Chiefs Second Half Defense Turning It On
by Joel Thorman on Sep 19, 2010 5:32 PM CDT
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Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley has preached conditioning from the day he arrived in Kansas City. That's one of his big things and it's starting to show some of its advantages.
The Chiefs last year gave up a whopping 38 second half points in the first two games of the season. The 2010 Chiefs defense has given up just seven second half points through the same time period. That's a pretty big difference.
This defense is a relatively new phenomenon in Kansas City so Sunday against the Cleveland Browns was just the second second-half shutout in the Todd Haley era.
They also gave up 73 rushing yards, the lowest total in the last year.
Does this mean the Chiefs are better conditioned? No, not necessarily. But if does appear that they improve statistically in the second half and later in the game. That's not a bad habit to have.
The Chiefs defense also continued scoring. Brandon Flowers' second career interception made it three defensive touchdowns over the last three games (dating back to week 17 of the 2009 season).
There are a lot of interesting story lines forming with the Chiefs defense like Derrick Johnson becoming one of the better players on the team, Brandon Flowers becoming one of the better corners in the league and Tamba Hali's quiet but productive play.
This defense is becoming fun to watch.
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Agreed I love watching it
Thouh I’d really like to see our offense scoring
by SoCalChief17 on Sep 19, 2010 5:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Adjustments
Somethin our past coaches never heard of….2-0 baby! Gonna be nothin like high noon on Sunday trying to go 3-0 at the red sea! Great win boys!
Right
The adjustment in the second half against Gates last week was solid.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 19, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like our whole division wins today.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
at home, except for us
I'd rather be a failure at something I love than a success at something I hate.
- George Burns
Yep...we squeaked by fo sho.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
feels good though
we’re learning how to win
I'd rather be a failure at something I love than a success at something I hate.
- George Burns
The AFC West .....
On the rise..
Talent wise…
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Hopefully T-Jax makes it back for the 9'ers.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Anyone seen a post-game injury report for the Chiefs yet?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
9'ers got a short week and then gottal deal with us at Terrorhead.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
they gotta find their rat first, very short week
I'd rather be a failure at something I love than a success at something I hate.
- George Burns
Whadya mean...rat?
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Singletary says they have a rat leaking info to the press
When I watched the interview I kept thinking about “the departed”
I'd rather be a failure at something I love than a success at something I hate.
- George Burns
thanks bj...i'll read it right now.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
bad link...no big...I'll google it.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
They have dissention in the locker room,
and someone is leaking stuff to the press. Singletary is livid. 9’ers are about to implode. Singletary is old school (which I kinda like), but not sure if his style is working in the locker room. Cowher on a pre-game show today wondered if Singletary had lost the team.
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
hmmmm...drama.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Well...all I know, is we gotta take em down and go 3-0
to start the bye week….because when we come back from the bye week…
we have to face Peyton Manning and then right after that….a team that just whipped him.
Not gonna be easy.
Each game gets bigger than the one before it.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
I read about it...I think Cowher is reaching a bit there...
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Could be. All I know about it is what was said on that pregame show & a couple
sound bytes from Singletary. I wouldn’t be surprised if it were mostly fabricated. Cowher was a HC for 15 years however, so I think he may have a feel for these things, but who really knows for sure?
Either way it can’t hurt us if they’re having morale troubles. The more time they focus on those issues, the less time remains to work on a gameplan for us.
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
Reports are it's their QB coach, Mike Johnson.
Playcalls aren’t getting into Smith from Raye, and Raye’s taking the heat. But the only person between the QB and the OC is Mike Johnson, who coaches the QB position…
Got that from PFT this morning.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 19, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Now we just need our offense to get going…which is our achiles heel
by Arrowhead816 on Sep 19, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You'd think at some point
we’d make an adjustment to run JC more.
and WTH are all those plays we saw in the preseason
to get DMC the ball on the edge?
by KC_Satchmo on Sep 19, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We have a legit coaching staff this year
and it shows
2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting
OTOH the Chargers are freakin dominating the Jags right now
2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting
Thank you defense!
The play calling in the first half was a bit confusing on offense. In the second half it changed and I noticed that Cassel was a little pissed at the sideline on one of the drives.
We have a shot...at what...we don't know yet.
He was
as I recall he had to call a TO because they weren’t getting the play in quickly enough.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Sep 19, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
1998
This defense is really remeniscent of the 1990s defenses with Hasty and Ross on the corners. The only thing we’re missing is the big play sacker (Derrick and Neil) and that may come as the Arrowhead mystique returns.
Wouldn't it be great if this continues
and we can draft for O next year expecting Studebaker, Lewis, Berry and T-Jax to improve!
If the DT from G.B. gets up to speed and can actually play we’d be completely set.
Andre johnson is the best player in the NFL.
Period.
by craig in calgary on Sep 19, 2010 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
Who's that? lol
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
I thought his first name was Derrick.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
2nd half defense
had to have a large contribution from the (Cassel led) offense. We couldn’t keep the D off the field last year and today we finally starting picking up some 1st downs and allowed them to get a breather.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Sep 19, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
If Tyson Jackson was there today, I'd wager they don't get their two biggest runs.
Our DE rotation was okay, but the NT position suffered a bit. Tyson was beastly on Monday, so getting him back in time for Gore and Westbrook should help us keep that rushing total nice and low.
Who’d have thought our run D would be the strong part? I thought it would be our weak point, not the pass D.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
The defense looks great
and so does the offensive line in comparison to last year. .500 seems like a real thing…
by liquorstoreclerk on Sep 19, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
They looked quite a bit better in the 2nd half than the 1st.
O line still had issues getting holes opened up inside. I don’t know how many times our RB’s went to hit an inside hole and it wasn’t there. That just gives us something to work on this week.
Considering how young this team is, I’ll take an ugly, sloppy, how’d they do it win any day.
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
Me too.
I wonder if the inside run issue isn’t b/c our RG is 290 lbs, our C is 290 lbs, and our current RT is a backup LT who plays at a (lanky looking) 315 or so.
…Might be time for Daryl Harris or Asamoah to take a snap or so in there, not “starting” but on downs when we want to grind it, and see if that helps out a little.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 19, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
NE wishes they had our defense right now...
TB sack/turnover. Bring on the back up!
The 98 yard Cleveland drive
I thought it was interesting that Magee and Toribio were both in for the whole drive (or the portion of it that was in the first quarter which was until they got down to our 10 yard line) and they ran several times right up the gut like the first play that went for 10 yards Toribio got handled by the center and barely got a hand on the RB. At the end of the quarter, the starters came back in and we held them until Vrabel’s penalty, but the run defense was much stiffer. With TJAX back, 90 goes back to being a sub in the rotation and we should be even better.
game experience for those young players is invaluable. Can't wait to go back through the tape
and watch the D line (and O line) more closely.
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
Funny stat I noticed today...
Larry Johnson is going to end today’s game with 2 carries for -7 yards. How appropriate.
Hilarious. Here's to hoping they cut him before week 8...
"spend all your time on Xs and Os and Jimmys and Joes" -- Charlie Weis
You know what else would be fun to watch...
Jamal Charles being a factor. Get him the dang ball…screen plays, dump offs in the flats…something. This offense could seriously benefit from some more touches from 25. What did Johnson do last year and Charles do this year to piss off Hayley and co.?
O & D
Don’t you feel like the offense was at least a little more improved this week though. Dont know if it was weather, shorter 3rd down conversion attempts or what. And, I don’t mind TJ getting the ball as long as JC gets as many or more carries. IMO JC needs to have 15-20 carries min. to get into a groove and dominate
Defense is a lot of fun to watch. Last few years you wanted to run and hide when they were on the field, but now it’s exciting to see who’s gonna make a big play/hit! I love Berry’s toughness and willingness to stuff the run, but this is 2 weeks in a row he’s gotten burned on the playaction-he needs to grow up faster because we’ve got teams coming up that will victimize our secondary if he continues. We’ve been lucky it hasnt lost the game so far, but I dont see Manning ignoring this when we matchup.
Oh and......
3 red zone possesions and 3 FGs? I thought thats what we got TJ for?!? Dont get cute with it – just jam it down their throats!!!!
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