Not Many Position Battles Remain On The Kansas City Chiefs Offense
by Joel Thorman on Aug 26, 2010 5:31 PM CDT
in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Preseason
Email
PrintI just got done going through all the Kansas City Chiefs offensive starters. I was trying to figure out which positions are still up for grabs and which ones are not.
I realized we know nearly all of the Chiefs offensive starters.
Offensive line: Center is the only position that that doesn't have a definitive starter yet. All the other positions are locked and with the exception of Ryan Lilja, are the same as last year.
Receiver: There's no question this will be Dwayne Bowe and Chris Chambers.
Tight end: It's not quite a lock but Leonard Pope should open the season as the starter.
Fullback: Mike Cox or Tim Castille. We're not really sure who's ahead of who there.
Running back: Thomas Jones or Jamaal Charles or splitting carries.
Quarterback: Matt Cassel without question is the starter.
On Friday, we'll have the chance to really evaluate the positions that are still up for grabs: Center and fullback. The other positions aren't much of a battle. The Eagles always have interesting defensive schemes so it'll be a good test for both position battles.
33 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Mike Cox for the win!
And not just for the win due to the funny factor. I really think Cox is a better FB. He has shown an ability to catch out of the backfield (though admittedly not as versitile as Castille), but I just feel like he is an all around better lead blocker.
...And as the roar of 80,000 red-clad great plains warriors fills the hallowed halls of Arrowhead, it will strike fear into the hearts of lesser men. For on that field, individual men toil for something greater than individual honors. They toil as brothers-in-arms, as 53 spirits striving towards a single purpose and driven by a single goal: The glory that comes with vanquishing your foes. They will achieve their birthright, they will be champions.
I would say there's only one position battle
Casey vs Rudy.
Cox/Castille will probably both make the roster, and be used like they were last year.
Pope/Moeaki and Jones/Charles are complementary players
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
Makes me think of talk yesterday about how deep KC isn't.
And you look at Cox/Castille, Charles/Jones, Moeaki/Pope.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
Very true. And yet, more postions ARE emerging as 2-deep.
I think that’s why I see the glass half-full (of Kool-Aid). There are more good things happening in more places. Kinda the sense of freedom I remember feeling 2 weeks after I broke my leg, after the swelling was down, and I was gettin’ around pretty good on crutches, learning how to kick doors and wedge ’em open with the tip of the crutch as I sailed thru.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
But o' course, I was still a guy with a busted leg on crutches.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
by hmills110 on Aug 26, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha!
my kool-aid went a little sour tonight watching bradford spray the ball all over the place against the Pats. here’s to hoping haley and big chuck are playing possum a bit on O or just feeling the o-line out. [hint: still weak]
guess the eagles will help sort things out. Eagles>Patriots>>>>>Tampa
I kinda know what you mean.
Stopped in for dinner late and saw that on TV here in STL. Had a “WTF?” moment. Of course then NE decided they didn’t want to lose to the Rams and kept Brady and Moss in for pretty much the whole game. First half stats were astounding though.
Am I to take your comment...
That you think FB and TE are positions of depth?
I would disagree, sorry. Collectively, those are 4 players which no outside observer would put in the top 20 at their position league wide.
It’s like the saying, ‘if you’ve got two quarterbacks, you really have no quarterbacks.’ That’s what I’d compare it too.
At RB, yes, we have some depth but I’m not sure how much is in the TJ tank.
Call me crazy
but every game so far has listed tim castille as the starter but mike cox is out there the begining of each snap??? so i believe haley when he says, don’t pay “too” much to the depth chart. i mean everybody but haley knows charles is the man…
by CHIEFFAN82 on Aug 26, 2010 5:47 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
haley knows too
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
by stagdsp on Aug 26, 2010 6:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You forgot Offensive Weapon:
OW1: Charles
OW2: The Dex Factor
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 26, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions
The real question here is Rudy or Casey? Well my high ass prefers Casey. I feel Caseys veteran leadership on the line outshines Rudy gettin blown up every play
by ~chief_ganja_king~ on Aug 26, 2010 6:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
I think the line play last week with casey out there what 100% better as far as the C position. Plus all the leadership on the line with lilja casey and waters with to help the younger guys on the outside.
by chiefs8288 on Aug 26, 2010 7:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
O'Callaghan
I’m not sure what the latest is regarding O’Callaghan’s health [groin], but RT is not locked down in my mind when we open on Monday night. I know you can always add “barring injury” to any position, but given the fact that he’s not exactly in the “stud” category, it wouldn’t surprise me to see either Richardson or Brown in there when we open the season.
In the sense that no one is really questioning O’Callaghan as first on the depth chart, I guess it’s not really a “battle.” I have to stop now because I’ve use my “quotation marks” quota.
by sunny D on Aug 26, 2010 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't agree more
Actually I’m hoping we can snag someone else from the scrapheap on the drop to 53….
I also agree. You're way over your quotation mark quota.
RT oughta be in the discussion. With what didn’t happen on the RT front, one really hopes that nobodies like Brown and Richardson are pushing O’Callaghan hard. A groin injury seems a typical way for this outfit to get new blood on the field. It’s an August groin injury that had me wanting KC to do something more definitive at RT last winter.
At least Brown and Richardson both have big upside potential, but Richardson has always seemed to fall short of his potential, and Brown has been the biggest invisible man on the planet for a year-plus.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
Truthfully
I think RT is one of the “stage 2” (quotation marks, see wut I did there?) development projects.
This coming off season I think the front office will attack our second tier needs in the big overhaul picture, and RT is one of them. It’s been a need, but not as pressing a need as secondary and probably NT / Return game / Slot WR.
We got the return game and slot WR taken care of. I think they wanted a full year under Romeo to determine the ILB situation. We have some talent there, but it’s talent that’s not reached potential. And with this last draft, they had to pick their battles since we had so many holes that all of them couldn’t be addressed in one fell swoop.
I think RT / NT / ILB (after getting a full season of Romeo use / assessment out of our current ILBs to see who stays and who goes) will be our next issues addressed – with consideration given to WR and C.
Right now I think those fighting for this year’s starting RT job are fighting for the long term backup RT role once it’s addressed.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Stage 2
Good perspective, TRS.
Makes a person wonder about our ability to develop talent – defensive especially, the past few years – when you see Monty Beisel starting for the Cardinals and Scott Fujita starting for the Saints. Wilkerson and Pollard doing well. My hope is that we have coaches in place that will actually teach and coordinate the guys we’ve got.
Another indicator of poor coaching in the past is that the high draft picks that most everyone agreed were good players coming out of college haven’t performed up to expectations. Too often we just assume we whiffed on the selection instead of concluding that we haven’t had the coaching necessary to help pull it together. Haley’s conditioning emphasis was a step in the right direction, I believe. Now it’s teaching and scheming. Hopefully more good steps. Then talent selection – your stage 2. (Nice use of quotes, btw.)
I'm not sure the real position battles have even started...
I think we’ll see the first “right 53” followed by the second “right 53.” Maybe there won’t be much available on the waiver wire, but I imagine Scott will be pretty active.
by Chief Willie Wildcat on Aug 26, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Actually, I think the wire will be pretty electric this year.
So many noob’s came out before the new CBA. I think we’ll find some decent talent available once the dust settles. Pioli will have to act quickly, but I have faith in them doing so. One thing that I thought was cool was our scouts were already attending Alabama’s preseason. Is that on top of things or what????
With all my "We don't need no stinkin' ILB" talk, the waiver wire might just turn one up.
Likely to be some good value, there.
There was a fair amount of attention given in the draft to RTs, also (coincidentally).
Gee, I can’t wait until KC’s good enough not to be lickin’ its chops as cut-downs near. One hopes this is the last year they’ll be anywhere near the top 5 in the lunchline.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
How many of the Chiefs 53 in October are on the roster right now?
In other words, how many do we pick up from waivers?
I’d say five bodies coming from one of these ten positions…
- Right tackle?
- Nose tackle?
- Long snapper?
- Wide receiver?
- Inside linebacker?
- Third QB?
- Tight end? If Moeaki stays out.
- Defensive end?
- Cornerback? If MoLegg stays out.
- Fullback
I'd think they'd be looking for upgrades anywhere they can find them, even if it's just depth
My best guess would be a NT, LB and RT but we’ll find out soon enough.
Do not for get no 3 QB
I think we will try to get a vet because Palko & Stull would be a mistake to trust .
CHIEFS fan 4 life
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Aug 26, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
I hope
You go with a young QB at #3 if you feel he can develop into a starter or contributor…I don’t think Haley or Pioli feel that way about Palko, and certainly not Stull.
Let’s sign a QB someone else tries to slip on their practice squad or go get a vet. These guys are wasting a roster spot.
we should be looking for another tightend
Pope is a blocker and Moeaki has a glass mangina
maybe look at center and wide receiver too … but we probably won’t
no real position competition when you suck isn’t necessarily a good thing
Why is your Kool-Aid glass full of gasoline?
I think we are nearly set on offense and defense. I think we might snag a NT after roster cut day. I think we will dump Page in trade for another potential starter…I hope.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
