Chiefs vs. Packers Preseason: Getting To Know The Enemy
by Joel Thorman on Sep 1, 2010 12:59 PM CDT
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers will meet at Arrowhead Stadium on Thursday night for the preseason finale.
I talked with Brandon over at Acme Packing Company about a couple of things Packers-related items.
The first question was about Aaron Rodgers sitting out (waiting on Favre) before becoming the starter. I figured that was relevant to the Chiefs because Matt Cassel sat for several years before becoming the starter. I also asked about Bryan Bulaga. Remember him?
Two questions and answers after the jump.
How much of a difference did it make for Aaron Rodgers to sit on the bench for the first few years? Did it help him a lot?
QB Aaron Rodgers was awful during his limited playing time in 2005 and 2006. He wasn't ready and the rest of the offense didn't help him either. They rebuilt the offensive line and receiving corps through the 2006 draft. QB Brett Favre had an awful 2006 season statistically, and I can't imagine Rodgers would have done any better. His career stat lines might have avoided a couple ugly seasons, but he was ready to start by 2007. He's always seemed to have a lot of confidence in himself and I don't think an awful rookie season would have lessened it in the long run.
How's Bryan Bulaga coming along? There were some folks who thought the Chiefs might take him.
Bryan Bulaga is going to be a really good left tackle in the NFL. He looks like a natural at the position, he moves laterally with ease, and the pass rusher is done once he gets his hands on him. Unfortunately I don't expect you'll see him on Thursday because he missed the last preseason game with a hip flexor and they don't seem eager to rush him back.
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Confidence
That is what Aaron Rodgers has and Cassell doesn’t. The guy checks down way too soon. Not that he can throw a deep ball anyway though. I hope he at least makes some improvement this year. I would be happy if he just didn’t hurt us. Doesn’t have to help us, just don’t hurt us.
Confidence
That is what Aaron Rodgers has and Cassell doesn’t. The guy checks down way too soon. Not that he can throw a deep ball anyway though. I hope he at least makes some improvement this year. I would be happy if he just didn’t hurt us. Doesn’t have to help us, just don’t hurt us.
Rodgers= Pac 10 Baller
Cassel= Pac 10 poser
I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave
Brandon Jennings= Pac 10 poser
Politics aside, Obama would of better been served, buying 5 "new" football teams.
If Arizona would just lower their entrance requirements....
a la Belotti and Chip Kelly at Oregon, maybe Lute would still be around
I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave
Rodgers is starting
to make my Moniker not make any sense.
Best QB in the league IMO
by Another Failed Tedford QB on Sep 1, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
...and now he's the best QB in the league.
He’s MUCH better than Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Shit, at least Tony Romo has won a freaking playoff game.
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I said in my opinion
you hoser. Gotta stop watching so much ESPN…there are decent QBs outside of Manning, Brady and Favre.
by Another Failed Tedford QB on Sep 1, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
You’re right. The only football I watch is espn hilights.
I’m not saying Rodgers isn’t gonna be in their catagory in a year or two, but let’s see him prove himself before we CROWN HIS ASS
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Man I love that rant
“They are who we THOUGHT they were”
“If you wanna crown his ass, then CROWN him”
Whatever happened to Dennis Green?
by Another Failed Tedford QB on Sep 1, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Last I heard he was in the UFL.
I’m sure he get’s a token phone call everytime there is a head coaching position up though. Stupid rule.
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Confidence
That is what Aaron Rodgers has and Cassell doesn’t. The guy checks down way too soon. Not that he can throw a deep ball anyway though. I hope he at least makes some improvement this year. I would be happy if he just didn’t hurt us. Doesn’t have to help us, just don’t hurt us.
Confidence
That is what Aaron Rodgers has and Cassell doesn’t. The guy checks down way too soon. Not that he can throw a deep ball anyway though. I hope he at least makes some improvement this year. I would be happy if he just didn’t hurt us. Doesn’t have to help us, just don’t hurt us.
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Read any publication or listen to Sirius 124 for more than 12 minutes
Green Bay will win the Superbowl. I don’t even know why they are even going to play the games, they might as well just award them the friggin thing.
I’m not convinced however that their O-Line problem is fixed, Rodgers (until he proves elsewise) does not play well on the big stage and their secondary is beat up. They have a very hard schedule, they face some very ferocious front 4’s and they can’t run the ball consistantly. Other than all that they are a good team. I smell 8-8 or 9-7 and 2nd place in the NFC North. That being said, Lambeau field is probably the raddest place in North America and the Sports Bar adjacent to the Stadium is a good time…
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions
Dude, they took the guy we should have taken...
Bulaga is the next Willie Roaf. Combine him with Jordy Nelson (next Wes Welker) and they can’t be beat.
Politics aside, Obama would of better been served, buying 5 "new" football teams.
No, we didn't.
Whatever Bulaga does, good for him. Doesn’t mean we should have taken him, or any other player that came after #5.
That’s just the nature of the beast when you have so many needs.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
I think Adam Schein is on the pack's payroll
He’s WAY overboard on the GB to the Super Bowl thing. That said, I think they’re one of the three best in the NFC (Dallas & Minny).
If the Pack throws the ball all year, they won’t win the SB. You gotta have at least a LITTLE balance. That makes Ryan Grant a pivotal player for them this year.
Adam Schein can eat a dick.
He’s one guy who I friggin can’t stand on Sirius. He’s not even a Packer fan, he’s just a Favre hater, and always has been….and that isn’t the reason I can’t stand him. He does have some good things to say about the Chiefs, but he is WAY to opinionated and refuses to let facts and reason cloud his preconceived notions.
Actually, that sounds alot like me.
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad you said what we were all thinkin.......
“Actually, that sounds alot like me.”
Just kidding :)
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Sep 1, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas
is the most overrated team in all of sports
by South Texas Chief on Sep 1, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
If Bulaga is going to be a really good left tackle in the NFL
what’s keeping him from cracking the starting lineup? I saw an article that said the starters had been decided and Bulaga wasn’t one of them.
Spending a 1st round pick on an o-lineman who doesn’t start as a rookie is disappointing, for the team and the rookie.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Mark Taucher and Chad Clifton > Any Rookie in the League
Bulaga will get plenty of snaps in a rotation, but Tauch and Clifton still have some tread on their tires. I’m a huge Taucher fan, he gave me tickets to Lambeau on the 7th row on the 45. I sat next to Ahman Greens wife and played with the Long Snappers little kid.
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought they were even moving him inside.
im so glad we didnt listen to walter football and draft baby buluga
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Ya, because our Oline clearly doesn't need any help.
10 months of the year, the offensive struggles are attributed to the O-line. The 2 months before the draft our Oline is suddenly fine because drafting Olinemen isn’t as sexy as Safeties or Linebackers.
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Chiefs SHOULD have taken Bulaga
When you got the money O-line, you can have a Casshole-type qb
I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave
That pitcher was taken in 2004
Chiefs were #1 in total offense.
Of course having a dynamo like Johnnie Morton didn’t hurt.
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
and still watched the Superbowl at home
because our defense couldn’t stop anything.
The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.
My point was, there was a strong foundation on the O-Line
IMO building the strong Oline, you don’t need to throw a tonne of money at the offensive skill positions. I just think spending high draft picks and multimillion dollar contracts on QB’s WR’s and skat backs is less effective than building a killer line. Then again my phone ain’t exactly ringing off the hook for a personel director of a NFL team
by craig in calgary on Sep 1, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
no I agree the foundation is set on both sides of the ball in the trenches
so far Pioli has tried to address one side through the draft and still getting mixed results. The OLine has finally started to be addressed when we took Asamoah. I agree its alot cheaper to build up a dynamic OLine then put playmakers out there with them.
But in the current state of the Chiefs, its going to suck seeing the money thrown at the #5 type of picks regardless of position, just because we are so devoid of talent.
The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.
Drafting Berry is like waving the white flag
Admitting they cant stop any one, trying to stop the 60 yard bombs, trying to just set up the bend dont break
I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave
maybe so
you can look at it any different way
drafting Bulaga white flag that OLine can’t block for anything
drafting WR white flag that no one can catch
drafting NT white flag that no one can get pressure…..
The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.
Safety a luxury
Chiefs in no postion to be taking one with our shwag lines
I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave
Berry wasn't just a pick...
He was THE pick.
As he is now showing on the field…
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 1, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
But how much better is he than Nate Allen or Jairus Byrd? Could have taken either of them.
Politics aside, Obama would of better been served, buying 5 "new" football teams.
Only time will tell. Same as any other draft pick.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
A little bit better goes a long way in the NFL
Everyone in the NFL is good, a little bit more talent and a lot more motivation is what makes elite players elite. For example, I don’t think Ray Lewis is the most physically gifted MLB over the past 10 years, but he’s certainly the one I’d want to build my team around (take out whatever happened after the Super Bowl).
The key from Berry is that he’s ALREADY showing a Tom Brady like leadership on the defense. Maybe it’s just my homerisim, but I think I can see it in the way he responds to good plays by his teammates, and the way he approaches his career in general. I think he’s the type who is going to make everyone around him better, and that’s what makes him so much better than the Nate Allens that come out of every NFL draft.
Predictions:
This year will be better
by jmcgoblue on Sep 1, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
yup yup
2010 Prediction: Chiefs go 10-6 and make playoffs
Twitter: @GiftNate
Nate Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Sep 1, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
You tell me...
Nate Allen: 5 tackles.
Eric Berry: 12 tackles, 1 pass deflection
In limited stats, Berry is showing up a hell of a lot more… I mean shit… he’s leading our team in tackles… and the Chiefs total defense is ranked 6th in the preseason… I know that doesn’t mean much, but still, that’s in the company of teams that are expected to be pretty damn good on defense (Jets, Steelers, Niners, Vikings, Panthers). You tell me how much he brings to this team compared to the Allen or Byrd. Early indications lead me to think he’s a key player on the Chiefs D.
Can’t really compare Berry to Byrd just yet. Byrd has a full NFL season under him, yet hasn’t done anything this preseason. And besides… I’m not sure how we were supposed to pick Byrd. We either took him at the 3rd overall or not at all. He went 42nd overall, and we were kind of short on 2nd round picks last year.. And you call Jackson a reach ;-)
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 1, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Last I checked...we didn't actually need a LT. And that's the whole thing right there.
If we needed a LT, then we might have drafted Bulaga.
Seems like a deja vu argument here…
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
by Scott B. on Sep 1, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec
Hasn’t our LT given up, you know, zero sacks this preseason?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
You wanted to take a RT at #5...
And pay him top 5 LT money?
Also, S>RT in importance, especially in today’s NFL.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
although I agree with you that it would've been nice
to get a RT in the draft.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Hasn't played much this preseason.
That’s not to say O’Callaghan > Bulaga, but I’d argue the gap between the two, at least this year, is less than the gap between Eric Berry and Mike Brown. Additionally I’d argue that a truly elite safety (which Berry has the potential to become) in the vein of Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed generally has a bigger impact on the team than an elite right tackle. We can find a more than competent RT in the next draft, Eric Berrys don’t necessarily come along every year.
Doesn't matter much right now...
Both Bulaga and O’Cal are out indefinitely. Neither one can help their respective team while riding a bike.
2010 Prediction: Chiefs go 10-6 and make playoffs
Twitter: @GiftNate
Nate Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Sep 1, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
O'Callahan
bout to prove all you haters wrong.
Funny thing is, he protected Rodger’s blind side at Cal
by Another Failed Tedford QB on Sep 1, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll give you this...
Bulaga would have been less of a reach than TJax
Politics aside, Obama would of better been served, buying 5 "new" football teams.
A "reach" is only a reach if it doesn't work out.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
Screw the Packers!
… thought there was a little too much Packer praise on this post. Just bringing them down a notch.
I'll buy that. What's up with all the Packer love here? They suck and they're going down tomorrow night.
2010 Prediction: Chiefs go 10-6 and make playoffs
Twitter: @GiftNate
Nate Gift
by giftedchiefsfan on Sep 1, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Packer Joke
Aaron Rogers walks into his bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says…“Darling, this is the pig I have sex with when you have headaches.”His wife is lying in bed and replies…“I think you’ll find that’s a sheep, you idiot.”
Aaron says…“I think you’ll find that I wasn’t talking to you.”
-Courtesy of the internets :)
by thewhitebuffalo on Sep 1, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Chiefs beat the packers in the 4th preseason game
and quiet all their fans which are losing hope.. We are the new talk of ESPN, and picked to win the division. ..
mark it down..
by Christopher Gossage on Sep 1, 2010 6:50 PM CDT reply actions
In the last preseason game? The least meaningful of all of the meaningless preseason games?
I’m not saying the Chiefs can’t win this game. But if Brodie Croyle outplays Matt Flynn or our second and third team defenses shut down the Packer’s second and third string offenses it will not suddenly cause people to anoint the Chiefs as the favorites in the AFC West, nor will it cause those same people to proclaim the downfall of Green Bay as one of the dominant teams in the NFC. And, quite frankly, nor should it.
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