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Chiefs Training Camp: New Right Tackle, Sort Of

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The Kansas City Chiefs have been mixing and matching guys along the offensive line recently. First it was Rudy Niswanger moving to right guard when Ryan Lilja was out on Monday. That caused Casey Wiegmann to take first team duties at center.

Now Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com reports the Chiefs moved defensive end Bobby Greenwood to right tackle. At first glance, he's a bit undersized at 6'5" and 278 pounds but maybe he could pack on a few pounds to man the position.

For now, Greenwood is an offensive lineman. He said that the coaches haven’t indicated future plans for him to move back over to defense, or even possibly play on both sides of the football.

"They’ve told me offensive line right now and that’s it," Greenwood said. "If they tell me to play quarterback, then I’ll throw the deep ball."

Maybe this is because some guys are banged up or maybe they see something in Greenwood. He played some offensive line on the scout team last year and Looney says he appeared to hold his own.

Whatever works, I suppose. If he can play both positions, that gives him a better chance at making the roster. The Chiefs are deep at defensive end but I do find it curious that, with the departure of Jeffrey Fitzgerald, that's two defensive ends they've "lost" in the last 24 hours.

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interesting...

he’s never shown much as a DE, IMHO… so, why not?

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2010 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Haley called him an athlete!

If you recall the punt catching video of the lineman, Haley called him an athlete! He looked good in the game against Atlanta at DE, he pushed the pocket much better than the other DL did and put pressure on several times, they had him at both DE positions, I thought he played much better than Magee! He also almost blocked one of the field goals that game, something he did well at Bama! The guy played the second most games in Bama history! You dont do that by being a dud…… As for his size he was listed at 278 last year and spent all year on the PS and offseason training program so he surely is bigger now, just so happens my girlfriend went to Bama with him and is good friends. She talked to him at the national championship game this year and said he looked to have gained 10-15 pounds! It seems they like him alot but the depth at DE is tough so if they can justify him playing more and being versitile as a DE,OL, and special teams then its easier to find a spot for him! As Mitch said “The more you can do”

by hotrodchevy1980 on Aug 18, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

PS

He looked pretty good blocking on kickoff returns, and this versitile thing could be the reason he has #74 this year instead of going back to his college #93 when it was available! Maybe there was a little forshadowing there……………….hmmmmm

by hotrodchevy1980 on Aug 18, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Been saying that Greenwiod is not KC material but...

I’d rather see him have a fighting chance at his natural position than try to fit a square peg in a round hole. The last thing this team needs is more position changes.

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 7:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

And save me the versitile bs

Players shouldn’t be going from d-line to o-line

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 7:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I imagine he prefers this over being cut...

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 17, 2010 7:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

kinda like

when boomer grigsby became a FB, huh?

by Flower_Power on Aug 17, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grigsby should have had a permanent spot on the Chiefs roster regardless of whether he could play or not.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Aug 17, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boomer

I actually hung out with Boomer when he was playing in Miami (preseason) and he seemed to think the position change had pretty much ruined his career. Hell of a nice guy.

Chiefsburger in Paradise

by KeyWestChief on Aug 18, 2010 12:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well,

That is shortsighted. Dline is different but at least its not a CB going to the Oline. We have to see. The coaches must love his work ethic and give him a chance to make the team. Plus this might be a special teams move. In the Chiefs we trust.

by PSUkegreen on Aug 17, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will give you a little desperate.

I really just want the best 53 from Offense to defense and the forgotten Special Teams. But it might be desperate or me being drunk with a glass 1/4 full due to me drinking it instead of watching it sit who does that.

by PSUkegreen on Aug 17, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't heard of this very often at the pro level

Maybe they’re sending a message to O’Cal…..

“Seriously, anyone could’ve done better than you on Friday. Anyone.”

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 17, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that message would be correct.

What an all-around pathetic showing that was.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Aug 18, 2010 4:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

well...what about jason shirley? he had to do it...either you make the change or you go play in the UFL

lets face it, this isnt exactly the most LB stacked squad in the league

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 18, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

im not surprised

about the DE losses. we have dorsey, jackson, magee, and gilberry. not to mention shaun smith taking reps at the position, too. I honestly don’t think any DE’s other than them make the roster.

by Flower_Power on Aug 17, 2010 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

ha, I was just typing pretty much exactly the same comment.

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

great minds think alike, stag.

and obviously, we’re geniuses. roster specialists.

by Flower_Power on Aug 17, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

absolutely

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You wait much longer on your 53 post

and the Chiefs will already have done it for you :)

Ninja Ass

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 17, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, maybe then I'll get more correct :)

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh, come on now, steve.

didn’t you know that pioli calls me to double check his decisions?
Who do you think told him to pick up Berry?

by Flower_Power on Aug 17, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mel Kiper told him

Sorry to burst your bubble man

*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
**And the home....of the....CHIEFS!
***"I just blue myself." -Tobias Funke

by mistamic on Aug 17, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mel Kiper loves to listen to Mel Kiper

*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
**And the home....of the....CHIEFS!
***"I just blue myself." -Tobias Funke

by mistamic on Aug 18, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can almost hear Haley:

“O’call! You sucked so much last Friday we feel that a converted DE can play better! You wanna lose your job to this guy?!”

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 17, 2010 7:57 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Very well could be a some feigned desperation on display

Just as a lil motivation for O’Cally.

The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.

by ArrowSpread on Aug 17, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, he's the same size as JaMarcus ...
“They’ve told me offensive line right now and that’s it,” Greenwood said. “If they tell me to play quarterback, then I’ll throw the deep ball.”

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by upamtn on Aug 17, 2010 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I pray this isn't the manifestation of one of our worst fears...

Desperation on the O-line.

Why am I unimpressed?

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Aug 17, 2010 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

It probably has more to do with they like Greenwood's attitude and work ethic and see some potential in him...

But they aren’t likely to keep 6 DEs on the roster.

Just giving him a chance to see if he can make the team elsewhere.

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 17, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh my god, I had forgotten about him

Chris Terry – now there is a guy who doesn’t belong in the NFL.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Aug 18, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hehehe

Chris Terry. Wow. Although I’m not sure how this guy beats him though.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Aug 18, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I liked how Brown looked over there

the other night, we’ll see how he fares against TB. I’ll tell ya, if there is a team that will expose our o-line weaknesses it’ll be Philly

by RamX21 on Aug 17, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Sometimes you feel like a nut..

sometimes you don’t.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Aug 17, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

probably still camp fodder anyway

just another body for the line

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2010 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

So

The right 53 is actually the right 45 on gameday and 8 practice squad guys?
or are inactives counted different?

Ninja Ass

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 17, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's 53 plus PS

so, the right 61

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?

by stagdsp on Aug 17, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, swear that they were talking to him bout playing Oline way back in spring

In fact I think I saw the report on this very site.

Can’t find it now, but he was doing some charity work and mentioned that he’d be willing to do anything to play, and that the coaches were even trying to get him to look at playing oline.

by tebunker on Aug 17, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I remember the part about him doing whatever was needed

but I don’t remember any mention of him playing O-line.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Aug 18, 2010 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

But the O line has taken well to the Zone blocking scheme.
Bill Maas thinks Dorsey is fine and Jackson just has an issue with reading the footwork of the offensive lineman. I thought it was interesting that Dorsey talked about Patience. seems maybe the two gap D-lineman need to patiently wait for the Offensive lineman to declare intent on the play. Then the Defensive lineman has to counter the move, like dancing maybe.
Bill Maas was converting from the 4-3 DT to 3-4 DE for Bil Cowher. He said the light clicked on in a game versus the Lions and Cowher saw it click on. Maas had a couple of sacks and just dominated the line once he understood how much fun a 3-4 End could have. (paraphrasing)

Ninja Ass

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 17, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

do i even have to call....

no homo on that statement HIV? I think we did the right thing in the draft. We drafted speedy playmakers while we were drafting high in every round. next year when we are drafting in the middle of the rounds we will build our o line and NT.

by wren42 on Aug 17, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe in their method, there were a lot of holes, a LOT, and still are, so they plugged the holes with the players they liked best...lets see how it pans out

we spent two top 5 picks on defensive lineman, there is hope that they, along with Albert on the OL, will be great.

Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt

by SDChief on Aug 18, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, why the freaking out???

There is nothing wrong with trying a guy out at a different position, even if it is to the other side of the ball. In Greenwood’s defense, this is better than getting cut. If the Chiefs see something in him as a future OT, then let them work with him.

Sure this is the NFL, but you see this type of thing in the college game all the time. You see a lot of DE’s converted over OT there. Take in for example the two best LT’s KU has had were converted DE’s… Anthony Collins who is now playing for the Bengals and Tanner Hawkinson who was a Freshman AA (RS FR) after starting out at TE, then DE, and finally at LT all in a span of one red-shirt year and a off-season.

Greenwood might be a great prospect to put on the practice squad. If he is 278-pound now, there shouldn’t be a problem getting him up to or over 300 pounds by next training camp. In the mean time let him keep learning the position technique wise.

Haha, I guess I should close in saying I’m not surprised HIV is crying about this… then again it is constant thing.

by ChiefMojo on Aug 17, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Jebus Mojo!

Everyone knows your football position is recorded on your birth certificate. You can’t play out of position. Everyone knows that. Looked at the long list of failed attempts. You could also look at the long list of successful conversions but that doesn’t matter because ultimately they are just playing out of position.

Left Tackle is Brandon Albert's natural position.

by Idahochief on Aug 17, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or maybe they played the wrong position BEFORE the switch.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 18, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

The one thing I wanna know is this...

Does this Greenwood kid have any experience as an offensive lineman? If he does have experience, how did he fare?

*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
**And the home....of the....CHIEFS!
***"I just blue myself." -Tobias Funke

by mistamic on Aug 17, 2010 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Arrested development

Mistamic i think that is the first time i read your signature. My wife and I just recently watched all three seasons of AD too bad they didnt get more seasons, i really enjoyed it.

by wren42 on Aug 17, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

AD is probably my all-time favorite show

Tobias is hilarious. Best lines….
“Don’t leave your uncle T-bag hanging!”
“Now you’re mocking me you selfish cun….try music loving lady!”
“And secondably I know you’re the big marriage expert. Oh I’m sorry I forgot. Your wife is dead!”

*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
**And the home....of the....CHIEFS!
***"I just blue myself." -Tobias Funke

by mistamic on Aug 17, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great show, stoked for the movie

"Now you’re mocking me you selfish cun….try music loving lady!"

However that is a blatant knockoff of a early 90’s NOFX lyric.

by craig in calgary on Aug 17, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes:
He played some offensive line on the scout team last year and Looney says he appeared to hold his own.

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 17, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that makes me a little happier

*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
**And the home....of the....CHIEFS!
***"I just blue myself." -Tobias Funke

by mistamic on Aug 17, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately that's the only time he's played RT...

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 17, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't a clue

Did Brian Waters have any experience at Guard when Dallas moved the prospect TE Brian Waters to interior O-line?

Ninja Ass

by Steve_Chiefs on Aug 17, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess that saying is true: you learn something new every day

*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
**And the home....of the....CHIEFS!
***"I just blue myself." -Tobias Funke

by mistamic on Aug 17, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm actually 24

How did you know that? Did my fiance share that with everyone? Crap!

*When we blitz, have the LB's do a KC Strip. Do this in remembrance of DT.
**And the home....of the....CHIEFS!
***"I just blue myself." -Tobias Funke

by mistamic on Aug 17, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice...

I was thinking that Waters played along the the DL in college at some point as well (did for sure in HS), maybe not, but I did remember he was a convert. Obviously a great and rare story. Not really a big deal guys, Bobby Greenwood probably isn’t going to make the team anyways, so if he can do it at a position that’s a huge ? then great. If he can’t, oh well, it was a longshot anyways. I think this move also speaks to the coaching staff being comfortable with Dorsey, Jackson, Gilberry, Magee et al.

by lateralus8 on Aug 17, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i always thought that if he really wanted to waters could convert in to a good defensive linemen

not saying we should do it. but its just something to wonder about.

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3. Moeaki will one day be a star tight end
2. This will be DJs last year
1. Chiefs will go 8-8

by BEEf_CHIEF on Aug 18, 2010 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the post-draft look-up on Colin Brown revealed a history of DL.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 18, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey guess what...

Family Guy is now on Netflix’s watch instantly. Huzzah!!!

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Bobby sure has grown up since hs


"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.

"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."

by Matt_Grbac on Aug 17, 2010 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Man, I hate those undershirts

all the Chiefs players wear in their photos. Looks like they’re trapped in the early 90’s. I bet at least half of them are wearing Zubas too.

by 1kmilesfromkc on Aug 17, 2010 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

This might work out well

I recall a guy by the name of Mark Bortz who was an all-Big Ten DT and drafted by the Bears back in the early 80’s. They turned him to OL and he was an anchor on the superbowl team. They always talk about wanting a guy with an attitude and a mean streak, that they make the best OL, and maybe he has it. Interesting thing to watch.

Wasn't Haley the screaming SOB supposed to have alienated the whole team by now? Something's wrong here...

by Zodeman on Aug 18, 2010 5:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Another half-measure at OT, when I was hoping for a full measure back in March.

On the other hand, we saw that Jamaal could average 5+ behind last season’s line. I don’t like going RB or QB before OL, but looking to compete sooner, rather than later, adding Dexter McCluster DOES give them a good shot at keeping some lightning on the field at halfback for a full season (+ postseason?).

I’d just prefer to see the team build focus on the trenches and the perimeter, to give a solid read on the QB, RB, and LB positions. In NFL history, there are all too many Heisman winners, in particular, that go bust for reasons beyond their control. Yeah, it’s great to have a tough couple of scat backs who can make somethin’ outta nothin’, but history suggests that those kinds of guys don’t last long in this league, if the OL doesn’t give them somethin’.

IMO, that was the gamble on Cassel, too. Get a QB who can survive behind sucky OL, while you slowly apply your system approach to long-term prosperity. I WILL say THIS for Pioli ‘n’ crew. They didn’t follow this strategy with unproven college prospects, but went with Cassel AFTER he hung in through the New England OL re-tool in ‘08. They didn’t draft a backup lightning (McCluster) until Jamaal showed HE could hang in through 11 games, at least.

So, I respect the wisdom of mgmt, to date, although I’ve parted ways with them numerous times on their sequencing in the rebuild. I haven’t seen anything as glaring as Grbac/McGlockton or the failed good-old-boy network in force during the Peterson era, but then Carl built the Chiefs to respectability pretty quickly, himself. It was getting over the top that was the problem, and the entrenched beaurocracy that needed to be turned over and wasn’t.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 18, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

So, in other words...

Business as usual. Put butts in the seats…

by 12t on Aug 18, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not if they're also addressing OL in an orderly fashion.

But, in the sense of competing sooner (as well as later), yeah.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed T Tyler Eastman playing some DE against ATL, also.

"I ain't lyin' 'bout nothin'."
"Oh? So what exactly are you lying about?"

by hmills110 on Aug 18, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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