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Chiefs Training Camp: Another Hot Afternoon In St. Joe

The Chiefs took the field for their second practice of their second two-a-day. As usual, it was very hot.

There were no major changes at camp this afternoon.

A couple housekeeping notes before we get going: The Chiefs Wednesday morning practice will be indoors and not available to fans. The Wednesday night practice is still on if the weather holds up. Our trusty (trusty?) weather friends call for rain on Wednesday. I think this Wednesday night one would be a good one to go to. Let us know if you're planning on going to that.

I've got details a few of the things I saw and some of my thoughts from the afternoon in St. Joe.

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Jake O'Connell has had a rough camp at times. He hasn't shown great hands and was called out today by Todd Haley for an incorrect block.

Kestahn Moore has continued with his solid camp. He had a nice run between the center and guard (Jon Asamoah) for 6-7 yards. Haley wondered (out loud) after that play if they were ever going to clog that hole.

This is becoming a daily line: Wallace Gilberry is around the ball a lot. I heard a couple of "That's the way to do it, 92" from the coaching staff today.

A nice move by rookie Kendrick Lewis on Jon McGraw during a special teams drill. McGraw was cycling backward getting ready to block Lewis when the rookie put a move on him and zipped right past to get the return man. One of the assistant coaches got on McGraw's case for it.

During 7-on-7 drills, Dwayne Bowe dropped an eeeasy one across the middle no more than ten yards out. I heard some chatter about drops from the fans behind us after that one. The very next play Bowe got his hands on another and dropped it but Matt Cassel threw it behind him.

Brodie Croyle had a pair of excellent throws in 7-on-7 drills. Terrence Copper lined up on the right side and ran 15 yards and cut to the right end zone at an angle toward the pylon and Croyle floated a nice pass right over his shoulder for the catch. On that same set of reps, Croyle also hit Verran Tucker on a fade route from about 15 yards about.

Charlie Weis and Haley definitely interact on the field. Weis is usually off to the side on his scooter since he's having trouble moving so he has to yell everything. You hear a lot of Weis and Haley during camp. Weis doesn't seem like he's afraid to give his thoughts on a play or ask Haley a question but it's not contentious between the two by any means.

The Chiefs defense has been solid covering screens over the past three days but the offense will win one every once in a while. Thomas Jones took a screen that would've scooted him out to the secondary if it weren't for the no-tackling today.

For the second day in a row, Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher were on the first team. Corey Mays and Demorrio Williams were on the second team.

Rodney Harrison said on 810 WHB several weeks ago that he thinks the Chiefs will be willing to blitz Eric Berry like Crennel did with Harrison. It wasn't Berry but Javier Arenas disrupted things a couple of times blitzing.

Haven't heard from him very much: DaJuan Morgan. He stuffed a Kestahn Moore run in the backfield. He seems physically gifted but has been almost non-existent on defense his first two years in the NFL.

Tyler Palko isn't having a great camp. While he did hit Rich Gunnell on a 25 yard completion inside the ten yard line, the ball floated in the air and Gunnell had to stop to catch it.

First team vs. first team in two minute work. The winner: Defense. The offense was able to corral a couple of first downs via Dexter McCluster and Chris Chambers receptions but the defense shut them down on four straight plays: A short McCluster pass, thrown away by Cassel, batted pass by Gilberry and a sprinting Berry knocking down a pass attempt. Of course there were quite a few cheers for Berry on that one and you can see his reaction at the top photo.

A leaping Jerheme Urban caught a high Croyle pass and, as he turned around to run, was drilled by Ricky Price. Urban was down, obviously dazed, for a few seconds. The offense, led by Branden Albert, didn't like that very much and some words were exchanged. Haley calmed them down and they got back to work.

Other notes after practice:

  • Cameron Sheffield carries Mike Vrabel's pads.
  • Rich Gunnell carries Dwayne Bowe's pads.
  • Cody Slate carried Leonard Pope's pads.
  • I'd say less than 2,000 people showed up.
  • There was a rumor that a man in Zubaz and a hard hat was there. I can not confirm that.
  • Most obscure fan jersey: Percy Snow
  • Readers recognizing Joel at camp: Two (and four overall)

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D-Fence!

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 2, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

this heat I keep hearing about I laugh at.

try south Florida in summer.

Would ya like a free NANAA!

by Jazzy Megalodon on Aug 2, 2010 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

It's more the humidity than anything

I mean, it’s definitely hot but add the humidity and you’re in trouble. Everyone is dripping with sweat.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 2, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I know all about humidity! hahaha

i cant walk outside to get mail without sweating an playing football even pick up games is unreal so i know they are hurting but just be glad your not at dolphins camp.

Would ya like a free NANAA!

by Jazzy Megalodon on Aug 2, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually

I lived in Lauderdale for 8 years and in Key West for the last year. Moved to the Ozarks 2 weeks ago and its hotter here than it ever gets in South Florida.

Chiefsburger in Paradise

by KeyWestChief on Aug 2, 2010 9:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

no sea breeze

in the Ozarks.

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by kabrink on Aug 2, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah well you lived on the water. try the middle of the state or out in bele glade.

i’ve lived in FL, KS, MO, OH, WI, CA, . and id say thats the order id go with in hottest states.

i mean FL is closer to the equator. its just science hahaha. i will say though that KC gets hot an i feel like it shouldnt. prolly why it feels colder. but if you lived in FL you know how the winter here always feels colder than it is. so much humidity in the air.

Would ya like a free NANAA!

by Jazzy Megalodon on Aug 3, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was 96 degrees indoors

At my place today, although I am working with two window unit ACs. I got the main bedroom down to 81 by closing it off and dedicating one AC to it.

Predictions:

1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.

by Dove40 on Aug 2, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was 108 today in North Texas

I don’t want to hear anything about ‘Missouri humidity’ either. I go to Mizzou, and i stayed in Columbia last summer, and it’s not that bad

by TigerPride on Aug 2, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Lived in central Texas for three years, never want to go back. That place is the Devil’s armpit.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 3, 2010 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'll give you that!

Texas is freaking retarded HOT

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by Jazzy Megalodon on Aug 3, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take south florida...

been there….i think its worse here…maybe i just got a cool summer when i went….but i didnt think it was worse….

I have a feeling that 2010 will be a defining year for the Kansas City Chiefs. Do we become the 2001 Patriots or footballs version of the royals??

by Cowboynchrist on Aug 2, 2010 10:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You guys are all a bunch of P's! You should move to PA. Worst weather ever.

Terribly hot summers. Terribly cold/snow-filled winters. It just sucks a lot. All the time. Except for those few weeks in spring and few weeks in the fall….

God typed "iddqd" before creating Jason Heyward.

by EyePod on Aug 3, 2010 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

worse drive also

seems like it takes forever to get through and your on ramps to enter the highway are practically nothing, I saw like 3 bad accidents on my drive through there last month.

This is our year.

by jrcnc on Aug 3, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Technically....

it's bad stuff Joel

Bowe dropping passes, Cassel throwing behind receivers, and Croyle making good throws, instantly starting a QB controversy in many people’s minds. :-P

by FalconMF27 on Aug 2, 2010 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

And....

if Jake O'Connell and Tyler Palko don't make the team, then we might as well pack it in for the season

by FalconMF27 on Aug 2, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha

Croyle is a good QB in camp but Cassel is the guy.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 2, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cassel's mission

Hopefully, Cassel puts the questions of arm strength, accuracy, and decision making to rest during this training camp.

I consider Cassel’s 2008 season in NE like his “last college season”, and his 2009 season here in KC as his “rookie season”, and all we can hope for is steady improvement each practice, game, season, etc.

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 2, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cassel VS. Croyle 2010

New Year, Same Posts, Same Outcome

Cassel on the field
Croyle in the books

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 2, 2010 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Hater.

If Cassel goes down, you and the rest of the haters aren’t allowed to cheer for Croyle when he steps in admirably. End of story.

by bamachief5558 on Aug 3, 2010 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not a hater.

I like Croyle. I never said I didn’t. He just isn’t the starter and needs to develop his mental game because we all know he has the arm.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 4, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love hearing about Arenas blitzing

That could be an interesting aspect of our D

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by Aperture on Aug 2, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't get too carried away yet.

If it continues, then I’ll get worried but, I doubt that happens.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 2, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

dropped passes are better in august than in october

Great moments are born from great opportunity.
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by muwxman on Aug 2, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it's that hot, your gloves get slick, the balls get slick

The heat takes it’s toll on your concentration, bright sun in your eyes. Nothing to worry about

by RamX21 on Aug 2, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am so looking forward to the iggles on Aug 13

good offense maybe with Kolb and weak secondary, good tune-up for Green Bay, who should whip our Ass. We will see :)

Ninja Ass

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 2, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th preseason game

Most starters don’t play much in the 4th and final preseason game, so maybe we will have better backups than GB. Battle of the Depth! I’ll take Croyle over Matt Flynn any day of the week, and from the sound of it, our backup running backs should put the GB backups to shame.

Mark it 8, dude!

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 2, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

nobody

should be carrying DBowe’s pads.

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by kabrink on Aug 2, 2010 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Why?

Most WR’s coming into this league would die to average over 1,000 yards in their first two years. Of course, he has mental problems but he has been working REALLY hard this year. So, we will see.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 2, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know

and I hope you’re right. Even when he was putting up the numbers he was immature. He was really immature, or something, last year. I sure wish he would just catch the ball. Perhaps his Minnesota camp thing will help him be productive this year. In reality, this will be his 3rd season – when young receivers are supposed to “break out”. We’ll see.

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by kabrink on Aug 2, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, its funny he drops easy ones

but get a ball in the back of the end zone on the sidelines in double coverage he brings it in for a TD. Just a mental thing. Maybe only throw it to him when he’s covered. haha!

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 2, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, seriously

FRUSTRATING. AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by kabrink on Aug 2, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Loving the picture of Eric Berry

breaking up a pass.. Did you see that play Joel? What a stud. :-) Can you say NEW WALLPAPER on desktop.

"The greater the struggle, the more glorious the triumph"

Eric Berry counted to infinity -- twice.

by SwimCoach on Aug 2, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

How about we trade

Palko and O’Connell to the Omaha Nighthawks for Matt Gutz. I never thought I would say that I miss that guy.

Left Tackle is Brandon Albert's natural position.

by Idahochief on Aug 2, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks joel.

good stuff

high hopes for gilberry!

poor palko..I hope they stick with him a little longer…

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 2, 2010 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Wednesday Night Practice

I will be there with two buddies (who I’ve turned on to AP). We’re all really pumped about it.

Now we must do a rain dance so we can actually see practice. If I spot Primetime, I’m going to throw up the duece for all of us.

by higgige7 on Aug 2, 2010 11:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

just dont drop the deuce and we are all good

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 2, 2010 11:41 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I will be there for Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday practices

Hope to see you there Joel ;) Actually I am just looking forward to the experience as a whole. It should be awesome!

by ChiefMizzou09 on Aug 3, 2010 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Joel

I haven’t seen much about Tony Moeaki at camp so far. Sorry if I’ve missed it. But as a Hawkeye and Chiefs fan, I’m curious as to how #81 is looking so far. Thanks.

by Black and Gold on Aug 3, 2010 12:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, I'm not Joel,

and I was only there one day so far, but it looked to me like they had Moeaki blocking a lot. Maybe they saw his hands in OTAs, and now that pads are on they want to see some physicality. It looked like he was doing a decent job.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 3, 2010 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

nfl network

 looked like they were out there today. I never saw a segment from nfl total access on the chiefs, but at the beginning they had a box with footage from camp devoted to them and it seemed like they were going to talk about them later on, but like I said, I never saw it.

Did you notice the nfl network people Joel?

-Robbie

by Chiefsfan2012 on Aug 3, 2010 1:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, they are doing "Inside Training Camp" segments

Every day on Total Access. Today, they shown 7 on 7 and 11 on 11 drills in Cowboys camp. They had a few days scheduled but must be doing that on the Chiefs later on in camp.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 3, 2010 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Percy Snow?

Man, That fan is as old as I am!!!

by dawsontotaylor on Aug 3, 2010 7:14 AM CDT reply actions  

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