Chiefs Fans Can Likely Cross Larry Fitzgerald Off Wishlist
by Joel Thorman on Jan 10, 2011 10:28 AM CST
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With the loss to the Baltimore Ravens in the NFL playoffs, the Kansas City Chiefs season is over. We're disappointed and frustrated but we're moving on and included in moving on is looking at the roster and figuring out ways to improve it.
One of the most common positions for which you'll see Chiefs fans screaming for an upgrade is receiver. The Ravens game made that pretty clear to us.
So it's natural that we've thought about -- dreamed, really -- what it would be like to acquire Arizona Cardinals WR Larry Fitzgerald. Todd Haley has a relationship with him and he's the best player in the league at his position and is about to enter the final year of his contract. I understand why fans were (and are) interested in him but I think most of us knew it was highly unlikely to happen.
If there ever was a chance, it's probably going to turn into the non-existent variety soon. ESPN and the Arizona Republic reported over the weekend that Fitzgerald and the Cardinals have begun talks on a contract extension. If they can work something out, that means Fitz will likely be staying in Arizona for the time being.
As there is every offseason, we'll become attached to one player that the Chiefs have to get. It just probably won't be Larry Fitzgerad.
(H/T jbj8609)
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Damn,
Well at least Bobby Sippio might still be available.
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If the Chiefs can bring back J.J. Birden
This wouldn’t be a problem.
by Joel Thorman on Jan 10, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
I'd prefer
Lake Dawson. Skills will never diminish with a name like that.
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
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Only if you bring Bill Kenney with him...
Keeping perspective...improvement is 6 wins, but I think 8 is attainable.
There are plenty of WR in FA this year
On top of that, I like the Curtis Pick up. I think he stays and plays next year. I doubt we use our #1 pick on a WR either from trade or the 21 pick in the draft. I think we pick up 1 of the FA WR and Curtis is the #3 slot WR with Dexter. Our #1 pick needs to be a DT or LB. In my opinion.
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Agreed.
plus there are a lot of very talented WR this year available.
V Jax, Sidney Rice, Santonio Holmes, Malcom Floyd, Steve Smith (NYG), Braylon Edwards, Steve Breaston, James and Jacoby Jones, TJ Houshmandzeadeh, And I really think Mark Clayton out of STL could be cheap and effective. he played really well before he got injured early in the season.
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by fleetmarine on Jan 10, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Which of the FA’s can stretch the field the most and be a vertical threat?
by ExRoyalsFan on Jan 10, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I find that funny
because the knock on Sidney rice coming out of college was that he was too slow. He only ran a 4.6-4.7 at his pro day. Now after playing with Favre in 09, everyone is in love with the guy. Just goes to show that there is so much of a difference between football speed and track speed. But I agree, he is a great vertical threat with his long strides, great jumping ability and the way he attacks the ball at its highest point. He’s very similar to Vincent Jackson to me.
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
Rice is a procession/jump ball receiver. I see him more as a poor man’s Fitzgerald. Breaston makes all the sense in the world. He shouldn’t be too expensive. I bet he is the only major free agent we bring in.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 10, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
Except for his knee is jacked up
That would be a concern to me. At least Rice has already shown he has been able to come back from his hip surgery.
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
Most will re-sign with current team though.
If they are that valuable, their current team realizes that as well.
Keeping perspective...improvement is 6 wins, but I think 8 is attainable.
only thing is....
some teams won’t want to fork money out to every position so they will choose who to keep and who to let go. There will be some guys who teams would love to hold onto but financially won’t be able to.
Yesterday is a cancelled check. Today is cash on the line. Tomorrow is a promissory note. - The greatest coach ever - Hank Stram
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by ArrowHeadUnDead on Jan 10, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
Sidney Rice or James Jones
Jones would jump at the opportunity to be a full time starter.
That would be sick
Had him in fantasy(doesn’t make me an expert I know) but the guy was a beast most of the time and that’s playing behind Jennings and Driver
kinda knew this would happen
but, Breaston is likely not going to be re-signed in AZ… he’d be a nice pickup.
I would certainly draft one or two WR.
Obviously, it’s too easy to just shut down Bowe and, thus, shut down the passing offense
KC needs MULTIPLE options, and depth.
It's all about the gameplan
C'mon Fitz!
The guy has a sweet deal. He can’t get traded and they can’t franchise him without paying him close to 20 million. I don’t see why Larry wouldn’t wait until next offseason to keep his options open. I want to sign Breaston this offseason, Fitzgerald next season, and then franchise and trade D Bowe.
Why would you want to do that?
Bowe is coming into his prime, and was one of the best receivers in the league this year. What we need is a speedster who can stretch the field. Then we’d have Bowe, the big physical receiver, Our speedster (a’la DeSean Jackson) who is always a threat downfield, McCluster working the slot, and JC coming out of the backfield. What are you going to do in that situation as a defense?
You would then need to have a QB who, when pressured, could still pick out whoever was open
and hit them downfield.
Watching yesterdays game ...
Even when Cassel had time, there wasn’t anyone open.
by JacinB on Jan 10, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, don't agree. The Chief's has excellent coverage most of the time but
Flacko still would find a crease. There’s always someone coming open for the right QB. I wish we could see and full field tape of the game and analyis that question.
What game were you watching?
Heap was open over the center all freaking day. He even commented how he was surprised that KC didn’t adjust to it. How was that “excellent coverage”?
I was at the game – and it was crazy how wide open Heap was over the middle, as well as Rice out of the backfield.
by ExRoyalsFan on Jan 10, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Flacco did throw a handful of balls into tight coverage in addition to all the wide open looks over the middle.
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by ArrowSpread on Jan 10, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Our Safeties played so deep at times....
they were in no position to cover short and flare and circle routes. LBs did not have speed to shadow RBs or TEs across field.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
I saw McGraw 2 steps behind Heap all day.
He can move on anytime.
Keeping perspective...improvement is 6 wins, but I think 8 is attainable.
And he went the wrong way on the Rice TD
McGraw was staring at Flacco so Flacco looked left, McGraw sprinted left (where DJ was), and Flacco threw it right.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Jan 10, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Hey I got a question for you guys....
I watched the game…but I wasnt zeroing in on the secondary coverage and Heaps coverage…
Over at Walter crap ball dot com. Walter was saying how Berry was getting burned on Heap coverage….
I thought it was McGraw all day long? mostly from what you guys were saying during the game. Can someone clear that up?
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on Jan 10, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
I think all of them got beat by Heap at some point.
McGraw seemed to get burned the most over the middle when they brought in extra DB’s.
Keeping perspective...improvement is 6 wins, but I think 8 is attainable.
Hey, I really like Cassel but I'm just trying to be realistic. He's a pro and I saw
several times when Charles or someone “was” wide open and Cassel did not see them. Cassel is excellent when things are going our way, but when he starts to get pressured, his decisions really suffer. I wish it wasn’t so but from what I can see, and I’m sure not an authority to any degree, he just starts to melt with pressure. A QB like Matt can take a real strong team a long way but I don’t believe that he can consistantly win big games against the better teams. No hate here at all, I’ve just got serious doubts.
I agree.
Cassel was in over his head and it was obvious.
by bamachief5558 on Jan 10, 2011 11:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I got my ass chewed for making a similar comment...
a couple weeks ago. He’s is definitely not going to have ‘ice’ put after his name anytime soon.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Naturally, that's the point. Coverage is never perfect but I can guarentee
that if you had a tape, you would also find Chief’s open. Cassel did not have any sacks in the first half and if he were cooler, I’ll bet there were receivers open. he just could not put them in there, did not have the cool, like Flacco did. After they started pressuring him, he folded.
The Ravens' secondary was just smothering.
Cassel was throwing under pressure most of the day and, what looked like good decisions when they left his hands (like a throw to Moeaki in what was over the middle) turned into INTs because the secondary read his eyes and closed the gap too quickly.
Yeah, he had several turnovers, but I think that’s more of a credit to Baltimore’s defense than it was a knock on Cassel. They ate us alive in the second half yesterday.
Wasn't Dex supposed to be our speed guy?
I mean, in theory. Destroying shoes with his juke moves and all that?
Because I would rather pay Fitz over Bowe. Fitz is more mature, doesn’t drop balls, and brings the same skillset as Bowe.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 10, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I dont understand...
Why you would want to play for the Cardinals when you can come play for the Chiefs. We are up and coming.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on Jan 10, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Draft defensive players, pick up FA WRs
College WRs are harder to handicap, whereas defensive players are “easier” to get a read on. Are there any Dez Bryants in the draft this year? Julio? Green? Not likely. Get a proven WR from FA and draft the hell out of some LBs, DL, OL, etc.
Pioli doesn’t part with draft picks unless he’s getting the deal.
But why are we worried? The CBA is going to f*ck everything up. Turds.
F*ck KU and f*ck the Donkeys. CATS and CHIEFS all day baby!!!
I would take Blackman from Ok state
by Okchiefchop on Jan 10, 2011 10:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
My bad...
I was calling the NFL turds, not my fellow APers. But thanks for keeping your response civil…butt face.
F*ck KU and f*ck the Donkeys. CATS and CHIEFS all day baby!!!
I'm keeping Fitz on my wish list.
That’s why they call it a “wish list”. You know it probably won’t happen…but you wish it would.
Chiefs will.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
by Scott B. on Jan 10, 2011 10:43 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
So am I.
“Talks” doesn’t make it a done deal. You know he’s going to want to be the highest payed WR in the league.
by idahochieffan on Jan 10, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Actually "talks"
Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!
Fail
I meant to say that actually talks could mean that he is telling them that he wants out of Arizona, and they are saying lets sign you to a big contract so that we can both get the best out of the trade. Even if he has a new contract doesn’t mean that he is off the market.
Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!
I think the best course of action for the Chiefs
is to draft young talent and develop them without the high initial price tags.
"The Hammer"
disagree...I think the best course of action for the chiefs....
Is to balance young draft talent with good free agency deals…..
like for instance…something like this….
Nagata NT ravens
Woodly OLB steelers
WR 1st round
Wisinwiski C 2nd round trade up…burn the 3rd rounder to do it.
There you just filled 4 holes on the chiefs….with the draft alone you can only fill about 2 immediately.
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on Jan 10, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Do you seriously think the Ravens and Steelers really let Ngata and Woodly walk?
I would love this to happen but come on…..
Cornstar!
I’d like to hear his source. Chiefs wouldn’t let that leak. They don’t let anything leak.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 10, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently, Weis leaked it.
@bobfescoe reports that Charlie Weis held court after the game Sunday, saying that he was stripped of play-calling duties in the 2nd half.
YAAAAAY! Now you go, lady!
unreal...
I thought the O looked 1,000x better in the first half…this news makes the loss even more depressing
The 2010 Kansas City Chiefs draft class will go down in history as one of the single greatest draft classes in the history of the league.
by OnlyKCFanNVA on Jan 10, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
You’re probably right. I know it isn’t required, but to everyone who is out hundreds of dollars from yesterday alone.. to everyone who spent their hard-earned dollars throughout the season.. we the fans deserve to know.
by ExRoyalsFan on Jan 10, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Jerheme Urban
While he won’t be the savior to our WR group, he might be able to help out some. We need a solid #2 guy, and I’d love to see us using McCluster as a WR and not just a trick play guy or diversion.
Or maybe we could pull off the wildcat with McCluster—teach the guy to toss the ball a bit this offseason?
I’m starting to have serious doubts about McCluster…
by ExRoyalsFan on Jan 10, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
It was his rookie season. I think the pick was the right call. I guy that can play slot WR/RB/KR/wildcat. He just hit a rookie wall. Give the guy a chance to take a step forward, especially as a WR. They take time to develop.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 10, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
And his injury
High ankle sprains are terrible. Even though he returned to a point in which he could play, I doubt that he was truly 100%.
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
He will be more of a weapon if we get some receiving threats.
He is a good weapon if you have to focus on other players. When he is on the field, attention goes directly to him without worry of other receivers beating you.
Keeping perspective...improvement is 6 wins, but I think 8 is attainable.
Agreed...
Welker had those amazing seasons when teams had to account for Moss over the top. If we can get a legit vertical threat like Breaston I could easily see the underneath stuff opening up for both McCluster and Moeaki.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 10, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
If I saw him take a role of a normal player and fail, I'd agree with you.
But every time he enters the game, the opposing team knows a trick play is in the cards. I want to see if he can be a legitimate player, then use him for trick plays after he’s established himself as a WR/RB.
by 1kmilesfromkc on Jan 10, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Ryan Kerrigan please
I like Vrabel but he’s one of the weakest links on the front 7. I dont care if he’s a “coach on the field”. It’s time for some of the younger players to step up and take that title while being productive. Eric Berry showed yesterday that he seems willing to want to take the team on his back and lead. But back to Kerrigan (from Purdue), I very strongly feel that drafting a pass rusher to be opposite Hali (assuming he is resigned) would pay huge dividends for the entire team. Teams would not convert as many 3rd downs, teams wouldnt control the clock like the Ravens did yesterday, QBs would be more likely the force throws to avoid sacks/hits, teams would punt more, KC would get better field position. One person or position REALLY COULD make that much of an impact. Get that second pass rusher and the other needs (WR, DT, OL), wouldnt seem so urgent.
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
by kc_radrh8r on Jan 10, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Stude
Isn’t signed to a big contract. If we get someone better than him for the possition, he can stay on special teams and situational downs. I hope he does great, but he right now is a solid nickel back up.
Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!
by fleetmarine on Jan 10, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You can never have too many pass rushers
As of now, Hali is the only real threat. I like Wallace Gilberry and Studebaker and was glad to see Studebaker get the contract extension, but Hali and those two cant do it alone. Look at the Giants Super Bowl run a few years back for an example- they had Strahan, Osi, Justin Tuck, and Mathias. They signed Chris Canty the following season (though they lost Strahan). It doesn’t matter if these players are all technically the same position. Great coaches will find ways to utilize great players.
Rex Ryan, in both Baltimore and now in New York, often runs a 1-5-5 nickel package to mix things up. During the Colts game Saturday night, I often saw Jason Taylor standing up over the A gap, which is the last thing you’d expect from a guy like Taylor. It’s definitely unconventional, but as I said, you can never have too many great pass rushers and they’ll all find a way onto the field.
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
Well....
Considering NYG runs a 4-3 and we run a 3-4. Huge difference. I could see Osi and Tuck possibly being able to transition to a 3-4 OLB, due to their atlheticism, but otherwise, the others mentioned would have had to stay at 4-3 DEs.
While I agree, Great coaches will find ways to utilize great players. The coaches can only teach so much, the rest is up to the players to bring to fruition.
Is JC Jesus Christ or Jamaal Charles? I think they both will be our savior.
by 25JCPavedTheWay on Jan 10, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
delegate studebaker to backup. Depth is good
He’s not overly paid and is a team player.
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
I like Akeem Ayers...
better. Kerrigan doesn’t look athletic enough to take on TEs on that strong side. Ayers is capable of shutting down TEs, stopping the run, and adding a pass rush. Studebaker would be an excellent player to have as depth.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 10, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah...
I think you might be right, but I think he has a shot to fall.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jan 10, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget about Cameron Sheffield
He was looking pretty good as a pass rusher in the preseason before his injury. Granted he’ll still essentially be a rookie, but I don’t think you can overlook the guy yet.
If both He and Cottam can come back next season I’d expect them both to be upgrades over what we had this year.
Predictions:
This year IS be better.
oh, and...
Todd Haley doesn't give a damn about your fantasy team.
WR
and maybe hybrid 43/34 rushers. That’s about all I see. I’m not high on many of the o-linemen and I dont see any nose tackle prospects worth being picked in the top 100. Luckily for us, WR and OLB are needs IMO.
Your eyes tell you more than any statistics can.
I dont see any nose tackle prospects worth being picked in the top 100.
Not even Powe? I’d take him with our third round pick.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Jan 10, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
They have to be pitching 1 hell of a plan for him
Losing another big WR, outside McNabb I don’t see any other option for em at QB, losing good coaches(assuming Grimm leaves, unless he already has). That guy is 1 loyal football player
This doesn't make sense.
I thought he wanted to win. Cardinals are a mess right now with QB issues and defense issues…
Start the discussions now and see what they can bring in... if it continues to be crap then don't sign and walk away.
Cornstar!
by BigRedChief on Jan 10, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
I agree...
I was also partially confused why the headline said he could be crossed off the wishlist as well…
It was my understanding
that Fitzgerald was a free agent this year, not after next.
Im not willing to give up too many picks for Fitz
Fitz will get re-signe dor go to highest bidder. I saw how quicly we got out of the Boldin sweeptstakes. Doubt we sell the franchise (1st and 3rd is steep for our team). I’d rather grab Sidney rice and not give up the picks. Or go with breaston/j. jones/mark clayton/etc as our #2. Even draft Blackmon if he declares.
We need those picks in rd1-3 to continue to add depth.
Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan
Draft Blackmon!
And another edge rusher to take pressure off the young secondary.
Also, we need a grizzled backup QB to mentor Cassel like Brunell on the Jets
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jan 10, 2011 12:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
All they are saying now is "Talks"
Like someone said the talks could be Fitz saying he is tired of playing for a team with no Quarterback. I still think that there is a chance to get Fitz. Until I hear that he signed a contract I will have hopes for him coming to the Chiefs.
Off season - Trade ARIZONA enough to get Fitzgerald w/o destroying our draft (if he doesn't sign an extension!)
Pick 1 - Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State (Team Captain)Projected to go around 24th.
Pick 2 - Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi (Team Captain)6'2" 320 Rd 2-3
Pick 3 - Demarcus Love OT - Arkansas (Team Captain)6'5" 315
Pick 4 - Edmund Gates WR - Abilene Christian (Team Captain)
"Individuals go to Pro Bowls, teams win championships" (Scott Pioli)
"Everyone has a plan 'til they get punched in the mouth" (Mike Tyson)
some 2011 free agents i like.
WR. Sidney Rice, Braylon Edwards, Malcom Floyd, Steve Smith, Steve Breaston, Randy Moss.
LB
Tamba Hali, Chad Greenway, Lamarr Woodley, Haloti Ngata
OL
Tyson Clabo
As much as I like Curtis as a slot guy and keeping him around...
Id’ much rather see Lance Moore in red and gold. Moore, Bowe and a new draftee. McCluster and Tucker and we’re set.
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