The Kansas City Chiefs Options With Jarrad Page
by Joel Thorman on Sep 3, 2010 5:05 PM CDT
in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Preseason
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PrintKansas City Chiefs safety Jarrad Page has reportedly signed his free agent tender. This now means, if the report is accurate, he is officially part of the Chiefs roster.
What Page has done by not signing his tender until now is save over $500,000 in fines he would have incurred by skipping training camp. Of course he wasn't under contract so he couldn't be fined.
His tender amount was $1.759 million but the Chiefs had the option of reducing it another $64,000 back in July. We're not sure if they ever did that.
All that said, here are the Chiefs options at this point.
They can place him on the roster exempt list. This is the option that I think has a good shot of happening because it can buy the Chiefs time.
Here's the relevant portion of the CBA that talks about it.
If the player has not reported at least the day before the Club’s fourth pre-season game, he may be placed on roster exempt until the day following the third regular season game scheduled after the date he actually reports.
Basically, he wouldn't count against the roster and, if I can read the CBA correctly, he wouldn't be paid (I actually can't confirm he wouldn't be paid). The big thing though is he wouldn't count against the roster. That's really the only way Page can force the Chiefs hand.
They can keep him. This option this highly unlikely considering everything that has transpired. Page's reps publicly called the Chiefs "vindictive" while asking for a trade. Plus, he clearly doesn't have a future with the Chiefs at safety.
They can release him. Again, this options doesn't seem that likely considering the Chiefs have dug their heels in to this point. If this were an option, you gotta think they wouldn't have tendered him in the first place.
They can trade him. Now that he has signed his tender, he can be traded. This would appear to be an option since keeping him and releasing him don't seem like options. He couldn't be traded until he signed the tender.
They can place him on PUP. I'm not sure how likely this is but I suppose he could "fail" a conditioning test -- or if he's not in shape -- and the Chiefs could put him on the physically unable to perform list to start the season. Remember, he's coming off of a season-ending injury.
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Jarrad AND his brother made a mess
The 5th Dimension
#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 3, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
team page=fail
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Time to "turn the page" and start anew?
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#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 3, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It appears Page is Still Runnin' Against The Wind.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
by BigRedChief on Sep 3, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
just "Like A Rock"
And not in a good way…
by Skrappy on Sep 3, 2010 7:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I told you that his agent wasn't that smart.
A “Chess move by Page”. Ha.
If there is no trade in the works Page lost all his leverage.
Page is playing checkers
Pioli is playing chess.
by Offense of the 70s on Sep 3, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
trade him, if you can't, use that roster exempt for 3 weeks so he gets no pay, and sits there...try to trade him throughout that time, and if you can't THEN you cut him
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Yep
That’s the way it’s gonna go down (at least it would seem that way).
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Putting him on the PUP list would make them look a little vindictive.
But putting him on roster exempt pretty much screams out that they’re buying time and trying to work out a trade… teams aren’t likely going to trade for him.
He’s just going to end up getting cut.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 3, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
nah, being vindictive would be the chiefs...
putting him on the exempt list and then placing him on the pup list for a total of 9 games. not sure if they can do that but that would sure be vindictive…and make me laugh.
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by MountainManMike on Sep 3, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
they don't have to buy time to trade him
they just have to buy time to figure out the 54th man on the team, to be cut if they have to swallow it and put him on the roster.
so three weeks gives them time.
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
by chief Stevie_k on Sep 3, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...
What drills might Haley have him do for the “conditioning test?”
I’d love to be there for that one. Not vindictive or anything.
I'm not too sure I would want to be there for that...
The 5th Dimension
#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Sep 3, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow that's a great option for the Chiefs
Great job Joel.
I think it’s cool that the NFL thought of this happening and went out of its way to give the team options in such a case. It keeps the player from having too much leverage.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Good Information
Was not aware of the roster exempt option, but sure sounds like the best option to get time for a trade deal.
If either of the Page brothers could read...
They may have already known this, but somehow I doubt it.
If the player has not reported at least the day before the Club’s fourth pre-season game, he may be placed on roster exempt until the day following the third regular season game scheduled after the date he actually reports.
Could they be reading this now on AP, jumping around the apartment going, “Dang!”
yeah, I wish there was some grainy footage of hard knocks:jarrad page on youtube showing their reaction to the breaking AP news
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
I believe the roster exempt list is essentially a 3 game suspension.
I do not believe he can be activated prior to that if placed on the list (not that it really matters).
Next step, agent?
New business cards for Joel Thorman in 2011:
* * * NFL Player Agent * * *
More informed than some agents
Hopefully, a deal is already in the works.
Otherwise, the chances of ever getting any kind of value for Page are pretty much zero.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
So if my math is correct...
The Page’s power move (not signing 2 days ago) just cost him a little over $300,000.
I agree.
I think there must be a trade in the works, otherwise this was a terrible move by Page. If he was going to sign the tender he should have done it Wednesday. Otherwise you sit out until week 10 (in order to get your “earned” season)
So does the tag value have full affect on the new team?
or do they have to create a new contract to negate the 1.What Million salary
Ninja Ass
Good info, Joel
I thought there was something that could be used when a player didn’t report until after the preseason was over. Thanks for the work.
I went to NFL.com trying to find the rules. I found the rule book, but I couldn’t find team rules. Maybe because it’s a CBA thing. Where did you find this?
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yeah, makes it pretty clear for everyone...he can sit for three weeks then get cut, or someone can give us something for him
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
We don't have to cut him
So if you want him make an offer.
A good offer, or else we keep him.
Ninja Ass
that makes no sense....why would we keep him? explain.....hes just a problem now....the chiefs are VINDICTIVE...you think hes coming back? no way
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
We have what 45 NFL players
Page is a NFL player.
Why throw him away
The Chiefs are not vindictive. The Chiefs are a business.
Does Manchester United give away players for nothing.
Ninja Ass
exactly
no NFL team, even the SuperBowl champion, is good enough to be vindictive. KC will do whatever they can to make this work for the team and it won’t be just letting a guy rot on the bench or PUP list or whatever. if they already don’t have a deal worked out for a trade, Page will suit up sometime this season.
Interesting...
It seems that the clock doesn’t start until he “reports”, which the other article says he hasn’t done yet. So his 3 games don’t start until he actually shows up?
Trade him to the Bears...
They seem to like our leftovers (at QB anyways) and they have a real problem with their Safeties so they may be willining to pony up a 5th rounder or conditional pick for him.
I say trade him to one of the NY Teams
1.7 mill can barely get you an apartment in the hood. plus we would be saying that our rookies are way better than any leadership….wait i mean experience he brings
Trade him to the Broncos.... he'll have a blown out knee in a week.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
They Should......
talk to the Steelers and trade him for Hartwig.
by ChiefsFan4Life634 on Sep 3, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
or.....
to the Cowboys for Sam Hurd
by ChiefsFan4Life634 on Sep 3, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Serious Question.
Technically is he reporting? He’s signing, right. It’s not like he’s been under contract and not showing up.
If we sign a player that gets cut from another team today, can we place them on “roster exempt?” It seems like a similar situation (but I’m not an expert).
Nevermind
Just read the whole part of the CBA and it applies to Page’s situation.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 3, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Page’s situation
restricted free agent not under contract
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 3, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
What I would do....
Is roster exempt him for the first three weeks. If a trade isnt made within those 3 weeks give him another impassable physical then IR him.
impassable physical
If it’s anything more than what the rest of the team has to do, there will be problems.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 3, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That sucks....
What about there being a way that he doesnt pass our physical and IR him that way?
Wasn't it the same test all Redskins have to do?
Changing the rules for Page just isn’t smart. He knows what Haley asks. I’d bet he can run the drill now and pass it.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 3, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
from my understanding
Haynesworth had a special conditioning test that he had to take. Nobody else took it because EVERYONE else showed up to training camp and off-season workouts. So there wasn’t a precedent for the conditioning test.
Thus, the conditioning test was unique to Haynesworth.
Tecnically, Page is the only one who didn’t show up to training camp or play in pre-season games. He hasn’t did anything physical in what, 8 or 9 months? His conditioning test should be harder. Vindictive or not. He hasn’t played in forever.
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
by chief Stevie_k on Sep 3, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That would just be playing right into his vindictive claims
I’m sure they’ll do whatever they can to trade him and if it doesn’t work out, he’ll just get cut like Pollard.
Regardless...
I think we have all read the last “page” of this novella and can finally close the book on this ass-jockey…
2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...
In all honesty...
Unless a team takes a big hit at the safety position JP doesnt have a lot of trade value. Hopefully we sent in that letter the the NFLPA and can exempt him for three weeks but i think in the end bh13 is right, JP will prolly just be cut.
Here's another applicable part of the CBA.
(v) No player may be placed on roster exempt under this Subsection
unless the Club has provided written notice to the player and the NFLPA
of its intent to place the player on roster exempt at least five (5) days prior
to the Club’s second pre-season game. Once such written notice is provided,
the Club must place the player on roster exempt in accordance with
Subsections (i)-(iii) above.
Joel, you know anyone at the NFLPA that can tell us if this was done? I assume Pioli and his crew would be on this if it’s their intent to roster exempt Page.
Nope
Tried that avenue a few weeks back….the Chiefs are very good at keeping things close to the vest.
hey Joel
Was there any benefit of JP signing today vs 2 days ago if the Chiefs did in fact contact the NFLPA prior to the 2nd preseason game?
I can think of only 2 reasons to sign today.
1. They have a trade in the works.
2. His non agent brother did not know it mattered amd screwed up.
by saskwatch on Sep 3, 2010 6:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i imagine jarrad and his brother just decided early on
that they would just wait until right before cuts to sign so they can try and pressure the chiefs
i bet Jarrad’s brother didn’t know it made a difference
trade him to the browns
and let him rot there.
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