Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 8/7
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 7, 2010 3:34 AM CDT
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Morning folks. An early Arrowheadlines so I can get to the airport. Not a good day for Kansas City Chiefs news. Besides the Page allegations, the Star's Adam Teicher fires back at critics who wonder why there was a stink over a closed practice walkthrough, and the Chiefs players go head to head with Goodell. Enjoy.
In Kansas City, Waters asked Goodell directly whether the owners were planning to cut health benefits for players in the event of a 2011 lockout. Linebacker Tamba Hali stood up and flat-out asked why the owners had opted out of the collective bargaining agreement.
"He couldn't give us any answers," Waters said. "All he said was, 'They weren't happy.' If we ask you why they weren't happy and all you can say is, 'They weren't," then how can you say we're having an open dialogue and this isn't just a P.R. move so you can say, 'Hey, I went and talked to the players?'"
If it were that, it hasn't gone the way Goodell hoped it would. What the commissioner has found is an angry attitude among players who are concerned that they'll be locked out in 2011.Goodell's Locker Room Meetings Aren't Going Well from FanHouse
Kudos to the Chiefs fans who understand that this seemingly silly skirmish over media practice access is a small battle in a bigger war.
The Chiefs have increasingly tried to smother local media coverage by limiting access to the general manager, players, assistant coaches and other football staff. Now they're starting in with training camp practice...
...The NFL has a policy regarding media access to coaches, players and practice. I won't bore you with details other than to say some teams meet the minimums in the policy while some go beyond. The Chiefs generally meet the bare minimum in most areas except with regard to access to assistant coaches, where they've failed miserably. The policy requires access to assistant coaches at training camp, but a week into camp, despite numerous requests, the Chiefs have denied Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel and other assistants the chance to speak to you, the fans, through the media...
...So if you find yourself somewhat amused by all of this, you can go ahead and laugh. But don't complain when the day comes that the only Chiefs information you get is the information Scott Pioli wants you to have.
Here's why you should care about media access from The Red Zone
Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 89. South southeast wind between 3 and 10 mph.
Saturday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 73. South wind between 6 and 9 mph.Training Camp Forecast from The National Weather Service
The agent for Chiefs safety Jarrad Page sent an e-mail to a Kansas City radio station Friday, stating that Page had been mishandled, was injured because of coach Todd Haley’s negligence and that trade requests had been ignored by the team.Page spent most of last season on injured reserve because of a calf injury, and he has yet to sign the Chiefs’ restricted free-agent offer for the 2010 season. Page didn’t participate in Kansas City’s offseason program, including mandatory workouts. He hasn’t reported to training camp in St. Joseph, and the e-mail stated that Page no longer keeps a residence in the Kansas City area and has moved to his native California.
Chiefs’ day in camp Friday from KC Star
The gates open for Family Fun Day at 11 a.m. today at Spratt Stadium. The players will sign autographs at 1:10 p.m. before the scrimmage starts at 1:30. Admission to the event is $10, and children three years and younger are admitted for free.
The event will also include appearances by the Chiefs cheerleaders, KC Wolf and Warpaint, the horse the team re-introduced last year to run the Arrowhead field after touchdowns and field goals...
...According to Haley, the players will be live, meaning that tackling will happen for the first time this camp. Usually, defensive players wrap the offensive player but don’t force them to the ground. Of course, quarterback Matt Cassel will wear his yellow quarterback jersey and will not be sacked.
Page's holdout rolls on from News-Press Now
KC Star Photo Gallery: Kansas City Chiefs history commemorated in Hall of Honor at Arrowhead Stadium
News-Press Now Photo Gallery: Chiefs Training Camp
The Chiefs finally got serious about obtaining a high-quality kick-return specialist when they selected not one but two in the second round of this year’s draft.
Dexter McCluster and Javier Arenas are now battling on the training-camp practice field to be the return specialist. Their ability is sparking hope among the Chiefs that McCluster or Arenas and possibly both can do for them what Hall once did.
Chiefs hope rookies can add kick to return game from KC Star
The biggest cheer of the roughly two-hour practice came during an unlikely drill: punting practice.
Near the beginning of the drill, six-year veteran punter Dustin Colquitt boomed a high, spiraling, 51-yard punt.
Loud "oohs" and "ahhs" came from the crowd as the punt reached its apex and then was caught by waiting rookie speedster Dexter McCluster.
Colquitt said he didn’t hear the loud response during the drill but was nonetheless pleased that the fans appreciated a good, high punt.
"That makes me smile," said Colquitt, a six-year veteran from Tennessee. "It’s good."
When asked if those types of cheers are what punters wait for during training camp, Colquitt quipped with a laugh: "Sure. The specialists are here."
Day 7 morning practice observation from News-Press Now
If you read the paper or listened to the radio, the subject usually shifts back to the Missouri heat. For every player on the Kansas City Chiefs, it’s their first time in dealing with it for an entire training camp. There may have been a couple difficult days in River Falls, but nothing like summertime in Kansas City.
Maybe I’m not sensitive to the whole debate – perhaps I’m not. After talking to my friend who’s a season ticket holder, I know I’m not. He makes it a point to fly back to Kansas City for every home game. He’s been steady for the last four seasons. He’s a diehard fan and wouldn’t change a thing, but it’s not cheap. It costs him in the neighborhood of $500 a game. Again, he loves every tailgating minute of it, but that’s not the point. Does he shed a tear over whether the players are hot or not?
Let me answer that – no.
Chiefs Players Can Take the Heat from The Examiner
Haley singled out four rookies in particular. Wide receiver Dexter McCluster, safety Kendrick Lewis and linebacker Cameron Sheffield, all practiced well. McCluster scored on a long touchdown pass while Lewis broke up three passes, including two in the endzone. Haley also had nice things to say about tight end Tony Moeaki. "I think it was pretty obvious that this young tight end, looked like he wasn’t affected a whole bunch by that situation. He continued to do the things he has been doing in practice. All the sudden they are under the lights and it created a different atmosphere for them and at the same time."Haley holds high praise for rookies (AUDIO) from Missourinet
"(Former Miami Dolphins quarterback) Bob (Griese) got up and he said, 'This guy was a great football player,'" Little said. "Same with (former Kansas City Chiefs linebacker) Willie Lanier. They were (my contemporaries), and they each said that (I) should have been in long before now.
"But the time is now for me. This is my time, and I've got to accept that as my time, and I can't be mad about being overlooked because I played for the Broncos my whole career."
Little has no hard feelings for years of being overlooked from NFL.com
Chiefs' Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones: Once Charles got hold of the starting job last season, there was no stopping him. During the last eight games of the season, only the Titans' Chris Johnson (1,047) rushed for more yards than Charles, who capped the year with a club-record, 259-yard performance at Denver. But Charles is slightly built - 5-11, 199 pounds - and the muscular Jones - 5-10, 212 - will help keep Charles fresh for the long grind as well as extend his own career.Running the league: NFL teams using multiple running backs to split workload from The Victoria Advocate
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You weren't lying when you said it was going to be a very early Arrowheadlines!
Have a safe flight man.
One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.
I am also excited...
…but they are both rookies, so I temper my expectations this year. Mistakes will be made (but I think a few game braking plays will be made too!)
Yeah, rookies
but I’m pretty sure even as rookies they’ll both do better than the VET Brown did for us. Let’s just stay hopeful.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Rookies
Cant wait they will be fine .I like having some speed back there and good tackling.I liked Page but always thought he was a bit to big and slow.He could just lay a nice hit on thats it.Think Berry can do it all.
The way I see it
Is we aren’t expected to do much this year, why not develop the safeties so they are game ready next year once we have another draft and more familiarity with the system. I say now is as good as any time to get these rookies game ready.
Yo're kidding right?
Expectations are kind of high among the fan base right now.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 7, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Rookies with the help of a VET
I am very hopeful and excited about Lewis and Berry being in the secondary, and to doubt them right off the bat might be unfair. Yea, they’re rookies and they will make mistakes every once in a while, but so do veterans. It’s awesome going to training camp and seeing Jon McGraw talking to both these players and coaching them at the position. Even though he hasn’t been a ProBowl safety, McGraw has been around the game a while and has a great attitude towards helping the youngsters out.
I'm sick of hearing about this crap. really? you expected the GM residing in NE for spygate to care more about rules than winning?
Kudos to the Chiefs fans who understand that this seemingly silly skirmish over media practice access is a small battle in a bigger war.
The Chiefs have increasingly tried to smother local media coverage by limiting access to the general manager, players, assistant coaches and other football staff. Now they’re starting in with training camp practice…
I know it is not the save, and I do not wish to insult our great servicemen in any way in this comparison. But in a lesser, almost irrelevant sense, this is like wartime battle planning. I love to read Chiefs news, and I’d love to be a fly on the wall at One Arrowhead Dr. In fact, it would make a good reality tv show. But the fact of the matter is I want the Chiefs to win. And have advantages to win.
The military doesn’t broadcast every battle plan, nor every little mission. Nor should it.
Somehow and sometime ago, the News companies decided to play politics, and decided that they had every right to everything whether or not it was detrimental to our military, to our Country.
So yes, I do think it is silly.
How I long for the days when the News was merely a service to keep one informed. Now it is just an entertainment business….where the only thought is money first.
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
by chief Stevie_k on Aug 7, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
even more chief Stevie_k
When somebody refuses to give in to their pressure, they vilify you in the same press that they supposedly want to glorify you in when you win games. They try to stir up public resentment for you because you ’won’t’ let them do their jobs. I agree with your position. It is no longer reporting the news that we see, rather we are exposed to these jokers making news. The truth is no longer as important as what could be true. The political slant to it is enough to make one ill.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
by Aiken_Drum on Aug 7, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and, even more chief Stevie_k and Aiken_Drum........take it a step further. The media, both
national and sports media, INVENT news so that they can look important and to satisfy their own agenda and egos. They have their own bias, and they are not supposed to, so they push stories in the direction that they want to go. If they could, they would get by with making Haley and Pioli out as bad guys all the time. Haley wants to protect his players and coaches so that they can play and coach. Oh, how dare he.
by jcox31mc on Aug 7, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You 3 guys above are "Right On" Rec'd
Freedom of the press, has taken on a whole new meaning these days. All I can say is, they suck.
Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010
by ChiefsChance on Aug 7, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
After reading this Garbage the past couple days...
I’ve thought… has The Star brought me any information about the Chiefs regarding training camp. I shortly realized that I hadn’t read anything recently coming from the star.
Funny that The Star gets more of my attention from NON reporting aka as drama than actually reporting what is going on in camp and practices. I guarantee they are getting more hits on this BS drama.
As for me I’m going to do my best to not watch this train wreck of a paper put. This is the only way that I can think of to help make this drama go away.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Is this lock-out going to happen?
I’m nervous.
I think the owners are a bunch of greedy pigs.
Whoever said, 'It's not whether you win or lose that counts,' probably lost.
Martina Navratilova
by tigers and chiefs fan on Aug 7, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
I believe that you are wrong. The owners have invested millions and want to protect their
investments. The players want their millions, sainthood, celeb statis and all the benefits that they can possibly get (this is not all players, many of them truely love the game and want to play for that reason). Just look at salaries. The owners should be able to earn (or lose) as much money as their investment justifies. It should have no direct bearing on what the players earn but since most franchises are very profitable, this whole issue for years (because of the unions) is that the players want “their fair share.” To start with, there would not be an NFL if it wasn’t for owners taking a chance and starting it. And, I wonder over the years, how many owners lost money? Does the league and players own them the dollars back?
agreed
When is it going to be enough when no real fan can go to the game.We will have to watch from home because only the super rich will be able to go to the game like the super bowl.I think they make a great living for playing a game and is the best sport in my opinon. I know I am not getting rich at work so they need to quit winning because they are both making a hell of a living.NEEED A ROOKIE SALARIE CAP FOR SURE.
Jarrad
they need to get rid of page he asked for trade 2 yrs in a row and other teams are willing to give us some value for him rather than just taking a roster spot. He couldnt take todd hailey’s heat send his cry baby outa here
media and CBA
At CBA time and press access conflicts, we see NFL economics rather than the entertainment product we love. Tteams that want to remain profitable had better be certain they don’t go too far with restricting media (shutting out fans), or restricting pay to players (shutting out talent). In turn, players had better be certain they are not going to hurt their own teams with salary demands. I hope we agree there are a lot of moving parts, and it’s a moving target. For example, when additional restrictions are being considered for media access, it’s a complex relationship: media can occasionally leak team secrets, but they also are the conduit for broadcasting game and maintaining a fan base. $$$
I hope we are not going to mess with things too much in KC. A lot of changes have to be made to win, but not one more change beyond that. Going too far means the team goes back to a losing direction, just for new reasons. If this is right, then it appears that those who believe we need additional changes, for example, “shut down the media and let Pioli decide what goes out”, or “player salaries are the problem” are only correct to a partial extent. Pioili and Haley may have already brought what it takes to win in KC. Consistently progressing with a general plan of excellence and hard work that began last year is a good idea. Additional changes beyond what are needed to win, especially for the sake of say, ego or control, hopefully are not being considered by the Chiefs.
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