FanPost vs. FanShot

IMO you are right on.

And glad to have you aboard. Admitting your guilt — that takes a lot.

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6.is my favorite
9, Big pet peeve of mine! and Tony Gonzales….

“The way I see it, if you’re gonna build a time machine into a post, why not do it with some style?”

If my calculations are correct, when this post hits eighty-eight comments per hour… you’re gonna see some serious shit.

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to speak of Michael J Fox…
;)

As in “neighbor” and “weigh”

And generally if you’re writing a lot, you’ve put some thought into it.

Basically, what we’re trying to avoid is the 7 or 8 sentence post that predicts an 11-win Chiefs season because Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel are great, Matt Cassel will be improved and Jamaal Charles is awesome….with no facts or anything else to support your position. The beauty of this site is that the commenters will challenge you to back up what you have to say, you know?

I’m not sure that we’ve ever deleted a FanPost just because I thought it was terrible. I mean maybe at some point I have but certainly not often (if ever).

What R&G is asking for is to put time into your post and make it as good as you can so that way others do the same and it raises the quality of stories for everyone.

It is, after all, about creating competition :)

If a bunch of users are putting up short little posts that don’t really have a point to them, they’re killing posts from contributors that are putting time and effort into what they’re posting.

On top of that, I don’t think that a longer post necessarily makes it a “quality” post. I’m just asking that people look over what their contributing to AP and ask themselves if they’re adding anything to the site, or if they’re just adding clutter/repeated thoughts.

just a tip for not getting flamed for no reason other than not knowing :)

it’s a good point for all of AP to remember

It’s ok being a little green, but you still did a great job taking something out there in the sports world (Larry Fitzgerald and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie) and putting a Chiefs insight on it (Bowe and Flowers). I personally like your post. Just keep posting man, you’ve got the right idea.

Can’t catch them all but I catch most.

That said, I don’t recall moving any of yours. Maybe I did and I’ve just forgotten.

We do have a 75 word limit but usually hitting 80 words would still get it moved.

I understand your point of view and I’ll keep that in mind moving forward.

Is never an issue. That’s not taken into account.

Probably by “low traffic time” you might mean in the middle of the night and then I miss it in the morning. I think that’s what you mean (obviously clarify if it’s not).

Lanier63 only produces gold.

I do know what you mean. It is frustrating. Hopefully this will help (every little bit helps).

Your second post falling into “oblivion” is part of what got the ball rolling on me bringing this up.

Great work MN, I like your stuff and like I said before, I look forward to seeing more of your contributions.

Everyone that chooses to post as a way to express their opinion and fanhood should do so; however, to ensure maximum exposure to the posts that contribute the most (such as your posts that have graced the recommended section and the front page) there must be a distinct section for those more elaborate works.

Encouragement to post can also come from seeing guys that are pretty new themselves post great material, such as MNchiefsfan and RockChalkChiefs (although it disgusts me to type rockchalk) in just weeks after joining.

I added a couple that were short because others were doing the same.

That’s what we’re trying to curb. It has nothing to do with old guard vs. new guard. It’s simply the organization of the site.

The FanPosts are at the top because they deserve more attention. Those are the things you spend a little more time on so we would prefer people see those first rather than a question, a quick thought, a link, video, etc. and stuff that goes into the FanShots section. Both are important but if we had to pick one or the other to put up top (which we must by the design of the site) then I would rather have folks see the post you spent an hour vs. one asking a question or a quote. Just trying to reward people for their work.

That said, it’s not the first time we’ve heard that about the FanShots section but there’s not much we can do about it.

In spite of RGBs intentions, this kind of thing has the potential to discourage new posters and give the impression that the ‘old guard’ runs the program.

I definitely DON’T want to give that impression. I’ve pointed out that this really shouldn’t be an “old guard” is more deserving of posting than others type thing. Like I said somewhere above…. that’s the last thing we want AP to become.

I believe that my posts get recs because people like them. Based on this post, how many will think that they didn’t get recs because we at AP are so stodgy we call people out for putting posts in the wrong place?

My thing is the quality of what’s being posted. There are a lot of FanPosts going up that aren’t getting many recs or comments. I don’t think it has as much to do with older APers holding a grudge against them because they’re putting it in the wrong spot as much as the post just isn’t very good. Yeah, I’m challenging people to put their work in the proper section… but more so than that I’d like to stress the importance of putting their best work out there. I think you of all people can understand that buddy :)

you sure you dont want to put this in a fanpost though? :)

So take that for what it’s worth: comments are sometimes better than Shots/Posts

I hear that. I actually prefer to drive conversations by being an active commenter, more so than being a poster. Like I said, I don’t generally like to do FanPosts… because I see them as a lot of work. It’s much easier… and better for the site… if I leave my diarrhea of the keyboard to the comment sections.

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I like in this 5 paragrpah response, the third paragraph starts with “Finally.” Wrap that shit up.

Your posts are very informative

Not quite sure what to do about it because it would be nearly impossible to police.

I try to keep profanity out of my comments because there are usually more intelligent words to use, but the internet is NEVER going to be family friendly. Especially sites that have commenting like AP.

But I generally try to avoid it unless I’m really worked up or am trying to add emphasis to something. I tend to use “freaking” and “effin’” more often.

I think AP is generally pretty good about it. There was only one incident I can think of where someone was dropping repeated f-bombs… and he’s now banned.

And who can forget the great Matt Cassel “Shut the f@#& up” quote?

unless they’ve been front paged or went to recommended by Joel.

FYI – I don’t put them in the Recommended list. If they get 17 recs, it goes up there.

none of us can READ!

Welcome to AP
Rec’d = recommended reading
Hope you offer your opinions and posts often, this is one cool site.

Those are comments that are rec’d at least 3 times.

.. you will see a red word ‘actions’.
If you click that word you can choose to ‘Rec’ (recommend) , or ‘Flag’ (mark as inappropriate) that individual post or comment.

Posts that get somewhere in the neighborhood of 15+ ’Rec’s’ are automatically moved to recommended fanpost section where they are temporarily ‘stickied’ in place until something else knocks them off. This allows for a good post to continue to generate discussion for awhile, instead of being buried under a mountain of other posts.

Comments on posts/shots that get 3+ ‘Recs’ turn green so that they stand out from the rest of the comments.

Posts or Shots that are ‘Flagged’ get an entirely different kind of attention. I believe the site mod’s get some kind of notification that something has been flagged, so that they can check of a post/comment needs to be moved, edited, or removed.

Please USE the action tab to ‘Rec’ or ‘Flag’ posts and comments; especially if you come across a really good post that deserves further discussion. — It really keeps the site interesting and furthers the conversation. it’s also a nice pat on the back for the person that puts time, effort, and thought into their posts.