Jason Whitlock Talks Chiefs One More Time On 'The Explanation'
Jason Whitlock, formerly of the Kansas City Star, completed "The Explanation" on 610 Sports and Metro Sports.
The entire thing was....interesting, but definitely entertaining.
At several points, he broke down emotionally. Despite his public persona, I think this is a very, very big deal to him and that showed.
The whole thing lasted three hours and he did, a few times, talk about the Chiefs.
One more time, here's Jason Whitlock on the Kansas City Chiefs.
- Not much Carl Peterson talk at all. He referenced Peterson a few times as someone he criticized and recounted one story alleging that Peterson had police kick him out of the hospital when he went to visit Derrick Thomas after the accident.
- He doesn't think the Chiefs are going to be very good this year. He said Todd Haley's demeanor has improved but there are too many familiar faces from last year.
- "Ty Law? It was one of the many mistakes I made as a sports columnist. Ty Law and Chester McGlockton. They signed Chester McGlockton and I predicted 16-0 on that. They had the dream team defense and I thought no one would score on them."
- He says if Scott Pioli builds a winner in Kansas City he'll be praising him.
"It's sad man," Whitlock said. "I've been a local newspaper columnist for a long time and that's all I ever wanted to be."
We'll post audio of the interview when it's available.
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Disagreed On McGlockton Being A Huge Miscalculation
There wasn’t really a way to predict that he’d be such a bust in KC. He was a top DT in Oakland and he was in the prime of his career when he signed with the Chiefs and had no injury issues. It was a signing that just didn’t work out.
16-0, however, is always a huge miscalculation to predict.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
What are you saying...
The 2010 Chiefs WON’T be the second team to make 16-0? Damn.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 20, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
By UCrawford: I THINK he was dinged when they signed him, and miscalculated that he'd get/stay healthy.
By watching how Haley operates, I don’t think the previous coach(es) paid as much attention to the sports medicine side of it. I’m not certain how high up you take the responsibility for some of these moves. KC wasn’t developing players the way they should’ve, and while that’s the fault of the coaches, I think the mgmt needs to get coaches in there who are up on the latest/greatest in health/strength/conditioning.
IIRC, Chester DID come in with a reputation for taking plays off. Most of us used Chokeland as the excuse, there, and were totally OK with the acquisition at the time. I’m pretty sure I was, and the overweight McGlockton played like a total stud in the preseason, before spending the rest of the season(s) on the verge of IR with a bad back.
I don’t see this current regime taking a chance on a McGlockton (certainly not for another couple years), but having made such a choice, I bet the new guy’d have a tough time passing the physical, and wouldn’t’ve gotten on the field without passing the conditioning test.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
by hmills110 on Aug 20, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd Agree With Most Of That
Oakland has a habit of killing players’ attitudes and based off of what happened with Marcus Allen and how well Marty did with defensive players, I thought McGlockton would turn in an all-world season here. But he didn’t. I didn’t know about him being possibly injured, though…I thought he was fine. But I could be wrong too. He certainly wasn’t the same player here that he was in Oakland.
But all things considered, having the same information available that the Chiefs did (barring injury) I still think you make that deal.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
nick wright
looked uncomfortable and out of his element.
whitlock was great for KC.
though I cant stand him.
How was he great for KC?
Just wondering about your reasoning.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
whitlock
Whitlock was good because he was the only person with enough sack to take on Carl Peterson in print. Carl didn’t pee a drop without Marty and he deserved to be called on it as well as his brutal drafts that we are still paying the price for (i.e. 10 wins in 3 years).
by Newbaum Turk on Aug 20, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He Was Great For The Star
Until people got sick of his schtick. Then he just became another overpaid hack who didn’t realize the decreasing importance of newspaper journalism.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
To be fair
He’s been doing online stuff for, what, like 7-10 years? Plus, his columns were always the most read on KansasCity.com. Not much he could die about the relevance of newspapers the medium, but newspaper reporters/columnists (like himself) are still the most influential.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 20, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not much he could *do*
try and save you from a bad mistake
Where does the talent of Royals prospects go? I imagine a man in Germany shouting "Why can I play baseball so well? WHY?" - Joe Posnanski
"I really hate the Cardinals. All they do is bitch and moan about everything. They're little bitches" - Brandon Phillips
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Aug 20, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
totally agree
wrote something similiar in response to one of your earlier comments. About controversy being a high selling point for writers.
agree with decreasing importance of newspapers
they just haven’t bought into the online formats in the massive way they needed to in order to Adapt to the direction the mediums are headed.
So all the Star Columns linked to from AP are unnecessary
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
oh boy
I would be writing a column if I was to go in depth on why newspapers are falling off. but to sum it up, the internet is coming in strides in the market because news can be streamed instantaneously and is accessible instantly from virtually anywhere at any given time. which is why most people get their news from the internet. its easy, fast, free, and attainable. newspapers just havent bought into this yet. they are making some steps(.coms, column links) but not to keep up with mass migration of people that used to subscribe. the numbers speak for themselves. look em up.
You missed my point :)
Newspapers create the story that feed that internet frenzy. Sure you can get the information Once some one wrote it that actually has the 3 credible sources so no one gets sued.
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
As i stated once when the Talk was about Teicher's panties
and the walk through practice.
That is the job of reporters and the Star’s reporters use those sunshine laws and the NFL rules to keep the flow of info coming to you the KC sport fan about area teams. Tony Rizzo was the one that got the ball rolling on the Jayhawks ticket fiasco. Ricky Clemons anyone.
What blogs breaks news? Very few IMO
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
but not on an up to date consistant basis.
I am a journalist as well, and it is a overwhelmingly known sad state of affairs that newspapers are dying out to the internet. Subscriptions are dropping in almost every market. Which is why I think columns rule print journalism currently, instead of straight up news.
The Europeans have a good idea to boost readership
Scantily clad women works, Tabloid journalism is not a great answer. Butt if you are trying to survive
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
kaching! spot on, Steve ...
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Agreed, Steve
You make a great point and it’s one of the reasons you don’t see me dissing the Star very often. They’re there, every day, getting news. They’re consistent, and much of what they report drives the conversations at sites like AP.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 20, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Though
A big emphasis of ours over the last year has been creating more original content and, by going out to games, practices, OTAs and training camp, I think we were able to make a big jump in doing our own reporting.
That’s the only way a site like AP will be able to make if/when the Star cuts back on their staff even more.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 20, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Question
and I imagine in the SBNation ownership structure overall, do you have the lawyers to press the story and the money to buy that right.
I think KU actually made the Star pay a nice price for the documentation to continue the investigation of their own program.
A blogsite and blogger couldn’t put that money down to continue a possible bad lead.
As a follow who is going to keep all the other scumbag hustlers honest without the press. The TV News is all about the video, without the Newspapers doing all the legwork, Why would all the TV trucks be parked in Roy Williams driveway? Maybe a bad example
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well Bob Gretz has gone pay to play
Profootballfocus has too
eventually if the doom and gloomers get their way the presses will be gone and ESPN will have locked up all the premium content in a pay to read structure.
I once served in the USAF (I was not a pilot) but thousands of us kept those pilots in the air day in day out.
I now work for a newspaper (not in editorial content ) but hundreds of us keep the stories coming to a website near you.
The pilots could be rather arrogant and think all those others were there for them (We Were) but we were there for any pilot.
Same with Columnists, we will have new pilots and new columnists. Monday will be a strange day
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
bingo
evidence of a new trend in news. you started doing more research and your own reporting and i recall you being cited as a source by someone else for your reporting on the chiefs.
I agree
But Joel can’t do it all by himself. I think he knows that now.
The AP community stepped up (in there own self-interest) to add a lot of different spin to the Chiefs Training camp. I and we all love that.
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
absolutely
this site is so refreshing. just the info is incredible. i have been a die hard chiefs fan for years, and in just the short time ive been on this site I feel I am actually more “informed” about my team than I have ever been. Love it.
by flavian79 on Aug 20, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What kind of a man, feels it is appropriate, to go on TV and Radio
for three hours, and backstab and aire dirty laundry that occured between himself and the sports department at the Start, on his way to a new job that he wouldn’t be getting had it not been for the very company that he’s mouthing about on TV.
I’ve been in a lot of different office environments in my lifetime. Not once did it ever occur to me when the office politics became so screwed up that I decided it was time to move on, to hold a 3 fricking hour tv and radio show to in essence ruin the reputations of the people I had elected to leave behind.
Jason is a complete punk.
You got a great new job. Why all the backstabbing on the way out of town? And they weren’t there to defend themselves from his spineless attacks either.
Sounds to me like JW was so damn spoiled that they had to hold his hand and agree with every thing he said, or Jason would threaten not to write his stupid insulting opinions. (egoli)
Perhaps, he’s been writing about prima donna NFL players so long, he feels it’s ok to act like one himself.
Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.
Big ass baby.
I hope FoxSports sees his 3 hour explanation, so they know what’s gonna happen to THEM, when he leaves THERE.
Is there no such thing as loyalty anymore on this planet, to say nothing of GRATITUDE, for what the Star has done for his career.
I didn’t give a shit whether Jason came or left, until I saw him badmouthing everyone at the Star after he inked his new deal on TV.
What a piece of shit.
Everyone has people we didn’t get along with in former companies, we just didn’t have the luxury of holding a 3 hour backstabbing fest about them on the way to our next job, nor would we, if we could.
It’s called ethics, and Jason has NONE.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Just one more thing....
I realize this comment may not be popular with some of you, and I had no feelings either way on Whitlock, until I saw this “explanation”, on TV.
I just found it to be unbelievably vindictive, audacious, and completely unnecessary.
Your going to a new and better job, so just go and reap. Why ruin the reputations of others on the way out?
Sickening.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
And how ironic......that he kept talking about their lack of
ethics, over and over and over again, and with each word, proving he himself has none.
It’s just maddening.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
I guess when they retaliate in the Star.....
he’ll schedule a 6 hour metro sports special to throw more mud.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
That's my last comment on the matter.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
I think you pretty much nailed it.
I listened to just a bit on the radio on my drive home. Since it was on 610, I was hoping Nick would ask him some questions, but I never heard any during the time I listened. After about 10 minutes or so of him whining about who should have gotten the department head of the sports department, I had enough and went to 810 sports and listened to a Trent Green interview (much more upbeat).
Trent Green
The perfect person to teach Retirement 101. His first student? Brett Farve…
My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
"Right, a ball of hot flaming gas that collapses upon itself." -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 21, 2010 5:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I got your point steve:)
maybe a bit of confusion on mine. Im saying newspapers definetly do not create the internet frenzy. actually they suffer from it. the reason why the medium has switched to internet is because of the rapid up to date info you get online. Columns may use internet as sources and have .coms(kcstar.com) to keep readers informed etc, but they are way behind in how they approach news with all the advancements in communication. (someone having espn.com, or kcchiefs.com as an app on their cell, instead of kcstar.com)
Segmentation of the readership/interest
it is currently going on in political sentiment.
Eventually we will have quite a polaritized society based on who likes what. I get that, but who worries about crime (spends money) to report on it. Who watches over the non-sensational. The smaller the newsroom the less that the citizens learn about. The Star did a story on Human Trafficking. What interest group is going to continue watch for and keep that controlled?
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly steve
thats why newspapers and “news” are starting to divorce each other to the way of columns. i love the newspaper and it would be a sad day if it was ever considered obsolete. but communication has come so far that i fear that it is headed in that direction.
and then when you add 'net neutrality' into the issue,
information will take on an even greater skew. Just plain ol raw facts will come from…….where?
How does he normally look on radio?
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
Soooo long Mrs George!
Well, I could really care less.
One last prediction on Fatlock : I predict that this idiot will eat his way to 450lbs by Dec 2012 and begin sweating like Jamie Dukes in a Doughnt shop full of dentists.
Get rid of KC Wolf..PLEASE...It's time for...TOMMY HAWK !!
by 25 in Charge on Aug 20, 2010 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
why bother with this post/thread if you don't care? why bother posting your sophomoric comments?
shame you can’t be adult enough to refer to the by his name … you belittle yourself by name-calling, and by extension lower the quality of AP
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Aug 20, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
get 'em upamtn!
btw, i agree totally with what you said. totally unnecessary
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
I agree with you
Does this also apply to HIV when he refers to Cassel as Casshole?
Chiefs 44 Donkeys 24 Who's Next!!
by ChiefWildcat on Aug 21, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, there's a double standard here when it comes to that.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
by TRSChief on Aug 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about Germ Edwards....
triple standards?
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Aug 21, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've never called the guy that
I don’t like Herm at all, but I’m not going to revert to the 6th grade and call him names.
I’ll just rejoice in the fact that he’s gone.
Feel free to stick yourself with that kind of stigma if you want, though.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
thank you, Joel ... appreciate the info and those few comments from Jason
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Whitlock on Tech N9NE
He said he loved the older songs, referencing I’m a Playa, This Ring, and It’s Alive. Then he said that he doesn’t listen the dark Tech songs because they are things that he doesn’t want to listen to them. He completes this by saying something along the lines of, “In fact, off the album Anghellic, I didn’t listen to the first 9 songs because they were so dark!”
Mr. Whitlock, This Ring is song #4 on Anghellic, and It’s Alive is song #9. But hey, at least I’m a Playa comes from Absolute Power. So he at least got something right. You can’t do Tech like this, Whitlock!
Dear Alex Gordon:
I still think you will be awesome, but for the love of God, please stop getting hurt.
Sincerely,
RF
I'd swear off the sonofabitch after reading some stuff.
Then I’d be lured back by one good article, catch up on some of the stuff I missed, and like some of it. Then I’d read another and I’d swear off.
I didn’t and I don’t dig the uncited sources for soap opera dramatics, even if there was truth in some of it. The fact that he had such crap to write, though, lies in the ammunition that Peterson and company gave them. Up and down the line there was way too much self-serving bullshit, loose talk, and spin-doctoring going on within the Chiefs organization. I see that, now, and it makes me a little less inclined toward Shitlock-hate. In hindsight, maybe I was hating on the messenger a tad.
I wish him well. He’s pretty unafraid and throughout it all, he hasn’t ducked his critics. He took on some hot topics. But I still think of him as Shitlock, and probably always will.
"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"
by hmills110 on Aug 20, 2010 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would venture to say that Jason Whitlock’s readership and that of the KC Star ballooned after Scott Pioli was named GM of the Kansas City Chiefs, followed by Todd Haley, then Matt Cassel. The Patriots/(Superbowl) Cardinals-connection cannot be discounted. I found, in order, AP.com, KCChiefs.com and KCStar.com following Pioli’s hiring. I hope Whitlock is grateful for the added exposure that lead to his new deal.
Love, Hate for sure
I ran around with Joe McGuffs sons and read his column growing up and let me tell you they have a tough road between the travelling and watching games that they could give a rats ass about and make us care about our teams in KC where losing has became a national joke. He did give a different perspective and took unpopular stances which about 60% of those were with me. I looked on Fox Sports today and his writing is still the most commented on, even after you remove the simpletons comments who have nothing better to do that call him names. I did enjoy watching Peterson get pissed off at him at the press conferences or when he said that if Diamond Joes ever blew up the Chiefs would lose 80% of their team. Later Big Sexy
Hate: Hate for sure.
He was with the star when I lived in Kansas. I read his stuff for a couple years. At some point I came to the realization that Whitlock was a glorified tabloid hack; a shock-jock of the newspaper, if you will.
I never found much substance in his writing, and I don’t think he was a talented writer in any sense of the word. He took controversial positions on inflamed subject matter and threw as much gasoline on the fire as he could carry. I stopped reading him all together years ago, and I never missed him one bit.
The more I learned about him outside of the paper, and how he treated people around him, the more my dislike of Whitlock grew. To me, he was never more than the ‘Howard Stern’ of the newspaper long before Howard Stern; only replacing sexually driven commentary with race driven.
I’m happy to see him go. My only regret is that he will now be employed full time by Fox Sports, giving him a much bigger platform from which to piss down on everyone he deems beneath him.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Aug 20, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
For the record
Over the course of this process I’ve talked to folks who know Whitlock well, and I have heard the exact opposite about him. I trust and respect your opinion — just wanted to say, for the record, that I’ve heard differently.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 20, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats whats great about opinions...
… we all don’t have to have the same one =P
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynicism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Aug 20, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But Joel...
If you decided to leave SBNation for a better job…(if there’s such a thing), would you hold a 3 hour tv and radio show and speak ill of everyone you didn’t like at SBNation on the way to your new job? Telling the public that so and so lacks ability to do this and that, that so and so has no ethics? That so and so, is “not a very good person, not at all”, until you had impuned the reputations of everyone you had an inkling of dislike for???
I think not. You’re an ethical person, with humility and gratitude. Jason obviously is not, and that’s where I take exception.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
And I seriously doubt, that if Metro Sports, knew what the subtext of Jason's
explanation was going to be as it pertained to his vindictiveness towards his former employer, the Star, that they would have allowed him a desparate attempt to subjugate his former employer..
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Why didn't he just write a big vindictave article about his departure for FoxSports?
Because he knows the editors would never let it hit the net.
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
~ last words of Francisco ("Pancho") Villa ~
Whitless has been, and always will be
a douche, glad he’s gone.
For better or worst...I liked Whitlock. He made me think. He did not always accept the company line and told us fan that we did not have to accept it either.
I think he covered the Chiefs the way they should have been covered. I also thought that he gave—like the rest of the media in KC— the Royals a continued pass for being one of the wrong ran organizations in baseball if not sports. I did not always agree with him but then again I don’t always agree with every author I read. That would be boring. I admire people that work hard and want to grow within their profession. This is Whitlock next step. In 5 years it’s highly likely you won’t be able to buy a printed newspaper like we do today. Hate him or like him..KC lost a good sports writer.
by NFL season ticket holder on Aug 20, 2010 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
“I’ve been a local newspaper columnist for a long time and that’s all I ever wanted to be.”
Bullshit Jason – if that was truly all you ever wanted to be, you’d still be doing it for $100,000 a year…don’t you dare act like it’s not about the money.
Hell, I wish I could work the job I really want to do (teach college) and make half of what Whitlock made at the Star.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
You didn't listen to the interview Did You?
And IMO that college tenure is more nasty political shit than you would want to deal with for what you are paid
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No I didn't
but if Whitlock truly loved writing for the Star, he’d still be doing it making a salary perfectly sufficient to support him.
I guess it just wasn’t sufficient to support the lifestyle he chose.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Aug 20, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Jason says something about "Talking truth to power"
that was the whole gist of his Peterson feud.
This was about you can only really talk about hypocracy from the outside of the organization. The Star got a nice breeze blowing through the halls of 18th and Grand today. sometimes it takes just one (rather than the other 400 people let go) to Air out the real problem
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 20, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
If you didn't even listen to his explanation...
…then why would you try and talk about it? Do you drive with your eyes closed too? If my boss was making decisions with the wrong head like Whitlock says, and it started affected me and how I could do my job, eventually I would move on.
Whitlock may seem a little odd and misguided at times (he’s not meant for radio or tv), but after reading him for 16 years, I really believe he’s an honest and sincere person. Love him or hate him, his opinion not being available in the Star anymore is a negative for all parties involved.
Check out my blog here.
-The KC Eye
Yes I'm sad to see him go
but no, I don’t believe that writing for a local paper is all he ever wanted to do…or he’d still be doing it.
If he had issues with his boss, he could have moved to a different paper – not a national gig that paid more than five times what he was making.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
You cannot....
continue to churn an entire roster over in huge portions over and over and expect to build a winner. Especially when there are no players that would qualify as an upgrade to replace them. At some point you gotta develop the players you have. So I disagree that we will be a poor team because we “still have too many familiar faces”.

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