Chiefs vs. Eagles Preseason: Offensive Preview
On the offensive side of the ball, the Kansas City Chiefs still have some work to do. The statistical increase from preseason week one to week two indicates that the offense has indeed made progress but the offensive touchdown numbers clearly indicate they're not where they want to be yet.
As always, the most important factor for the Chiefs offense will be the Matt Cassel. Like last week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (14-of-19), he needs to complete a high percentage of his passes. This is the first step in becoming an offense that can score. The Eagles defense will offer up an excellent test for Cassel and the offense considering their first team has allowed just one score through two preseason games. They're one of the better blitzing defenses in the NFL so that should provide Cassel with some early looks at a tough defense (even if it is preseason and there won't be much blitzing).
At running back we're once again hitting the Thomas Jones vs. Jamaal Charles talk. I've already explained that I think that story line is a little over-hyped but still important I suppose. Last week, Jones had eight carries and Charles had five. Jones only had two in the first week so he was probably getting a little extra work there. Also, Charles is coming off of shoulder surgery so I think during these preseason games he's being cautious.
The receivers need to work well with Cassel against the Eagles. When they blitz, part of the responsibility will be on the receivers to recognize that and get open faster. Ideally, Dexter Mccluster helps with this since he's the quickest player on the team. I wouldn't worry much about Dwayne Bowe and Chris Chambers at this point. They both showed last week they're capable of handling the load but we do need to see some consistency out of Bowe.
At tight end, we're finally waiting for the debut of Tony Moeaki. That hasn't quite come yet so we've been seeing Leonard Pope as the primary pass catcher at tight end. He's a solid option for less than ten yards and Moeaki can, in theory, be a deeper threat so getting him involved is key.
Along the offensive line, there are a few questions marks that remain. There's the Rudy Niswanger vs. Casey Wiegmann battle as well as the question mark surrounding Ryan O'Callaghan and his injury last week. If O'Callaghan doesn't play, look for the rotation to start with Barry Richardson. That's not exactly screaming confidence in Colin Brown, who has lined up on second team right tackle at times during training camp.
Bottomline with the Chiefs offense, they need to score points. That may be the most "No s--t Sherlock" statement of the year but it's the simple things the Chiefs have struggled with lately. It's not all about making first downs and moving the ball as their progress. It needs to be getting points on the board.
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Moeaki's name on this site
is starting to reach Cassel status with seemingly so much written about someone who has produced so little.
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Third round pick that hasn't seen the field
Frustrating considering he might have been able to overtake Leonard Pope at TE.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 27, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
How is this pick different last years?
Pioli used a 3rd rounder on depth, not a starter.
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
True
But I think Moeaki has a chance to be a starter — from the get-go, Magee never really had a chance to be a starter. I think that’s why Moeaki is disappointing.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 27, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Nobody knew about this kid
outside of Hawkeye fans before the draft. He’s been sold to us by Chiefs scouts & media. As of yet we don’t even know if he can stay healthy enough to play in the NFL. Especially given Pioli’s use of last years 3rd rounder, it’s a little too early to consider Moaeki legit.
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Which now raises the question
Exactly WHO do you work for?
D.J. #56 - Pay The Man & Play The Man
by KansasCityShuffle on Aug 27, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really, no.
Joel was at most of the practices at training camp. He got to see Moeaki first hand.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Yeah We could have got as much use out of
Danarrio Alexander as Moeaki has shown so far
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Chiefs' scouts and media didn't sell me on him,
watching him in practice did. I am 99% certain he is an impact player (as long as he is on the field). I saw him outrun Donald Washington (a CB converted to safety so Washington is supposed to be fast). I don’t mean he beat his angle. He flat outran him! Then, he made a fingertip, over-the-shoulder catch for what would have been a 50+ yard score. I’m with Joel, I’m frustrated he seems to always be dinged. But, if he ever does get out there, look out. By the way, I work for a company that manufactures rubber tracks, not the Chief’s or any other media.
Well Maybe
we need a Bubble boy area for Moeaki and Croyle to live in between games.
You know that old sign.
Break in case offireChiefs game
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I wanna see JMac take one to da house
… seeing as how the game doesn’t count anyway
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Well just be Patient Grasshopper :)
Wonder how the CB’s will man up on the Philly WR’s?
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, can Carr keep up with Maclin?
wouldn’t bet money on it
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Me either .
I foresee a long night for Carr, and if we can’t get to the QB a long night for our secondary in general.
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
You made me think of
Berry in a helicopter dropping cash (Lord knows he has it to Drop) That would be an interesting Fan Appreciation effort right cher if youd ask me
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Just to add to the discussion...
This years draft class was way more talented than last years draft class. While Moeaki was drafted in the 3rd round… he would have been considered a late 2nd rounder in other drafts.
Remember Jamal Charles was a 3rd rounder… and it took him a couple years to come into his own. I think that we should probably expect a similar turnout for Moeaki and Magee.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I wouldn't hold your breath on Magee
Jury is definitely still out on Moeaki though- I would like to see him catch at least one pass in a game before I either send him to the hall or to the streets.
"They should expect everything..." -Eric Berry
I'm not holding my breathe on Magee...
as I know that he was drafted for depth.
I expect Moeaki to not get many receptions this season… or any TD’s for that matter. He really needs to get into the gym and get his body solid.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Agree about McGee for sure...as for Moeaki, I think we'll be seeing a lot of him
during the regular the season, and there’s a chance he could be a starter by game 6 or so.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Were you expecting Peyton last year or something?
Sacked 42 times(I’ll put some of that on him but thats alot of the O-line), LJ fiasco, WR/OL musical chairs, D-Bowe missing 4 games, didn’t get a next “best” weapon till halfway down the season w Chambers, didn’t realize JCs full capability till what into week 6-7? Don’t see how anyone we drafted instead of the trade would have been more productive.
Cassel got sacked more in NE, would you put that on their pro bowl line? nope.
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
by chief Stevie_k on Aug 27, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much spot on
the most important factor for the Chiefs offense will be the Matt Cassel.
Is that anything like THE Iraq?
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Aug 27, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
To explain:
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Aug 27, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Cassel is the #1 thing I will be watching tonight.
As much as any of the other position battles matter, or how the dline is progressing or if the rookies are getting acclimated, etc, hands down Cassel is the most important piece. If Cassel can be good, this team can be good. If Cassel sucks… well we’ve seen it happen, and its not pretty.
I am hoping for him to stretch the field a little bit this game. Right now he has thrown for 150 yards on 20 completions… that is not a mind blowing average by any means. And his longest pass play of the preseason was for 17 yards, and I am pretty sure that was on a McCluster scamper. So yeah, I am looking to see more than just keeping his completion percentage up, I want to see him move the damn ball in chunks.
"They should expect everything..." -Eric Berry
I'm hoping we can win the field position battle for a change, so we he doesn't have
to stretch the field.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Brandon Graham is starting tonight for Philly. Kid is beastly
Whoever is starting at RT is going to have one hell of a time. Graham started one play in the 3rd quarter. He hit Barnard Scott so hard that they pulled him out and promoted him to 1st team.
Trent Cole and Graham are going to make things interesting for Cassel.
This is going to be as much a test for Weiss as it will be for the players. Can he scheme enough to keep Cassel out of the ambulance? Here’s to hoping.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
That's some crazy ass Jackie Chan shit going on in that pic...
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The secondary is the #1 thing for me...
We’re expecting a strong secondary, right?
Well let’s see it against a strong WR group, and a pretty decent QB… if the Chiefs DBs can harass Kolb, Maclin, Jackson, Celek and Baskett, then I’ll be encouraged with this secondary we’ve been bragging about.
- is Cassel and the offense. This is an Eagles defense that practically lived in our back field last year. It’ll be nice to see us be able to run on them and give Cassel enough time to complete a few passes. I’d also like to see some more of McCluster… I get the feeling the Chiefs are really trying to keep him under wraps. Let’s see some of that quickness for a little more than 3 or 4 plays, please. Also, no injuries… please.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, Joel...
That’s the second time today that a # followed by a number has turned into a bullet point… what’s going on?
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Test: things I want to see from the Chiefs:
- Secondary. Limiting the big plays
- Offense. Opening it up a little, pass protection.
- Defensive front 7 creating pressure/sacks
Yep… we can now create bullet points by starting with #(followed by a number)
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
How about you add to the list
- A pass from Cassel that is over 10 yards down the field
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
You may be able to creat a bulle with a #, but you can't set the number
pound 4 turned into 1.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Yeah...
It’s an auto format.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah helping the commenters clean up our comments :)
RGB would you consider this game vs the Eagles a similar type team to the Chargers? Decent QB with a quick release, a defense that is iffy up the middle.
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Rivers is more than decent, though
I’d consider him a top 5 QB.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Well Yeah
But we don’t say that on AP :)
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
haha good point
i am ashamed
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Mr Jackson meet Mr Berry
Now go see a trainer about that ringing in your ears
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
by mushin on Aug 27, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to see Berry use some of his baiting against Kolb...
By all accounts Kolb looks pretty decent, but is bound to make mistakes when it comes to throwing against a super athletic safety…
I’m going to predict a t least one INT from Berry… that’s be cool. Let’s see how he feeds off his home crowd.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
This whole game will come down to the front 7 of KC
If they let Kolb get comfortable he is going to tear the D apart. Berry or no Berry. Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey, Ronnie Lott and Eric Berry wouldn’t be able to contain these WR if the Philly QB gets to sample some Gates BBQ as he calmly picks which speed demon to toss the ball to.
Int’s take pressure.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Whoops...
Sorry, didn’t mean to hijack this thread… didn’t see the Defensive preview below this one on the front page.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
As for the secondary, they better be jamming Maclin & Jackson at the line
Or it’s going to be a long night at the track meet.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
i just hope we stay healthy
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Aug 27, 2010 3:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Totally agree, no injuries please.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 27, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
yea, and if fish could talk like humans and beg for their lives.....
I probably wouldn’t konk them in the head, gut ‘em and toss them in a pan of boiling grease. But they can’t.
Injuries are gonna happen. It would be nice if we could prevent them before opening day, but we can’t.
Mark my words, we’ll lose a couple of starters before MNF….it’s the nature of the beast.
Or should I say…fish.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Well SOB!
Looks like I can’t watch the game tonight as I am a dish network customer with Topeka locals and local WIBW is only broadcasting the game on their MYTV channel – available only on COX cable and with an antenna. Guess I’ll have to wait for the repay on NFL channel. Damn locals!
Do you guys realize this is the FIRST NFL game played in the renovated stadium?
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
Let's christen it with a performance similar to the offense of the early 2000s and a defense of the early 90s!!!
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 27, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
the game thread has the link when Joel and or Chris puts it up
or google kcfx in the KC area
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
An opportunity for Richardson maybe?
This is a good Eagles front seven so if Richardson puts in a great game he me may be doing himself a big favor.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Yeah that scares me a bit
Hopefully they continue the trend from last week and give the RT some TE help. It helped O-Cally and I have no doubt that Barry will need it too, especially with what people are saying about Graham. The last thing we need is to open the season with Cassel sidelined again.
by TheScootness on Aug 27, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Problem with Ocal is he has a really hard time with the speed rush
I think Richardson, from what I’ve seen, plays the speed rush alot better but may not be as strong a run blocker.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Aug 27, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
that is an interesting thought
scheming RT based on the gameplan.
Some people can dance better than others
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
this could be djs last chance to show case his talent
i dont think haley thinks to well of him after last week and if he cant do the job every down then i say trade his ass while we can.

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