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Fate of Eric Berry Out of his Hands

 

If you are one of the many fans, like myself, that didn't believe taking a safety with the #5 pick was smart without having already established other important parts of the defense, like a strong pass rush and/or run defense, then maybe I'm just saying what we are all thinking. 

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It's fairly understood that Pioli and Co. believed our defense lacked speed in the secondary, having seen passing teams like Philadelphia and Dallas put on aerial clinics against us.  It's also fairly understood that passing on an exceptional talent like Eric Berry at #5 (and eventually making him the highest paid safety in NFL history) wasn't something that Pioli and Co. could let happen.  Adding him to a secondary that already includes an up-and-comer like Brandon Flowers could be a potent mix of talent in arguably the weakest part of our defense last season. 

However, as we've seen over the last two seasons, in the midst of setting the all-time record for least amount of sacks in a season in 2008 and being in the bottom 3 teams in rush defense in both '08 and '09, our secondary may be in a situation that will not allow them to reach their maximum potential, none more so than Eric Berry as a safety. 

In viewing comparisons of Eric Berry to other NFL players, the two most commonly made are Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu, due to Berry's playmaking ability and tackling/run support talent respectively.  One thing that is not brought up very often is that both these players in their prime were a part of very solid all-around defenses that were top 10 perennially in run defense and sacks.  It will be very difficult for Berry to realize either of these comparisons in skill if he's asked to do too much because of a lack of the rest of the defense able to pull their weight.  I know we all want to see Berry become a dynamic, all time player at his position, but what we all want even more than that is for him to be apart of a great, championship-caliber defense, and at the rate that some of these great safeties suffer injuries, Berry may not last long enough for the Chiefs to establish those other aspects of our defense. 

I'm happy he's a Kansas City Chief, but for the money they are paying him now,  the Chiefs MUST improve in our pass rush and run stopping much sooner than later, or Berry may just be another wasted top 5 pick that didn't contribute to the overall improvement for his team. 

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It can also be argued after last year...

That Polomalu added more to that steelers D and the steelers added to Polomalu. When Polomalu was healthy they were a good D last year when he went down they were not good at all. So just putting that out there.

by fixitquick79 on Aug 2, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Berry should quickly become a difference maker

"The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his way" Josh Billings
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by skunk420 on Aug 2, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

This is just my opinion. Don't take it personal. (Yawning)

These type of posts are a dime a dozen. Creative , original & educational content will get responses & debate. This is not one of them. I’m not alone in thinking this.

You can do better. Don’t give up.

Scott Pioli's star will shine in 2010.
Win or lose, the Chiefs scare the bejesus of all opponents in 2010

by ChiefsChance on Aug 2, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I disagree with that

It’s a different perspective on Berry that does warrant some attention.

I happen to disagree with Falcon (and he knows this, we’ve been round and round about it), but I think it’s a question worth exploring.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 2, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Respectfully

I have to disagree. Berry is an upgrade to the safety position, hopefully a huge upgrade, time will tell us there. The saftey position, especially the strong side saftey, is critical to a defense. Without solid play from that position any decent TE or slot reciever is going to have a huge day against your defense, and last season should have driven that point home.

Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...

by The G on Aug 2, 2010 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Not saying he won't be a major part of the defense

No doubt that a talented safety like Berry (hopefully) is a major part of a good defense, but he’s still at the mercy of the rest of the defense, and unfortunately, it was not good in just about every aspect last season. Like I said, we all want him to be a part of a top 10 defense, but he can’t do it alone, and I just hope for a quick turnaround from the rest of our defense to get us there before Berry’s shelf life is past; sooner than later is all I can hope for.

by FalconMF27 on Aug 2, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The defense is a team yes

I fully agree on that point, and the ENTIRE team needs to step up. With that said, it also needs to be noted that the chiefs defense was in the top 5 in the NFL in forcing 3 and outs last season., coupled with the league worst average gain per play of over 7 yds. This screams big play problems by itself, and unfortunatly the fact is the KC defense gave up a staggering number of big plays, both passing and running. 55 runs over 10yds and 46 passes over 20 yds if I recall correctly. That is an average of 6 big plays PER GAME….SIX!!!! (I honestly wonder how Coach Haley didnt explode).
Berry’s number one job in this defense is to limit those numbers into something more realistic. It reamains to be seen if he will be doing so with a veteran at FS or another rookie, but either way, cutting down on those big plays makes a huge impact on the defense, it changes the entire game in a positive way for the defense. There is not a lack of talent in the front seven or on the corners..there WAS a lack of talent at saftey. Every part of the defense has to work together to make a solid team, and last season one part was certainly missing in action 101 times.

Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...

by The G on Aug 3, 2010 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

My Bad

It was 57 runs and 44 passes.

Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...

by The G on Aug 3, 2010 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good points

I definitely see that we targeted Berrry for his speed and playmaking ability in our secondary to prevent those big plays from happening. I’ve made arguments to others that the recent draft strategy of targeting Berry, Arenas and Lewis hints that Pioli/Haley believe that our front seven would benefit more from secondary improvement than it would with getting different players in the front seven, and that hopefully with an extra second or two of coverage, our pass rush will get to the QB.

Good stuff

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 3, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

TY

Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...

by The G on Aug 3, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

The need for speedy playmakers

I wanted Dez for playmaking on the offense, but Dex is looking like he will add that dimension. I wasn’t a Berry fan either but have done a 180 after seeing some of that exceptional athleticism. I also had big concerns about the pass rush but believe Romeo will be very instrumental in bringing a pass rush.

by dubld on Aug 2, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Romeo, Oh Romeo

I do have high hopes that Romeo can scheme and put players and their strengths in better positions to be successful this season on the defensive side of the ball. We’ll see how far good coaching can take our talent pool.

My main concern for Berry is definitely injury; taking last season into account, I am expecting, at least until I see the change on the field, that our front 7/run defense, will be easily run on again, and Berry will be playing the run more often than not, thus putting him in high impact situations more often.

He’s young, healthy, has no injury history to speak of, so I have high hopes he can handle it, but for how long, no way to tell.

by FalconMF27 on Aug 2, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Aug 2, 2010 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm going about it almost the same way.

I’m expecting him to at least be an upgrade over Brown in coverage.

I think we all know that’s setting the bar fairly low

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 2, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Article FalconMF27 -- Recommended

Anyone who ignores all the valid points that you made in this blog is not thinking rationally.

by brdempsey69 on Aug 2, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

hmmm

Interesting thoughts but this could go round and round….DJ isn’t able to perform because the secondary sucks…Hali doesn’t perform because the NT doesn’t perform….Jackson and Dorsey have no secondary and no NT…Berry can’t perform because of the front 7….We have to be solid at all positions for players to reach their potential…nothing new here

by groundedchevy on Aug 3, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Bring in Romeo Crennel

His job is to stop the merry-go-round and put players in position to make plays.

Old guys rule...yeah you might have youth and talent on your side...but I have time and treachery...

by The G on Aug 3, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

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