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Figuring Out Where The Kansas City Chiefs Stand At Center

We're getting down to the wire in the Kansas City Chiefs preseason and only a handful of starting job remain open (or at least we think only a handful remain open). One of those jobs that has been boring and intriguing at the same time is center.

You've got the veteran, Casey Wiegmann, going against the younger incumbent, Rudy Niswanger.

This has been a strange position battle through training camp. Niswanger has taken the vast majority of first team snaps and has been listed as the first team center in every depth chart released by the team so far. An outside would assume that he's got the job locked up.

But then I think back to Chiefs GM Scott Pioli reminding us to remember why certain players are playing in certain situations.

"Sometimes when you look at people in certain situations," he said, "have an understanding of why it appears certain guys are at certain levels in the depth chart. Don't let yourself get fooled all the time."

The Chiefs have over a decade of tape on Wiegmann so they know what they have in him. Niswanger on the other hand is younger and has less experience and probably needs the experience of taking first team snaps.

Because of that dynamic, it's hard to get a gauge on which way the Chiefs are leaning in this particular battle.

This is seemingly one of the tightest battles though it's possible the Chiefs keep both on the roster. That's definitely an option but, keeping in mind how often the Chiefs tout versatility, I'm not sure that would be the most likely option.

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Call me crazy

But Cassel (and our offense in general) look better to me when Casey is in the game.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 30, 2010 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Definitely

I’ll be very surprised if Niswanger is the starter on opening day.

Predictions:
This year will be better

by jmcgoblue on Aug 30, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it would be wise to have Weigman start in the regular season...

Niswanger (because he’s still young) could have the chance to REALLY learn from a vetran like Casey, which Rudy has never really had the chance to do. Sure he’s had Waters, but to have a Center (who’s played at a high level since day 1)next to him, guiding him until he’s ready to retire.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Aug 30, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But I have some mixed feelings on it. You have to play the one that gives you a better chance to win, and I like Weigman for that reason.

by Supersport on Aug 30, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're crazy

But, I agree.

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Aug 30, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks :)

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 30, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we could transplant Cassel's brain into Manning's body we'd still have a QB who ...

oh, wait … never mind

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Aug 30, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've always been in favor of a procedure

That could put Manning’s brain in Michael Vick’s body.

That man (or whatever you’d call him) would throw for 70 TD’s and run for another 20.

Where’s all this technology that was supposed to be around by now? Remember all the books and movies that said we’d have hoverboards and bionic servants?

Where’s my Manning/Vick hybrid?

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 30, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

has anyone heard or read...

could the broncos possibly cut Olsen? anyone know how he’s been playing?

by bansky on Aug 30, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Why not play the younger center during the preseason to get him more experience and let the Veteran Center

stand back, teach and watch? Then you have a more viable backup at that position if your veteran center gets hurt during the regular season.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Aug 30, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Explain to me how

keeping Niswanger would limit our versatility? He could step into a Wade Smith role where he’s listed as 2nd team C & LG. An interior lineman who could play all 3 positions, exactly how is that not versatile?

D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man

by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 30, 2010 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

That's another way of looking at it

Didn’t think of that….what I meant was keeping both centers wasn’t in-line with the Chiefs talk about versatility because they have a couple of guys who can backup the center. But, thinking about it, your point makes sense, too.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 30, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aside from Asomoah

Would do the Chiefs have (that has a literal shot of making final 53) on the O-line that could play backup center?

D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man

by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 30, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Joel

Didn’t they play Niswanger at Guard the other day in practice?

by Ryan in Nixa on Aug 30, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not Joel

But yes they did.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Aug 30, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think after what happened on the Oline last offseason we wont see any drastic changes.

Maybe shuffling of the guys we have but last year more then proved that a bunch of average guys with chemistry is better then a bunch of new “better” guys who dont have any.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Aug 30, 2010 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

That makes sense

if you would be replacing all good guys with new guys,
but in our case we’d be replacing some crappy ones with new ones,
Id rather have good O-Line players who can build chemistry as they go along since they can coast some on talent,
then have a bunch of scrubs who can read each other but barely create a pocket like we do now.

by ThomasJ1776 on Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The topic of versatility

regarding the O-line really boils down to this question: are the Chiefs going to have less than 10 lineman on their final roster?

D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man

by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 30, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

And the even bigger question of...

Can 5 of them get the job done on a consistant basis?

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Aug 30, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sure hope so....

Albert- Richardson
Waters- Asamoah
Weigman- Niswanger (hopefully in THAT order)
Lilja- Ndukwe
O’Cal- Brown

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Aug 30, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's how it'll be

but, they could cut Ndukwe, and go with 9 OL, knowing that Asamoah and Niswanger can play either G position

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 30, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The biggest of them all.

What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Aug 30, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Since we're on the topic of center

I know he won’t make the final 53, but I think Lemuel Jeanpierre’s looked pretty good this preseason. Maybe with a year on the practice squad he can be ready to push for a spot next year.

by bh13 on Aug 30, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah?

I haven’t seen or noticed him much

But, it’d be nice to keep developing OL depth and future talent!

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 30, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Admittedly I haven't watched him every play so I could be missing things

I also don’t know a lot about evaluating players so I’m just going off what I think looks good, but he looked pretty good to my untrained eye. I know I saw him make a couple nice blocks against Philly. It’d be nice if he could be like Harris (minus the injury, I had hopes for him this year) and develop on the PS this year, then get an extended look next season.

by bh13 on Aug 30, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

C Position Battle

I heard Tim Grunhard on the radio last week and he predicted that Wiegmann would most definitely be the starter on opening night. Due to his ability to call blocking assignments, be the leader on the field and pull the line together as a cohesive unit, he would get the nod despite not blowing people off the ball

by Styck on Aug 31, 2010 12:57 AM CDT reply actions  

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