioli’s style of hedging his bets on a position that he really wants to improve.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Oh yeah
I really don’t see it as plausible considering we have LIlja locked up for a quick minute, but if we didn’t then I would agree with that strategy whole-heartedly.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 1:39 AM CST up reply actions
I'm thinking...
1) 9. Aldon Smith | 6’4, 258 pounds | DE | Missouri
2) 46. Stefen Wisniewski | 6’3, 302 pounds | C | Penn State
I would love Torrey Smith at this spot and would be my first choice for the 2nd round, but I’m realistic and it probably won’t happen but if it does then that would be badass
3) 80. Sione Fua | 6’2, 307 pounds | DT | Stanford
He needs to bulk up by 20 lbs or so in order to be a great NT in my opinion but a solid pick for the 3rd round
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by Priest_Allen31_32 on Jan 24, 2011 10:29 PM CST reply actions
sounds good to me
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don't stop there..
4) James Carpenter / 6’5, 313lbs/ LT (move to RT) / Alabama.. 1st Team all SEC
5) Chris White / 6-3, 244lbs/ ILB (i think captain) / Miss State.. 2nd Team all SEC
I watched this White kids bowl game. He runs hard and hits hard. RB’s didn’t fall forward. He’s in the Senior Bowl, even if you disagree..watch him. I was impressed. IMO, he is every bit of good as Nate Irving..maybe not a fast in 40 but..hits harder…
Priest hope you don’t mind..me adding on..
And just to keep it going...
5b) WR Cecil Shorts, III Mt Union 6’2", 210, 4.43 dash, member FCA.
6) RB E Roster Penn St, 6’, 218, 4.59 dash.
7) FS E. Hagg, Neb, 6’1", 206 , 4.6 dash.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
I was going to say something about them talking to Costanza.....
……but I should of known you were on your game with this one!
Off season - Trade ARIZONA enough to get Fitzgerald (thanks Eyepod for free agent status)w/o destroying our draft (thanks Texas Chief)
NFL DRAFT
Pick 1 – Mike Pouncey G/C Florida 6’5" 320
Pick 2 – Stefen Wisniewski C Penn State 6’3" 302
Pick 3 - Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi (Team Captain) 6’2" 340
Pick 4 - Edmund Gates WR - Abilene Christian (Team Captain)
"Individuals go to Pro Bowls, teams win championships" (Scott Pioli)
"Everyone has a plan 'til they get punched in the mouth" (Mike Tyson)
I really like this, Steve
thanks for the leg work.
However, I’d like to throw a wrench in everyone’s cogs. I don’t think folks are giving raw talent and our coaches enough credit in this draft. I see 6 Chiefs in the Pro Bowl this year, 5 of which were on a team that had 0 representatives this year. Yeah, some players stepped up their games, but it was ultimately the result of some good coaching. I wouldn’t count a guy like Carimi out because some draft geek says he has heavy feet. If Pioli sees talent and coachability, I think they take a chance.
With that being said, I wouldn’t mind seeing Carimi, Costanzo, Wisniewski, or Solder (as much as I despise CU) taken as our first pick. I’m also liking Fua’s size at NT…not many there looking built for a 3-4 NT IMO.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 24, 2011 10:46 PM CST reply actions
excuse me
0 representatives last year.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 24, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
You Like Fua's size?
That’s like his Worst attribute when talking NT.
Also don’t see Carimi just because he has bad Athleticism, not bad feet lol.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
How do you figure?
He’s not overly tall and can put on some weight/muscle. I thought it was a position of leverage. shrug
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 25, 2011 7:02 AM CST up reply actions
But you said size as in height/weight
His size right now isn’t great lol, but can he put on more sure maybe, don’t see why not.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Great stuff and REC'd
Nice work on breaking it all down
We're the same team as last year, except incredibly better, and with new players.
Good Work,,,Useful Post
I feel that our ability to address the #2 WR position in FA will determine how our draft goes. If we are successful in signing a quality #2 WR during the FA signing frenzy, then we can address our needs for some “beef” early in the draft. If there isn’t a quality FA WR, or someone else outbids us, or if the CBA situation stops the FA signings, then we will need to address the WR position early in the draft. If we don’t come up witih another good receiver, part of every opponent’s prep for us next season will be to watch video of this years’ Raiders and Ravens games.
As for your work…excellent. You have provided a framework for our draft theories. Thanks.
Craig and Chief I got dazed by the excellent post.
I actually want us to go almost all Defense in the draft. The guys I wanted in round 2 sound like they are 4-3 guys. If we can address the #2 wide out before the draft that is. When I think about it better I see us getting someone to help Hali on the QB pressure in the first round. A nose tackle in the third. The second is up in the air for me. Maybe a OL/OT to help give Cassel time to hit our free agency Wide out/ or Bowe or Moeaki or whoever.
Can't do that
draft has to be balanced.
Going all D during the Vermeil years is what crippled our offense down the line.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Jan 25, 2011 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
Nice work Steve!
I have two questions.
1] When you listed ‘Now let’s eliminate those positions we have good depth in or are probably not looking for a 1st-3rd rounder in.’ you listed RB’s and QB’s. However, later you broke those positions down in the section of ‘what is left by position groups’ Can you explain that discrepancy?
2] Do you think it’s viable that the Chiefs take a CB or FS in rounds 1-3?
Merlin
Merlinnj
as written it doesn't really come out this way
but I think he is leaving qbs and rbs that we could possibly like in the 4th or later rounds.
Sign Shaun Smith.
yeah I thought maybe the Chiefs would get a QB or RB later
just not in the first or second.
as for the CB or FS I really don’t know who one team favors style wise over another.
I was trying to keep as many potential players in as possible :)
Just try to STOP US
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 7:40 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind
a John Connor type fullback drafted somewhere by the Chiefs. We don’t seem to be set at that position and could certainly use someone that could put some pop into people leading the way for Jamaal.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 24, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions
Good thought
and congrats on being the first one to bring that up here. I think many underestimate the effects of a great fullback on both the running and passing games.
I can’t say that I’m familiar with the FB prospects, but we should keep an eye on the late rounds/UDFAs to see if we can improve here.
2011 Draft Needs:
SOLB, NT, WR, C, RT, depth..........
Big things poppin next year!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Jan 25, 2011 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
Some good RB,FB, ILB, DB,WR picks are going to be available in mid-late rounds.
I like the idea of mainly Beef up front:
1) NT P Taylor Baylor
2) WR L Hankerson Miami
3) C/G G Moffitt Wisc
4) DE/LB B Reed Ariz
5) CB J Brown Colo
5) ILB C Mathews Ore
6) RB A Bradford USC
7) OT DJ Young Mich St
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
To bad Moffit doesn't fit our scheme
and I like how you want beef up front but only pick like 3 lineman lol
by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 1, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Steve, you eliminated a ton of potential 3-4 DEs in your first cutdown.
And I mean that literally, there’s about 2000lbs of humanity in that list any 300+lbs of which I wouldn’t mind seeing in a Chiefs uni. :)
Also wondering why you tried to eliminate strong safeties when we desperately need an understudy for McGraw….
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
McGraw is a SS?
That’s news to me I thought he was a back-up FS.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
I think they're interchangeable......
Left and right safeties, in Crennel’s defense. His skill set is more suited to strong safety, I think, except that he’s getting too slow to cover Todd Heap. And later in the season, after Lewis was clearly the starting FS, McGraw usually substituted for a LB in the nickel, and that just seems like more of a strong saftey’s role to me.
Anyway, was thinking that we have two young guys in Lewis and Berry who have center field ability, so why eliminate a thumper type safety from consideration?
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
But they aren't
Did Lewis play up this year? I didn’t notice it I saw Berry up mostly. And Berry is a Center-fielder and a Thumper-type BTW. :p
I want somebody who can do both jobs, more often then not a SS can’t. That’s why I love Tejay Johnson.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
Nah, misunderstood I think.
I was talking about the positions, not necessarily the players.
Lewis played deep mostly, Berry can play deep (or where ever Berry wants to play). So I’d be more comfortable if we got a dedicated strong safety than if we got another center fielder type like Lewis. Of course, it would be awesome to have a secondary full of Berrys….
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
But Berry is our dedicated SS...?
A 2ndary full of Berry’s lol. Well at least its filled with Flowers and Carrs.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 3:53 AM CST up reply actions
hahaha
a lot of those 3-4 DE’s possibilities are going to get picked prior to our pick as 4-3 DT and other 3-4 teams Ends. I left Cam Jordan and JJ Watt on cause they might be available.
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
Great Read!
1. Mike Pouncey | 6’5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida
2. Jeremy Beal | 6’3, 261 pounds | DE | Oklahoma
2. Jerrell Powe | 6’2, 340 pounds | DT | Mississippi (trade up)
kckrazy I dont think we will need to trade up for Powe
I think he will be there when we draft in the third at 88.
NTs are rare.
Rare players are often over-drafted. Thus TJax.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Bad example
Better one would be Berry, T-Jax isn’t very rare, there just weren’t many in that particular draft. So I guess he was rare in his own special way.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
No, good example.
Bad interpretation. The NT position is rare this year, as was the 3-4DE position in the 2009 draft. I wasn’t talking about the players, just the positions.
"The key to victory is not your strength, but your opponent's weakness." -T.
Hmm I suppose
You would be correct in that assumption, me haps. (Starts smoking pipe)
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 3:55 AM CST up reply actions
Awesome and major Wreckage
If I had the creativity or work ethic I might’ve come up with something like this.
You my friend
ARE AWESOME!!! Major wreckage from me.
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
Hali and Flowers are Pro Bowlers, even if the NFL fails to realise it
I watched the practice day 1 senior bowl and WR from San Diego state looked good, had superglue for hands
Resign Tamba Hali, Resign S Smith and draft Roy Helu JR - RB - Nebraska
by Mas Cervezas on Jan 25, 2011 5:43 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Pat Devlin - QB/Delaware
I’m on the Chain Gang for the University of Delaware and saw Devlin play live every home game for 2 years just like I did with Joe Flacco. Devlin might not be as polished as Flacco was coming out, but KC did have a scout at UD’s last regular season home game who told me that Pioli and Haley are both very high on Devlin and Pioli had called the scout directly to get a first-hand account of his game. I like Cassel, but wouldn’t be a bad idea to grab Devlin as a backup for a year or two. Can’t be worse than Brodie (I haven’t won a game since I started getting paid) Croyle.
Gotta love them Deleware QB's.
I wouldn’t mind having the next Rich Gannon or Joe Flacco. Must be something in the water.
And he was a captain
Thus fitting the apparent policy the regime instituted last year.
by Chief O'Flyers on Jan 28, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
Devlin is ranked at 88 one this big board.
with that info do you think the Chiefs would take Devlin with pick 88? Or do you think they would wait and see if he is still around in round 4?
Almost all of these guys will move up or down prior to draft day
the ranking is Mocking Dan’s ranks as of right now.
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
And in the end, no one knows their true value but the teams
Every team is going to have their own board, own rankings, where they feel a guy should be slotted, etc.
It’s fun to speculate though. :)
One good thing about the Combine (in my opinion)
is the fact that a player that your team wants may have a bad day at the combine and fall in the draft. A player that your team didnt even think would be there when you are set to draft might be there because of a few slips during drills. If you have 4 years of college tape, or less for underclassmen, then the Combine should just confirm what you seen on tape.
It just surprises me each year of the amount of players that shoot up the draft boards and others that fall just as far.
some of those measurements are very Suprising
Hankerson lost 2 inches in height yesterday. 6’1 now instead of 6’3.
Kerrigan lost 15 lbs and now seems to be a 4-3 End or 3-4 OLB only.
Von Miller is practicing only at LB for the Senior Bowl
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
I think the combine affects fan and experts opinions more than teams
I remember several interviews with coaches and GM’s at the combine that say it’s more about the interviews and complete physicals for them. If a guy puts up a surprising time one way or another they may go back and review his tape, but all in all, they’re going to go off game film more than anything.
Pioli suggesested in his interview today? that some teams
like the Patriots and now the Chiefs and a few other teams look for a certain trait.
The love of football and playing football, it makes me wonder why other teams would not highly value that trait also.
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I think they all value that, in fact I’m sure most teams boards are the same in regards to what they like in a prospect. Sometimes 40 times are what they like, or the athletic ability. Maybe they had great production? Who knows really.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
It does seem the Chiefs and the Raiders
are the best examples of the two extremes
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Though I think Al saw through the fog of his senility last year, McClain had a bad 40 IIRC
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
It's definitely something to keep in mind when looking at scouting reports
Guys with high motors, good work ethic, students of the game, etc. will probably be more likely to be Chiefs picks, where underachievers, guys that take plays off, etc. are probably less likely to be looked at.
I'd take
1. Houston OLB/DE
2. Wisniewski C
3. Powe DT
4. Pettis WR
5. McClain DT
5. Hall RT
6. Torrence CB
7. Chapas FB
by ChiefDailyBaked on Jan 25, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions
some nice info regarding Adrian Clayborn and Mike Pouncey
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Freshman-Blog.php
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We'll see later today
when they have pads on
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
We won't actually
As both have opted out. Sounds like Pouncey’s hurt.
Lol
Damn, I thought it was weird that I didn’t see Clayborn earlier
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe a decent 3-4 DE backup to push Dorsey?
or just good planning
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
Or Smokescreen ;)
How many guys did we interview did we draft last year? I don’t remember us interviewing Berry…
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Someone did
the Chiefs decided on him a month before the draft
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
At the Senior Bowl?
Really that’s why all the sources were screaming Okung huh? ;)
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
obviously not/ I Don't know when they decided prior to April
That is the Chiefs line an they had decided on Tyson Jackson earlier in a timeline thingy than Berry. Maybe that means they will wait longer with a very short list this season. Castonzo seems to be very well liked by teams that run the ZBS. New England has a pick prior to the Chiefs, and Indianapolis has a pick right after the Chiefs
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
beefier ZBS I think
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
I think another young DE would be a good move
Maybe push Shaun Smith back into the NT rotation, give us more depth. Depending on the player, could open up some flexibility with personnel packages to give all kinds of different looks.
It also might open a big trade possibility with Glenn Dorsey
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see that happening
Not yet at least. I think Dorsey’s proven he’s a piece of the team for the future. Now a few years down the line when he’s due a big contract….maybe.
Steve
You have the craziest idears, ones that are old too lol. I thought this kind of talk died last year.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Not really
I am talking about possibly correcting older errors.
Pioli had no problem moving Magee, Page, and Pollard.
I think lke some players Pioli has a I made that play and failed learn move on attitude that works in sports. It works for me too.
Not all fans look at it that way.
Our biggest issue with Carl was he tried to paint the pig with his bad decisions. I don’t need Pioli flagelating himself in the Power and Light district to make correcting mistakes as quickly as plausible
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
What exactly has Dorsey done?
To make you think this way?
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
He is not a Pioli 3-4 type end
why do you argue so much? I am simply stating what my Brain extrapolates. I am not saying we do I am saying we could
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
Just trying to discuss your reasoning
You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to you know. I don’t see why he isn’t a Pioli-Type 3-4 End but meh, I wouldn’t trade him for nothing less then a 1st, and I think Pioli feels the same way.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 29, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
sorry I was wrong to answer like that
I love the discussions
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Its all good man
I come off a bit Argumentative anyways no big deal.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 29, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yes on the AP favs :)
Paea seems to be very good as a 4-3 1-gap penetrating DT. I quizzed KaloPheonix about this and it is not what the Chiefs are really doing except in the Nickel package when Wallace Gilberry comes in to do that. In a different defensive scheme (like Dallas maybe) he would fit. Else, a 1st round pick on a player in a sub-package is probably a non-starter. Sorta like Von Miller would be in the Chiefs Defense
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Getting in shape
I think the prospects drop weight for the combine show. I’m sure once drafted he will hit the Twinkie bar.
Why would a prospect NT/DT lighten his weight?
he wants to go to Dallas?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
I am not up on new movies past the early 90's anyway
I did see that the Senior Bowl has a 246 lb DB? That would be a Shark cruising in the secondary
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
37. Muhammad Wilkerson | 6'5, 305 pounds | DT | Temple *
Please do not miss-understand this. I absolutely love this Post. I would love to commend you on the time and format you used to put the draft into perspective. I do feel that this player should be on the list for 3/4 DE or even NT. Everything I have heard has him with the ability to do both positions. In my mock I have us taking him in the second if he is there.
I see him as a 3-4 DE
A good one at that, he just doesn’t have the hype.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks 78
I want to adjust this based on opinions.
I am adding players as Pioli shows his hand or bluffs :)
Cameron Jordan is acting quite the stud in Mobile and I saw four top-15 teams were maybe spots for him to land. He is not on the Chiefs boeard anymore.
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
A 3-4 DE I will move him back to the Pioli board :)
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Why though?
We have plenty we need a NT!!!
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
He is a possibility
none of the NT’s are of the board except Paea. I think he might go in the top 20 picks, now I wonder if he will go in the 1st round
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Wow that was quick
But we have no need for 3-4 DEs especially in the 1st round. Ballard is one thing but he’s not a 1st round prospect.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
I was correcting my poor typing
it is not Off the Board per say, if Pioli shows some interest, but he is still as of now projected higher……. I get little in my hunker mode :)
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to learn more about Kerrigan...
2010: Team co-captain … received team’s Most Valuable Player Award for defense … first unanimous All-American at Purdue since 1980 and merely the seventh in school history … named first team All-America by the American Football Coaches Association, The Walter Camp Football Foundation, the Football Writers Association of America, the Associated Press and The Sporting News … Si.com first team All-American … Rivals.com first team All-American … Collegefootballnews.com first team All-American … Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year (coaches and media votes) … Big Ten Defensive Lineman of the Year (coaches) … first team All-Big Ten (coaches and media) … Academic All-Big Ten
Seems like a Pioli type
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 25, 2011 10:01 PM CST reply actions
need to look at eams like us that need 3-4 OLB's AND now maybe the 4-3 teams that need RUSH DE's
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
What?
He seems more like a 4-3 DE to me, Aaron Kampman 2.0
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Kerrigan weighed in at 255 lbs
that seems like Vrabel 2.0 to me
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
So he weighs in that much and?
That really means nothing, the fact that he isn’t participating in LBer drills however says a lot more. Kampman 2.0 IMHO, not Vrabel at all.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
the Senior Bowl has that 4-3 scheme thing going
Kerrigan will look great as a 4-3 DE and projects as a possible 3-4 OLB
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
But Miller has been exclusively in Linebacker drills
I just don’t see Mike Vrabel in Ryan Kerrigan at all man.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
Fullback prospect
Owen Marecic – Stanford
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 25, 2011 10:06 PM CST reply actions
everyone wants him
he is a draft darling
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Still a 4th or 5th round guy though I believe
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 25, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Would you grab Marecic over an Alex Henery?
both would be luxeries
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure I see fullback as a luxury
A blocker for the best rushing team in the NFL. Extra blocking for Cassel in the pocket. If he can take a carry or catch a pass from time to time, that’d be gravy.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 25, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
and he'd have to improve Special Teams play
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 25, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I saw some guy Havili if you want a FB
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
not sure I WANT one necessarily
definitely bigger holes to fill. Was just thinking I liked what I saw from Conner and Cox and Castille always seemed to be on a carousel.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Jan 25, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
The Chiefs could actually split a TE in at FB
that would be a wrinkle that works for us, cause we want all the Receivers to block too. Short yardage we have the Big Freeze and all kinds of opportunities for the TE’s
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
Henery could kick a 50 yarder
that would be 3 points to the good
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Not really
But Henery is a great Punter/Kicker so he could free up space on the roster since he can take care of 2 positions.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 25, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
He cannot punt well
He is the punter in the Senior bowl.
He is a kicker
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
My bad Chief
I sold that bill of goods :(
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Henery said he is a kicker
The senior bowl asked him to punt and he is struggling a little bit with Kai Forbath as the Kicker for the team. I like that though and lets see what happens
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
another correction
The senior bowl asked him to punt and he is struggling a little bit with the punting
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 25, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
If Phil Taylor keeps playing well at the Senior Bowl
He might just become my new favorite 1st round pick for the ole Chiefs, depending on what we do, if possible, in free agency.
Has anyone truly fathomed the ramifications of the potential work stoppage if there is a lockout and the consequences it will have on the draft? If teams can’t fill needs with free agents, then needs may become even more glaring and reaching for teams in the draft. While many say Pioli wouldn’t take a WR in the 1st round, if it’s considered a major need, which many speculate it is, then a WR might just be what the doctored ordered at #21, since there’s no certainty of free agency and adding that piece, which Pioli has done or attempted to do in the past.
"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter
I liked Taylor a lot early on.....
…. and even more now.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Hey Steve, What happened to OT Carimi , Wisc.
Why was he trimmed. Surely he will go in first couple rounds.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
from the scouting reports I have read Carimi seems a better fit in a power blocking scheme
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 26, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
interesting. That's Carimi the SI.com mock has us picking
The first time I saw it I thought it was wacko. I like your analysis better.
So if you were putting together a mock draft, who do you believe are our first 5 picks?
by MarylandChief on Jan 27, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks I did just check out what we might be able to grab
1 21 Kansas City Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College
2 55 Kansas City Phil Taylor DT34 Baylor
3 86 Kansas City Kristofer O’Dowd OC USC
4 117 Kansas City Dwayne Harris WRF East Carolina
5 148 Kansas City Alex Henery PK Nebraska
5 151 Kansas City Stanley Havili FB USC
from www.drafttek.com mock simulator
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see Phil lasting to our pick
Especially after the Combine, and O’Dowd has looked Turrible at the Senior Bowl. He honestly looks like a 5th rounder right now. And why are we grabbing a P/K?
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
I was trying to find the teams that would grab Taylor in the 1st?
Buffalo – bigger needs
Jets
Pitt
SD
Wash
Are all 3-4 defenses that would like an upgrade at NT, yet they have other needs too.
in the drafttek mock some 4-3 D’s want defensive tackles
Carolina – Farley
Indy – Wilkerson? in 2nd
Tenn – Nevis? in 2nd
New Orleans
St. Louis
Seattle – Paea in 1st
Oakland
Who is going to pick Talor before our 2nd round 55th pick?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Ummm any team that needs a NT, because they're in high demand.
the Redskins come to mind, you forgot about them
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Also, it seems we have again lost our 6th round pick
I wonder what our compensation for Jared Page will be from New England?
Maybe we have to wait on a Belicheck draft day trade for our 7th round pick to be announced?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Its either a 6th or nothing
we’ll find out more as we get closer to the draft.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Danny Watkins OG from Baylor is intriging me right now
I know we seem set at Guard but this kid has some fire it seems
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He's really impressed
Don’t know if he fits in a ZBS but I’d love to take him even though we don’t have a real need at Guard.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
I am wondering about the possibility of pandering
pander
verb
pander to something or someone indulge, please, satisfy, gratify, cater to, play up to (informal), fawn on The sports agents have pandered to the GM/Public for far too long.
Noun 1. pander – someone who procures customers for whores (in England they call a pimp a ponce)
fancy man, pandar, panderer, pimp, procurer, ponce
England – a division of the United Kingdom
offender, wrongdoer – a person who transgresses moral or civil law
procuress – a woman pimp
whoremaster, whoremonger – a pimp who procures whores
Seems maybe they are a lot of Agents in Mobile, Alabama trying to get their favorite favored. IMO. I wonder if that includes monetary gain also?
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Monetary gain
That’s usually what happens when you get an agent.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
I was more referencing the talking heads and mock draft boards.
what is it worth to say Von Miller’s agent to go from a late 1st pick to a top-10 pick with a Mayock or someone else’s endorsements?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmmmm
Doesn’t matter unless a team is super lazy and actually goes by what Mayock is saying(McDaniels anyone?) besides actually doing the work themselves or using their Scouting Department.
Really one of the big reasons he’s talked about in the top 10 is because the Cards talked to him, and he’d be a perfect fit for what they want there. On top of which Pass Rushers are in high demand, and he’s the best pass rusher so…
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
He is a Jack-Backer
at 237 he is not a run stuffer. It amuses me that some say he can man up on a TE that would be 20-30 lbs heavier? someone is playing the system and as they say it only takes one team like Denver to make the pick. DO you think if Miller had to take down Tebow or Ratlisberger one on one he could?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Jack?
I thought it was Will? All I know is if a 4-3 team drafts him, they’re gonna be sorry. I swear if Miller were 20-30 Lbs heavier he’d be Derrick Thomas incarnate.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
he has the will to do it
I am not doubting that Von Miller will do something in the NFL. You think he is a DJ?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
Mmmm...I see what you did there
I don’t think so, I see him as a Pass Rush specialist, he’s definitely got the talent to be a great one. And have you seen how long his arms are, 34" is a good size for a lineman let alone a LB and his are longer then Dorsey’s which is insane.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, I can't remember which "Draft" anaylyst it was
used a few lines from Scott Wrights blog to sell the whole Arizona is interested story….
I had read that and some lazy analyst “with cred” moves it up the line and then you have this feeding frenzy of interest on the rest of the “lazy” mocks cause so-so said it based of a someone else that was not properly quoted or credited
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
I heard it from Adam Schefter actually
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
now you are screwing with me
you heard it or you read it from Adam?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
interesting
The War on Drugs seems to be a losing effort and a waste of resources :(
almost like finding the terrorists in a crowd of citizens
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 27, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
It doesn't seem
It IS a losing effort it always was.
Ahh but we can find Them don’t you know that’s why we’re in Iraq/Afghanistan, which is also a sell to the gullible :p
by ChiefWarPaint on Jan 27, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
title is a bit misleading
since this has absolutely nothing to do with Pioli
shouldn’t Steve of just titled it “Here is my big board”?
Let me call Pioli and see if he will share his Big Board with us :)
Do you think he has any of the players I removed from this board on his Board?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 28, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
May need to check this guy out and adjust.
Chris Neild DL West Virginia 6017 313 32 11
Monday Practice Notes: Neild was a load against the run. He kept square to the line of scrimmage and stayed low. He did need to do a better job working against pressure.
Tuesday Practice Notes: The nose tackle is what he is. And today he was nearly impossible to drive off the football, even an inch. He stays square to the line. He can split double teams. He simply has not been much of a presence in pass rush drills.
Wednesday Practice Notes: There was an instance or two when Neild was moved off the ball. Those came when he battled against downblocks when the offensive linemen had an angle advantage.
Analysis: The best run stuffing defensive lineman throughout the week, bar none. Neild is limited in his abilities, but what he does well; he really does well. A two gap nose in college, Neild was almost impossible to move off the snap during practices. He does not present much up-field presence, but 34 teams will be very intrigued with this legitimate 0 technique. It also helped Neild tremendously to show up at 313 pounds, instead of near 300 (which was his playing weight). Nose tackles are rare, but Neild cna get the job done.
You took out Von Miller, but he played in a 3-4....
but then again, he probably won’t make fall to the 21st spot. He looks quick and fast as a rush linebacker.
My Chiefs Big Board
1. Von Miller OLB- Tamba Hali and Von Miller could be a nightmare for QBs
2. Phil Taylor NT- Taylor is 6’4 327 could add some size to the front 7
3. Mike Pouncey C- If he is like his brother I want him on the Chiefs
4. JJ Watt DE/DT- This guy is a monster reminds me of a Aaron Smith or Richard Seymour type of player
5. Julio Jones WR- Great size, but drops to many passes
2011 Offseason Wishlist:
1. Sign Tamba Hali to a Multi Year Deal
2. Sign Haloti Ngata Out of Free Agency
3. Bring Back Mike Vrabel for One More Year as a Back up
4. Draft WR Austin Pettis in the Second Round
5. Draft OLB Von Miller in the First Round
That IS simply awesome work Steve. Rec'd.
"If people don't want to come out to the ball park, nobody's gonna stop 'em."
~Yogi Berra~

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