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Kansas City Chiefs Front Seven Evaluation: NFL Week Two

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It's Wednesday night, and it's time for the Front Seven KPM!  Last week's numbers were great, and it was easy to shower praise on the front seven.  However, this week's numbers weren't as great, and I had to come down on some players who didn't show well.  It may have been the short week, but there was a lot of sloppy play on the defensive side of the ball this week and a lot of rotational players seeing more time on the field.  Alright, let's get down to business!

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  • 64.9% of the time, the Chiefs were in a standard 3-4.
  • 31.6% of the time, the Chiefs were in a nickel formation.
  • 3.5% of the time, the Chiefs were in a goal line formation.
  • 15.8% of the time, the defense blitzed a linebacker or safety.
  • 3rd down on the Browns first series, Magee and Gilberry are the down linemen in the nickel. Tamba absolutely bowls over Joe Thomas on his pass rush. Looked really strong on that play.

  • A great sniff out of a running back screen by DJ in their third series. Tamba rolled out and forced the throw to float over him and DJ lined up the back for a tackle for no gain.

     

  • Nice stat they showed in the middle of their third series: 7 plays for 5 yards and a turnover. Fantastic start.

     

  • 3rd and Long in the third series, Williams, Magee, and Tamba as down linemen, DJ and Vrabel as linebackers. After the play, DJ drops into coverage and Vrabel delays, then rushes the passer. When the running back comes into the flat, Vrabel doesn't see him and DJ's too far in coverage. Easy checkdown and a first down. I'm sure that was the called coverage/rush, but it wasn't a good call.

     

  • Four series in, Smith already has let three Free Men through with only one double team. Not good at all.

     

  • Seeing lots of Magee in the nickel. Trying to keep Dorsey from getting worn out after a long game the week before? Started the fifth series at right defensive end.

     

  • Toribio started the fifth series at nose tackle. In the first play, he let a free man through and got shoved off the line. Bad start. He was immediately replaced by Shaun Smith who threw his man out of the way and made a great play on the next down.

     

  • Lots of defensive substitutions on the fifth series. Several snaps from Toribio, Magee, Gilberry, and Studebaker in the 3-4.

     

  • Goalline formation had Mays, DJ, Studebaker, Vrabel, Dorsey, Gilberry, Edwards, Belcher, Tamba, Berry and Smith.

     

  • On Cleveland's first touchdown, Gilberry gets pancaked, creating the hole. DJ overcommits and jumps the line, missing a tackle in the process and leaving one less linebacker in the hole. Both received negative points for their involvement. Side note: Berry was trying to contain the edge but allowed the running back to get outside of him for a path to the endzone. He overcommitted just a little bit too much.

     

  • Nice switch on Flowers' pick six between him and Vrabel. The running back came out into the flat and Vrabel passed him off to Flowers, who picked it off and took it the distance.

     

  • Great pickup of two pulling blockers by both Edwards and Smith on a running play in the 2nd quarter. They were doing a great job of stringing the play along, and when the pulling blockers hit the line, those two did a great job.

     

  • Not only was there a run fake on the Browns' second touchdown, it really looked like a screen pass was setting up. Pretty much everyone on our defense bit on one of the two, so Berry wasn't the only one to bite badly.

     

  • Berry is everywhere in the run game. This kid looks like Bob Sanders at times in run support...the healthy Bob Sanders.

     

  • After a rocky start out of Belcher, he's hitting gaps left and right before halftime. He and DJ are everywhere all of the sudden.

     

  • On back to back plays in the 3rd quarter, a free man was let through to the second level. Both times, DJ shed the blocker and made a tackle for little or no gain. Great job from a guy who typically struggles in that area of the game.

     

  • Good pressure into the backfield on a 3rd and medium pass play, but Wallace gets it out to the running back. DJ lines up Hillis, but whiffs on a tackle and allows Hillis to get the first down.

     

 

The KPM's:

Glenn Dorsey 
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Glenn Dorsey didn't have the stellar week that he had last week, but still was okay.  He was double teamed once, penetrated into the backfield and recovered a fumble, and recorded a quarterback pressure.  He also let two free men through the line and was pancaked once.  He saw quite a bit of time on the sidelines in the first half, and was not on the field in the nickel this week.  I assume this was because he played a lot of snaps earlier in the week and was worn out.  He really started to show it towards the end of the game, having trouble anchoring the line of scrimmage and generally being less disruptive.  Let's hope he's ready to go full on next week.

Overall KPM:  3 Points

Snaps:  38

KPM/Snap:  0.080


Ron Edwards
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After a KPM MVP performance last week, Ron dipped a bit...but was still pretty solid.  He was double teamed eight times, but let three free men through and was pancaked once.  He was definitely the better of the nose tackles this week, but was being rotated often.  He still got solid push up the center of the defense, but had a couple more mental mistakes and less double teams than last week.  This performance still blew the doors off of my expectations at the beginning of the year.

Overall KPM:  8 Points 

Snaps:  27

KPM/Snap:  0.300


Wallace Gilberry 
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Wallace saw a lot more snaps in the absence of Tyson Jackson this week.  He was double teamed once, got a quarterback pressure and a sack.  However, he was pancaked, creating the hole on the Browns' touchdown run.  He was in on every nickel snap and played some defensive end, but the most surprising was his inclusion on the goal line defense.  He's not particularly stout against the run, so I think that rather than placing one of the new backups in that spot, the coaching staff decided on using Gilberry, which resulted in him being pancaked.  He too seemed a little less active than last week, although his sack was fantastic.

Overall KPM: 3 Points 

Snaps:  24

KPM/Snap:  0.130


Shaun Smith 
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Shaun Smith saw a ton of work this week.  Shaun filled one gap, was double teamed six times, penetrated into the backfield twice, and recorded a tackle for no gain.  On the flipside, he let four free men through, was pancaked once, and was shoved off the line once.  As the starting left defensive end, he didn't start well, but gradually got better as the game went along.  In his nose tackle snaps, he didn't look very good, and the coaching staff seemed to favor Toribio as Ron Edwards' replacement later in the game.  He was still solid against the run and (after the bad start) is showing a consistent performance thus far.  His play as a backup makes me feel comfortable about the front three's ability to stay healthy, rested, and performing at a high level...he'll be rotating in a lot.

Overall KPM: 8 Points

Snaps:  40

KPM/Snap:  0.200

 

Alex Magee

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Magee was fairly solid this week as a down lineman in the nickel.  Magee was double teamed once, had two quarterback pressures, one forcing him out of the pocket.  He showed good explosiveness off the line and caught my eye several times with the way he walked his blocker back into the pocket.  He did well to get his hands up on passing plays, something that I typically don't see the Chiefs linemen doing well.  He's still not the answer against the run, but looked really quick and pretty disruptive in the nickel.  If he keeps this up, the staff might have to use him more like Gilberry, as a hard to handle speed rusher.

Overall KPM:  7 Points

Snaps:  17

KPM/Snap:  0.410

 

Anthony Toribio

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Toribio was not good in his first action as a Chief.  He filled one gap and was double teamed twice.  Negatively, he was pancaked once, let one free man through, and was shoved off the line twice.  He struggled to command a double team, and got shoved off the line too easily.  Still, the coaching staff played him deep into the game to try to help him find his groove.  Sadly, he really never did...especially compared to how the other nose tackles have looked in front of him.

Overall KPM:  -3 Points

Snaps:  12

KPM/Snap:  -0.250


Mike Vrabel

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Vrabel started out really strong with 3 gaps filled, one quarterback pressure that forced him out of the pocket, and one tackled for loss that resulted in the forced fumble.  He did have a penalty that gave the opposition a first down on their first touchdown drive.  After that, Vrabel disappeared for large sections of the game.  It's too bad, because he really came out firing on all cylinders.

Overall KPM:  9 Points

Snaps:  53

KPM/Snap:  0.17

 

Tamba Hali

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Tamba was largely invisible all night.  He recorded one gap filled and turned two running backs toward the tackler.  He did allow one completed pass that went for huge yardage and a first down, though.  Finally, the refs saw what we've all been seeing and called two holding penalties against Tamba's blocker.  Tamba really didn't effect the game like he has recently, which might be a testament to Joe Thomas being an incredible left tackle rather than Tamba's abilities.

Overall KPM:  4 Points

Snaps:  56

KPM/Snap:  0.070

 

Demorrio Williams

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Demorrio again only saw a handful of snaps in the nickel as a down lineman.  He didn't do anything to record a positive or negative KPM point.

Overall KPM:  0 Points

Snaps:  3

KPM/Snap:  0.000

 

Derrick Johnson

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Stop the presses!  We've got some consistency out of DJ!!!  He filled seven gaps, forced a dropped pass, forced a checkdown, recorded a quarterback pressure, and made a whopping four tackles for no gain.  The part of the game that hurt DJ was a completed pass for a first down and three missed tackles, one that was on the Browns first touchdown.  For the second week in a row, he was everywhere in the run game and this week he played very, very good pass coverage.  He got to the gap much before Belcher did, which shows in his tackles for no gain, and did a great job covering screens.  Unfortunately, those screens were where two of his missed tackles occurred, and both would've resulted in tackles for loss.  Still, the guy is putting himself in great positions and is playing great ball.

Overall KPM:  6 Points

Snaps:  57

KPM/Snap:  0.110

 

Jovan Belcher

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Jovan was incredibly tentative this week.  He did fill three gaps and a tackle for no gain, but he also allowed a pass and was late to the gap three times.  This is the second week in a row that he has gotten "lost in the wash" more often than we need.  If DJ wasn't playing lights out, this defense would really be missing Jovan's presence.  If he steps up and starts playing strong, this run defense is only going to get stronger.

Overall KPM:   -1 Point

Snaps:  38

KPM/Snap:  -0.030

 

Corey Mays

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After not seeing any time on defense last week, Mays got a couple snaps on the goal line defense.  On the first play, he stepped into the gap and made a stop.  He wasn't involved in the other play he was in.

Overall KPM:  1 Point

Snaps:  2

KPM/Snap:  0.500

 

Andy Studebaker

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Studebaker saw a few snaps for Vrabel this week.  However, he didn't do anything to record a KPM point.  He did have a couple of good coverages, one on the long Watson pass, but he was covering the running back.

Overall KPM:  0 Points

Snaps:  7

KPM/Snap:  0.000

 

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KPM Rankings:

Defensive Line:

 

1.  Ron Edwards                    8

2.  Shaun Smith                     8

3.  Alex Magee                      7

4.  Glenn Dorsey                    3

5.  Wallace Gilberry                3

6.   Anthony Toribio                        -3

 

Linebackers:

 

1.  Mike Vrabel                      9

2.  Derrick Johnson                6

3.  Tamba Hali                       4

4.  Corey Mays                      1

5.  Andy Studebaker               0

6.   Demorrio Williams                   0

7.   Jovan Belcher                           -1

 

KPM/Snap Rankings:

Defensive Line:

 

1.  Alex Magee                      .410

2.  Ron Edwards                    .300

3.  Shaun Smith                    .200

4.  Wallace Gilberry               .130

5.  Glenn Dorsey                   .080

6.   Anthony Toribio                       -.250

 

Linebackers:

 

1.  Corey Mays                      .500

2.  Mike Vrabel                      .170

3.  Derrick Johnson                .110

4.  Tamba Hali                       .070

5.  Demorrio Williams             .000

6.   Andy Studebaker                      .000

7.   Jovan Belcher                          -.030


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And now, time for Kalo's MVP of the Week!  This week, it's DERRICK JOHNSON!

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After coming in a close second in the MVP race last week, DJ stepped up and played really well again this week.  Yes, he had a few bad plays that hurt his KPM, but I can't argue with all the big plays he stepped up and made time and time again against the Browns.  Crennel has definitely gotten the best out of DJ this year.  It's not just a good play every once in awhile, he's flying all over the field and making a big play on what seems like every series.  The most important part I took from this game was his ability to shed offensive linemen in the gap and make a nice tackle.  That has been a big problem for most of his career, but he didn't have any trouble this week against a pretty darn good offensive line.  He's put on a clinic so far and is one of the major reasons this defense has people so excited about it.

 

Well, that'll do it for this week!  Thanks for taking the time out to read and comment!

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What is with those numbers being all out of whack?

I don’t see that at all in the editor, but they’re all over the place in the post.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

good

I thought that was my eyes

Bewsaf@comcast.net

by Bewsaf on Sep 22, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What a sweeeeeeeeeet post. Rec'd.

There’s no chance this isn’t going to bump someone out of Recommended. :)

"He was a great patriot, a humanitarian, a loyal friend - provided, of course, that he really is dead." ~ Voltaire~ (French Philosopher and Writer. 1694-1778)

by TheK-man on Sep 22, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

And right on about DJ.

"He was a great patriot, a humanitarian, a loyal friend - provided, of course, that he really is dead." ~ Voltaire~ (French Philosopher and Writer. 1694-1778)

by TheK-man on Sep 22, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just sneaking this in here for all to see.....

I was shocked to see that FoxSports has the Chiefs at the number 10 spot in their week 3 Power Rankings. There are only 8 undefeated teams left at 2-0, but realistically, who would rank us higher than 10th? Personally, I still think we should be somewhere in the mid-20’s, but it’s a blast to see the Chiefs ranked as high as 10th. That’s been a while. Of course, if we lose this week, and join the many teams who will be 2-1, we’ll immediately slide back down to around 26th. On the other hand, should we pull off a victory to become one of only 4 or so undefeated clubs at 3-0, it would be interesting to see our Chiefs mentioned in the same breath, with teams like the Saints, Colts and Packers. Could we rise as high as # 6 next week? Power Rankers are fickle, especially early in the season, and I don’t place much stock in them….but they’re a fun read, and I love to see the Chiefs on the rise within them.

Take a peak.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

As an added bonus, the Falcons are ranked 2 notches down at the 12th spot.

That ought to be chapping Gonzo’s butt.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

And then there's this:

Alex Marvez of FoxSports takes all the 2-0 teams in the NFL, and divides them the into two categories, The Real & The Fake.

Guess which category the Chiefs fell under.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/which-2-0-NFL-teams-are-real-or-just-fake-092110

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would be even better if he signs and retires a Chief after we win a Super Bowl.

Then he would have just left, while we won a Super Bowl, then came back and retired. That would be pretty funny. How do you think he’d feel if that happened?

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 24, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't play by those rules anymore, K-man.

Directly to the front page means it doesn’t go into the FanPost rotation.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yea...too bad. It'll be gone way to soon now then.

"He was a great patriot, a humanitarian, a loyal friend - provided, of course, that he really is dead." ~ Voltaire~ (French Philosopher and Writer. 1694-1778)

by TheK-man on Sep 22, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Bookmarking"

"He was a great patriot, a humanitarian, a loyal friend - provided, of course, that he really is dead." ~ Voltaire~ (French Philosopher and Writer. 1694-1778)

by TheK-man on Sep 22, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mean that you can't rec the hard work :)

Great stuff Kalo.

So we have our NT’s and once T-Jax comes back.
What to do with Toribio?
I guess we could after the Indy game put him on the PS, or not?

He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

And what about D.Williams.

3 snaps? Why is he not getting snaps after a pre-season of mostly him with the ones?

Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
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by CPT.Caveman on Sep 22, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inter-office politics among the coaching staff I would guess.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I keep waiting for them to sub him in for Belcher at the SILB.. Havn't seen it happen

yet though.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing is clear though...as long as DJ is a man posessed

DW will sit, unless they get him in at another position.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think his stock slid a bit when he lined up at ROLB against linemen who were NOT scrubs.

He’ll probably get a few starts this season, but I think the focus is on STOUT to start ’10,

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe...and Belcher has been looking ok out there.

But I still think that the Chiefs are overlooking the fact that DW can play the strongside better than Belcher.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 24, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kalo and Bewsaf are 'special" now ...

… Joel had to commission a custom extra-short bus just to bring them aboard as contributors

DJ, wow …. looking damn good there, and to think after the 3rd preseason game nearly everyone was thinking it would be (and calling for) Williams (and Mays) to start … looks like the guy’s turned the corner

oh yeah … wreck’d Kalo, thanks to you (and Little Brother Bewsaf) for ALL the hard work you guys do on the O and D posts … AP is fortunate to have guys the caliber and quality of you two (and others too numerous to mention)

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by upamtn on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I could have sworn I told you this would happen. :) (DJ)

Let’s see, let me count the times.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

You mean...nearly everyone except me...right?

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Insert Einstein Reference Below:

signed, Ups

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 23, 2010 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I look forward to this post weekly for one reason

It’s a great reminder that Mays barely gets on the field. For that, I think you.

Other than that…ahte the post…hate you.

by KC_Satchmo on Sep 22, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Uhhh...constructive criticism?

Thanks, I guess.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bewsaf@comcast.net

by Bewsaf on Sep 22, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geez.

You don’t post bail ONE TIME….

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

so that explains the pasty Face :)

He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will you accept beer gloves?

Or should I just save the cash for the next time I get a call from the slammer?

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

One pair, or just one glove.

‘Cause if it’s only one glove, you’ve gotta tell me which hand. You don’t want the text on the outside, you know.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for your work-complete change of topic, though

PFT has a quote from the agency representing Vincent Jackson talking about AJ Smith, “They don’t call him the lord of no rings for nothing.”

LMAO

by MarylandChief on Sep 22, 2010 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

That's kinda funny.

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by Justin Bopp on Sep 22, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I look forward to this every week

the only position I watch is the QB cos that’s the position I played. But this post shows that beyond the stats we are making marked improvement in the front seven.

THANK YOU.

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 22, 2010 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

who else thinks Browns #78 looks... disproportionate

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Sep 22, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me

and thanks Kalo for not hiliting Smiths Junk Grab

He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe those are child bearing hips.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Sep 22, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmfao!

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 22, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

on that point

Kalo I thought I saw on Gilberries (nice huh) sack that Magee was the other slice of bread to the Wallace sandwich. Was that right?

He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greened

...And as the roar of 80,000 red-clad great plains warriors fills the hallowed halls of Arrowhead, it will strike fear into the hearts of lesser men. For on that field, individual men toil for something greater than individual honors. They toil as brothers-in-arms, as 53 spirits striving towards a single purpose and driven by a single goal: The glory that comes with vanquishing your foes. They will achieve their birthright, they will be champions.

by Sudden on Sep 22, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

DJ is playing like a crazy man out there!

He really wants a new contract as a Chief;) Rec’d as always.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Sep 22, 2010 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Good stuff Kalo

Your notes are really good. I know I said that last week…but they just seem to be getting better.

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by Bewsaf on Sep 22, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Vrabel
He did have a penalty that gave the opposition a first down on their first touchdown drive. After that, Vrabel disappeared for large sections of the game. It’s too bad, because he really came out firing on all cylinders.

Makes one wonder if he backed off after that little bump in coverage. Or if he’s just old and can’t go on all cylinders for an entire game. Or if plays just didn’t happen to flow his direction and his “disappearance” was just coincidence.
Very instructive once again, Kalo! Thanks for the effort and great notes!

by sunny D on Sep 22, 2010 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Another possibility for Vrabel not being as active later in the game

Is that the D line was getting tired (or just didn’t play as well when they started substituting lineman like Toribio) and O linemen were able to get through to the second level more often.

by sunny D on Sep 22, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

We must remember the Rook was trying to outwit the Mack-Truck

and Hali was facing Joe OMG Thomas.
Kalo? did Hali also move over and Rush on the RT and How many times.
I know he got a holding call on both the LT and the RT

He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

great post as always.

Very good job my friend. Normally when we are on D I try to read the guards on the opposing teams and call out the play as it develops, therefor miss a lot of what our front 7 is doing. I am even worse when I attend the game live because once i read pass i immediately pickup the WRs and miss any sacks or the LB play underneath. (Yes I was a DB in HS and College.)

by wren42 on Sep 22, 2010 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

hell of read good job thank you

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by sexassassin on Sep 22, 2010 6:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

another great post. recd

I had hopes that toribio had played better. The front 7 has a challenge this week with gore. This will be a huge test to see exactly where our defense is at.

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by BJ Kissel on Sep 22, 2010 6:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Nice Job

It is neat to read it in a linear fashion like that because it helps understand what it is like for the players.

by JaySoy on Sep 22, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting to see McGee's analysis there....

Maybe all the McGee bashing inspired him. It will be interesting to see if he if he can continue to carve out a niche for himself on this team. I was sure he would be cut during the last round, but there he is. Shocking.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 22, 2010 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Even before folks were giving him a pass, he was a disruptive force against the pass.

Maybe not the guy who finishes, but a guy who gets penetration and opens things up for somebody else.

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"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 22, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He definitely did this game.

He consistently caused problems.

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by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I remember right, he did last season too

I couldn’t believe people were calling for him to get cut. Seems to me that a nickel front of Magee, Smith, and Gilberry would cause some serious havoc on passing plays.

by Chiefs4Life on Sep 23, 2010 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Magee was shut out statistically last Sunday.

But you and I know that he was instrumental in some very good defensive stops. The guy who gets buried by 3 blockers is taking 3 blockers out of the play, and all some of us notice is who makes the play and that that Magee clown was pushed out of the play.

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"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed no such thing...prior to his last game.

But it’s possible, I didn’t notice him for tunnel visioning other players during the game.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 24, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really look forward to this post every week.

Primarily because you do it so well and I have a predilection to this type of analysis. I read it closely and perhaps too closely.

I think you mentioned Dorsey twice in the goalline package. I only noticed because I counted a 5-5-1 an had never really seen that before.

By the way, is your listed email address the one you check regularly?

I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.

by soybon on Sep 22, 2010 7:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I do have Dorsey listed twice! Hah!

Belcher should be in there as well. Lemme fix.

And yes, I check email regularly. Make sure you put something about Arrowhead Pride in the subject line though…I get a lot of crap.

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by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shaun Smith

deserves 2 more KPM points just for grabbing Mack’s junk and pissing him off enough to commit a penalty. lol.

by KCChiefsfan75 on Sep 22, 2010 7:24 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

2 balls & a hand shake Chiefs Style

Cracks me up how you can grab junk with a cup the size of Indonesia.

Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010

by ChiefsChance on Sep 22, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kalo?

How much did we miss Jackson vs Cleveland?

How much was the Defense disrupted by Jackson on the sidelines. I know that Cleveland has a great LT and Center and we won and all, But would the team have had an easier time with Jackson or not

He will lead us from the Wilderness and then fade away when we are in the Promised Land.

by Steve_Chiefs on Sep 22, 2010 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

That side of the line collapsed more than it did with Tyson in against SD.

And Vrabel cheated a bit more inside as the game went along. Certainly Belcher didn’t have an easy path into the backfield in front of him.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd again this week. Thanks for all your hard work on this. I especially like the commentary

as you go thru the breakdown. It’s almost like we’re sitting there while you tally things up!

"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis

by rwalke10 on Sep 22, 2010 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Rec'd and excellent again

YOu and Bews are amazing. Thanks for filling in the gaps for us all!

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by Aiken_Drum on Sep 22, 2010 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

You're the man, rec'd

Man if Magee can become an asset we’re in really good shape.

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by KCporkchop on Sep 22, 2010 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

off point to this thread but.....

I was over at Niners Nation an it just made me appreciate Arrowhead Pride so much. No one was rude or anything on the Niners site(was actually really nice people) but man the lack of people on there an the lack of information. just makes me appreciate what it is to be a Chiefs fan an have such passionate fans like Joel an Chris. This site rules.

ok im done.

Would ya like a free NANAA!

by Jazzy Megalodon on Sep 22, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

very true

Notice how some of the SB blogs have fanposts up for 8 days or more?

by sunny D on Sep 23, 2010 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure I agree with your metrics, KP.

My assessment (ad hoc) was quite a bit better than yours, generally. Likely it’s your “free man” stuff. To my eye, it’s more important that the d-lineman keeps himself in play and in position, and I didn’t see a single series where I felt the d-linemen weren’t holding their own against the run. When they were pushed off the spot by 2-on-1’s (and a few 3-on-2’s), the LBs and DBs were put in 2-on-1s and 3-on-2’s of their OWN to finish, and they usually did.

I’d like to see more pressure from the front 3, but they really weren’t giving Seneca Wallace anywhere to run, when they passed on 1st/2nd.

I think Alex Smith would run all over the conservative pass rush KC sent against Seneca Wallace on Sunday. I grade Shaun Smith, Ron Edwards and Glenn Dorsey higher than you did for Sunday’s game, but that doesn’t mean I believe that the same tactics are going to work against SFO.

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"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 22, 2010 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

In the metric, a double team that results in a shove off the line or a pancake comes out even points.

D-linemen don’t lose points for that one. The free-man portion of it again comes out in the wash if they step in, fill the gap, and make the play. If it’s a tackle for no gain, they even come out +1. The negative “free men” portion of the KPM comes when a defensive lineman lets one go and it creates a gap that the now-blocked linebacker would’ve been able to fill. I’m seeing a lot of times when the free man gets through that our linemen are able to make a tackle with a gain of 2-3 yards still. That’s perfectly okay in the metric to do.

Shaun, Ron, and Dorsey all three played well. Shaun and Ron held their own fairly well at DE and NT, respectively. Dorsey is sometimes hurt by the way they use him in the scheme, asking him to do more with 1-on-1s than double teams, and most of his points come from penetration, QB pressures, and tackles for loss or no gain. He didn’t get behind the line as much this time around, but still had his week-to-week “negative” plays.

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by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You both elevate the conversation - Kalo, hmills

It’s nice to see some observations in this thread that are different from Kalo’s. I say that with all due respect to the time, effort, writing and insight that you bring, Kalo. It just seems like you’re a strong enough guy, and that you welcome other views. The ensuing discussion brings an even deeper understanding. So thanks to hmills and others who share something they saw in a little different light. And thanks again for such a thorough base analysis of what’s happening in the trenches, Kalo! (and bewsaf) I certainly can’t get all that from just watching the game in real time.

by sunny D on Sep 23, 2010 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely, sunny.

I encourage opposing views and criticisms, as well as further in-depth discussion on the topic!

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 23, 2010 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

It takes two sides who are more about the ideas than about winnin’ a pissin’ contest. That’s one of the great things about AP. People can disagree without being disagreeable. It’s an art practiced by very few people on this planet, and 2/3 of those people are on this blog.

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"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean me? lol.

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel." ~George Appel~
- last words before being executed by electric chair in 1928.

by TheK-man on Sep 24, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear what you're saying, but my (vague) impression is there's something essential being missed, here.

On first take, the guy is pushed off the line, or lets an OL by. He doesn’t make the play. But somehow, his HEAD is in the play, and that “free-man” was free because the d-lineman saw that it didn’t matter on that play. We measure them by how they’re matching up, in many respects, when, if their head is really in the game, they’re also picking their battles more selectively.

The proof is in the pudding, and KC is giving up virtually ZILCH on the ground. As I watch, I see a very solid team concept on display. The only thing I’m not seeing that I want to see is a little more pressure off that 3-man rush, and a little LESS of that 3-man rush. To me, against a good QB, the 3-man rush is an invitation to scramble and buy time. It only works if you’ve discombobulated the protections and the QB with pressure off the blitz and threat of continued blitz.

Right now, teams have a good reason to believe KC’s sending only 3 or 4 guys ‘most all day, and I think the next level for this D is to show a little less respect and get inside people’s heads with more pressure than I’ve seen to date. This is one of the reasons I’m really bummed about the loss of Sheffield. Vrabel’s playing with more leverage (imo) in the pass rush than I saw last year, but I still want to see an honest-to-God 260-pounder wearing #55 puttin’ some fear in offenses. If Hali’s our Freeney, then we’re still short one Sean Mathis. We’re still short one Terrell Suggs.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

In T-Jax's rookie year, I saw a lot more of him trying to beat his man.

if their head is really in the game, they’re also picking their battles more selectively.

T-Jax would still be fighting that RT, even after the play went the other way or went past him. Now, he’s all about the PLAY and what the D is trying to accomplish. And his current backup, Shaun Smith is TOTALLY in the game, imo. I’d like to see him get up the field more quickly, but not at the expense of honoring his gaps, or making himself totally irrelevant.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the downside of the 3-4...at least the way I understand it

The down linemen’s main job is to hold ground and eat up blockers rather than put up big stats. Its a thankless job. However, the strength of that is that, ideally, you can eat up 5 or 6 offensive linemen with just the three down linemen, leaving the linebackers to free to fill holes and chase the QB around. You really need your LBs to be studs. If the front 3 allow OL to just move on to the second level (free man) then the LBs are taken out of the game it you begin to open up big lanes directly into the secondary. In a 3-4 defense like this, the majority of your tackles and sacks should come from your LBs, especially when it is running well. Any tackles/sacks/FF from the down linement are just icing on the cake. This is how I understand the general philosphy. KP please correct me if I have it wrong.

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Sep 23, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right

But I wouldn’t call the down lineman “thankless”. Two of our starters are top-5 picks and make millions of dolalrs every year. They might not be getting the headlines, but they’re well payed to eat those blocks.

by Chiefs4Life on Sep 23, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes but they get very little praise from fans who are not in the know

and any media blockhead. The media will just look at the stats (tackles, sack, etc) and determine they are underperforming or lazy. They get less love than linemen in the 4-3 defense. That was the reason for labeling it a thankless position, not the actual amount of money they make.

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Sep 23, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

But the good news for the ones on our team

is that, even if they don’t get much “love” from the talking heads, as long as they do their jobs well they will eventually re-sign with KC and get a pay raise. Dorsey and Jackson are already very highly payed and when their extension comes up it will be hard to justify giving them a pay cut as long as they are doing their job. So they might not get much national attention, but tens of millions of dollars makes a nice consolation prize.

by Chiefs4Life on Sep 23, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still...

You want, or may I say,I want a philosophy of attacking. 4/3, 3/4 doesn’t really matter. You need guys that can’t be blocked with 1 guy. The “eating up blockers” is over-played. Seems that is the difference from last year to this year so far.

by 12t on Sep 23, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Biggest differences I see are the d-linemen are playing true 2-gap.

It’s not so much taking on and beating an offensive lineman as it is keeping your head in the play and where the ball is. Not really making total sense, here, but last year’s linemen were trying to go where THEY wanted to go, regardless of where the damn ball was. If they guessed right and won that battle, it went well. Often it didn’t go well. This year, the o-lineman is just a minor annoyance, while the d-lineman watches where the ball is going and leaves himself the option of going left or right, depending on where the play goes.

Dorsey mastered this fairly quickly last year, and Shaun Smith came to KC understanding this. But all of them appear to understand that they don’t need to make the play themselves, as long as they’re sucking people out of position on offense and setting people UP on defense.

And I agree with the “eating up blockers is overplayed” comment. It’s not like they WANT to find 2 people to block them. It’s more about them staying in position, on their feet, and in position to make the play in the box, UNLESS 2 or more people force them out of position. In the 3-4, the fact that the offense needed 2 to get movement in the middle means the defense has an extra hat to throw at the resulting hole.

For the first time in many a year, I see an interior line that is as smart or smarter than the guys they’re facing.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is my favorite weekly post Kalo!

I would love to see your break down of a couple of great performances in the league, by another team’s DE, DT, ILB, OLB in the 3-4. It would be fun to see how well our guys are stacking up to consistently solid players like Wilfork, Willis etc. Maybe highlight one guy a week.

This request assumes that you enjoy watching football all week and don’t want a life.

by What a Mclusterf*ck on Sep 22, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I won't be doing another player weekly.

My wife wouldn’t exactly be happy with me spending MORE time watching/analyzing football. =)

However, on the bye week, I’m thinking about picking out some players to watch and breakdown for a comparison.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the best deal would be to make the football analysis a payin' gig.

But to get to that point, you’re likely ta piss off the ol’ lady.

If I were a younger man, or an older, retired man, I’d definitely make a push for that sportswriter gig, to see where it might go.n But with a lot of years clawing my way to security in my current profession, I’d have to be handed a writing gig on a silver platter to make a change, and there’s a shortage of silver platters in this zip code, apparently.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the hard work Kalo!

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Sep 22, 2010 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Love your work Kalo!

Got to say man, this and TMQ are two of my favorite articles that analyze football, and this is for Chiefs only, even better! Fantastic work!

Oh and first post! Long-time reader of AP but just signed up recently.

Chiefs are Back Baby!

by First_It_Giveth on Sep 22, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome!

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Sep 22, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

ditto what Lanier said

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Sep 22, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great post

This is really random, but does anyone know what’s going on with our old buddy Jared Page?

-Robbie

by Chiefsfan2012 on Sep 22, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

other than he's now with the Pats ... not a word about him lately that I've seen

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Sep 22, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

While going over the tape....

…did you happen to see any sack grabbin between smith and mack?

by dt4ever on Sep 22, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I did not, no.

To be honest, I didn’t watch incredibly closely for it. Plus, with all the movement on the lines and the distance at which the broadcast is taken, I would’ve had to have gotten a lucky replay or something.

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by KaloPhoenix on Sep 22, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand

I figured it would be a little weird if you watched the entire game looking for that anyway lol I was just curious if it would be easy for nfl officials/execs to see if it happened to fine him

by dt4ever on Sep 22, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh he looked for it ... he most definitely looked for it

in fact, Kalo emailed me this morning how disappointed he was that he couldn't find that play in question as he has a mancrush on Smith and hates to imagine that he's with some other guy, especially someone with the Browns

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
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by upamtn on Sep 22, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is Off Topic.....

I was looking at a article about the qb switch in Oakland and this is a comment a raiders fan put

“I will GUARANTEE that we will make the playoffs with Bruce at qb..as long as he can stay healthy. I honestly have that much faith in this team when he is under center. Haven’t been so confident about this team since the 2003 season before Gannon broke his neck”

Ha Ha

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by "Burt" Kc4LiFe on Sep 22, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Metrics definition

Can you add an explanation (or link to) regarding the metrics calculations? I like the post. Just want to understand more.

Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.

by austinchief on Sep 22, 2010 11:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Heh.

I took the link out to it this week. I guess I need to keep it in there.
KPM tabulation and defnition

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Sep 23, 2010 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I would keep it in each post. That helps first time series readers or anyone looking to re-reference it. It can be difficult find earlier posts. Thanks again.

Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.

by austinchief on Sep 23, 2010 6:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey Kalo...I was thinking

When you are posting the individual observations….throw in there who they were going up against.

Cause if its like Hali…Dorsey….Edwards/Smith…..Meh perfomance its a little misleading

but if your like…

Hali v. Joe Thomas….Dorsey v. Joe Thomas….Edwards/Smith v. Alex Mack….its more like “oh well therz your problem”

just if you leave it hanging seems like they played crappy…but if you match them…seems like they survived pretty well.

Make sense?

anyways, we need someone to do a write up for the secondary and a writeup for Cassel and his receiving/running game.

Team Berry

by MasterBlaster7 on Sep 23, 2010 12:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Good point. OTOH, over the course of the season, an objective metric should level those things out.

Notice Crennel swapping Hali over to the left side? I like seein’ ’em mix things up like that…

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Sep 23, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Kalo!

This is great stuff! Truly appreciate it!

by Chief_Elmo on Sep 23, 2010 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Great post, one request

could we add a cumulative points/points per snap section at the bottom. I like the idea of being able to see the points/snap as the season progresses. Awesome post though man. Really appreciate your work. As everyone else said, its my favorite to read during the week.

by polodude017 on Sep 23, 2010 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  

P.s.

Why does washington have to wear that damn number…. they should retire that number due to douchebaggary

by Tmac1166 on Sep 23, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

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