Wallace Gilberry Starting Would Be Good And Bad For The Kansas City Chiefs
by Joel Thorman on Aug 24, 2010 10:00 AM CDT
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On Monday Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley said Wallace Gilberry is in a competition with the other defensive ends on the roster for a starting job. It's good to promote competition and Haley continually says he's about creating competition so it didn't seem like a huge deal.
Except when you think what would happen if Gilberry started. He would be knocking out a top five pick -- Glenn Dorsey or Tyson Jackson -- if he started. He's currently listed as the second team defensive end behind Dorsey.
It would be a good thing and a bad thing if Gilberry started.
It would be good because the Chiefs would be getting production out of someplace they didn't really expect it. Gilberry is a cheap option and he would be another good player on the defense.
"You never know," Gilberry said Monday of being a starter. "I'm at the bottom of the totem pole. I'm still working hard every day. If the opportunity presents itself, I'll be ready for it. But if not I'm going to keep working hard. I'm not too concerned about starting. It's a team effort."
It would be bad because, well, that would be a top five pick that isn't starting. This would be, in my opinion, a worst case scenario situation. Whether it's the case or not, it would seemingly indicate they're giving up on one of those guys and it's way too early to give up on either.
Give Gilberry credit though for getting to where he is today. He's undersized and, frankly, probably has no business starting in a 3-4. But, as I've said before, he's consistently around the ball and shows a Tamba Hali-like energy on the field.
"I had a chip on my shoulder since I was in high school and it got me where I am today," Gilberry said. "I'm nowhere close to being arrived but I'm definitely in the presence."
Gilberry has been playing in nickel situations to this point.
When Haley says things like this in the media, I fully believe it's a motivational tactic. Haley knows when he says Gilberry could start that folks like me will write stories like this and that might help motivate the guys ahead of Gilberry.
Maybe that's not the case but it sounds familiar to the quarterback competition comment from last year and Jones being placed ahead of Charles on the depth chart -- both, in my opinion, motivational tactics.
So in the end, I don't see Dorsey or Jackson losing their job, even for a game.
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who knows how it'll shake out ... maybe it really is a motivational ploy by Haley
then again … time will tell, eh?
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Exactly
I mean, if Gilberry is clearly outplaying one of them, why not?
That said, i don’t think he’s nearly strong enough against the run to be a full time DE in a 3-4.
Good pass rusher and situational player though.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's exactly my view
Let the best player play. It’s not necessarily a tragedy if a “nobody” beats out a top-five pick, especially if that makes it possible to unload the top-five pick soon. I don’t expect that to happen, because as you said, Gilberry’s not an every-down end in a three-man front.
I really am sticking to my guns I flashed when I wringed my hands about the rumors that KC might end up picking Tyson Jackson, and when I harshly criticized the pick when it actually happened. I don’t think he was a very good pick. But I don’t think counting on Gilberry as an every-down guy is good, so unless KC can find a cheaper option to replace Jackson in rotation with Gilberry, I think he, Jackson, and Dorsey are in KC to stay. Of course, it’s unfortunate that Dorsey is playing so out of position.
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by burntorangehorn on Aug 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I think all of us here sometimes think...
“I wonder how many sacks Cushing/Orakpo would have combined to get with Hali?”
But such is the way of things…
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Cushing has no business playing in the NFL
I can’t believe all these guys get for abusing steroids is a 4 game suspension
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
I think a confirmed positive should result in a minimum of 16 regular-season games and any post-season games that occur prior to the 17th regular-season game. That is, if a guy were to test positive right before the regular season, he’d miss the entire season plus the post-season, if applicable. If caught right before the second game of the season, he’d miss the 15 remaining games, the post-season, and the first game of the next season. The NFL just doesn’t want to get tough about this, because enough meathead fans don’t care.
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by burntorangehorn on Aug 24, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
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This is a sport that is driven by hard hitting, and strategy. Steroids only increase the level of strength and endurance for a particular athlete. Cheating is writing test answers on your arm, not fueling your body with the proper ingredients to run at an optimum level. Simplified, it is like deciding between regular or premium gas. Obviously, your car will run better on premium.
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See the problem with that line of thinking is that leads to use of steroids becoming the norm, just so guys can compete with other juice heads, or they fall behind.
So in order to do their job at the professional level, they now more or less have to use that crap, or they lose their job to someone who will. So you’re making it essential for guys to do things to their bodies that have some very bad health risks and can do long term damage.
Not a wise practice, imo.
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by TRSChief on Aug 24, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Steroids only increase the level of strength and endurance for a particular athlete.
No, they also carry with them horrible side effects and can lead to permanent health problems.
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by PVChiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Steroids are not proper ingredients.
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by burntorangehorn on Aug 25, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
I’d forgotten about the roids
Memory fail.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
upamtn
Time will always tell : however sometimes we don’t listen or here time telling .
by 65tosspowertrap on Aug 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
i cannot see it as a motiviational ploy because...
haley isnt talking about magee and dorsey battling for the starting spot…
Yes
I also like the energy – Hali-like approach we feel when he is on site! We will see what next game brings..Go Chiefs!
by GermanCHIEFSfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions
Is there no chance
That TJax moves to the nose? I think they are our best 3 D lineman and Haley always says he wants our best players on the field. I know he’s undersized for the position, but not by much. 6’4" and 296. If I’ve seen one thing this preseason, it’s jackson getting better at absorbing a double team.
I don't see it
But you never know I guess.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
It's always a good thing when
the best player gets the most snaps. Regardless of contract.
A coaching staff that recognizes a bad (or average, or disappointing) pick as quickly as possible has to be commended in all cases. It’s hard to do.
That said, I don’t think contract status has anything at all to do with who Haley gives snaps to, and that is a fantastic thing to say about a coach.
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by Justin Bopp on Aug 24, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
Although sometimes he spooks me a little with his favorite guys, I do like that he doesn’t care at all about “status”.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
we will see alot this year
not only Gilberry and Jackson, but Vrabel and Studebaker will be interesting to watch unfold if Stude keeps on bringing it!
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Yeah, it'll be tough to justify keeping Vrabel out there the majority of the snaps
If Studie keeps playing well.
Although it would help if he developed a pass rush move rather than just using his speed. If the defender gets two hands on him he’s done.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
he allllmooooost got to the QB in the Tampa game
so I really want to see Stude break out, and while its all fine and dandy that Vrabel is the “voice” of the defense, I saw use him sparingly and even line him up on goalline TE situations.
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Yeah, he did
He’s fast and athletic, and seems to have the brains to pick up the position.
I have high hopes for both him and Belcher.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
The thing is though
Vrabel has looked much better so far this preseason. He has actually managed to pressure the QB better than Tamba in some situations and shown some pass rushing moves (a spin to get right in Matt Ryan’s face at ATL). I still think Vrabel has something left in the tank.
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I don't see how this can be a good thing.
Dorsey is going no where, the Cleveland game gave him at least a full year of job stability.
Can we hop into our hot tub time machine and redo the 2009 draft? Then I’d like to go back to 1996 and punch 18 year old Craig in the face.
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by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree about the CLE game
They saw what happened there. Also, he’s been holding his ground just fine.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm....
what did 18 year old Craig mess up on? Was 1996 the year you decided to move to Calgary? haha
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I don't really care at this point.
One guy overachieves, one guy underachieves. Who cares? Can’t complain if we end up with a good player on the field.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Why are all the comments already read?
Is it just me?
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by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions
Was the same for me
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by GenericBrand on Aug 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Me too
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah its not showing new comments
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That is extrememly annoying.
Grrrrrr.
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by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I dont adjust well to change
someone get someone on the horn, how dare they change AP without us knowing it.
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Working as usual for me. Guess I'm special?
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
No problems here either. I must be a "preferred customer" :-)
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holy shit...a new comment
woohoo
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Woo! I fixed it!
(That’s my story, and I’m taking all the credit for it working now. Truth be damned!)
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I'm just glad to see "Ding" playing well.
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bahahaha
I hope this happens…
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
Start him in place of Jackson
who could very well be a bust….I’m tired of hearing that it will take years for a DL to develop….I dont know about u but Mccoy looked pretty damn good for a rookie(that was selected #3 overall)!
by clockinoncloud09 on Aug 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
exactly the reason of my fanpost
other guys get drafted and “show up” immediately while we are suppost to “wait 3 or 4 year”. Im sick of waiting for them to develop.
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It's a balancing act, I suppose.
D Line can “show up” their first year. But real life experience shows that that’s the exception and not the norm.
Sure we’d all love for every draft pick to be exceptional compared to every player drafted by every other team. But the realistic expectation is that if you draft D Line, you plan for them to take 2 seasons to become the player you drafted them to be.
The frustrating part here is that – in most situations for competitive teams, they have guys already on the field who are average or better pro level players at their positions, while the drafted guys can be selectively plugged in to develop alongside the core players.
But our core players are the new draft picks, we don’t have the luxury that other teams do.
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by TRSChief on Aug 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Good comment
Now if only our ‘09 draft had been half as good as this year’s is looking…
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
Patience will have to be a virtue for a player in his 2nd year playing a position/scheme/technique he didn’t play at all in college. Other draft picks are put right into schemes they are very familiar with, making them likely to make an impact quicker
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Good point
Frustrating, but true.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Still Learning
Jackson’s lack of “nastiness” (which seems to be the trendy media theory) may just be him still being hesitant or thinking too much about what he’s suppsoed to do during the play, technique wise, scheme wise, in correlation with his teammates on the field. There’s a lot to think about making these changes, and if he had it all figured out after 1 season, that would be a big surprise, and just not likely
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Hypothetical situation
Gilberry lines up instead of Jackson and plays the San Diego game and absolultey reaks havoc…now what?
Its great the production is there, but Jackson is now just an overpaid rotational guy.
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by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions
put him at NT then
damn this pisses me off. These guys are so freaking high of draft picks and not impressing anyone! If that did happen then hell yeah for Gilberry and I hope we can find a few more like him.
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I feel the same way
If GIlberry does indeed play at a higher level, he should be the one in there.
It is what it is. If we messed up on a pick, admitting it and starting over right away is a LOT better than living in denial Al Davis style.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
The better player will play....
unless the lesser players makes more money
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Sadly, that's how it works sometimes
Teams are so desperate to justify their money spent that they blind themselves by saying, “he’s JUST about to bust out!”
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha no not in that case
He’s played just fine this preseason, and is healthy.
One can be said about Croyle, but not the other.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 24, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
or Peterson Style?
Siavvi, Sims…..so much wasted time and money
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by WestonK on Aug 24, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We have the lowest team salary in the NFL.
If we have an overpaid guy on the bench … so?
Let’s get production.
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good point
spend some cash and get someone in here, swing a trade and eat the salary, something, we need NASTINESS on the DLine!
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Sounds like you don't get it
When Haley says the guy who gives us the best chance to win will play, he means every word of it. When asked today how much weight the contract carries in the decision the answer was zero. Why is it you think he is lying about that? Winning is winning and if that means a high priced guy sits on his ass then so be it.
Wasn't Haley the screaming SOB supposed to have alienated the whole team by now? Something's wrong here...
OK....
Who really believes this is anything more than a motivational tactic? On one hand it tries to get more effort out of Jackson. On the other hand it gives an undrafted, ass busting player a taste of things that could come from his hard work.
Maybe there is some slim chance that WG does get the start come week one. If he’s lights out kick ass then it’s kind of hard not to play the best player… but I don’t think that’s the case. I guess we’ll see.
On a related note, the various talking heads around the area are starting to get harder and harder to listen to. Last night I listened to some guy on 810 mock Haley because of his attitude towards Charles and the “He’s getting it” quote in terms or playing and knowing the game. Several callers were freaking out too, one saying that Haley has a “God Complex” and will bench players like JC and DJ. What the hell man?
What do you want Haley to say about Charles right now? “Oh, yeah, he’s our best player and he gets it. He get’s the starting job. He’s ready to go.”?
While we ALL now that’s true (including Haley), the things he says and the things he does are all towards one goal… making players better. Haley is trying to make Jamaal better. He’s not one of the greats… yet… but Haley wants him to be one, I can guarantee that. He’s pushing Jamaal, trying to make sure that he doesn’t become content in his abilities. He’s trying to make Jamaal think that he can ALWAYS be better. And you know what? The type of person Jamaal is is likely to respond to this treatment very well, IMO, we’ll see.
I think the same thing is happening with T-Jax. Haley’s trying to find a way to get to him to push his buttons. This may or may not work but one thing is for certain… we have to try something.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
RNG very good points there, sometimes I’m lucky I dont have to hear those people on the radio like that.
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Sometimes I wish I did
I am sick and tired about the Calgary Flames 3rd line left winger in the middle of August.
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by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Calgary Flames?
Is that Lacrosse? Soccer? Curling?
by JacinB on Aug 24, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Curling... definately Curling
by Chiefs Fanatic on Aug 24, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I figured it was too cold in Canada for those other "warm weather" sports.
It must really suck living in a place you can only go outside for four hours a year because the weather is so awful. Guess someone has to live there, though. Otherwise, where would the world get its supply of animal pelts?
man that Canadian Little League squad yesterday sure tanked
I was pulling for them
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Were they playing in a dome?
Seeing the sun probably threw them off.
by JacinB on Aug 24, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And honestly:
This is what happens when you pick in the high rounds based on positional value, rather than taking the best player available. With the money we’re throwing at high picks, I say to hell with saying things like “You can’t take him that high… he’s a safety!”.
Let’s face it. Pioli reached for Jackson, and got minimal impact from him last year. Now he’s only average looking so far through preseason and a UFA is moving up the ranks. Now obviously we might have lucked out and we could end up with a beast LDE anyway, but it just blows that a draft pick might have been wasted.
While I don’t think that giving up on Jackson right now is the right thing to do… the Chiefs are in a tough spot if they have to bench their 3rd overall for his sophomore year because he’s not making enough progress.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 24, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hopefully it is a motivation tool
Haley used it last year with Bowe and so far the early returns are good, DJ the jury is still out on him, and now to one of the biggest weaknesses on this team the DLine. A good awakening and reality check is probably warranted for more players on this team than TJax but his improvement alone is going to give improvement to other areas, so this could be a good step.
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Good point.
And like I said, I believe it’s a motivational tool, and nothing more. Hell, when you step back and look at it, it’s probably a GOOD thing that so many people are making an issue out of this. It makes it awfully hard for Jackson to write it off as a BS tactic if he’s hearing how fired up fans are getting over it.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 24, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
sometimes that is what it takes
and Wallace Gilberry is hungry and Im sure will push every single day and night for that position. Its finally good to be talking about the depth getting better isnt it? Now if the starters would pull their weight, we would be in fine shape.
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If this was Magee clearly outperforming Jackson, I'd feel a whole lot better about things.
You can’t be a shitty team and completely whiff on an entire draft class and expect to get any better…the draft is too damn important in the NFL. When Pioli whiffed on a couple drafts near the end of his tenure it was fine, because they already had a very strong nucleus.
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by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions
*In New England
Don't get Jose Bautista Mad. You wouldn't like him when he is mad.
by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Well...
2009 may be a year to throw out… and not just season wise. We should just put an asterisk next to the 2009 season and say: “This was the year the Chiefs bulldozed the organization and started over. The 2010 Chiefs draft class is where we’ll really start rebuilding.”
But yeah… the 2009 class doesn’t leave much to be happy about. Hopefully Cassel steps up this year and shows us that we got a long term answer at QB for a 2nd round pick.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Look, I know this a Maddenism...
However, I moved Dorsey to NT and put in Gilberry in at DE and I was getting much better penetration. So with that thought in mind, what are Your thoughts on if we allow GD to pack on a few more pounds and move him into the interior?
by Chiefs Fanatic on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions
Don't get me started on Madden.
Its so freaking frustrating playing with the Chiefs. I’m going to for sure break the single season record of run defense shittiness.
Don't get Jose Bautista Mad. You wouldn't like him when he is mad.
by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
That is funny cause I am awesome in the run D department,
but get clobbered in the passing game. Not because I am not getting penetration, but from the QBs being able to alway get rid of the ball upon contact….
by Chiefs Fanatic on Aug 24, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
what? this is the best madden team we've had in years....the offense is beastly, and defensively they handed Demorrio a ridiculous tackle rating of a 95
the secondary is amazing, you cant pass on me with eric berry roaming…or Flowers/Carr/Arenas in press
run D, its all demorrio, its all T-jackson and his 87 tackle
its more about the game itself, its just all offense this year, however I have less issues than the real life KC D
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
My offense is awesome
I had to manually put Dex in more packages, and take Urban out, but Cassel is having a huge year and Jamaal might get 3,000 yards from scrimmage. Pass defense is not a problem but I get ran on all the time. I probably always sell out and once the RB hits the LB corps, they are gone.
or…..Maybe I’m just awful :(
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by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I have T-Jax benched in Madden. I'm in year 2 of Franchise. I play on all-pro
He only has a C potential, so I drafted a DE with B potential. Jackson pisses me off in Madden.
Also, and this is AWESOME…
During the draft I traded my 21st overall and Chambers for the Giants 7th overall and picked a 360 lb NT. This dude is a monster. I just finished the season at 13-3 and am getting ready to play the Colts in the AFC Championship game. The NT made the pro bowl and is in 4th place for DROTY. I also lucked on an A potential LOLB that is progressing well. The front 7 went from porous in the first year to stingy in the second. It’s funny… in one year I went from having the #1 offense and middle ranked defense to having the #1 defense and #4 offense. I think I can win the SB… one more game to play against the Colts… but they spanked me last time I played them.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I play all games, except the Colts. I always Sim the colts games
They are so frustrating to play. I realize Madden wants to to make the game more realistic, but Manning continually audibling makes the game play awful.
Don't get Jose Bautista Mad. You wouldn't like him when he is mad.
by craig in calgary on Aug 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Great pic, those eyes
Remember watching Neil Smith with his “crazy eyes”?
Who cares?!
All that matters is getting W’s. If we do it with Gilberry so be it.
by ChiTownChiefs on Aug 24, 2010 10:43 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
i dont see any bad in this. i get the whole, “we spent a #3” pick on him stuff… but that’s spilled milk, its a sunk cost.
if we found someone better at a lower price, great. let’s just keep adding high performing pieces
by jack_sparrow on Aug 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
this would be the best thing for the chiefs
It just shows no matter what draft pick what round u either ball or ur out a draft pick is just a number
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Aug 24, 2010 10:59 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
good man Gilberry, keep on working...the sad thing is, we may NEED him to start at some point if t-jax has the "worst season by a player"
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Who did Jarred Allen (4th rd.) beat out for his job?
Seems sort of similar, besides the whole 3-4/ 4-3 difference.
Why?
Why all this worry about where he was picked and how much he gets paid. Haley doesn’t give a rats ass, he is going to play the best player. Period. Just like it should be. Doesn’t matter how a guy got here, once they are in the building everyone has the chance to step up and play. Or am I the only person that has heard our coach say that? Or does everyone just think he is lying?
Wasn't Haley the screaming SOB supposed to have alienated the whole team by now? Something's wrong here...
Still think a stud NT would make a big difference here
I’m not saying anything good or bad here for Dorsey or TJ, but I believe they would look a whole lot better with a stud NT playing in the middle with them.
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