How And Why The Kansas City Chiefs Will Beat The Indianapolis Colts
by Aiken_Drum on Sep 28, 2010 12:40 PM CDT
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I can hear it already. I can hear all of you that are collectively saying "Aiken just doesn't get it". "I mean, ok," you would opine, "he predicted that we would beat the Chargers on MNF and he was right, but that was just because it was a big game and Arrowhead was rocking and it rained and the Chargers fell down and we got lucky, so Aiken was right. Big deal. Then he predicted a road win against a hapless Cleveland team and yeah, he got that one right as well. Once again the Chiefs lucked out and held on to a win by 2 points. Ultimate Chiefs Homer Aiken_Drum gets lucky and goes 2-0".
About this time is when a few of you started to feel me on the CHIEFS WILL thing but most were like, "Then we go up against the 49ers and SURPRISE, Aiken is still on the train stoking the fire. Yeah I have to admit that the Chiefs played better than I ever thought they would and the 49er win was great, but now it's reality time. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, because we could lose. Come on, beat the Colts? I love your enthusiasm Aiken, but it's time to STOP THE MADNESS". COULD lose, says I? I guess getting you from iron-clad, gauranteed, will lose to could lose can be considered progress.
I have a few reasons for my belief that the Chiefs will beat the Colts. Follow along if you will, and see just how crazy I am (or if you prefer, how crazy I am not). Madness is a funny thing. Sometimes I feel a little like Stanley. Stanley is one of the most respected football prognosticators to ever have graced the planet. Stanley knew things that others didn't and had faith in them in the face of adversity. You don't know Stanley? Some of you do and some don't but here is a sample of his work.
NIKE Super Bowl Commercial 1995 (via MLoudin)
Stanley notwithstanding, I understand your point of view of how wrong I could be. Right now, a lot of Chiefs fans are waking up to the fact that a few of us have known for some time, namely that the 2010 Chiefs are a dangerous football team. It's like being in the Twilight Zone. Remember the part of the introduction where the host says, "There's your signpost up ahead"? The signpost telling us that the Chiefs are improving has been there for some time. These first three games of the season have focused more light on it andcleared away a bit of the fog surrounding it. Now, not only Chiefs fans are seeing it, but pundits, progosticators and peers are all taking note. The sign simply says "CHIEFS WILL".
My reasoning for a Chiefs victory over the Colts is next.
Arian Foster ESPN Week 1 Interview (via MShell6692)
The Texans defeated the Colts in week one of this season by utilizing the services of a little known (outside of fantasy football circles anyway) running back by the name of Arian Foster. This game has exposed the Colts defense for what it is, absolutely horrible against the run. They are currently tied at 28th in the leaguevs. the run. They have given up 424 yards in three weeks for an average of 141 per game. If you want a little perspective on that, you need look no further than the 49ers. Even after the schelacking that we gave them last week, their defense held onto 15th place giving up 334 yards in those three games (192 of those yards belong to the Chiefs--nearly 2/3 of the total against a pretty decent defense). That is 90 yards less than what the Colts have given up in the same 3 game span, which includes what Mr. Foster was able to force feed them. The news here that I have beaten around the bush to build up to, is that a team that has a running game like the Chiefs have, is exactly what the Colts don't want to face. I give you the Texans and Arian Foster as example.
Houston Texans vs. Indianapolis Colts WK1 2010 (via CarterPoindexter)
In addition to being weak against the run, the Colts are not so hot against the pass either. The Colts are currently 20th against the pass having given up 707 yds in the air in the first three weeks of the season. That's and average of 235 yds per game. They are currently tied for 25th (with the Rams--THE FREAKIN RAMS PEOPLE) in the league in total yards given up. This defense will give up yards on the ground and in the air. The reason that they have been successful so far is that they are winning the turnover battles. This is an oportunistic defense. They already have 3 interceptions, 7 sacks, 3 defensive fumble recoveries and 4 forced fumbles in their first three games. Add that to Peyton Manning as your QB and it has been enough to win 2 of their first three.
Why do the Chiefs win? I believe that the Chiefs running game is strong enough to stand on it's own vs. any opponent, especially one that has already demonstrated the fact that they can't stop Betty White from running up the gut. I think that the Colts will dare Cassle to throw the ball by stacking the box against our run. Arian Foster was a pretty good indicator that even when the colts do that, they can't stop lightning in a bottle (AKA Jamal Charles).
Even if they do slow down our run a bit, the other side of the offense made a statement last Sunday. Why do you think that we ran the flea-flicker when we were ahead by 2 TDs? We had not done anything remotely similar to that in the first two games and they were certainly closer matches than the 49ers were at that point. Why did we do it? Weis is a genius, that's why. He was telling the Colts, "Go ahead and stack the box. This is what you will get". The Colts will have to respect our passing game enough that it will make us a really dangerous team.
If the Chiefs go out and protect Haley's football, put together a solid game plan (what else could Weis do?), and take care of business on Defense (TJack and O'Cal will be back) we will shock the NFL in two weeks. I apologize for saying this, but Peyton is just enough arrogant to be looking past a grubby little team like the Chiefs. Tamba, Ron Edwards and Maybe the Sackmaster (Shaun Smith--sorry but it was worth your grin) will leave him with an impression--right in the middle of his facemask.
Peyton Manning has been a thorn in the Chiefs side for long enough. Don't you think that with the extra time to study before this game that there will be a meeting in the film room to watch this?
Chiefs vs Colts 2004 Playoffs (via geepez)
And then, when the Chiefs are considering how to avenge their distant brothers from that playoff loss, I'd show'em something a bit more recent like this from before the 23-8 drubbing of an '07 playoff embarassment that was the beginning of the end for a guy whose mantra was, "You play to win the game".
Wildcard Preview Chiefs vs Colts (via CBS)
Wow! Change a few players names and this sounds almost like a game plan for this upcoming game, right? WRONG!!!! The difference? Scott Pioli, Todd Haley, Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis.
I have seen no one talking about this so get ready to become excited. The Duo of Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel as Offensive Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator of the New England Patriots met up against Peyton and his Colts exactly six times between September 30, 2001 and January 16, 2005. Guess what? In six meetings, these guys defeated the Colts every, single, solitary, time they stepped on the field.
Romeo and Charlie KNOW Peyton. And so far, when they were on the same team, in the positions that they currently hold, they have never lost to him. How powerful a message is that to telegraph to these Chiefs? Do you think that will give them a bit of confidence? Hoooooboy.
Two of those six games were playoff games. Don't you think Peyton was giving it his best? In those two games, the Pats beat the Colts by an average of 13.5 pts per game. Check this out from NFL wire reports.com after Romeo and Charlie's final playoff victory (enroute to their final Super Bowl win I might add) against MVP Manning in 2005:
For the second year in a row, the Pats made the league's MVP look ordinary and his Indianapolis teammates inept, this time beating them 20-3 behind Corey Dillon's 144 yards rushing.
"It was just the best game plan that we've had since I've been here," Patriots safety Rodney Harrison said.
The conditions were just right for the Patriots' strategy: run the ball, throw short passes and watch the clock tick down, putting together their three most time-consuming drives of the season.
"I don't have a clue," said Edgerrin James, held to 39 yards rushing by the Patriots. "I really don't know what happened out there. I was just trying to do what I can do."
Dillon keyed a ball-control offense that kept Manning on the sideline, while Brady threw for one touchdown, ran for another and completed 18 passes in 27 attempts for 144 yards.
"I'm not even recognizing my last seven seasons right now," said Dillon, who spent them with Cincinnati. "It's all about this year."
New England (15-2) led 6-0 on Adam Vinatieri's field goals of 24 and 31 yards in the second quarter with the first one capping a 16-play, 78-yard march that lasted 9 minutes, 7 seconds.
When Brady threw a 5-yard scoring pass to David Givens to cap a third-quarter drive that lasted 8:16, Manning had to make his remaining possessions count against the hard-hitting defense.
He didn't -- and Brady followed with a 94-yard drive that ended with his 1-yard touchdown run.
The Patriots proved once again they could win without their best defenders. Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymourwas sidelined with a knee injury, and starting cornerbacks Ty Law and Tyrone Pooleare on injured reserve. But the Patriots' defense still stifled the fifth-highest scoring team in NFL history.
Didja see that last quote? I stuck that in there lest some of you more inventive types decided to say something like, "Well sure the Patriots defense was able to stifle the Colts, BUT WE AIN'T THE PATRIOTS!". No, we ain't. But then again, neither were they on that day. Guess who wasn't out with injury? Yep, Romeo and Charlie. They were there, just like they had been for the last 3 years, game planning, strategizing and BEATING Peyton Manning.
I don't know about you Chiefs fans but I have to confess that I am goddamn tired of seeing those frikin' blue and white unifoms beat us on game day. This is not just another game for me, it's payback time. Time to yank Manning's spine throught the holes in his face mask and...sorry, I digress.
This game has been on my radar since the day I found out that Romeo and Charlie were donning red and gold. I submit to you now Chiefs fans, that it has been on Scott Pioli's as well. This is why we drafted, Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster and Javier Arenas. This game, in this season, shaped Pioli's draft. He watched the Patriots get win after win after beautiful win against the great Peyton Manning, and he remembered. This win will solidify just how effective the Pioli, Weis, Crennel triumvirate has been. You already know that I think Parcells, Belechick and Haley are all interchangeable anyway.
Hell, this win (if we can get it) has been on my mind since the loss in '95 when the kicker who shall not be named screwed the pooch and that wasn't even Peyton, that was Harbaugh. Losses like that never heal, but stealing a win from Mr. Football himself, manufactured by the two guys that know how to do it gives me an overwhelming sense of gratification. Manning knowing that he can't defeat these two coaching ledgends, even when they are just taking over an upstart, lousy team like the Chiefs (his perspective not mine) comes very close to balancing the scales of justice and well, just makes me happy. Satisfys like a good Cigar and a Godfather (Scotch and Amarreto on the rocks). Poor Peyton.
Come on Chiefs fans, join me in anticipation of blowing a hole through the front door of the collective Anti Chiefs consciousness out there by beating the bloody Colts (or the Colts bloody--either one works for me). Really. It will keep me from having to do"bad things man, bad things".
Bruce Smith Bad Things (via slaphappy06)
CHIEFS WIN. CHIEFS WILL. BELIEVE
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This game will be a lot harder.
We’re going into hostile territory against a future Hall of Fame QB in Manning, notorious for ripping even decent defenses apart.
That being said, I have faith this team can win if we can a) run the ball effectively b) not turn the ball over and c) find a decent rhythm in the passing game.
It’s not a huge secret KC is an establish the run first team. I look for Indy to gameplan for our RB tandem. They’re going to attempt to force Cassel to win the game.
This is where the two weeks can help. I think Cassel and the WR/TE corps should work on communication and execution. Cassel needs to work on his timing because you can bet the Indy D-line will be after him. Cassel excels in quick, short routes. Get our speedy guys in the open field. Play to our strengths. Execute the plays called. Keep Manning off the field. Find the redzone. Chiefs pull off a victory in Indy.
And I was at the Chiefs vs. Colts playoff game in Arrowhead.
Great to see Dante Hall run one back, but not being able to force the Colts to punt killed us. I was pretty disappointed.
by SupremeChief on Sep 28, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Just remember...
We didn’t punt either…no one ever talked about that….
Yesterday is a cancelled check. Today is cash on the line. Tomorrow is a promissory note.
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GO CHIEFS!!!!
by rockchalk-ku83 on Sep 28, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll REC that! That's a stat noone ever talks about!
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
Sure they do.
Everyone talks that 2004 playoff game up about how it was the one where neither team punted. Having a game with one dominant offense is one thing — I don’t have the stats, but I’d be willing to be that [a team plays 60+ minutes without punting] happens multiple times each season — but to have both teams in a game accomplish it is why it’s so noteworthy.
Dunno. I've heard that game referenced in the national press over a dozen times since it happened,
and only ONCE did they say that both teams never punted. 99.99% of the time its referenced only that Indy never punted in that game.
Multiple times each season? Dunno. What defines Multiple in your book? 2? 4? 10?
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
I like your math
99.99% of “over a dozen” is apparently one.
Your national press in Kansas City must be different than the national press I saw in Indiana and see now in Texas. A quick googling of “2004 colts chiefs playoffs” reveals these top results -
One, two, three, and four. They each very clearly mention the fact that both punters had the day off. It was the only time this happened in NFL playoff history, so it’s worth discussing every time that game is introduced.
As for definition - 2, 4, and 10 would all be very good examples of ‘multiple’, as well as all other numbers larger than one. Again, I don’t have any stats on this (and a quick search didn’t reveal anything), so I have no proof for either side of the argument, but with 196 regular season games each year, it is logical to believe there are at least two or three in which at least one offense that marches down the field to score (or turn the ball over through interceptions/fumbles) on every drive. In 1992, the Bills/49ers played another Colts-Chiefsesque game where neither team punted for the only regular season game with this happening, but it’s harder to find games with only one team doing this.
Multiple: having or involving or consisting of more than one part or entity or individual; “multiple birth”; “multiple ownership”; “multiple teams complete an NFL game without punting each season”. So, yes -
Your 'National Media' references--aren't.
- wikipedia. Reference, yes. national sports media, nope.
- chiefswarpath.com…nope, team specific blog
- worldlingo.com …wtf?
- espn-nfl. yes.
So, one out of the four you list. Just because you find something on the net that agrees with you, does not make it a national media reference (worldlingo.com? Yeah, right)…
Using an example of what I’m talking about, mouse down to the one from USA Today…full of content about how Indy mopped the floor with us, but not a word about our punter never kicking. This is the prevailing commentary about what’s being bandied about, and more specifically, the attitude I’m talking about.
Add to that, more talk on sportscenter, nfl today, shows like that, where the commentators would mention the Colts never punting, but not the Chiefs. I watched and read these comments as they transpired, as I’m sure many other Chiefs fans have.
Oh, and I understand the definition of multiple, I don’t need your smart ass answer, thank you very much. You lost all credibility when you state:
bq.“Again, I don’t have any stats on this (and a quick search didn’t reveal anything), so I have no proof for either side of the argument, but with 196 regular season games each year, it is logical to believe.” bq.
“No stats, I have no proof, it’s logical to believe”…great ways to prove a point…I’m done here.
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
no punts that game by either team and we got screwed to
I was there all the way from Cali. The thing in that playoff game that screwed us is when they called pass interference on TG in the endzone right before the half. Then Holmes busted that huge run almost to the endzone and got stripped from behind. The refs let Manning do all that moving around bullshit to that should of been some false starts. The weather was supposed to be cold and it was 80 degrees and sunny. I’ll tell you what though, that was one of the funnest games I’ve been to. Lots of action and we should of won.
by chiefskingfromcali on Sep 30, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
watched that game in my buddies basement
probably one of the best football games I’ve ever seen, from an entertainment standpoint.
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Thanks SupremeChief
When you refer to hostile territory, would you say like playing in Cleveland’s home opener where Romeo is not well liked? On a team that had only won 8 games in the previous three years? Just saying. Every game the Chiefs play is in a hotile environment and guess what? For at least the first three outings, the Chiefs forgot that they couldn’t win. The just went out and listened to their coaches and played. So far it is working quite well.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I think the fans will show up and create noise in Indy.
Especially with Manning as their QB. It will be a tough environment. Moreso than Cleveland, IMO…especially if the Colts get off to a fast start.
by SupremeChief on Sep 28, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm hoping the fans look past us
and the stadium stays empty for the most part
2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting
If the fans that stopped by last night are any indication
They are indeed looking past us. Nice guys though.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
oh yeah they are looking past us
i read a couple of the colts fans post and they where saying we where over rated and that we where in for a wake up call on sun.
by chiefslegend58 on Oct 5, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
A wake up call?
Isn’t that what happens when the team that’s suppose to win, loses?
Last I saw, we were huge underdogs in this one. So I hope there’s a wakeup call this weekend!
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
If this was a home game I would be putting money on the Chiefs,
but since it is on the road it will take a much greater effort. We SHOULD be able to run the ball on Indy, and we SHOULD be able to stuff what little run game they have. In Indy there are no guarantees however. If anyone can come up with a gameplan that can screw with Peyton it would be Romeo, but the outcome of this game will not change my view of this team too much one way or another.
Jamie freakin Wright, nuff said.
Agree
The only thing that will make me start to doubt is if they just blow us out of the water.
Kind of the same approach I had to the SD game.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
thats not going to happen the mood this team is in and the chemistry
is coming together while the colts are falling apart talking about looking at the two sides of the spectrum. #1 Colts cant stop the run= more time possesion for us= less Manning on the field #2 there secondary took major blows #3 I doubt Addai will be able to get through this front seven Addai is less of a bruiser than Gore so we should be able to shut that down #4 the team and I trust Flowers, Carr and Arenas they are a solid group of Cbs that can hold there own, yeah and Clark your not facing the 2004 secondary that couldnt cover an elephant back there. #5 the Chiefs staff and Coaches will have this team very focused on the game plan.
by chiefslegend58 on Oct 5, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 And Dont Forget
Vrabel, the Chiefs Defensive Field General, was part of that unit at NE. Crennel has the plan and Vrabel knows how to execute it. We may not be perfect, but I think we will win on the defensive side of the ball.
by MissionJayhawk on Sep 28, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
And Lilja. Who better knows the O line than the guy who was there for 6 yrs?
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
Not much for him to know
The O-line sucks.
"Voldemort himself created his own worst enemy, just as tyrants everywhere do! Have you any idea how much tyrants fear the people they oppress?"
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Perhaps some of Peyton's checks at the line?
R-E-S-T-C-C-P! Find out what ya mean to me.. R-E-S-C-T-T-P! ... 10-6 motha@$#%!! You know how'ta spell it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK6J_zw29RY (mild cursing. ahem.)
I'm pretty sure
that they wouldn’t use the same checks that they used with RL on the team…
"Voldemort himself created his own worst enemy, just as tyrants everywhere do! Have you any idea how much tyrants fear the people they oppress?"
-A.P.W.B.D.
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May not be the same calls
But I’m willing to bet there’s some familiarity into which types of plays Peyton likes to check into given the defensive look.
R-E-S-T-C-C-P! Find out what ya mean to me.. R-E-S-C-T-T-P! ... 10-6 motha@$#%!! You know how'ta spell it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK6J_zw29RY (mild cursing. ahem.)
Very good post Aiken
Good points, and I like the optimism! I hope you’re right.
I think no matter what we’ll be able to run on them. It’s just a matter of “can we stop them enough times to win”.
Also, we cannot afford to fall behind in this game.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
We have been behind!
We were losing to the browns, and we came back from that to win, and just in case you dont remember, Phyllis Rivers scored first in the home opener. We were down 7-0, but then JC went off for 56 and the score
by readANDgold58 on Sep 28, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya know what Aiken
I’m with you. I’m convinced we are going to win this game. Their D won’t be able to slow our style of offense down and Peyton is 0-6 against our coordinators when they were in NE. And our D is more athletic than the ones in NE
Thanks to all.
Yes, it is going on the road in a difficult stadium. Our advantage? We will be running the ball alot and the noise won’t affect us as much.
Other advantages that I did not mention? Do you think Matt Cassel will be talking to Tom Brady about how to defeat the colts? How about Peyton having Crennel in his head again?
It’s the biggest game for the Chiefs since the ’07 playoff game. Time to collect.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
You inspired me to look deeper into our run game
And I think we’re an even better running team than our stats show. I did a little post on it if you want to check it out.
So thanks for the inspiration! After all, if I hadn’t been inspired to do a post, I’d be doing my schoolwork or something crazy like that!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
If Crennel can get Flowers playing like Ty Law against Peyton Manning
that would make for a fun game. Nothing more fun than seeing a QB frustrated for throwing another pick.
by theaxeeffect4721 on Sep 29, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Ain't that the truth! Ty seemed to really have Peyton's #.
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
Just talked about the Denver plan used "successfully" against Indy
Denver used the same bracket/double-triple coverage on Dallas Clark that we used on Gates in week 1, and put their best cover corner in Champ Bailey on Reggie Wayne. I won’t claim that Flowers is on the same level of Bailey (yet) but I think he can hold his own against Wayne, and there isn’t a lot of players in the NFL, if any, that can get open consistently with double or triple coverage, no matter what their talent is. Denver just couldn’t cover the #2 and #3 receivers in Collie and White. I like our chances with Carr, Arenas, Lewis, and DJ helping cover these other Indy receivers, and I’m not worried at all about their running game. If we can disrupt the Colts timing, and successfully diguise our coverages, which Romeo always seemed pretty good at doing against Peyton, then we have a VERY good chance to win this game
"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter
I like the idea on how to use our secondary
We have a much deeper secondary than DEN does (this is where Arenas will be crucial, hope he gets better fast), and our safeties are much faster than theirs are and more able to aid in coverage.
And yes, RC has had a LOT of success against the Colts. I remember when it was every year the Pats would take the Colts down in the playoffs. The Colts only started getting by them after RC left…
Coincidence? Maybe… but it’s still interesting.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Also gotta think
we’ll be getting a hell of a lot more pressure than DEN did. The talent level of our front 7 is just a bit more than DEN
2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting
We're a better team than Denver in every sense of the word
Their defense is crippled without Doom.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
This was an excellent post Aiken and one of the best that I have read. On October 10, 2010, the Chiefs will ride the ponies (Colts) like nature intended at last!!!!!!!!!!
O! Great Aikendamus of Arrowhead, I beseech thee!
please bestow your wisdom upon this most humble servant and tell me, pray tell me, which stocks I should consider in the forthcoming days? my portfolio is sadly lacking and I truly need something with about a 500% positive return …
any ideas?
oh, and what’s the final score gonna be on this Chiefs-Colts game, I need to know before I call Louie down in Vegas …
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by upamtn on Sep 28, 2010 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Predictions are a strange thing
When you are wrong, most people just shrug it off and it’s never brought up again (unless you are Chiefs fans calling out Vernon Davis :-)
But when they are right, uh oh! The predictor must be some kind of wise and all-knowing prophet that will ride that prediction into fame and fortune.
If the Mayans are wrong about the world ending in 2012, then no one will give it a 2nd thought. But if they are right……..
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"That was a good job. It wasn't pretty and we made it tougher than it had to be but that's alright. That's alright this time." - Todd Haley
Win pretty, win ugly, win easy, win tough, it doesn't matter
Of course, people won't be talking about it for long
If they were right, either :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
if they're right no one will be around to give it a second thought ...
MNchiefsfan understands :-)
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I do!
And BTW, I passed 2000 comments today…
I did what was supposed to be 12 hours of schoolwork yesterday, and this is how I use my free time now? Pathetic.
But fun.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Had to rec you on that one UPS
Put yer money in Exxon Mobile. It will double in 5 years.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
ha! thanks, Aiken ...
not BP, eh?
btw, did I mention … wreck’d
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
You know
If I had money, I’d put it in BP right now.
Because their stock has gone to the bottom, but they’re a huge, cutting-edge company that has a history of profits.
You could buy in dirt cheap right now I bet…
OT, isn’t it hysterical that now everyone’s starting to realize that the Gulf spill wasn’t quite the crisis everyone made it out to be? I love watching all these anchors try to explain why they were wrong about the slick stretching to the East Coast and changing the entire ecosystem….
Overreaction; it’s what we do in America! :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
OVERREACT?!? HOW DARE YOU SAY WE OVERREACT!!! WE DO NOT OVERREACT HERE, WE SIMPLY ...
oh wait … never mind
actually, maybe that’s the reason we have so many “We’re #!” type posts … best OLine, Best Running Game, Best This, etc … we oveerract here on AP to anything we can glom on to
oh, next time you see Shaun Smith give him this for me, please?
Winner: 2009 Nostradamus of Arrowhead Pride Award (I'd like to thank my producer, my director, all of my wonderful fans ... )
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I'll make the delivery :)
That overreaction works both ways. 2 games into the season and we had people CERTAIN that JC was hated by Haley and leaving after the season…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
27-24 Chiefs
on a last second field goal by Succop
Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...
Romeo's gotta good track record at making Peyton look somewhat human
2 extra weeks to prepare, get T-Jax back in time hopefully. Either way, this is the measuring stick, being prepared for a team like this, and at all strength. I smell NFL replay game of the week for this 1!
you reminded me of why i hate the colts
you reminded me why we should kick their asses. lets go chiefs!!!!!!!!!!
Player who NEEDS to step up: Matt cassel
Breakout players: Belcher, Gilberry, Moeaki
Early prediction for offensive MVP: Jamaal Charles
Early prediction for defensive MVP: Tamba Hali
by BEEf_CHIEF on Sep 28, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for sharing my animosity Beef Chief
And may the football gods have mercy on the Colts come gameday because the Chiefs won’t!
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I hope you didn't hit him too hard!
If ya gotta hit somebody anyway this is the best reason I can think of.
CHIEFS WIN. CHIEFS WILL. BELIEVE.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
It's okay, the co-worker looks like Brady Quinn
You don’t want to know what readANDgold58 is going to go for next, though…
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
by TRSChief on Sep 28, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And no legs either
But why are you asking about Bob?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
If you take him water skiing he prefers to go by his middle name
Skip
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
by Aiken_Drum on Sep 28, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha!
Rec’d. Some jokes never, ever get old…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Oh, I got him confused with the other guy that
hangs over the water cooler. I think his name is Art.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
What's his phone number?
My softball team is looking for a third base.
Awesome
I’d never heard that one :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
v. good post...
Of course we have a chance to beat the Colts we`re playing well but our players still need to step it up higher if we are to come away with a win – Peyton Manning in his own back yard is a little more treacherous than a Seneca Wallace or a Alex Smith! For a young Chiefs team this game will be a good judge to see how far they have developed and it could be a game that makes or breaks Eric Berry!!
1/ With the bye week it means the staff can prepare more and analyze game film so thats a positive if you ask me.
2/ As well as we are at running the ball we need to up the passing game a little! I was impressed with this aspect(great play calling) against the 49ers but we need to get Chambers involved – I`ve hardly heard his name mentioned in three games!
3/ Keep those tackles coming – I think this has been the seasons biggest improvement because last year we looked woeful but this year we look stellar :)
4/ Contain Austin Collie(especially his slant routes when they fake to Wayne)
5/ After watching the Packers self conbust with penalties against the Bears last night keep doing a great job at keeping those penalties to a minimum.
Can we win? Yes I believe we can although it wont be easy. Sky Tv here in England have chosen the Chiefs v Colts game for their live coverage(at last its the first time in years the Chiefs have been chosen by Sky) and reading through the chat forums something keeps cropping up when people discuss why this game – `because they deserve it` or `its a testament to see how far they`ve come` or `its different` but the one that sticks out to me is by a Packers fan `If it was in KC i would applaud it……..i fear they wont stay within 30 points in the dome`……lets see Mr Packer ….lets see …Hopefully your talking about our old team and not our new found hope one :)
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Sep 28, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions
THanks CFE
Good replys. I will say one thing about your #2. Chris Chambers played his butt off last year for a few games so that he could get resigned this year. I have watched him for several years in SD and I hate to say it, but he has been a kind of lazy player in the past. One of my fears this year was that he would start taking it easy agains after he got paid. I hope he doesn’t but it could be happening. He has all the talent and size on his side but yet he underperformed in SD. Let’s hope he finds some MO and gets it in gear.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Chambers has been MIA.
Short arms- no separation- and no game. Thanks Aiken, had not thought of his play in that context until you brought it up. I have not been able to catch him on the Boob tube putting in blocks either?
I have been disappointed by the play of most, if not all of the WRs at this point
but that may be partly because they haven’t been a huge part of our game plan. They have made some plays when called on but I want to see them doing that on a more regular basis. Chambers just happens to be somebody that I watched a bit more closely than others because of fantasy football. The dude has the skills and the size to be really awesome. He signed a contract (I think for 2 years) and he is getting a bit older so he may be sliding a bit at the moment. His MO is to do that for a few games and then suddenly he wakes up with a hand (to use a poker expression) and blows the doors off for a week or 2. I don’t think that Charlie has had to use our WRs as yet because of Jones and Charles. When we start seeing some fourth quarter scores where we are behind by 7 or more points, I think you will see some more passing. These guys don’t just throw the ball as much as you would think they would given their reps. I have written about Erhardt Perkins before and this is old school EP. They want to smash the other team in the mouth and wear’em down. Then when they ain’t lookin’, BOOM.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
On further review, I gave half of Cassel's INT intended for Bowe ON Bowe.
No way the defender, starting behind you, should be able to interpose himself and the WR on the comeback route. Cassel needed to throw that one short, and Bowe needed to be the first one to it. Just a little lazy out of his break, trailing off toward the sideline, instead of just keeping the defender on his back and coming straight toward the QB.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
The overthrow early to Chambers was on the OL, imo.
Cassel had an unblocked pass rusher with his hand up in his passing window. Ball was behind Chambers and uncatchable. Well-designed pattern, with McCluster sprinting toward the sideline and clearing the nickelback out of the coverage, with Chambers having inside position to catch the short slant for the easy 1st with only a handful of yards to go. But the up-the-middle pass rush ruined it.
Lots of things have to happen right before the QB-to-WR combo get good looks, and THEN you can fine-tune the timing and develop some chemistry.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
Aiken that was a good comment
about the flea-flicker coming out of nowhere! That play was enough to show me and the rest of the NFL that Charlie Weis has some serious heat in that playbook.
I’m excited that McCluster is getting more involved in the offense now, and he really showed some hands on the catches.
I bet we see even more wrinkles in the offense against Indy!
I was mad as $#%@ when we drafted Dexter McCluster and now I'm ordering his jersey......oh the irony! Go Chiefs!
Can you imagine
how fast McCluster is on turf in that dome, I mean he makes guys look bad on grass. He will only be that much faster.
by WRBCherokee on Sep 29, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Good work my man and fellow fan. optimistic, nicely
researched and well thought out. Rec’d. Beware that you may have embarrassed the Chief’s, this city in which they play and some fans about destroying the prima donna QB by pulling his spine out of ? It’s funny and fun to me and I had similar thoughts about horseface when he played. Just part of the culture and thank God we all think different about football, otherwise how boring would it be?
Colts-Dolphins, week 2, 2009
Dolphins: 49 rushes, 239 yards, 4.9 per carry, TOP 45 mins (out of fucking 60)
Colts: 14/23, 303 yards 2TDs,1 redzone appearance (1/1 TD), 11 rushes for 64 yards. TOP 15 minutes.
The Dolphins completely dominated this game physically, on the ground, and at up 75% of the clock. Final Score? Colts 27, Dolphins 23.
And the Dolphins didn’t field three rookies in their secondary.
Just sayin…
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
Nice post
There are no garauntees. I happen to think our Defense is playing much better than the Dolphins defense was playing last year. During that game the dolphins gave up three TDs. An 80 yard pass play to Dallas Clark, a 48 yard pass play to Pierre Garcon and a 15 yard run by Donald Brown. The two pass plays are instructional in that they show that when you give up the big play it is hard to win. Peyton Manning lives and dies by the big play. The Dolphins defense on that day had one sack and outside of those two pass plays gave up 175 yds.
So far this year the Chiefs defense is averaging over 2 sacks per game, just under 1 INT per game and 1 defensive fumble recovery per game. They have given up two big scoring plays in three games, the 59 yd pass to Nanee vs SD and the 65 yd pass to Cribbs vs Cleveland.
Once again, it comes back to being able to consternate Manning and the guys who know how to do that work for the Chiefs. The did not work for the Dolphins last year.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Those two guys, specifically Crennel, that have done it in the past...
….didn’t field three rookies in their secondary. Peyton is NOTORIOUS for picking apart young DBs. Shit’s like practice for him.
Re: Sacks… Our sack totals are misleading in that four of them came from one game vs an OLine that fielded a rookie tackle. As well, Peyton tends to be the least sacked QB every year. He knows how to work the pocket, gets the ball as fast as any, and I’d swear he has an egg timer in his helmet.
Re: Big plays… Eh. I think he more lives by taking what the defense is giving him, and scheming accordingly. HE creates those big plays through sideline study and presnap reads, and puts his wideouts in position to get loose from inexperienced DBs or sit in zones. Big plays aren’t luck for him. Those rookies are going to have their hands full.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
Well as far as whose on the field goes
Peyton didn’t have Gonzales and Garcon last week. And Bob Sanders is hurt again. We have no idea who will get hurt in the up coming Jags game as well, but we do know that we won’t be losing anyone to injury because of game play until the next matchup. Peyton is a great QB, but he is not infallable. He has been beaten once this year by a team that has only beaten him twice out of 17 tries. Our sack totals may be misleading but if you look at our sack totals over the last two years I think you can say that we have improved markedly. Big plays are always a risk. Just as you saw Garcon make the big catch in week one and then hit the ground and fumble. Things like that happen a lot when you go for the gusto. For now, I’ll take 6-0 vs 0-6. If it doesn’t get done, well, we weren’t supposed to win anyway, right?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
He apparently didn't need either of those two
As he still managed 325 yards and 3 TDs of offense on what was the 3rd ranked secondary in 2009 (granted they are without Dumervil). Even still, Wayne and Clark were essentially shut down. And Peyton didn’t lose a stride. What’s worse is I think taking Wayne and Clark out of the game planned right into his hands, as he teed off on rookie Perrish Cox all day in connecting with Collie for 12/171 and two TDs.
Yes, he was beaten once this year by a Texans team who, up to that point, had zilch of a running game on film and Schaub, AJ, Owens, Walters, Jones, Slaton who are top weapons in the pass game. Where did Arian Foster even come from, and who do you think they were scheming to stop?
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
Arian Foster
Came off of the Texans practice squad…this is his 3rd year with them. He took the starting job in the preseason…game 3.
Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...
It was rhetorical...
Arian Foster ain’t exactly a household name, and the Texans running offense hasn’t exactly been one to have to gameplan for, was my point.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
Ok Arrow Spread
You’re right. We should just give up and forget about it. I mean, it’s more than quite obvious listening to you continue to hammer home your points that Peyton Manning is a football machine that could never be beaten no matter the circumstance. Or is it the Chiefs specifically that you don’t give a chance in hell too? I guess I forgot that he has never lost a game in his history in the NFL and he has played in and won a Super Bowl every year he has played. Your point, as I take it, is the Chiefs will lose. My only response to our chances of beating the unbeatable is, That’s why they play the games. OH, and as far as game planning for Arian Foster goes, Goliath didn’t think much about David either.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
My point, as you DIDN'T take it..
Is that we have arguably the best QB to ever play the game going toe to toe with a three-rookie secondary. My subsequent posts reinforce the fact that he is really good, and that he doesn’t need all his weapons to be healthy to dismantle a secondary.
To FURTHER that point, Berry has been responsible for a lot of the points that have been put up on us thus far.
Peyton Manning, rookie safeties…
If you don’t like the points I make, don’t respond to them. But just because YOU didn’t make them, doesn’t make them any less valid. And, please, debate what I say, and not what you spin.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
by ArrowSpread on Sep 28, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair Arrow
You’re “spinning” too, by saying that he doesn’t like the points because he didn’t make them…
I agree that Peyton may have a great day against us. Then again, Berry didn’t bite on fakes in the SF game like he did the first two weeks…
One of the big pluses with him was he’s a smart, fast learner. So maybe he’s harnessed that aggression?
But it won’t matter if Peyton’s in the zone. Because when he is, I believe that IND is unbeatable.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Fair enough.
Consider it stooping. Felt like I was kind of being attacked because I posted something that he felt compelled to go and research, validate, and counterpoint. And because I revealed we still had a chance in spite of those points, I’m being malicious and dishonest? How does one even make that connection?
I mean, I had to do the same research, so I wasn’t exactly sure what was going on. Dude just kind of crapped on my character, JUST because I decided to take a stance that was opposite of the the tone of this post.
The entire diatribe was completely unwarranted, imo.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
by ArrowSpread on Sep 29, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I get that
Thanks for not taking what I said personally.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
And, for the record...
I think we match-up very well with the Colts, and have a really good chance of winning this game in much the same way the Dolphins dominated their meeting last year. All we have to do is not give up the big plays, which is a lot easier said than done when you’re facing a guy that, as you said, has lived and died by the big play for the past how many years.
So, forgive me for playing devil’s advocate. Someone had to play the part of bloodletter in this Koolaid Sea of Red. Figured since Ups has drank himself into a Koolaid stupor, we’d try a lil role reversal.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
I am glad that you enjoyed wasting my time for me--great joke!
When I make posts I usually spend time making sure that I have as much information as possible so that I don’t put bad information out there. When you mentioned the Dolphins game, I did more research to find out exactly why the Dolphins did lose that game. I wanted to be accurate when answereing your post. Now that I understand that you were just being a dick, it does make life easier for me. I won’t take the time to read and or reply to your posts from now on because I will never know if you are seriously trying to make a point or just having a good time. I don’t do this to posters here because I respect the space. Thanks for pointing yourself out. Next time you want to play self appointed devil’s advocate, you shouldn’t let 5 hours elapse before you make that point known.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Taking that one a lil too harsh, there, Aiken
You gave all the reasons in the world why we should win, and I gave you a glaring contrast to those points.
My post was quite valid to this discussion. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t have wasted so much time with the research. I made you think.
Wow, I’m a dick.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
All true
The fact that you see no wrong doing here, further convinces one of an elitist viewpoint. You ‘made’ me think. Therefore you are. I can learn, and I have learned from our exchange. My response was based on the belief that you actually held the view that you put forward. The fact that you have said that you do not hold that view, but because you saw a need to ‘bloodlet’ what you considered unqualified euphoria removes credibility from your posts and indicates a malicious intent to “make” me think (using your phrase). Particularly when you withhold that information instead of making it predicate. It is very hard to tell on a blog, just exactly what people do mean or intend until they make it clear. I thank you for making your intent clear.
I ask no quarter from posters concerning the exchange of ideas, but I do represent myself truthfully and without malice. I do not make posts under guise designed to intentionally mislead for the purpose of ‘making’ a poster do something. Taking advantage of a basic trust in the way that you have corrupts the exchange of ideas in posts and makes one unwilling to continue to include you in further discussions. It is the only way to know for sure that you are not falling victim to the same elitism. You simply cannot undo the breaking of that trust. I have not taken anything harshly, I merely live with the circumstance you created.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Either you're reading way too far into what's going on here, or I have a serious problem. Of the clinical variety.
Anyone else feel that I’m coming off the way that Aiken describes above?
I really do want to know — because this discussion took a serious wrong turn.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
by ArrowSpread on Sep 28, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I even rec'd this post.
What a gyp.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
by ArrowSpread on Sep 28, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
In the future
please refrain from recommending my posts. I want neither association nor advocation from you.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I'll rec them if I think they're good, as I do any other post, Aiken
And if I feel there is something to add to the debate, I’ll certainly post my thoughts. Whether you agree with them or not.
What you WON’T get from me is disrespect in the way of namecalling, taking shots at others, harassing posters (not that you have), or anything that is truly malicious, harmful or spiteful.
I can handle a little role reversal, though. Normally I’m sipping the kool-aid. Today, I decided to let loose my concerns for the Indy game. This seemed to be a well-laid forum to do it in.
And because of that, it got a rec.
Feels like I just gave you the cootie touch, doesn’t it?
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
by ArrowSpread on Sep 28, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Aiken, I'm sure ArrowSpread appreciates your optimism.
You both want the Chiefs to win and believe they can. You’re on the same side.
What ArrowSpread is saying is this game could go either way. He’s not putting all of his eggs in one basket. I feel like we can pull the game off, but we need near flawless execution in order to do it. The only nearly flawless victory we’ve had was against SF….at home.
Manning is a very scary QB. If the Colts were without his services, I would not hesitate to bet on the Chiefs. But with a QB like Manning at the helm, this game is on the fence for me also. It could go either way.
If we don’t happen to come away with the victory, just know there is no shame in losing to a team like the Colts (unless they just make us look plain silly). I appreciate your optimism, and I’m sure ArrowSpread does as well. We’re just a mix of both realist and optimist. What an odd combination.
by SupremeChief on Sep 29, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Supreme Chief
I have no doubt that AS is a Chiefs fan. I also am not naive enough to believe that we walk away with an easy victory here. I feel ya.
I am more enthusiastic about the Chiefs chances since the current regime took office that I have ever been. I believe in what they are doing because I have seen similar management styles work. In fact I have seen them achieve far beyond what anyone would have expected. In some respects, I believe that the Chiefs have improved beyond what most fans expected for this season already. What a great time to be a Chiefs fan!
If AS had explained his point of view when making his initial comment, I would have understood it and most likely not have spent much time commenting on it. Instead he decided to as he states, play “devils advocate”. Normally one will inform the poster when this position is taken so as to avoid misunderstandings that would otherwise arise from comments that are going to be made that are in direct conflct with the original post. For reasons that are not clear, he decided that he wanted to inflict his will on what he perceived to be a “Koolaid Sea of Red”. His stated purpose: “Someone had to play the part of bloodletter in this Koolaid Sea of Red” was accomplished by taking a direct counter point (with accurate information to be sure) to drive a stake into the heart of my optimism. Since he later states that he believes the Chiefs …“have a really good chance of winning this game in much the same way the Dolphins dominated their meeting last year.” He indicates that he does in fact agree with the premise of my post. That would seem to mean that his earlier postings were only used as a tool to accomplish his bloodletting. Then he wants to ask forgivness for playing the devils advocate after the fact. His falsely representing himself for self serving reasons at the expense of my trust, simply because he could, is what I find objectionable.
Any one of us could do exactly what AS did. The important thing to note is that not everyone does. In fact most posters do not do this. Once you know that someone will misrepresent themselves in this way, you can choose to continue to let them try and make a dupe of you or not. I choose not. Why waste the time?
I appreciate your attempt to clarify but it does not change the actual account.
I hold no animosity towards AS. He can and I am sure will continue to experience AP as he sees fit. I will do the same.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
My point of view is that we have a chance, but i’m not ready to bet against Peyton, given what happened in the scenario that I presented. Forgive me if my optimism is guarded considering those events in the game I referenced.
I guess I just don’t understand why it’s necessary to be forthcoming with both sides of that argument from jump. I don’t want to sit here and debate all the reasons we can win. You’ve laid that out in spades. I presented the angle I wanted to debate — one that hadn’t been brought up, and you counterpointed, and I counterpointed, and so-on. Whether I’m optimistic of our chances or not, would these points still not be debated? Would you not still research those claims which may poke some holes in your post?
And, I didn’t falsly represent myself, imo. My concerns were expressed, and they smacked in the face of the points that you made. Seemed reasonable to tag the label of devil’s advocate to it, as that’s clearly what my intial comment lived up to. It was a light-hearted way to illustrate what transpired. No more, no less.
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
Great Post
Best medicine I could ask for! Anyone who is really honest will see that of any team, we are the ones perfectly situated to beat them and beat them hard.
Chiefs running game > Colts run D
Chiefs passing game = Colts passing D
Chiefs run D > Colts running Game
Chiefs passing D = Colts passing game
Chiefs special teams > Colts special teams
Clear cut victory. The key will be turnovers.
Remind everyone again how Chiefs passing D = Colts passing game?
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
yeah that's a little presumptuous
Chiefs passing D < Colts passing game.
We’ll need to get pressure, plenty of it. Not necessarily sacks but pressure, sacks would be nice but you can’t assume you’ll get anymore than one when you face Peyton Manning. If that.
2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting
I think our D is easily up to par with the Colts passing attack
The Colt’s O line will struggle with the push from Dorsey, Edwards and TJax, then they will have to put extra blockers in to account for Tamba. The coverage that Berry, Flowers, and Arenas can provide will result in at least two turnovers. I do have concern about the middle of the field and understand that Manning is extremely accurate, so I will accept him having a good day, as long as it isn’t a great, record setting day.
I think the LBs will maintain good pressure. I do know that the coaching staff has been outstanding on establishing the game plan to defeat the opposing game plan. We will see, but I’m confident that our secondary will rise to the occasion and the pressure will be there.
Nice Work
Just wanted to say some nice work there Aik. I just wish it was next week already so we can actually watch the Chiefs win! (Although I may have to listen via internet due to living in CO now…stupid area programming lol) Agreed on the fact that the coaching staff is the key here. They’ve brought in the right personnel and coached em up. I like our odds against the Colts. GO CHIEFS!
Somebody, somehere...
Rec this before it gets bumped. It deserves to stick around.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
+1
Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...
+1
Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...
I'm glad to see this
Because I HATE!!!!! the Colts! I can’t think of another team that has totally dominated us in recent history, especially when it counts, like the Dolts have.
I'm with you on this one, Aiken...
However, I do have a couple ?
How hostile will Indy be? I’m not really sure.
The other is how will our young defense react to the “circus” that is Peyton Manning. He barks and waves his arms and does whatever else he can for his dog and pony show to throw people off.
Our special teams will come up big in the field position battle. I hope they stack the box for the run, we’ll seal them to the inside and Jamaal will get the edge all day long. Establish a methodical run game and Peyton plays from behind and rarely sees the ball. I really like the Chiefs chances in this game.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Sep 28, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions
Yeppers
As far as the dog and pony show goes. Crennel has seen that a time or two and he will have them ready. Brodie will get to impersonate Peyton next week in practice. It is gonna be a great game! Thanks for the recs guys. The posts are flying off the list soooo fast right now.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Gotta remember Lilja
that signing keeps playing off for us
2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting
Chiefs will beat Indy, because of running game.
Peyton Manning can’t beat you if he isn’t on the field. The Chiefs holding the top spot running the ball only helps the Chiefs chances. I also still believe that a lot of teams don’t think much of the Chiefs right now, even at 3-0. I will take it though, only helps us more.
This still won’t be an easy task, as anyone knows Manning can tear you up on the pass and we still don’t have a superb pass rush, so Crennel’s work is cut out for him on the defensive gameplan. Special teams has been a big asset to the Chiefs, and as long as the Chiefs keep their current ST play up, that only helps our chances more.
If the Chiefs win this game, the NFL and the media will give KC the respect it deserves, as well as some wishy-washy fans(I"ve always been a KC fan, even through the last few years).
Exactly. It's a simple gameplan which needs to be almost flawlessly executed.
To add to that, we NEED to score every time we get in the redzone. I’d tolerate a mix of FGs and TDs, but a bunch of FGs against this Colts team may not help us much.
by SupremeChief on Sep 29, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
The Chiefs have a great shot at a win. Indy doesn't have the weapons on defense to shut down Jones and Charles
It ought to be a close game either way though. Nobody reads defenses better than Peyton Manning. It’ll be nearly impossible for the Chiefs to shut him down all game long.
Shawn Camp earned my dog several beatings back in 2007
by wtbudlight on Aug 30, 2010 5:54 PM PDT
Aiken ! I'm with you and have thought that ever since I visited training camp.
“Bad things man” for our opponents, that is!
LOL “Sack-Master” for Smith is awesome!
I think the Colts game is when JC explodes and that was the method to Haley’s madness for not playing him more. And, like you, I would like very much to see Peyton’s nose out of his ear-hole!
Fantastic picture!
Thanks Dan. This is really a fun season to look forward to. Even if the Chiefs lose a game, they will be in it. You can’t ask for more than that!
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
You've said everything I've been thinking for the last two days.
This game is very winnable. The Chiefs could do this and shock the nation. The Texans game will probable be tougher than this one. Great write up. The passion shows. And you provided real examples of all of the possibilities that will help us win.
Dear Haters, F@&Y% U!!! Love always, THE CHIEFS!
I scoopin' what your poopin' there AikenDrum
But didn’t you disagree with my fanpost, "Exactly Why the Chiefs Will Beat the Indianapolis Colts…?
Not me.
I didn’t post at all on your post. The two of them were so similar, I didn’t have anything to add!
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I'm getting tired of saying.."great post...rec'd".
But nonetheless….credit where due….so “great post…rec’d”.
And as for our homey being 3-0 with his picks…I hate to rain on the parade….but every single kool-aid guzzling AP’er, is also 3-0, myself included.
And since I’d like to preserve my perfect record for the season, it’s time to think with my head and not my heart for the first time.
Peyton Manning can thread a needle at 40 yards, and I think they’ll game plan for our blitzing front 7 by keeping 2-3 guys on 5-10 yard routes in order to give Peyton a nice menu of escape options, and enabling him to avoid sacks and pressures with the options to get rid of the ball quicker. By telegraphing a long ball and dumping underneath after splitting the field with their eligibles, the Colts will have a lot of big plays after the catch, with the short passing game, and the Chiefs will suffer loss #1.
TheK-Man, 4-0….Aiken Drum and the rest of AP 3-1.
There’s not a person on AP, who wouldn’t consider a little common sense right now, as an act of Chiefs treason.
I’m just keeping it realistic here.
It’s Peyton Manning.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
And I would love nothing more, than to have to face the firing squad.
But…..like I said…it’s Peyton Manning.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
And I picked the Saints to win all 16 games....so I should wind up with a winning record
predicting those games….probably 12 to 4 or 13 to 3. Amazing huh?
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
ewwwwww, a challange!
Thanks to the K man. Did you like the stanley videos? I loved that stuff when it was on TV.
Concerning Peyton Manning. There is a reason that Romeo Crennel defeated PM six out of six times while in NE. I am trying to discern his tactic but as yet I have not found the cache of information that I need to do it. When I do I will make it a post.
In the mean time, sharpen up your darts and start throwing them at your PM picture. It wil help with the MOJO. Peyton is one hell of a QB but he is not the only brain that ever did any figgering on the football field. Chess is the name of the game that will beat him because Peyton plays Checkers real well. It’s when you have to think a few moves down the road that he begins to fade into second place. I truly believe that if any coach can field a defense that will take Peyton to task ON HIS BEST DAY, it’s Romeo Crennel. It’s one of those timeless battles that is about to be rejoined. This is going to be maybe the most exciting game of the year.
Thanks K
It’s Romeo Crennel.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Do you really think Romeo is smarter than Peyton Manning?
Peyton Manning is a very smart guy, and I’d bet on a great mind on the field at the QB position, vs. a great mind off the field any day.
Besides, the appropriate comparison, would be Peyton vs. Matt, not Peyton vs. Romeo.
Ever heard of Larry Coyer? I didn’t think so.
How about Clyde Christensen. Ring any bells? I doubt it.
It may surprise you to learn that they’re opposing apples to the Chiefs’ Crennel and Weiss.t
Lets let it roll of the tongue a couple of times. Coyer and Christensen vs. Crennel and Weiss, Coyer vs. Crennel, Christnesen vs. Weiss…
hmmmm. I’ll give you the coaching edge argument.
But it’s the QB’s in this league that dicates the W’s and L’s, and the coordinator’s job, to just not screw it up, and give them the best opportunity to do so.
I’m not ready to put Matt Cassel up on a Peyton Manning pedestal…..yet.
I’m not going to be happy watching Peyton pick apart our defense and dial down the Chiefs fan rhetoric with a dose of PM reality.
But TheK-Man doesn’t always get what he wants.
If I did, it would have been a lot less of a depressing drive home, from The Longest Day.
It would be so nice, if I could just be wrong….please God…let me be wrong….just this once?
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
And if Romeo ever defeats Peyton Manning 6 times while he's a Chiefs coach...
I will formally concede, and offer to kiss your butt in Macy’s display window.
Tom Brady is the one who defeated Manning six times….Romeo just help the defense keep the games close enough for Tom to do it.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Now if Peyton Manning was our QB....maybe. lol.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Woops...forgot to Rec'd ya. "click".
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
But Peyton Manning had a ton of trouble
against Romeo’s Cleveland defenses, only scoring 13 and 10 points the two times they played.
You know that Romeo will not be here long enough to win six times
so the offer of the Macy’s window smooch is a straw man. Turkey!
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
He won't be here long enough to win ...ONE time. Sorry.
"But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." ~Vince Lombardi~
IF I RECALL RIGHT
In that playoff game when Ty Law was on IR, N.E. was out of cornerbacks and used a wide reciever as either the corner or as the nickel corner, didn’t they.
Finest DEFENSIVE GAME PLANNING and Coaching job in the history of the NFL. I was amazed at how Romeo pulled that one off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who else would you use? No other position has enough cover speed to
do the job. Using the only logical choice on the field to sub-in doesn’t make it the finest coaching job in NFL history.
If that was the case…I could pick out a ton of games that would label him the worst coach in NFL history.
I’m a big fan of Coach Crennel, but a simple substitution from years ago has nothing to do with the upcoming Colts game.
If Romeo can keep Peyton from dumping the ball off on short passing routes when pressured, and can prevent the big gainer after those plays, I’ll be the first to blow the proverbial Romeo horn.
I just don’t see how we can prevent Peyton, from threading those needles against our Defense. Hell, no one can. All you can do is limit the number of times it happens and contain them for as few yards as possible after the catch, and hope it translates to enough 3 and outs, to afford us some scoring opportunities.
If there’s ever a game we need our Defense to score big, it’s now. My real judgment of Crennel comes with the defensive scores, and forcing turnovers. If we can do that again this week, he’s forever the man.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
I don't think he's saying it was the substitution that made it a fine coaching job
I think it’s the fact that despite having substandard players out there (which is how it is when you have to go THAT deep on your depth chart), their D still shut down the Colts.
I think that’s what he meant.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by Mark in Ga. Yep. I think they did it with their front 5, in the main. Troy Brown was no stud corner.
But a few ducks fell to him, just by being a warm body who luckily poked the ball free after a big completion.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
Love the post Aiken!!!
However watching the 04 playoff recap was bitter sweet.
WE’RE GONNA BEAT THE HELL OUTTA COLTS…COLTS…COLTS…COLTS COLTS COLTS!!!
Go Chiefs, I believe!
Nice post
I agree that the Chiefs now have the personnel (Coaches & Players) to beat the Colts. I’ll be at the game with a couple of good buddies (who happen to be Indy fans) to (finally) see my first live Chiefs game. TJ up the middle, JC off tackle, Hali in your face – I’m so pumped I’m already having trouble sleeping. We ARE going to beat the Colts.
I watched the Indy game last week and didn’t see anythng other than blue & white in the stands. I know it’s not Oakland – but if I dare wear my Jersey to the game will I be risking personal injury ??
Great post!
Like what you have to say man. The only way to beat the Colts on their turf is to keep the ball away from Manning. I think he’s lickin’ his chops to get after our young secondary, and I don’t believe Peyton overlooks any game. I hope our special teams and D can come on strong. We’ll need every part to contribute big for a win there. But MAN would that be a hell of a win!!!
" That was a cajun run! Flew Bayou!" - Dexter McCluster
How are we supposed to keep the ball away from Peyton?
Last time I checked…most teams have to punt the ball on 4th down and kick it to them after each score.
Only way to beat the guy is to send Shaun Smith in there to squeeze his nuts off.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Peyton DOES get shut down at times.
I agree with what you’re saying in principal, but it’s not like he’s never ever had a bad game…
I’m not saying we’ll be the team to do it, but there’s a reason that the Saints won the SB. It’s because Manning threw one TD and one pick and didn’t deliver down the stretch.
So it CAN be done. It just takes a nearly perfect game by the defense…
Here’s hoping!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Hope? I'm full of it.
And realism too. Peyton has to have a terrible game..(for Peyton) while Matt has to duplicate his week 3 heroism. What are the odds?
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
I don't want Peyton to have a terrible game
I want him to go about his business just like he would on any given Sunday. The any given Sundays that he played against a Romeo Crennel defense that is!
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
For the record
Peyton has been in the league since 1998. He has faced defenses from teams that Romeo was coaching for on 12 seperate occaisions.
1998-1999 Romeo was Defensive line coach fot the Jets. He was not in charge of the defense at this time like he would be in NE. Peyton played them four times in those 2 years. Romeo’s record was 1-3 against Peyton. The Defense held the Colts to and average of 14.75 points per game during this time. His average margin of loss was 3.7 pts. In the win, the Jets beat the Colts 44-6.
2001-2004 Romeo was Defensive Cordinator for the Pats. He was large and in charge of the Defense. This is what he now does for the Chiefs. In those six meetings, Romeo’s D prevailed each and every time. Average margin of victory was 14.3 points. The defense held Peyton and the colts to an average of 17.8 points per game. That included two playoff games.
2005 and 2008 Romeo was HC of the Browns at this time. He played against Peyton and the Colts twice in his four seasons as Browns HC. The Browns lost both meetings versus the Colts and PM because they were unable to score points. In those two games the combined score was Colts 23-Browns 12. They held Peyton to 12.5 points per game, but could only score 6 per game themselves.
In the combined 12 meetings between Romeo D’s and Peyton’s offense the D has held Peyton to an average of 15.75 points per game, holding the Colts to 17 or fewer points in 9 of those meetings. That’s pretty good for a guy who reportedly can thread the needle at 40 yards. Romeo’s W-L record against Peyton’s offense is 7-5. This was because of a lack of offensive scoring more often than the defense giving up too many points. When he wins he wins by an average of just over 14 points. When he loses, he loses by an average of 4.4 points per game.
If this game goes true to form, both teams should have a chance to win. The Chiefs offense is key here. If the Chiefs can score 18 or more points they have a 75% chance of winning based on these numbers. I would estimate that the Colts will score somewhere between 17 and 24 points and the Chiefs somewhere between 14 and 38. Let’s call it Colts 17, Chiefs 31.
Get ready Chiefs fans, we are about to give the Colts some Black to go with the Blue (and white).
CHIEFS WIN. CHIEFS WILL. BELIEVE.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
by Aiken_Drum on Sep 30, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow. Rec'd for the research and the hope!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Thanks MN. Romeo's ability to slow down PM is real.
He has done it more than once, on more than one team. It will be very exciting to watch and see if the Chiefs are the next generation.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Actually TexasChief surrendered the position
Fits Aiken Drum:)
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, at times like this, there's only one thing left to say...or should I say....sing.....
“Aiken and Romeo sitting in a tree, k-i- s-s-i-n-g, first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes a baby in a baby carriage.”.
Ok..I got nuthing.
Except, none of that means JACK SQUAT!
Unless we win.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
The reason it doesn't mean much Akes...is
because I could go through and “cherry pick” 10 or 15 games where Romeo’s D got slaughtered. Argument made.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Not by Peyton Mannings offense you can't
There are only a couple where they gave up big points. The majority of the time he was able to confusticate the crap out of Peyton. Look’em up.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
It's illogical to think that he could get blown away by worse teams
but somehow when it’s Peyton Manning, he’s a charmed coach. Illogical.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Not really at all, Kman.
Sometimes you just perform better against certain styles. The type of offense that IND / Peyton runs is one that Romeo is particularly effective against. Others, maybe not with quite the consistency.
A straight 6-0 run for Romeo as DC vs Peyton is worth noting and looking into. One could easily argue that it suggests that Romeo has a very high understanding of the type of offense that IND runs, and how to most effectively counter it. There can be worse teams than IND that run different types of offense that Romeo may not have as deep of a grasp on, so can end up giving up more points. It’s not a terribly hard concept to follow.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
If we win the game because of the D, it holds water...
if we lose because of Peyton Manning, it doesn’t hold water….
I hope we win. But my gut says, it’s time for a dose of reality.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Guess it doesn't hold water after all huh.
"But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour -- his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear -- is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." ~Vince Lombardi~
So you still think it means JACK SQUAT????
I guess Romeo just had an off day huh.
Like I said, that was then and this is now….
None of that former stuff meant Jack.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
~~ Last words of Humphrey Bogart, actor, died January 14, 1957
And for the record
Peyton’s pick in the SB was the nail in the coffin that finished IND off. He’s human, not a machine.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
to be fair to Manning
Reggie blew that route and it was a fantastic jump by Porter.
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Actually, he's more machine than human. Take another peek.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
You cut him! You HURT HIM!
He’s not a machine, he’s a man!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
a man who plays like a machine...yes.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
I was just doing a little Rocky 4 for you there...
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Last time I checked
the Colts have one of the leagues WORST D’s. If Peyton is the “Jesus of football,” why do the Colts already have a loss, even tho statistically, he’s having the best year of his career so far? Probably because he’s only one man and the Texans ran the ball down the Colt’ throat’s.
Meaning, running the ball + taking time off the clock = keeping the ball AWAY from Manning! Wow I’m good at math!
Does it guarantee us a win? Of course not! Manning is no slouch! But he IS just one man, on one side of the ball. Won’t say we will win. But the mismatches we present them are, I believe, in our favor. And that gives us the opportunity for a win. Which, to me, is a faint glimmer for hope next Sunday.
Enjoy that fairweather
" That was a cajun run! Flew Bayou!" - Dexter McCluster
We have to bring Peyton to the ground at least once in the 1st quarter
And knock him on his tail right after the throw a few more times.
That is the only way I’ve seen him play substandard. He doesn’t handle getting hit as well as Brady or Rodgers or even Favre.
Hit him early and often, and we’ve got a shot.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Bringing him to the ground once in the first quarter won't cut it.
There needs to be a bounty.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
What I mean, is, one sack at least
And knocking him down multiple times.
Expecting more than one sack against him is… excessive.
He has a history of playing poorly when he’s getting hit a lot.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Sean Smith is on the Job :)
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Shaun Smithe is on the Job :)
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
General Genetalia is on the Job :)
and Done
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Attack ruthlessly and destroy him.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Is that the same thing as pulling his spine through his face mask?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
no...machines don't have spines....
we have to pull his wiring and circuitry out through his speakers.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
I'm glad to see someone else is as hungry for this game.
I’ve spent the past 4 seasons in Indy, among the Peyton fans (with a Colts fan sprinkled in here and there) and I’m ready to give them a beating. I can personally say that a lot of the fans here are overlooking this game. They simply don’t care about us, assume it will be an easy win, and are overall just disinterested. I hope that this attitude carries over somewhat to the Colts organization. That would be a huge help for us. I’m still looking into the possibility of last minute tickets, so I may be at the game, with a big sign saying CHIEFS WILL, with www.arrowheadpride.com printed underneath it.
by amazingtaters on Sep 30, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You're right about the Peyton fans
I hate those people with a passion. If you’re going to root for a team, then root for the TEAM. Through good times and bad. A lot of these Colts fans will disappear after PM retires, and honestly I’ll be glad to see them go. Fairweather blowhards.
Oh, yeah, and GO BUTLER!!!!!!! Glad to see that being in Indy brought you to like our professional basketball team ;)
"Voldemort himself created his own worst enemy, just as tyrants everywhere do! Have you any idea how much tyrants fear the people they oppress?"
-A.P.W.B.D.
Exiled, and enjoying my stay at Battle Red Blog :)
rec
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Sir, I'm gonna need you to put down the koolaid and step away from the keyboard...
We’re talking about Peyton Manning here. The most intelligent, persistent, hard working and talented QB in the history of the NFL. He could put his kid out there and catch 10 balls. I will say that their lack of a run game makes them 1 dimensional. Problem is, it’s still Peyton Manning in that dimension!
If this game were at home, we’d only be a TD behind. In their house it’s more like 2 TD’s.
Give me Cody AND McClain please.
by MahiMike on Sep 30, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
diddo. rec'd.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Craziness
You’re completely insane but I agree. However when the Chiefs win this game then we must ask when will they lose?
I hear ya joe.
I honestly thought that the Texans game would be harder, but with Andre Johnson out and Kubiak absolutely apoplectic about his teams performance since the first week, I am no longer sure of that. If the Chiefs can beat Indy, you have a very good point. Could the Chiefs sweep the AFC West? Could they go into the playoffs at 16-0? Even this Koolaid drinker chokes on saying that. You are right though. If they win their next 2, what is to stop their march?
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
NEVER
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The way that the fickle football gods are
We’d be both IND and HOU on the road.
Then manage to lose to BUF or something silly like that.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
That's exactly what would happen
There’s a reason teams don’t go 16-0.
And even IF we were ever to be in that position, Haley would sit his starters in a 16th game.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
16-0? lol. Pleas allow me to adopt my finest English accent when I say.....
“you’re quite mad you know”.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
I think this is where the ride comes to an end for you guys... Colts are too damn good.
(A look back…. Broncos 6-0… then… flopped) I think it’s mainly the schemes that have been working for you guys but later, teams will totally catch up and know your tendencies. Just like the “genious” Josh McDaniels was looking. Your lack of depth will also be exposed as the season grinds on, I believe you guys should be pissed that the bye week came so damn soon, you would’ve needed it later on.
The RaiderLaker
Well, I have no idea what in the world
the donkeys starting 6-0 and then falling apart has to do with our 3-0 start and since you didn’t mention anything specific I would have to guess that you don’t either. Just grabbin’ air and blowin’ smoke. As far as catching up to our schemes and knowing our tendencies, I suppose that alot of teams did just that to Romeo and Charlie between 2001 and 2005. The funny part is, it didn’t make any difference! Those two still won 3 super bowls.
Our lack of depth has already been exposed. We have no healthy T backups and only 2 QBs and oh yeah, only 4 DEs to rotate. The interesting thing about that is that Romeo beat Peyton without Richard Seymour and Ty Law and Tyrone Poole in the 2004 AFC championship game.
We needed the bye week right now. Maybe O’cal will return healthy when Tyson Jackson does. If you want to try and talk shit about the Chiefs right now, you really ought to do a little research and at least support what you have to say. It would help keep you from getting fried by somebody that knows what is going on.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Wasn't that game played outdoors in terrible weather?
Eh, 7-9... To be revisited during the Bye week.
You know he's a Raider fan right?
Just ignore him.
Better yet, you hold him down and I’ll piss on him.
"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Your team is NOT or even close to what NE had at that time.
It’s truly laughable that you bring up Romeo’s winning against Peyton but yet fail to take in account key players injured in those games for the Colts, yet when you mention the wins by Peyton over Romeo you try to downgrade them by measurement of points.
Everyone can appreciate your excitement at being 3-0 but sugarcoating the past to your liking does not change the fact that you still have to beat a very very good Colts team.
So I guess
what you are saying is that in six straight attempts from ‘01 through the beginning of ’05, there were just too many injuries, the weather sucked, Peyton didn’t feel well….WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Great littany of excuses. So I would further guess that what you are saying is that in the 5 times out of 12 attempts that Peyton was able to best a team that Romeo was working for (not as DC but as DLC or HC), the mighty Colts were at full strength with the God of the Gridiron at the helm and the best they could do was win by just under 4 points per game? That doesn’t sound very convincing.
You want to talk about key injured players? Bob Sanders is out. Garcon and Collie are hurting as well. Rookies in the secondary. O line problems. I think you had best take stock of what Indy is putting on the field NOW instead of trying to support a losing arguement from nearly 10 years ago. Good luck next week. I think you might need it more than you realize.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Good points about rookies in the secondary
So worried about mine, I forgot about theirs. Definitely some matchups there Weis will certainly take advantage of. Hopefully Cassel can deliver.
What has me kind of really excited, though, is seeing McCluster and Arenas on turf. Indy’s special teams is middle-to-bottom of the league, so I expect to see some speed and big gains on special teams.
As well, this could be kind of a break-out game for McCluster on the receiving front. Speed kills, baby!
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And with all that Indy has going against them as far as injuries that you point out, what will be your disclaimer when Indy wins.
BTW you were/are the one bringing up games of 10 years ago to aid your view of why your team wins.
by Ufanforreal on Oct 2, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
best they could do was win by just under 4 points per game? That doesn’t sound very convincing.
It only takes being ahead by one at the end of the game to win and the last 12 years I think their record of wins in the reg season speaks for itself.
The point the OP is making is IND vs defenses when Romeo is the D Coordinator
Not as Head Coach or D Line coach – but the actual play calling / designing D Coordinator.
Peyton / IND have traditionally had a hard time vs Romeo Crennel led defenses. Does Romeo just have Peyton’s number? Has he just been fortunate / lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time 6 times in a row? That’s all up for debate I guess.
But at least consider looking at the original statement for what it is, and debate specifically the points he’s making. The record of regular season wins is impressive. But there’s a very identifiable trend that Aiken_drum pointed out that’s worth noting.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
To cut the back and forth, we shall see come next week, and if and when Indy wins the trend you speak of will more or less will go down with you.
So the revelation being reveled here is..
You have to play the games to determine who wins?
Might just be crazy enough to work!
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
And...
If and when the Chiefs win, the trend that I speak of will remain in Romeo’s pocket to be a consistent reminder that Peyton is great but not invincible.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I think the point that should be made here
is that Peyton didn’t lose to Crennel Defenses he lost to 2 HOF and a few others in the conversation. You guys don’t have the Mike Vrabels (in their prime), Rodney Harrisons and Teddy Bruschis to run out there that the great Patriots defenses did. As a Colts fan I feel pretty confident in saying that the players made the coach, not the other way around.
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Hpw about the
23 points total he put up against CLE in 2 games while Crennel coached them?
And isn’t it odd that while you had Dungy, you didn’t choke in the SB? But without him, you did?
I’m not saying things’ll happen one way or the other, but it’s foolish to imply that a coach can’t make a big difference.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
We don't know
We don’t want it too :)
And the Broncos flopped not once, not twice, but three times the lady ( that started 3-0 and missed the playoffs)
The Broncos have their own stat line on playoff failure in recent years.
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 30, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Congrats though on being 3-0 that's awesome, but I never came here talk serious sh.it Aiken...
Just gave my opinion about other similar situations…
The RaiderLaker
Cool. No offense taken then.
Glad that wasn’t the case.
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Just not entirely sure that it's a similar situation.
Not saying that we won’t lose (very possibly the next two very very tough games). But KC and DEN are way different situations.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Man, I remember that game. Brings back some great memories.
And if it’s a close game, we’ve got to prepare ourselves for another game with TJ doubling JC’s carries.. Thomas just doesn’t fumble the ball. Gotta say that he looked DAMN good during the 9ers game though. I just hope it’s a close game….
God typed "iddqd" before creating Jason Heyward.
Pass the Scotch
I’m down with 4-0… Hand me the bottle of Scotch and let’s start this party!!!
Someone's spiked my kool-aid.
I think we can win too. The best way was laid out week one by the Texans. Run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. Charles with 140 yds rushing, Jones with 110 yds rushing Run DMC with 65 for good measure. At least if we can control the clock running the ball, Peyton is sitting. But then again that’s what everyone’s preparing for, so Weis will probably make Cassel look like a passing guru and throw for 300 instead. Wow! This kool-aid is some potent stuff. I better go get some water. GO CHIEFS!!!!
300+ rushing yards huh?
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Foster almost got that himself...
Why couldn’t the number 1 rushing attack in the NFL (Chiefs) do it?
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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Because Indy wasn't preparing for a Houston rushing attack
Because there hasn’t been one.
They will certainly prepare for a Chiefs rushing attack.
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and our run D fits well with especially Jamaal Charles type of running
Chris Johnson tends to struggle against the Colts.
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Guess its a good thing that TJones gets used more, then
And Indy is still susceptible to the draw, where JC makes his money.
Go ahead. Pin those ears back, Freeney and Mathis.
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Were they planning on JAC running?
Because they didn’t do a bang-up job of stopping them…
Look, you’re run defense isn’t nearly as good as SF’s. There’s no disputing that. And we hung over 200 yards on them.
We get it, you have a very good team there in IND. But don’t act like your weakness isn’t a weakness, and our strength isn’t a strength.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
The keys to this game as I see them....
Manning is only stopped by two things: Pressure and Keeping him off the field. The latter is easier to do than the former by loooong, slow drives pounding the ball. We have 4 running backs (JC, Jones, DMC, and Battle.) Platoon them, Indy’s D is so bad by the time we rotate Battle in there in the 3rd Q they’ll be gassed.
If we score quick, we hurt ourselves. GOTTA keep Manning off the field as long as humanly possible. He will torch Carr so bad we’ll be forced to take a timeout and send the trainers onto the field after Carr with Fire extinguishers. Even the 49ers were completing passes on him on their last drive.
Our wildcard—Lilja. Who knows the weaknesses in Manning and the O line better than a guy who was THERE for 6 seasons. That’s gotta be worth one sack at least. Pressure on Manning will force him to the short routes. Get him throwing 2-3 yard dump offs, that’s almost like playing the run.
Special Teams will be critical also. It’s more important we give Indy the long field than it is we get the short field. Again, it’s back to burning the clock. I believe our run game can grind it out and Indy can’t stop us. If we’re dumb enough to get into a shooting match with Manning, we’ll lose just like we did last time—last one who gets the ball, scores and gets the lead…
…just sayin…
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Love the post rwalke10
The part I like about it the best? Last year we wouldn’t even have been talkin’.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Was Carr on the field the last drive?
We had the 2nd team D in there
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
I don't think he was
and imo Carr has been playing pretty solid thus far. Nothing great but not getting torched like last year.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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Colts are still very telneted, but they may be losing their grep.
If KC can weave a WWW of deception, they’ll turn the Colts into Unix, singing tuberculosic soprano.
Sorry. That tuberculosic soprano thing was a real reach.
As opposed to the past, KC’s sporting a front 5 that’s bigger than any KC front 4 Manning’s faced. On the back end, KC is more athletic and football-smart than previous KC secondaries Manning’s faced, but I think the key is the front 5. Too bad Chiefs couldn’t bring Sheffield to this party. But I like the guys they’re bringin’, and ‘10 might’ve been a little early for Sheffield, anyway.
Indy’s likely to dare KC to throw at ’em, early, hoping to stuff the first few drives with an attacking run D frenzy that can also feast on Cassel in the pocket. KC will need some early completions, or the Colts will turn the run D frenzy into a pass D frenzy, sitting on a fat lead.
In NE, Crennel didn’t beat Indy with great coverage. It was all about being bigger up front than the Colts, and the underappreciated fact that Manning can be run down by linemen. His passing can be disrupted by linemen pushing the pocket and getting their hands up.
Team speed is no longer in Indy’s favor. KC’s also as well- or better-conditioned than Indy.
Freeney’s another year older, and coming off a late ’09 injury. He might be close to the wall.
Chiefs will blitz off the edge and send a safety to close on the uncovered WR. Kendrick Lewis JUST missed the stuff on Crabtree in the ‘9ers game. This will be better-executed most times, and it says something that Crennel’s willing to dial it up and trust Lewis to get it right. I like that Crennel’s setting it up by having Carr play the inside leverage, and risking the sideline go-route. It’s a big risk, but it’s the way you want Brandon C to play the position. Still not really getting his head turned around, but he’s sticking like glue and NOT blundering into the receiver (or there’d’ve been an INT flag on the incompleted go route to Crabtree).
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I've got to agree with almost all of that
Except the point on Freeney. He looked pretty nasty last weekend. He was everywhere, and very mobile. He can and likely will be a very big problem for us if he plays like he did last weekend.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Has Albert allowed a Sack this year?
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
Nope
No penalties either :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I just keep flashing back to Freeney's ankle injury against the Jets last year.
Nothing scientific. I just think he’s due to hit the wall. My gut tells me he won’t finish the season. Prob’ly not smart to insert that kind of thinking with the fast start Freeney’s had. Just bein’ a homer.
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Very, very well said mills
All of which is fuel for my Chiefs win fire. I see Dorsey and TJax and maybe even Ron Edwards (who had a sack vs. the 49ers—God I never thought I would see it!) pushing into the backfield all game long. If they can control that line, they can take away Peyton’s effectiveness late in the game. Even more so with this bye week of rest to get ready. After thinking about it some more, the Chiefs just might come up with a 44-6 drubbing like the Jets did way back there in ‘98 when Romeo was the defensive line coach. If Manning can’t get the ball out, the Colts won’t score. That fact does not change how bad the colts D is and Cassel should have a field day with them.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
I just feel like they're reloading this year.
It’s a tribute to Manning that they made it to the SB last year. But I feel like it’s sort of the way the Steelers stole their way to the top, only to be very mediocre the following year.
Plus I just get the sense from watching the Colts this year that they’re just not as sound as they usually are. Throw in a bunch of injuries, and I expect ‘em to continue struggling. But they’ve proven much more in the last decade than KC has, so they deserve to be favored. But watching KC and Indy play this year, KC seems to be on the ascendant and Indy seems to be on the down-tick.
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Manning has been
and continues to be a great QB. He cannot play linebacker or defensive line though. I don’t care how effective an offense is, if your defense can’t stop the competition you have a hard time winning. This was the problem for Vermeil’s Chiefs. They did their share of winning but they lost some that they should have won had their D been better. Our D right now is about as good as it’s been for the last 4-5 years. THat is encouraging going forward no matter what happens in this game. I just want to get the Peyton Monkey off our damn backs.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
To be honest...
2005 AFC Divisional comparisons are a little off-base. First: New England played Indianapolis in a freezing, off-and-on snowstorm. Indy’s receivers were getting mugged every time Manning threw the ball to them (which is no longer legal thanks to Bill BLEEPING Polian’s endless interference in the rule book), but it was a defensive battle for the entire first half, with the Pats going in with a 6-3 lead.
The Patriots pasted the Colts with their dominant running game, earning a massive advantage in time of possession and exhausting Indy’s defense. Brady scored on a QB sneak, David Givens caught a TD, and Indianapolis never even dreamed of touching the scoreboard.
Now, there’s been a ton of turnaround on the Colts. But the same formula remains; beat up Dallas Clark and make the Colts run the ball. Peyton Manning could get over 300 yards, but he’s going to complete a pass to the defense at some point. How the Chiefs offense responds to that is key to winning the game.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 2, 2010 12:28 AM CDT reply actions
Both teams have experienced a lot of turnover. That's why the comparisons are interesting.
But the fact is that Crennel had that NE defense dialed-in, despite missing guys on the back end. The formula was inspired play in the trenches.
Personally, I think that Indy’s showing some cracks this year. Yes, Peyton’s still a great field captain and a superb passer. But it’s not like he has Marvin Harrison, anymore, or that the Chiefs are as slow, anymore. Chiefs are more athletic, relative to Indy, in a lot of key positions that were perennial sore spots. Just not enough DBs with speed, IQ, team concept, and ball skills.
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Indy's insistence on playing such young corners has to be worrisome for Colts fans.
Jacob Lacey and Jerraud Powers definitely could be abused by Bowe, Chambers, and Moeaki. Bob Sanders once again is hurt, but throwing at Kelvin Hayden (their Super Bowl hero) might be like throwing a rock at a hornet’s nest. Eventually you hit it, and you feel good, but then you get stung eventually. And it HURTS.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 2, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
To keep Manning off the field, I think the Chiefs will need to convert two or three 1st downs with the pass in the first quarter.
They CAN wear down the Colts with the run IF they can get enough runs. And the Colts CAN stop the run if they know they can gang up on it. Say what you will about Arian Foster, Houston has a very convincing passing game, and honoring it is probably what helped Foster get rolling. Once he got rolling, the Indy D clearly wore down. But ya gotta wear ’em down, and to do that ya gotta stay on the field, and to stay on the field, Chambers, Bowe and Moeaki have to get involved in the passing game sooner rather than later. Use ’em as blockers and decoys the whole rest of the game.
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Agreed.
Their run d is suspect, and I expect Weis will take it to the Colts on the ground. The Chiefs have the right backs to do it with (Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles).
If anything, I expect the Chiefs will win this one inside the tackles offensively, and try and flush Manning out of the pocket defensively. Peyton’s got 0 foot speed, and keeping him out of his comfort zone (right behind Saturday) is going to be key. So I’d expect to see inside blitzes, and a lot of them.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 2, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I think having McCluster in the mix might be very big for KC.
KC has enough speed on offense, now, that Indy almost has to run nickel and if they run nickel, I think they’ll be in trouble in the trenches. But Cassel still has to HIT McCluster and Charles when/if they’re matched up with a LB.
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I think you've got it backwards
Jerraud Powers (future pro-bowler if not current) and Jacob Lacey will eventually get you. Kelvin Hayden isn’t good. Not the guy he was a few years ago. That is certain.
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^this
is painfully true.
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by peytonsthebest on Oct 5, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The comparison is a lot off base
The main ingredient is Romeo. Whether he beat Peyton by blitzing, coverage or stopping the run, he did beat him. If you go back and look at those victories, he used the entire defense in different ways during different games. Romeo will adjust that defense to what he needs to get done. We have not seen this ability in a defensive Coordinator in quite some time. Now anybody can pick apart the comparison of our D to the Pats D and Our O to the Pats O. The truth is that their are similarities as well as differences. The main similarity is the coaching that has been successful in the past. Couple that with the raw speed and talent that KC now puts on the field and it makes for a whole lot more of a chance to win the game. This will not be a blow out.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
No...
But I’d like the Chiefs to win in a blowout.
Cassel can’t afford more than 1 INT, and Manning can’t either. I’ve seen nothing from the Colts rushing D that indicates they’re in the Top 10 in that department (giving up 200 yards in the opener was really bad), the Chiefs have the tools to run the ball very well, and Manning can’t throw when his defense is on the field. The Chiefs have to take the game inside the tackles and time of possession.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 2, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I think KC has to take what's given.
If they follow the old formula of trying to just run the ball, Indy might be able to snuff that out. I really think Cassel’s going to have to move the chains through the air a few times. INTs are certainly bad, but I wouldn’t hesitate to throw a lot if that’s what Indy’s daring KC to do. That’d mean not pulling your horns in if you DO throw a pick.
But just going by the games I’ve watched, I think this KC running game is very likely to take over in the 2nd half.
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Well I guess YOU were way off huh.
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We can win if we do the following
*Turn over the ball no more than once
*Get one special teams return for 40 plus yards
*Keep Manning at/under 3 TD’s and 300 yards
*If Cassel can make good decisions i.e. 3rd quarter of SD, 2nd Half of Cleveland, and whole SF Game
*If our total offense scores as many touchdowns from regular field position as Peyton manning
Or if we do none of that, but score more points than they do.
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- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
I'm definitely a fan of that strategy.
It tends to win pretty consistently.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
You forgot another asset for the Chiefs
Don’t you think Ryan Lilja might know a thing or two about defending Payton Manning? Isn’t he a coach during the bye week? I hope he is being utilized to try and stop Manning. I’m pretty sure our coaching staff has thought of that too. Great post by the way. (and sorry if somebody covered this in the comments, there are so many, I couldn’t read them all)
I like the Coaching angle in its entirety
Jim Caldwell Head Coach
Clyde Christenson OC
http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=20
Larry Coyer DC
http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=36
Ray Rychleski ST
Head to Head I would take the Chiefs staff
He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.
Peyton Manning
is more of an OC then the OC they have haha
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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Don't let'em get to you Akes. Keep on chuggin the Kool-Aid!
You’re fighting the good fight, for all us realists who don’t have the guts to bet with our hearts
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- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
(I've been secretly praying, that you're right)
but then, I have this mental vision, the game starts, and the Chiefs look nothing like the team that played in games 1, 2, and 3, and the Colts are up 14 zip, in the first quarter….and depression sets in. And right now, I’m trying desparately to push this vision from hell out of my mind……and it doesn’t want to leave. Usually when I have one of these…….they’re true.
Please football gods, say it ain’t so.
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Hopefully, it's just a satanic dream.
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Thanks for the moral support K
I know what you mean about your visions. I had a few of’em over the past few years. Something changed a little over a year ago though and even if we don’t pull this one off the long term looks too bright to worry too much. Romeo and Charlie are my biggest reasons for positivity here. If we were just slogging along and had won 3 with another duo, I wouldn’t be this emphatic about our chances. Romeo can hold back the waters and Charlie can find the key. Can Cassel and the boys git’r done? Cassel watched another guy do it (albeit with out Charlie and Romeo) in NE with a pretty good cast around him. Now he gets to go backwards and gain the support that made Brady famous. Just too many starts aligning here for there not to be some cosmic upheaval. Put on your tap shoes K, its almost time to dance.
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It's just too damn long to wait until Oct. 10th. Sigh.
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If the Chiefs beat the Colts, I will go and buy tap shoes....
just to punish myself.
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- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.
Looks like I won't be buying tap shoes...or kissing anyone's ass
in Macy’s window.
Why? Because I know when to put down the freaking Kool-Aid.
"I should never have switched from Scotch to Martinis."
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Well...the Colts have a problem with defense...
They have given up 93 yards rushing in the 1st quarter to Jacksonville…..
Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...
we will beat those chief killers
i was only 13 when we had homefield throughout the playoffs and lynn eliot choked thats when i started calling them the chief killers after they kept killing our super bowl dreams but now it is different i live in tennessee so all i hear about is how good peyton manning is and i know he is but still i get sick of it especially when everybody talks about how the chiefs suck well no more after we beat the colts we will have to get respect right? Everybody will say it was a fluke and we got lucky well us chief fans know better if they dont want to give us the respect WE WILL TAKE IT! GO CHIEFS!!!!!!
Noooo! You said the name of that...kicker....
Welcome to AP, Derek.
If you’re in the Nashville area and looking for other Chiefs fans to watch games with on Sundays let me know. A buddy of mine is from KC and he lives down here, so there’s usually two of us at the local BWW (pretty much the only Chiefs fans in the house on any given Sunday).
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
i am in johnsoncity
too bad tho i would love to watch a game with somebody cheering for them other than me and trying to fiight off all tiatns colts and redskin fans
It's all about the front 5 and playing bigger than Indy in the trenches.
That’s the common theme in Crennel’s victories. A lot depends on whether we see the same TysonJackson that we saw in the early going against San Diego. He needs to play that well or better and stay healthy. I think the Chiefs believe they can rotate Smith in at DE earlier, and they will.
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