The Eagles O-line as a measure for the KC front 7
I have the misfortune of living in Eagles country. It's what happens when you marry a Philly chick. Watching the Chiefs in preseason means staying up till 3AM to catch the rerun on NFL network. While I wait for my DVR to kick in, I've managed to watch both of the Eagles preseason games. And color me impressed.
The Eagles have explosive play makers all over the field. Jackson, Maclin, Kolb, Celek, Weaver and McCoy give Andy Reid one hell of a toolbox to run his pass happy scheme. If this team stays healthy, they are going to start putting up points Green Bay/New Orleans style.
Actually, let me correct that statement. The Eagles offense will be one of the most dominant in the NFL if they can stay healthy and fix their offensive line woes.
Continued after the jump
The Philly offense has struggled to put up points. And I do emphasize points. They've had no problem putting up yards. Their pass catchers have been streaking between the 20's all preseason. What they haven't been able to do is put the ball in the endzone.
And you can lay that all at the feet of the offensive line.They haven't been able to run the ball, nor protect the QB. And the penalties that they are wracking up as a unit would make the Raiders wince, including an illegal formation penalty caused by the guard and tackle lining up off the ball that nullified a TD during the Cincy game.
The Eagles offensive line was manhandled last weekend by the Bengals. They gave up 3 sacks and 4 tackles for a loss. At least two of the 4 interceptions from the Eagles backup QB's came as a direct result of QB pressure. The only positive the Eagles can take away from the game is that they don't track QB pressures and hurry up stats in the preseason.
As for the run game, McCoy ran for 20 yards on 6 carries. Not bad. 3.3 yard average is respectable for pre-season, until you notice that one of those runs came on a broken coverage that went for 17 yards. Take that run away and McCoy managed 3 yards on 5 carries in one half of football.
To be fair, the Eagles O-line has been missing two starters for the first two games of the preseason, C Jamaal Jackson and LG Todd Herremans. The Eagles are actually on their 3rd center. The backup center Nick Cole is also out with a swollen knee. It's certainly showed. The Bengals path to the QB was right through the center of the line.
Starting G Herremans is expected to return to the lineup tonight, but Philly is still relying on their 3rd option at center, Mike McGlynn.
And the Eagles can't lay all the blame on the backups. This kind of performance requires the entire unit work together as a crappy whole. The play of the 3 starters has been inconsistent. They actually look a lot like the KC line last season, with Stacey Andrews doing his best Mike Goff impersonation. Jason Peters and Winston Justice have been erratic and are a sore topic on the local talk radio stations.
All of this SHOULD be music to the KC Defense's ears.
The Chiefs will have an opportunity tonight to take advantage of an offensive line in flux. Romeo Crennel and co will have their best opportunity this preseason to show the "internal development" that the brass has been trying to sell to the fan base all off season .
With a team as explosive as Philadelphia, it won't take a cybermetric breakdown of stats to determine if the front 7 made Kolb uncomfortable. The first half scoreboard will tell us everything we need to know about what the KC pass rush will be in 2010.
If the Eagles start lighting up the scoreboard like a pinball machine it'll be time to start putting the supplies in the bunker. Make sure you put enough BBQ and beer in the cellar to help you last through another long defensive season.
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If she is a south philly chick my heart goes out to you, they're a handful
I agree with everything you said and i think conversely they’re front 7 will be a big measuring stick for our o-line
Agree, Brandon Graham is going to be a handful tonight
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
It will be fun to watch little Eric Berry, hit that mammoth guy really hard.
Now that will be a sight to behold.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Isn't he like 6'8 and 280?
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
6'2" DE, and at about 280
Though he’s bulked up lately and Philly is sandbagging his weight
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
yea I looked him up...I was thinking about the TE Graham....but I forgot what
team he went to. My bad.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
No that's Gresham.....I'm getting too old for this.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
There was a TE that Chucky was talking about at the last training camp
he attended…where he said, how huge the guy is, and that he can run like an antelope, or something along those lines. and I can’t remember the team he was visiting or the guys name……who the hell is THAT guy?
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
IF (and thats a big IF) we get stellar NT performances tonight
it is good to know that its against a 3rd string C. The last thing I needed was something else to inflate the expectations for this season.
On the same note, if our NT cannot perform against the 3rd string C…well…(insert doom and gloom here)
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
by chiefsandcigars on Aug 27, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions
My point exactly.
Here’s to hoping for 1 sack and 3 QB hurries from the NT tonight. Anything else probably spells disaster
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Yeah what will our defense do, when they can push the pocket :P
From what I’ve seen in pre-season we could be a pretty good defense if we had 1 NT that could push the pocket. We’re in for a long night, if we can get to the QB. Oh man i just remember they still had Vick, grrrrrrrr. I hate that piece of shit, wanna be QB, now we have to watch people chase him around all night. E.Berry please blast his punk ass.
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Do it for the dogs Berry...for the dogs...
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Remember Michael Vick's last visit to Arrowhead?
2004, vs. Atlanta, 7/21 passing, 119 yds. 2 INTs. Arrowhead mystique was in full effect that day.
However, we need to make Kolb’s first visit to Arrowhead be just as nightmarish (is that a word? I don’t know, but it sounds “nasty” :-)
If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott
One thing to watch for:
Arenas getting more time on the field with Leggett down and how it effects his KR/PR’s.
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I think he's going to be fine
He spent his college career as a starting DB on a national championship team that happened to return kicks. And he’s not a small speed merchant like Hall. I don’t believe he’ll be as explosive as Hall but I think he’ll stick around a hell of a lot longer
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
Yeah. Hall had unbelievable change-of-direction and explosion.
But Arenas is just damn hard to bring down, caroming off hits like a pinball. He gets great change of direction by just keeping his feet when he bounces off defenders. Hall would tend to go down from an errant breeze, but it was just hard as hell to get a finger on him. You get a SHOULDER into Arenas and he’s just getting started.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
Well, there's a picture that depicts DJ as someone who is in on the tackle.
Unless he was just late to the play and tripped over The Stork.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
can we just see a little NASTINESS from them please?
I want to see our front 7 get all fired up at home and of course once again NASTY!
The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.
I want to see the same out of our O line, and Matt of course.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
omg, that's almost as nasty as Steve!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I didn;t do that
Not enought talent
Natty would have been what it said
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Very nice post
Thanks for the information on the Eagles. McGlynn was supposed to be a good Center/Guard prospect so maybe in a few years he will be the guy. Bill Maas was talking on local radio about the sheer size of the Eagles O-line, apparently not a finesse line :(
Ninja Ass
They may be big, but their dumb
The penalties these guys have been racking up are ridiculous
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
That's what the Chiefs need, the most massive O-line we can build.
I would prefer to see every single body on the line be 6’5 or taller and 320 or more.
If you’re going to build an impregnable wall, use the biggest bricks you can find.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Trying to manhandle 5 guys at 320 plus pounds for a whole game...wears down opposing
lines. Fatigued arms translate to big runs.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Instead of the other way around...
like us. I guess our plan is to get them out in space and make them run ( the D line) to wear them down. I’d rather go with the hogs, but if JC stays healthy it might not matter.
Maybe the league has reached its limit in terms of bigger meaning better.
And just being big isn’t enough, anymore. I’ll be watching Mt.Cody pretty closely this and next year. He might just be over-the-top in a bad way.
That being said, I think any throwing Cassel gets done behind Lilja and Wiegmann is going to be on the move, although Cassel’s looking more and more like an either/or proposition. Either on the move or standing and passing, but not throwing the ball much past 10 yards on the move (which he’ll have to do, in order for the double moves to develop). The current O-Line can give Cassel places to go and buy time with movement, but there’ll be little standing-in-and-throwing-downfield, imo.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
Thanks mushin. Good write up and it's nice having a little insider info on the Eagles.
I would be nice to see a W in that column. That I think would help the players confidence out a bit.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
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Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Aug 27, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
What a creepy movie
the ballons and the Clown. Yeeeeesh
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
we ALL float down here!
muahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
POP!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I knew watching the Eagles would pay off one day :)
And here I thought it would be because of setting lines for my book making operation
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
books, oh I love a good book!
thought about writing a book, but … well, don’t bet on it
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
well played sir
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
my concern is a lot of us are going to think we're all ruff n tuff n stuff if we give up yards but not many points ...
… when in fact we’d really be more like H R Puff N Stuff than anything else …
we mightg get some pressure from the Front 7 but my guess is that if we do, Kold is gonna burn us again and again in the medium range … and if we try to cheat “in” with the Secondary we’re gonna get burned deep
coupla hours, we shall see
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I just want to see disruption by the D-line
Everybody keeps talking about the baby steps that the O is taking, this is the game where we should see the D take a couple of large steps.
Training camp is starting? Time to rack up enough brownie points with the wife to last the whole season. Roses: check. Cavasia: check. Gimp Ball: check.
So to the point
Our front seven will have less of a struggle to get pressure, yet our DB’s are going to have their hands full.
The Special teams might give us great field position on the returns.
Our Offensive line is going to be severly tested, but the Chiefs have an opportunity straight up the proverbial GUT with runs and TE’s over the middle.
Does that sound right?
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 27, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I'm coming to this thread late, but I'm glad somebody really nailed the issues with Philly's O-Line before the game.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

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