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Kansas City Chiefs Still Unsettled Late In Preseason

We're three games into the preseason and we're still having a hard time figuring out the Chiefs identity. And something tells me this isn't part of some master plan to cover up the insider's view of the Chiefs until the regular season.

After what most experts and NFL writers described as a stellar offseason by the Chiefs, it seemed that the offensive side of the ball was going to be the most promising. The two-headed combination of Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles instantly became one of the most talented backfields in football. The drafting of Dexter McCluster gave the Chiefs a versatile open-field weapon that opposing defensive coordinators would have to specifically plan for. A full year of Chris Chambers could only help Matt Cassel develop his favorite targets and there's always the hope for Dwayne Bowe to clear his head and take on the mantle of No. 1 receiver.

Not only this, but it was the added offensive mind of Charlie Weis to go with the comfort and experience for Todd Haley that comes from not being a rookie coach. In his second year, the offensive mind behind the Arizona Cardinals Super Bowl run was expected to feel more at home and, consequently, execute better in this upcoming season.

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Yet here we are praising the defense after the latest Chiefs-Eagles contest and crying foul over the lackluster offense. It's the turnovers and the inability to do anything on third downs, and it's the defense that kept it close. Note that it's the exact opposite of not only what is expected from of earlier preseason contests where the defense remained suspect. It's hard to tell what is promising and what still needs work. And I'm not sure this is what Haley & Co. wanted at this stage.

The buzz of the offseason gets loud for each and every team as every single draft pick and free agent signed becomes the answer to the problems of the previous year. At this stage, it seems like the Chiefs are still sorting a lot more things out than they would like to be.

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Get some Glenn

Those were the good ole days... wait I wasn't alive then

by bww51689 on Aug 28, 2010 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Certainly NOT Blackledge

One of the biggest busts ever, and set this franchise back for years.

by dablueguy on Aug 28, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least Cassel can throw a screen pass

Unlike Blackledge. You’re forgetting just how horrible he was.

The other guys were Pro Bowlers and/or Hall of Famers, so of course you’d trade for them.

by Tarkus on Aug 29, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Several reasons for this ineffectiveness

The offensive line continues to be in turmoil due to injuries and new people shifting in and out. There is no cohesion, and frankly, the talent is not that great overall. Once the line comes together, you will see the offense be more effective. The other part is Cassel. He just does not have good pocket presence (takes off and runs too quickly) and it may be that he doesn’t trust his line (who can really blame him?). As with any new offensive system, it does take a while for players to come together and act rather than think about it. The offense will be better further into the season.

by MGDog on Aug 28, 2010 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

taking off and running doesnt quite describe it

For Cassel i think its more of a decision making thing. When he decided to run last game it was actually too late for it because the defender was on top of him. There are times when he should run and he doesnt. I dont remember when but there was a 3rd and 3 where he could have easily picked up the first down running but instead he tried to force a throw. Personally i’d like to see cassel run more. He’s shown the abilty to do it in the past

by Mayday07 on Aug 29, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry but

Cassel is not the answer. I’ve been really hopeful but dude looks horrible. We have too many weapons to not be moving the ball.

Shout out to section 339

by raiderhater77 on Aug 28, 2010 4:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm a season ticket holder section 339!

Somebody please find my college teams a home :(

by Chieffan_Toby on Aug 28, 2010 5:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not far rom you guys

Section 331!

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by Scaryclouds on Aug 28, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bowe Charles jones mccluster chambers pope

There’s no excuse for not moving the ball

by raiderhater77 on Aug 28, 2010 4:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

lol

DEX @ QB with Jones & Charles on his side’s WildCat… I think Cassel will be way better once Charlie & Todd Open’s the play-book & stop playing around…this is pre-season they want to show everything to the chargers lol…

by KCCHIEFS4EVA on Aug 28, 2010 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

What's Unsettled??

We are a run 1st—runs outside can be explosive—offense.
On defense—the 2-5-4 should be the #1 defense that we put on the field on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd downs.
As far as the right 53—there really should not be many questions about the top 48. It’s not rocket science unless you just want to try to out smart yourself. These are the guys where Haley and Chiefs coaching staff need to be focusing their energy on from today until the start of the season.

by NFL season ticket holder on Aug 28, 2010 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Chiefs

well it seems that cassel is the type of QB that needs more time to check of his
opposition our running game is going to be great our defense has the chance
to be the best in league there fast but the over play a lot there inability to get to
the QB (even if they are hurrying him puts way to much pressure on the DB’s
but this is all evident i know but if we can just not over play so much on d
they will get better so will the o line once the starting line gets to play together
more RED

MDJ58

by MDJ on Aug 28, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

That was one really long sentance! ha. I think I caught what you were saying though.

Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!

by fleetmarine on Aug 28, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Chiefs defense is showing a lot

of signs that they are “getting it”. Plainly put, Philadelphia has a pretty potent offense which threw the kitchen sink at the Chiefs defense last night and the “D” rose to the occasion. Studebaker and company played some pretty fair defense. Not perfect, but pretty good.

The offense is showing some signs of life. Not exactly where you want to be at this point, but still not totally sucking. The offense needs to be scoring some points.
They also need to be converting those third downs. This is where the team needs work.

"The Hammer"

by G.L. on Aug 28, 2010 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I saw a game (still re-watching) where Chiefs were rotating a lot of guys in early.

Magee was in there at LDE in the 1st quarter, for Pete’s sake.

More than their opponents, so far, the Chiefs appear to be trying to raise up and evaluate the guys farther down the depth chart. They’re still looking for combos that will work, and this might mean rotating Shaun Smith in with Wallace Gilberry as a duo, when/if Jackson is out on 1st/2nd down.

They appear to be looking at stuff like that. It’s not like they NEEDED Barry Richardson at left tackle. Nevertheless, he got some looks against the Philly #1s.

One false read we may be getting on D is from the poor OL play of Philly. Vick might be starting sooner, rather than later, because Kolb can’t outrun all the LBs that are likely to be coming free on the blitz against this OL.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 28, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I found it strange...

That Vick didn’t really get any looks at just being a QB and not a gimmick. Unless that was some part of master plan by the Eagles, I’m guessing he’s not real happy right about now.

by Tarkus on Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't judge too much, just yet. It's all about MNF and what happens against San Diego, imo.

Sure, they’ll continue developing after that, but MNF will be the first time we really see the Chiefs trying to bring it for 4 quarters. I’m not saying their depth players weren’t trying in preseason, but I expect they’ll add them to the mix much more judiciously. For all I know, what we’ve seen so far are just injury scenarios, to see what they can/can’t do if the worst happens.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 28, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

If you want to call that "unsettled," that's fine. Compared to a lot of teams, they probably ARE.

They still have some starters they’re not overjoyed about, with players they’re hopeful about getting some reps.

As for the Cassel-to-Bowe or Cassel-to-Chambers issues, it looked to me that they’re executing quite well, with Bowe looking like a real BEAST. But I don’t think they want to draw much attention. Just make a few catches to see what they have, and then go back to work on the RB game, with a fairly large committee of ’backs, seeing what they can do on the ground and working out the details of yards after catch after the dump-offs and swing passes.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 28, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I want to see more no huddle.

Seems like when they were going no huddle it was clicking for the most part. I know we won’t see it a lot til the regular season but still. I think these guys are under a lot of pressure to perform and seem nervous. At least the O does during their first couple of drives.

by zyker on Aug 28, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Rather us not have an identity

Makes it easier for Defense to key in on it, and take us out of the game.

by ChiefWarPaint on Aug 28, 2010 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

we have an identity: the underdogs

We have the lowest player payroll of any team in the NFL. Our highest paid players are draft choices who have yet to prove themselves in the NFL. So in tight games against winning ball clubs, our identity is that of the underdog, the dark horse.

It it difficult to imagine that high-salaried teams hate playing us? What I mean is who wants to lose to an overachieving, underpaid group of nobodies?

We’re the Chiefs. We virtually ignore marquee players in free agency and make do with what we have, and we hope that it’s enough to get use to the playoffs.

by Pilcrow on Aug 28, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I don’t think most people, especially opposing teams, care about our payroll near as much as you seem to.

A rebuilding team SHOULD have a low payroll. You start paying when you get good.

by Tarkus on Aug 29, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

they still arent gameplanning FOR their opponent...I really am not worried...however

matt cassel scares me, and it scares me even more that I am one of the few who have stood behind him….its getting hard because with a guy like Trent, he had a bad year but didnt come back looking the SAME…

im hoping the offense opens up with cassel in full time, I just dont see any plays that give cassel a shot down field quite yet…has to be by design

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 29, 2010 12:05 AM CDT reply actions  

who cares. this is as meaningless as doing mock drafts. Or grading draft classes before they step on the field.

Matt, we’ll find out in two weeks whether it was by design or just utter chaos.

I’m guessing that the truth is somewhere in between. From everything I’ve seen, it just appears that the Chiefs are just trying to find out what they can and can’t do.

Still, I don’t think it is unreasonable to think that the same coach & gm pairing that makes employees close their curtains during practice, doesn’t let anyone talk to the media, and has “indoor walk throughs” would be trying to hide their identity/strengths a bit. The less pre-season game film we give the Chargers, the better.

" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President

by chief Stevie_k on Aug 29, 2010 7:02 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

good point.

A little stealth in the preseason is exactly what the Chiefs doctor ordered. We are underdogs, unproven, immature, inexperienced and whatever other derogatory adjective you want to throw in there. Our QB has a little too much Forrest Gump in his actions and demeanor. We have new coordinators on both sides of the ball who are still implementing schemes and evaluating players. Of course we are going to look a little ragged in our preseason games. So what? The only thing that matters is the team that takes the field on MNF. Until then, there is nothing to worry about. Relax and get to know our new guys.

by midcalchief on Aug 29, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for comparing Cassel to Forrest Gump

" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President

by chief Stevie_k on Aug 29, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

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