Injury To Lions S Louis Delmas Brings Chiefs S Jarrad Page Back Into Focus
by Joel Thorman on Aug 5, 2010 9:45 AM CDT
in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Season
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PrintAt the beginning of July we got word that the Lions had contacted the Chiefs regarding safety Jarrad Page, who has yet to sign his restricted free agent tender. A few weeks later, ESPN's Len Pasquarelli "confirmed" our report that the Lions are indeed interested in Page.
The connection of course is Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, who was on the Chiefs staff when Page was drafted.
Since then it's been relatively quiet on the Page front. Page is still listed on the Chiefs roster we're given at camp and Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com just recently started listing him under practice inactives perhaps as a reminder that the Chiefs control his rights.
Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk now passes along rumors floating around that Lions safety Louis Delmas, who hasn't participated in any training camp activities to date, might have an injury more serious than some thought. Lions beat writers are denying that the injury is of the season-ending variety but it brings Page back into focus.
If Delmas' injury is a concern -- and right now that's debatable -- then they might be interested in adding another safety.
Such as Jarrad Page.
Media folks around Chiefs training camp including myself don't expect Page to ever suit up for the Chiefs again. I've said that I think the Chiefs are holding onto him for now because they don't want to give off the perception that you can force your way out of town. I've also said that I think they're holding onto him for now because inevitably a training camp injury will hit making Page a more attractive --and thus more expensive -- option.
It's all speculation at this point but Delmas' injury does bring the Lions interest in Page back into focus.
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"Sooner or later"
“Reports are it could happen as early as today”
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by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe this will bump up his trade value with the lions
Get rid of him
by sapper12b on Aug 5, 2010 9:56 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Are there any LBs
on the Lions roster that we would be targeting in the trade? Or is future draft pick more of a possibility?
Pioli has gotta be loving that then
Get rid of a player that doesn’t fit the direction of the team and gain future pick……Kendrick Lewis is sealing Page’s fate, and lookin like a real smart pick so far!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Aug 5, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
They have the MLB
Levey that looked to be a promising Rookie out of college last year, I am not sure of his play time though. I think draft picks are the pest way to go here, but if we can get some young talent to why not.
I would doubt we get a player for 2 reasons...
….1. That player would show up late to training camp at this point and have to play catch up (no pun intended). There are good vibes going on right now so it might not be wise to add anyone to mess it up, unless that player was talented enough to start.
2. Pioli didn’t draft that player. It appears that the Front Office has a specific method for drafting players to cultivate the culture and leadership of the team. I doubt they would desire someone drafted by the Lions.
I would guess getting a draft pick would be better, so we can decide which player to use it on. Just my thoughts for what its worth.
If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.
-Steve Nash
While I agree with you
and I doubt they would pick up a player, I don’t think it has anything to do with reason #1. The FO has show consistantly that they will bring in guys at any point of the season.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
Point taken
However, I wonder how much shuffling will be done now that we are seemingly OUT of transition/rebuilding mode. What I mean is….could last year have been an exception cause they were trying to find core players and realized they were not contenders anyway? I tend to think that now that they have their nucleus, we will see much fewer waiver wire moves.
If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.
-Steve Nash
Fewer yes
But this may be our last chance (hopefully) to be as high on the waiver wire as we are this year. While I hope they are happier with the current roster than they were last year, I don’t see them passing on a player they like.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
They said
Regardless of what the team record is they always shuffle the bottom of the roster. You never settle with what you have you are always looking for a diamond in the ruff. So I think even if/when we are competitive we will still see the rotating door. That is just how this FO thinks.
The poor track record...
…of the Lions front office in accumulating talent would seem to support your theory. I believe Pioli would prefer a draft pick in this scenario.
How about a 5th rounder for a 5th rounder?
Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys.
Page will not be a factor for the Chiefs
Kendrick Lewis has almost literally taken pages locker, packed it up, and set his gear outside of Arrowhead. Hopefully we can squeeze something out of this trade… like Suh :-)
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
by SwimCoach on Aug 5, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Suh for Page
I’d take that one.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
This what I like about people on this site.
You never let a little thing like reality get in the way of your dreams. :)
or..
Calvin Johnson :) would never happen but would win us the west for sure
by WichitaChiefsfan85 on Aug 5, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I know Page is being kinda a deuche right now but I personally would really like to see him play next to Berry.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
no way...
have you been reading about Kendrick Lewis?
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Get those guys clicking NOW
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
dbl rec
Snap the f*cking ball, Brodie.
by scottbwalters on Aug 5, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I am saying... who needs page
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
I agree
we may as well go with lewis he sounds to be really solid, and if you start John Mcgraw we are only taking steps back. He may be good at speacial teams but he is not a starter.
history will show
that going into a season with two rookie safeties is a bad idea.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
show me this study and then show me the study of how players do after playing together for long periods of time and overcoming adversity
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
seriously? you gotta go there?
c’mon. use common sense and honestly tell me you think any team wants to go with TWO ROOKIES at safety. You are telling me you don’t think we would be better WITH Page?
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I do.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
I agree. There's no way we would be better with a guy
who doesn’t want to play for the Chiefs, and more likely, now hates them and the coaches. That automatically disqualifies him from ever possibly being one of the right 53. It’s insane to think he could ever suit up for the Chiefs again.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
Besides, I think that Pioli will now be able to get a third round
pick for him, who could turn out to be a very fine football player.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
Also...
Sometimes freshman come in and are flat out better then Juniors in college…. that is what is going to happen with the Lewis/Page situation.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
But you say that like it's fact?!?!?!
You….Don’t…..Know…..
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
nor. do. you
saying it as a coach, not a fact.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
Swimming isn't quite the same as football...
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Easy now.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
You're right...
Sorry SC… not trying to be a dick.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
But you are succeeding. (=
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Nah, I'm just on par.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
What's your handicap?
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
4.3 right now.
Lets get an AP game together.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
For real?
I’m down to 9 and I was geeked!
I’m in!
by craig in calgary on Aug 5, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I was 1.4 last season at this time.
Tanking. can’t get anything going this year. Injuries don’t help. Nor does age. lol
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Then you better not sign your tender!
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Nah, it would just end in fisticuffs.
Beer is good.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Hah...
Like that wouldn’t end the same?
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
hmmm.
full contact golf. Never tried to play in shoulder pads.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Who's gonna be 2.7?
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010
by trentchiefsfan on Aug 5, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
We left that guy floating in the water trap.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
face down I hope.
and…“water trap”.
CLASSIC
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Where you from BigRed?
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Salina.
It’s okay, you don’t have to feel bad for me. (;
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Really? Cool.
Out here in Hays. In Salina all the time though. Thought maybe you were in Nebraska.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Everyone does....
I wish I was most of the time.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Should I pick you up on the way to the MNF game?
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I wish! Hahaha!
Betwixt work and my family my plate is usually full… not to mention I’m trying to buy a new house….
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Well, Good luck.
Market in Salina is high.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
This
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Thread
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
is
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
too small
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
nice
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
and...
That’s what she said
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Then cut down your sig line!
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Tell me about it.
Trying to find something in a surrounding town… like Minneapolis or Lindsborg….
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Lindsborg is nice
Played football at Bethany in 1988. Not a bad commute.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Amazing.
There was nothing South of the Midstate Mall back then.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Have a great day.
Later
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
See ya!
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Funny, we moved to Salina in 1988!
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
small world.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
GBR
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!
by jakethesnake27 on Aug 5, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn straight!
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
I think he's in the sand trap actually...
His YPC handicap
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010
by trentchiefsfan on Aug 5, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
ugh, accidently pressed post
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010
by trentchiefsfan on Aug 5, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
it comes effortlessly for some of us
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!
by jakethesnake27 on Aug 5, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
lol.
I held off the temptation to make that comment.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
first word
“Sometimes”
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
sometimes complaciency sets in
Page was probably used to be a starter on the losing team.
This is our year.
But we know to the extent that we have confidence in
Pioli’s personnel decisions. I’d take that bet anytime.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
No I haven't been reading about him...
Who's Kendrick Lewis?
Of course I have. My point is that I would just like to see Page come in and compete at the position. If he gets beaten out then okay but if he comes in and plays well, as I suspect he would, then we have that much better of a secondary. Page isn’t a trash player that needs discarded.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
by BigRedChief on Aug 5, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
Page is not competition. You can be competition if you are so damn concern about contract issues rather than mastering the Safety responsibilities in a 3-4 Defense. I rather Lewis beat out McGraw then Page. Page has been out a year…
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
So in that year he has completely forgotten how to play safety in the NFL?
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
by BigRedChief on Aug 5, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Were you an athlete?
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
BRC is a bare knuckle boxer...
You better watch it buddy ;-)
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Athlete..
not an idiot
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
lol
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
What the hell does that have to do with my prior statement?
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
If we had taken Okung instead...
Then we would be talking about how Page is the anchor at safety and how he would be grooming Lewis.
Page is solid. I am amazed at how quickly you would throw the baby out with the bath water.
By the way SwimCoach, don’t take this wrong. I very much respect your opinion.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
If we had taken Okung instead
Page would still be holding out in all likelihood.
So we’d be even worse off.
I do agree that Page is solid. But he has no desire to play here anymore.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Obligitory stupid question
How exactly does the front 7 impact a safeties play? Does a safety not have the same resposibilities in a 3 man front as he does in a 4 man front?
by craig in calgary on Aug 5, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
pretty close, yes
But the pressure the 7 create make a huge impact on big plays for the safeties. That pressure will also allow Berry to creep down into the box once in a while and raise hell. If they don’t get a push, you can plan on Berry being on his heals all day.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
He isn't trash, but he's of no value to the Chiefs at this point, other
than the draft pick we will be able to obtain for his services to another team.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
Every situation is different
a six seed had never won a super bowl until the giants did, no team was ever thought to be so bad they would lose all 16 games but the lions did. I can go on but I don’t want to be pedantic; we are in the present, in an every changing NFL. These Rookies are ahead of the game compared to the predecessors through out the years, everything is possible and I for one am willing to take that chance.
No arguement
But, I’m going to cringe when they get burned a few times when they get out of position or try to make the big play and miss. I can hear the commentators now…“Well, the secondary got burned over the top on that play, but that’s to be expected when you have young and inexperienced players starting back there. These kids will get there, but the Chiefs will have to live with some growing pains until they do”.
Nothing wrong with it… just saying. I’m gonna cringe. That’s all.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Well we were constantly getting burned with vets back there last year
At least this year we can say “well, take solace in the fact that they’re young and will improve”.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
I thought the '05 steelers were a 6 seed?
I remember them winning all of their games on the road…maybe they were a 5 seed, not sure.
If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.
-Steve Nash
I stand corrected
The giants were the third, the Steelers, with the sixth and final seed to the playoffs, became just the second team ever (and the first in 20 years) to win three road games on their way to the Super Bowl.
The beauty of participative sports websites....
…I cannot wait to bring that piece of trivia out this year. ;-)
If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.
-Steve Nash
So is Brodie Croyle. Training camp and real games are two completely different situations. Page has proven that he can play in the actual games, Lewis is still an unknown.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Aug 5, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bam! and there you have it!
I can’t get that point through to SwimCoach though.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
You say that like your right, and he's wrong...but it's the other way around.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
Didn't he change his name to Brodie Crumple?
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
You mean Brokie Crumple?
With the 5th pick in the 2010 draft the Kansas City Chiefs select Eric Berry of Tennessee!
BRC, I like Page's talent as well, but ...
… ain’t gonna happen, I just know it … if he’d signed before camp opened then yeah, maybe things might have been resolved, but I think he’s buried himself with this thing now, and there’s no turning back for him, or the team … gone past the point of no return, and so it goes
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
What's up Ups?
Yeah, I didn’t say he was gonna play but apparently that’s how everyone took it… which is fine, at least it made for conversation. I would just like to see him compete in camp is all.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Kind of pisses me off though
We are a better team WITH him on it. If he could park his frigg’n ego for a minute, he might realize that he’s trying to jump off a bus that’s headed in the right direction at 120mph.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
there has to be more to it
I think he may not like someone on a personal level, and being a professional athelete you sometimes have to put that aside and move on, which I don’t think Page is going to do. In a professional atmosphere you have to leave the personal stuff aside.
This is our year.
That was true last year, but not now. We are not better fielding traitors.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
Pioli and Haley are as much about depth and competition as anything
If Page has hitched his waggon to the hope of an injury getting him his starting job he has miscalculated. I am stil not sure that we have seen the end of Page as a Chief. He could have been traded already if that was the plan. I would bet that Page is holding out for a multi-year deal and Pioli is telling him he won’t do it until next year. This collective bargaining agreement could very well be the wedge here.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
not to mention
Pioli probably doesn’t find negotiating with Page’s brother all that fun, I mean is the guy(brother) even a real agent, or just a figurehead?
This is our year.
is it worse than when
Waters represented himself?
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
probably is worse
because you have your brother telling you in your ear, what “he” thinks your worth. At least Waters can walk in there and say “look, I know this is what I’m worth so lets talk”
This is our year.
Of course it is. Waters representing himself should not even be compared to Page's
representation by his brother. Waters is a highly respected man of integrity. Page is a hold-out who wants more than what he’s worth.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
We're not in a hurry to trade him though.
He’s not taking an active roster spot. He can sit and rot on his couch in Cali for all the Chiefs care.
The best thing to do would be hold out trading him until a team ends up over paying for him because of an injury… such as the Lions or Ravens. We’re not in any hurry to move him.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Page gets traded to the Lions... Yeah, I think it's going to happen.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions
unless Lions management logs on here
and sees all the pictures of him getting burned, then they may change their idea.
This is our year.
Lions management is too drunk to figure out how to log on to anything other than a bar stool.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I can kinda see Page's point here....
… I think it’s fair to say he has played to a level above his contract and now, considering the injury last year, he wants to make some money beacause who knows how long his body will last.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
They offered him 2 million to play this year...
He turned it down. I don’t think he’s worth more than 2 million a year.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
especially coming off his injury
is he worth a new contract? Yes. But should we throw the checkbook at him and walk away, no, which is what I think Pioli is going to do, sit around and see if he will perform this year for us to earn that paycheck.
This is our year.
but is that a liability Pioli is willing to take?
who know how long his body will last
why should we re-sign him for $$$$millions and just “pray” that he stays healthy.
This is our year.
So you wouldn't want to maximize your income at a job where you could lose everything on any given play?
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
of course I would want to
but only if it was feasible. He was injured last year, so he needs to get into KC, take a physical and should be out on the field right now, showing everyone he deserves the money.
This is our year.
You have to meet somewhere in the middle.
Page ought to realize that a 2 million dollar tender to play for one year and prove you are worthy of a long term deal is a pretty freaking sweet offer.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but he wants a CONTRACT not a one year tender, sweet or not.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
And therein lies the problem.
If it were Herm and Peterson, he’d have his deal. The fact that Pioli shows up last year, sees Page get hurt, miss most of the year, then demand a new contract isn’t doing a lot to help Page’s case.
Page is an average safety at best right now. Pioli simply IS NOT going to pay this guy a long term deal until he can prove that he can stay healthy.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree but I can see where Page is coming from....
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
almost any working man can see where Page is coming from
but from Pioli’s standpoint, I can see where he is coming from, and just wish that this whole thing could have turned out differently. I would rather us have to cut someone at cut down time because we have to many quality players at one position instead of having to rely on unknowns, and career backups.
This is our year.
I don't think ANY working man can because there are alot of working men (and women) on here...
…who rip the guy apart anytime they hear his name.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
well I can see it from both sides
I wouldn’t mind Page coming back, and also dont mind the stance Pioli has taken, so maybe Im just in the minority.
This is our year.
Me too then.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Me too..
But like I said they need to meet in the middle.
Pioli is aware of Page’s talent. That’s why he put a 2nd round tender on him. IMO, Pioli has been fair with Page. He’s essentially giving him 2 mil to prove his worth.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
A little ignorant here so help me out...
If he signs the tender can’t he be signed by another team who must match the tender or is it too late for that? That might be Pages best option at this point and work against the Chiefs if he gets nabbed by another team without getting anything in return.
BigRedChief
The thing is, Page has to play by the rules that HIS union negotiated. If he has a problem with it then he should take it up with the union. Much better players than Page have accepted the rules and signed similar tenders, I don’t see what makes him so special. Besides that, if he doesn’t like the rules he can always give the NFL the finger & go do something else. I’m sure he has lots of other options that will pay him about $1.5 million every year, or more.
Another thing, all he said was that he wants to be traded, not that he wants a new contract with the Chiefs. It could be that he doesn’t like the environment & just wants to go somewhere else.
Predictions:
This year will be better
I'm not sure what rule Page is breaking or not following.
Nothing requires him to sign the tender. He is not under contract. He’s playing the system as much as Pioli is and that is his right as much as it is Pioli’s.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I guess I should have fully qualified that
IF he wants to play in the NFL he has to follow the rules of the CBA. Pioli had every right to put a 2nd round tender on Page, because it’s allowed in the CBA. Page obviously has the right to not sign the tender, but he also has to follow the CBA and risk not playing this year…or whatever the rules are.
And again, he’s being offered $1.6 million, and will be a free agent immediately after this season ends. It’s not like he’s being shafted under that deal.
Predictions:
This year will be better
He is following the CBA.
He has until week 10 (I think) to sign his tender to receive credit for this season. Then he will be a FA going into next season. He can sign before then, but after the trading deadline and totally screw the Chiefs. They would have to release him or someone. All the while following the CBA.
He believes $1.6M isn’t enough. Don’t know what he’s asking for, but I doubt he’s trying to shaft the team either. Who knows, really?
Someone let me know if any of that is wrong. Thanks.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely correct. But thes things are lost on prima donnas.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
it's not like the team couldn't cut him anyway
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
We won't have to do that. There are a lot of teams needing veteran safeties.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
Except ...
From what I’ve heard the past few weeks, he doesn’t want to go to the Lions. He wants to go to Houston to play with Pollard.
So, if it’s some place he doesn’t want to go, he doesn’t sign his tender and, if he doesn’t sign his tender, we can’t trade him anyway.
All Page has to do
is sign week 10. Chiefs can’t trade him (after the deadline), right? Thay can only sit him or cut him. Either way, he’s free to go where ever he wants next season.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Other than to be done with it?
I don’t think so. It’s lose, lose.
Hell, can he just sign after the trade deadline and draw a check till he’s released or the season ends? Even if he’s inactive every week, he’s still practicing and that would be better for his future job prospects than sitting out.
If that’s the case, he’s going to win this.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
But do you really think that he'd win by doing that?
What teams is going to give a guy who hasn’t played in almost two years and during his last playing time got demoted then hurt a good contract?
It seems like professional suicide to me…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
He'll get a contract (good or not)
and not be here. The team will have nothing to show for it.
I think we have to assume he’s working out and staying in football shape. You think Detroit wouldn’t pick him up after October 19th if he’s cut? If he’s not cut, he’ll be practicing/ working out till the end of the season.
This is the second time a player will have escaped with the team having absolutely nothing to show for it (unless you want to count “teaching a lesson”).
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose
But do you see him as bitter enough to risk losing a lot of money that he could’ve earned by playing and playing well?
If so, well, yeah, that’s the situation we’re in. Not much can be done about that… They can’t give in at this point. He was offered more $ than he was worth, and he chose to turn it down.
It seems out of Pioli’s hands at this point.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Only as bitter/stubborn as Pioli seems to be.
Not sure why you think he was offered more than he was worth. It was a slight raise over last year as I recall.
As of this morning, all indications are that he did not sign the tender and is not under contract.
We’re not sure exactly what the Chiefs have done but they were eligible to reduce it from his original tender level ($1.759 million) to 110% of his 2009 salary ($1.6995 million).
from Deadline For Chiefs S Jarrad Page Comes And Goes on AP
The guy was a 5th round pick that played in all 48 games in his first 3 seasons and played well last year until injured. A 10% increase for just one year isn’t really overpaying.
It’s just as much in Pioli’s hands as Page’s neither wants to blink it seems.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
He's a RFA, That's the way the game is, like it or not
and IMO, a $1.759 mil offer is pretty good for a guy that’s coming off a year in which he got demoted then hurt.
I see what you’re saying, but Page should be willing to accept that he’s coming off of an incredibly crappy year. Everyone needs to prove themselves, and he’s never done that for this regime.
Page just got paid about 1.7 million to get 19 tackles and play in 5 games. And he’s mad that he’s getting a RAISE after that?
I’m sorry, but Page did nothing last year that warrants a raise. Even a small one.
What’s Pioli supposed to do here? Tell the guy, “I know you’ve done nothing to show me that you’ll be a good teammate, but here’s a long term deal that you’ve sat down and pouted for”?
I know there’s 2 sides, but the Chiefs at have offered a contract. What’s Page done? He could’ve at least signed a waiver and participated in OTA’s to show his worth, right?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Aug 5, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's what Dumerville did, and he just ripped his boob in half
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Like I said before (or lower on the post, however you phrase it), Elvis showed up
And got 43 million in guaranteed money. They’re saying 4 months.
I think he’s still probably ok with his decision to play ball and get paid.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Point taken, BUT...
Coming between a man and his money is dangerous. Especially when one of the parties involved is a multi-million dollar corporation whom you support on a daily basis. I think that letting Page and the Chiefs work it out is the way to go. If he wears Red on Sunday’s, he’s the man. If he doesn’t well, power to him. Just think some of the rehotric is getting strong in regards to Page.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
I just realized I'm sounding a little testy, NJ
So my bad if I’m sounding harsh.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
He’s a RFA, That’s the way the game is, like it or not
I would say the same to those who are upset at him. The team isn’t limited to doing what they have so far. They are choosing to only do that. That may be what’s best for the team, but it may not.
he got demoted then hurt
Why was he demoted? Because he stunk or because Haley is psyco with the depth chart? I think a lot of GMs would look at who was riding the pine/released last season (DJ, Bowe, Charles, Pollard, Page) and draw the conclusion that it doesn’t mean they suck.
Page just got paid about 1.7 million to get 19 tackles and play in 5 games. And he’s mad that he’s getting a RAISE after that?
I would say he felt that what he had made so far wasn’t enough for the 198 tackles, 10 INTs and 4 FFs since he came to the Chiefs and he would like that corrected.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Aug 5, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
That's Pioli's "edge".
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
I was under the impression
that he would still be the chiefs “property” next year if he didn’t sign this year and he wouldn’t be free to sign with whomever he wants. Am I wrong in thinking that?
by Trapped in Donkeyland on Aug 5, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
depends on the terms of a newly arranged CBA
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!
by jakethesnake27 on Aug 5, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
except
if he indeed doesn’t want to go to detroit, they he puts himself in a spot where he may have to. I could be wrong, but:
If he signs week 10 then we cut him, he will go on the waiver wire. if they havent made any other claims that week, Detriot is #2 to pick him up for his “current contract”, you know, the one he doesn’t like. At that point, he will need to so he doesn’t lose his year towards FA.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!
by jakethesnake27 on Aug 5, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
My OFFER still stands...........
5th rounder and Cornbread & Kool-Aid for all.
DEAL….or NO DEAL ????
IowaLion61
Do you check over here regularly?
Or did your Page sense just start tingling?
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Red N Gold
I was in here when the Page ordeal 1st started in July. I check in here now and then just to see if Page is still available. Would love to have him but I think he is not any better than a 5th rounder. Other safties will be cut so if Delmas really is hurt, Page is not the last resource for Us ( Lions ). But since a safety takes several yrs to develop, I would rather have someone like Page that has had some success, rather than a newbie…. but his injury last season is a huge concern. I’m sure that’s what the Lion’s are contemplating now.
by Scotty Felton on Aug 5, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Safeties take several years to develop?
No offense, but that’s crazy talk.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Make no mistake, Eric Berry is developing.
He may be starting his NFL development at a higher level than most safeties, maybe even all of them, but he’s developing. He’ll be a lot better 3 years from now, than he’s going to be this year. But that’s what is going to make him exciting to watch this season.
"Now, now, my good man, this is no time for making enemies."
~Voltaire~ (On his death bed, when asked by a priest to renounce Satan)
I hope Page signs with Lions
and starts. And we can compare him to Lewis. I’m all for that.
"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"
Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.
This safety talk
make me wish we had Mike Brown back. Don’t know why we let that talent slip out the door…
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
Simple slip up of course. But then again...
Mike Brown is a pretty cool guy. eh can't tackle and doesn't afraid of anything
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010
by trentchiefsfan on Aug 5, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
You are right. What was I thinking?
We should probably just cut Berry and bring him back
President - Team Colquitt Fan Club - est. July 29, 2010
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
OMG
You had better be kidding. If not, you need to be a Bronco fan.
President - Team Colquitt Fan Club - est. July 29, 2010
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
@make me wish we had Mike Brown back. Don’t know why we let that talent slip out the door…@
Write it like that next time… only not in the title line. It’ll look like this:
make me wish we had Mike Brown back. Don’t know why we let that talent slip out the door…
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM CDT reply actions
Comeon now guys
I know how to use sarcasm font. I just thought it’d be unnecessary because of how wretched Brown was.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
And last year at this time all we were hearing
was how great he was, the “heart” of the Bears Superbowl defense, he still has it, and on and on and on
haha
I had to admit it, but I was definitely excited about him. Thaaaatttt didn’t last long though.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
I think we gave up on him too quickly... but clearly that's just me.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
With the depth at saftey
at the start of the offseason and with all this page drama, I was surprised that they didnt resign him. But after seeing them draft berry and Lewis it makes sense that they were going in a different direction.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
Yeah, I figured that was so obvious you didn't need the font.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
this seems like mere speculation.
I mean, Brian Waters hasn’t participated in anything other than the conditioning test. Someone with half a brain could make up the same kind of injury rumor. When something is officially released on an injury, I’ll believe it.
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
I will say one thing though
I love when stuff like this gets posted because everyone comes out of the woodworks. Page will never have anyone talk about him this much if he decides to leave Chiefs kingdom.
This is our year.
Bernard Pollard.
Yes he will.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
+1
President - Team Colquitt Fan Club - est. July 29, 2010
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 5, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
only if he puts up like Pollard
and honestly if he does go someone and blossom then we need to reevaluate ourselves because that would be 2 players we let slip and went on and shined.
This is our year.
Honestly
With a new head coach, new coordinators, new schemes, new GM, there are some players that are going to succeed better other places. The “other guys” have the luxury of picking WHO they want that fits their scheme, while Pioli is still trying to make guys he inherited fit into his.
Does it suck? Yeah. But it makes sense.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
that is why
eventually everything will fall into place for us when Pioli gets his guys in here and starting.
This is our year.
Yeah I mean
I understand we’re dyyying to watch a winning team again, but with all the change thats gone on since Pioli took over, I’m really surprised at where we are at. Predicting an over .500 season maybe a bit homerish for this year, but I’m expecting it for next….and I don’t think im being unrealistic.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
You are being unrealistic, Chiefs are going to win at least 8 games this year.
No homo(er)
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
by BigRedChief on Aug 5, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you mean no Romo?
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
I'm just trying to guard myself.
All the change and new players from people who obviously have a big picture plan had me SO excited for the start of last season.
And nothing is worse than expecting a .500 season or better and winning 4 games. Especially with how BAD some of the losses were.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
Pollard did go on to shine, and i'm happy for him
However, I still maintain that it is truly a matter of fit. We need safetys to cover more and support the box less. Pollard’s strength is support in the run game; look that those team leading tackles he put up here and his play in houston. He has done this well. He is a liability in coverage, as was noted by how often he was burned.
He was not traded because no one would give us anything. He was then cut and has gone on to succeed. I am happy for him and glad he is doing well.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!
by jakethesnake27 on Aug 5, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
And of course when I say we need them to cover and not support against the run
it’s not because I think our run defense is ok, we all know it’s not, but that’s what our defense demands by design.
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!
by jakethesnake27 on Aug 5, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish he played for another team
I really like the guy but can’t because hes a dirty donkey.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
With all these injuries.
It’s hard to not to see a chance for us to be in the running for division. The raiders had a good offseason, but better than ours? I see the donks as average at best and the chargers have been falling off for a while.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
My guess is that Page eventually gives in and signs the tender..... and becomes the starter opposite of Berry.
BOOM! I said it!
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
I was just getting ready to go there
A lot of people are writing him off because camp started, but I think he’ll wise up sooner or later. Especially if he’s doing any reading about Lewis and not getting contacted by other teams….
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
Alot of people are writting him off because they are taking his hold out as a personal attack against the team they love.
But if you step back and look at the grand scope of it all them the line become less blurred.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
It's business as usual.
Players will do what they can to try to maximize they’re paycheck.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
As they should
God knows I hold out for the extra .25 cents when working the truck stop bathroom…DAMN!!! I really have to stop typing out loud.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
which truck stop you working?
>_>
I’ve got lots of quarters.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
Gross.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
Yeah, you never know where those quarters have been.
VISA is safer
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Exactly what I was thinking.
LOL.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
where do i swipe?
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
That's mushin's department.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
You really really don't want to know
That whole plastic bag over the card trick, that was invented because of me
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Dumerville's injury is the crux of the whole Page argument
These guys feel like they aren’t making enough money, right or wrong, that’s how they see it. Dumerville decided to play ball with the team, and just accidentally fell on his sword. Think he Elvis wishes he were sitting on the couch next to Page playing Madden right now?
I can understand where Page is coming from on this one. This is the man’s livelihood here.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
touche
But you just can’t hit that juke stick the same way when you are missing half of your chest
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Unless you're Eric Berry!
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
yeah I feel bad for him
being a Donkey and all, he is a fine athlete and its a shame to see this happen to him.
This is our year.
Should Dumervil be upset right now?
Or the Broncos? He’s getting 43 million no matter what. So why should he wish he had held out?
Worst case scenario for him is that he never plays again. Even then he still gets his 43 mil, right?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I stand corrected. Dumervil did in fact sign in late July.
Nothing like arguing with bad information
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Haha no worries man
I do that way more often than I’d like to admit.
Now if he’d gotten hurt BEFORE getting a long term deal, that would’ve been bad news for him.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Elvis has left the building while thanking tha Lord
Hallelujah!!!
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
hmm, even if we take a 5 for him...its like getting lewis for free
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Keep Page!
How you forget Week 11- 2k6?!? Page’s gamebreakin INT to beat the Raiders? Dude always steps up his game against Oakland (he is from there). 4 career picks vs the Raiders?! Keep him on just as Raider Killer Extrodanaire.
WWMD? (What would Marty do?)
I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave
Mike Brown did the same last year do you wanna keep him too?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 5, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Page has made his whole career on fuckin up the Raiders
thats enough to keep him right there.
I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave
Yes, I think we should have kept him... but I am in the minority.
Not neccesarily as the starter but at least bring him to camp.
So you got the fax. So why didn't you add it to the resume? What do you mean? Of course martial arts training is relevant.
My Mom could pick off Jamarcus Russell
I don’t know that picking off the nfl’s worst QB is much of a feat
by Trapped in Donkeyland on Aug 5, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
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