On Shaun Smith Incident, Chiefs Coach Says He Goes By The Officials

by Joel Thorman on Sep 28, 2010 3:12 PM CDT in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Season

For the second week in a row an opposing player has accused Kansas City Chiefs DE Shaun Smith of grabbing someone below the belt during a play. In Week 2, Cleveland Browns C Alex Mack said he was grabbed and in Week 3 San Francisco 49ers RT Anthony Davis claimed he was grabbed.

There is video evidence of the play last week which seems to back up Davis' claim.

Here's what Chiefs head coach Todd Haley said about it today when asked during his press conference:

"I know nothing about the accusations," Haley said. "I know the question yesterday [in the press conference] was asked...something I kind of get the gist of but, again, I think these officials are the best there are. They're really good at a very difficult job, very difficult job. Again, I go by what they tell me and I think that's a good practice and something I've learned along the way."

The officials didn't call anything on Smith in Week 2 or Week 3. Smith was not fined in Week 2. The vvideo evidencee in Week 3 may be a different story.

"I'm unaware of the talk about it, I really am, other than the question yesterday," Haley said. "I can't answer that question. That's all I got on it. I'm going by officials, what they tell me."

Friday Fine Day will solve this one.

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From watching that video

you can’t tell if he grabbed anything and if he did it while he was falling down and not really looking then he has better aim than most people.

All in all I don’t care, I don’t think he should be grabbing people in the nards (“Kick him in the nards. The Wolfman doesn’t have nards. Kick him in the nards! The Wolfman has nards.” – an obscure movie quote for ya) but out defense has more attitude on it now than it has in about 10 years and I love that.

Insert witty yet thought provoking phrase here.

by Fozzyboyd on Sep 28, 2010 3:23 PM CDT reply actions

Monster Squad is obscure?!!!

by RA_ChiefsFan on Sep 28, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Most of my friends don't remember it

Maybe I need new friends.

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by Fozzyboyd on Sep 28, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Shaun Smith

The Kansas City Chiefs Ball Breaker. I like when our defense gets the 3rd and 16-yards to go…It allows us to tee off on the opposing quarterback.

Grab whatever ya’ like Smith, just don’t make Derrick Johnson smell your hand. He’d knock you the f___ out!

by ChiefsatWar on Sep 28, 2010 3:24 PM CDT reply actions

Even from the video and the replays

I just can not say that there is enough evidence taht he grabbed, sure we all know what he did, but really, look at it in a way of overturning a fumble or something. The evidence just really isnt overwhelming

by readANDgold58 on Sep 28, 2010 3:28 PM CDT reply actions

Plus

The coaching staff has been telling him to go out there and “manhandle” to other team.

It is clear that Shaun was thinking “well I know what my man handle is, so I guess I will go grab his?”

Sounds like a logical explanation to me

by readANDgold58 on Sep 28, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Can't really say anything that hasn't been said on this... So I'll express myself through pictures:

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 28, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs

Brandon Albert was just asked about the play on Sirius Moving the Chains.

Brandon denied knowing about the incident and said he would have to review the tape to comment. The national media is really talking about this a lot more than I ever expected. I played high school ball and I have had worse done to me in piles and I have done worse to others. This kind of stuff has to happen more often than we think. I don’t understand how this can become an issue in the national media.

by OnlyKCFanNVA on Sep 28, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions

Anything

that trivializes the Chiefs success is a good story if you are the national media.

by JaySoy on Sep 28, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

What?

What could be worse?

by BDay42 on Sep 28, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

I bet Walter Football is figuring out a way to incorporate that into his blurb on us

if we ever crack his top ten that is.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Sep 28, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions

And this should probably be hung in the opponents' locker room at Arrowhead:

by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 28, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions

unaware of the talk? how on Earth could Haley be unaware of what's become a nationwide hot topic in both print and audio meida?

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by upamtn on Sep 28, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions

He's not...Haley is talking bullshit.

Either that, or he’s just clueless.

Chiefs will. But...will Cassel?

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Sep 28, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm guessing bullshit...

by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 28, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah, watch this video

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=18788695

Doesn’t it seem like Pope and McGraw were “coached” on how to answer that question?

I kinda got a laugh out of McGraw… sounded just like Haley, but he was grinning and laughing a little

It's all about the gameplan

by stagdsp on Sep 28, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions

He knows it's not worth discussing from his perspective.

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by KeepItCopacetic on Sep 28, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions

It is unfortunate that

Smith’s reputation has been tainted by this…

by WoodyardBBQ on Sep 28, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions

He lost that America's Sweetheart tag he earned from punching Brady Quinn

Guy needs a medal for doing what we’ve all wanted to do

Anthrax, ham radio, and liquor.

by KeyboardGato on Sep 28, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions

I think of it a bit differently ...

it’s unfortunate the Chiefs reputation has been tainted by what Smith’s done

by upamtn on Sep 28, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Actually, I should have used the sarcastic font for the

word “Tainted.” Get it?

Crickets. Crickets. Crickets. I suppose I shouldn’t quit my day job for a stand-up routine…

by WoodyardBBQ on Sep 28, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh and referring to that pic of him

Wasnt that the same hand that he used to grab?

God Shaun your sick man, what are you doing smelling it like that?

by readANDgold58 on Sep 28, 2010 3:36 PM CDT reply actions

Video doesn't show much

but I’m sure the league has other, better angles they can look at.

If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.

by IISaiNtII on Sep 28, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions

If anything it shows that Davis should of been ejected from the game.

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by porkchop_sandwiches on Sep 28, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions

Why was Haley visibly upset at Smith after the play

if he had no idea about it?

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 28, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions

Jesus...

I don’t understand why everyone ia making such a huge deal about this… He is playing physically and mentally and I dig it… Keep em’ on their toes Shaun!!!

by dmprice on Sep 28, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions

Just not enough hard evidence to say he did

But there was enough to show Davis did kidney punch shaun . he should be suspended for a game at least.

CHIEFS fan 4 life

by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Sep 28, 2010 6:40 PM CDT reply actions

I don't know if the NFL would be more understanding given the circumstances.

In 2006, NBA player Chris Kaman had a fine rescinded for punching/shoving/something along those lines an opponent during a playoff game after he accused the other player of doing the same thing Smith’s accused of doing here. Video wasn’t conclusive, but the NBA didn’t want to fine him for possibly retaliating to this.

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by KeepItCopacetic on Sep 29, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions

The Chiefs now have their own Nutcracker on defense.

His special Michael Jackson-like abilities is good for 1-3 penalties against the opposing team a game. Unusual way of doing things, but his jobs is to improve the Kansas City Chiefs’ chances of winning the football games…that 1-3 penalties a game against the opposing team sure comes in handy with helping us win football games. Hey, whatever gets the job done…I guess.

Great upset KU!!! Which team is the real Jayhawks though? The one who beat a Top 15 team or the one who loss to a football subdivision team.

by ChiefsFan90s on Sep 28, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions

Watch out, Indy...

the Junkman cometh.

JC + TJ = 2500 yards. Bankable.

by sb_hatchetman on Sep 28, 2010 11:50 PM CDT reply actions

Now all he needs is more sacks.

JC + TJ = 2500 yards. Bankable.

by sb_hatchetman on Sep 29, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Look, hes crazy and he wants people to think hes crazy

Just let the guy play and if he gets caught and fined then he’ll have to stop. In the mean time he is playing well and I like his no hold barred attitude (even if I wouldn’t want play across from him which I’m sure is the point).

by Lucasjr5 on Sep 29, 2010 2:30 AM CDT reply actions

If one of our guys...

… was on the recieving end of this, we’d all be going apesh!t. Physical defense or not, playing dirty is what got me to hate the Raiders in the 80s and what caused me to love the Chiefs. Definately not cool.

by MaxiVisVires on Sep 29, 2010 2:36 AM CDT reply actions

Was watching the tape yesterday...

from the game replay website and it appears that Vernon Davis took a shot at Shaun Smiths grundle in the 2nd quarter. About the 36 minute mark of the video. Davis and Smith were locked up on a run play and ended on the ground. Smith stands up and is standing over Davis who sort of pushes him, then you see him swing straight up towards Smiths cup. The camera cuts away right when it happens so tough to say exactly if there was contact or not.

by dragon6172 on Sep 29, 2010 4:12 AM CDT reply actions