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Tampa Bay Bucs Getting Ready For Blackout As Kansas City Chiefs Come To Town

Back in the day, even though they were in a small market, the Kansas City Chiefs were a good draw at visiting stadiums. In the 90s, they were a perennial playoff team which would help draw folks to visiting stadiums. In the first half of the 00s, they had that high-flying offense that folks wanted to see.

These days? Not so much.

The Chiefs are visiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Saturday and it appears the game won't be televised locally in Tampa Bay.

The St. Petersburg Times says the Bucs are "likely" facing a blackout this weekend against the Chiefs.

For Chiefs fans, you may have to face the reality that this could be happening in Kansas City soon. It's too soon to tell if the Chiefs will sell enough tickets to the final two preseason home games for them to be televised. The Chiefs are lucky, though, that two big name teams -- the Eagles and Packers -- are coming to town.

Selling out the Monday Night Football opener shouldn't be a problem but it's possible the Chiefs see their first blackout of the year before that.

I'm not trying to be doom-and-gloom here. I'm just looking at things realistically.

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It's sad that blackouts are happening so frequently.

I wonder if the Chiefs cut down the price for parking in half, how much more fans that would bring to the stadium. I don’t have to worry since I have season tickets, but this is the first year I’ve had them. Last year I was really disappointed in the blackouts, but I couldn’t afford to go to the game. Minimum $57 ($35/ticket + $22 for parking). Parking is just ridiculously priced.

Chiefs Will

by Chiefsdad on Aug 17, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Honestly

I think it’s less about the price and more about the product. If the Chiefs were a winning team, that stadium would sell out without a doubt.

The prices suck, yes. I won’t deny that. But it wouldn’t be a problem if they were winning.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 17, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree

A winning team would sellout. But right now they aren’t, I was just trying to think of ways to avoid any blackouts while KC is still mediocre. Once we return to glory, we won’t have to worry about that anymore.

Chiefs Will

by Chiefsdad on Aug 17, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

stomp the Chargers guts out on Monday Night

and you will likely see a packed house the rest of the year.

The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.

by jrcnc on Aug 17, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

sad to say

but yes that is more than likely what will happen

The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.

by jrcnc on Aug 17, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

They better win that game

The entire franchise is on the line..lol jk

by Christopher Gossage on Aug 17, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

They will hold the fans attention for a while

but when the holiday season comes, and people are strapped for cash, its freezing cold outside, and you really don’t expect them to win, that is when I could see the stadium emptying out again.
If they come out and beat the Chargers on MNF, and then carry that momentum throughout the season its going to keep people coming back. We have to regain our homefield advantage and a damn good way is to start Monday Night.

The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.

by jrcnc on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

when? not a lot of faith put in the team huh?

why be a fan if your ALWAYS negative? I understand having doubts but seriously

Chiefs Will

by tomahawk44 on Aug 17, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw first hand what the Chargers did to us last year...

I don’t think adding a safety, slot WR, and nickle back is going to change the outcome this year. Chiefs win 6 or 7 game this year, game 1 will not be one of them

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny

The Chargers lose players, including their best WR and LT, are on the road, notorious slow starters, have no run game established, and made no improvements to a middle of the road defense save for a 5th round NT. yet the will “spank us”?

See, just complainers (although I’m sure he will say he’s a “realist”, which means he doesn’t have the balls to put his expectations above his ass)

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

10-25-2009 Chargers @ Chiefs – 7-37 loss
11-29-2009 Chiefs @ Chargers – 14-43 loss

Outscored by 59 points over two games.

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look closer

10-25- Vincent Jackson – 5 rec. 142 yds., 1 TD
             KC – No sacks

11-29 – LT- 2 TDs
              KC – No sacks

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gates and Sproles

With no VJax, Gates will be doubled now. Sproles is always tough to cover, so we’ll see. rivers is a great QB, but without the staple covering his blindside, and the go to receiver that VJax was for him last season. If you don’t think that will make a difference in the games, then again, you can’t be told anything that you won’t turn negative and complain about

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most of the margin in those losses were due to unforced turnovers

Like Rudy snapping the ball over Cassel’s head (twice, I think).

San Diego is the better team, but if KC avoids the stupid crap it’ll be a close game and could go either way. Don’t forget a horrible KC team lost by a combined 2 points a year earlier.

Predictions:
This year will be better

by jmcgoblue on Aug 17, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

'Most'

Of the 59 points?

I think SD is very beatable this year, but question that judgement.

by kcsno56 on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Forget how much better we looked playing Denver

On the last game of the season…

We can beat them and if we do, it shall be a glorious day!

by Christopher Gossage on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

People like HIV

For every 50 positive fans, ready to put faith and hope into a good team, there is 1 negative fan that no matter what, they think the worst. If we win 8 games, they say “well, we didn’t make the playoffs”. If we make the playoffs, “we didn’t win the superbowl”. If we win the superbowl, “we won’t win it next year”. If you give them a million dollars, “I didn’t get 2 million, though”.

It’s pointless to even try to reason with them. They are complainers, best to ignore the complaints

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

And then there are people who have unrealistic expectations...

and by week 6 are calling for the coaches head because they have become dillusional about how good their team should really be.

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unrealistic to expect improvement?

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

6-7 wins is improvement.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Aug 17, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

So then you are expecting improvement

Why then all the negativity, complaining, and downright d-baggery all the time?

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say the d-bags are the ones convincing themselves that...

this is a 9-11 win team. 2 wins is an improvment but not exactly something to get a hard-on over.

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

but it's something to feel utter hate towards?

Many fans understand that while this isn’t a playoff team yet, we are improving, and 6-7 wins is an improvement. Many fans believe your boy, Cassel, won’t be Manning or Brees, but he can put up top 10 QB numbers, but he should improve from last season.

IMPROVEMENT is all we are expecting, not unlike you. What does it matter how far or how little the improvement is?

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

may I ask why you hate Lance Long?

I dont want him on the team but Im just wondering why the hate?

Chiefs Will

by tomahawk44 on Aug 17, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look at his picture and username

I’ve said it before, he’s someone who revels in negativity, with a picture of a person getting a serious injury, and wishing a disease on another person. Hate is what he does

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Weren’t you the one telling people to ignore him?

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Aug 17, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

So do so, if it compels you.

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

You should really ignore people before you start taking personal shots at them.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Aug 17, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Calling him a hater?

it’s not a personal shot if he’s putting it right there in your face. That’s like looking at a woman’s breasts when they are wearing a see through shirt

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh I know H2E

we have had our disagreements many of times and he has rubbed me the wrong way many of times but he is being pretty civil today and not telling me to get fucked so I can deal with him

Chiefs Will

by tomahawk44 on Aug 17, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes

You just got to point out the obvious, the hypocrisies, and lower yourself to their level.

Just sometimes though.

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, a bit arrogant, huh?

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Aug 17, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, just a "realist"

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boy stop!

How about you give yourself more than 4 months before you rush to judgement?

I shower plenty of praise on my Pac10 ballers. Sanchez, Rey Rey, Mack Truck, Unger, Pat Chung, the list goes on and on.

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quit hijacking threads

Dont forget Dennis Dixon

I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave

by ArrowDread on Aug 17, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Child Please!

lol, there you go again. I clearly have no right to speak my mind b/c I have only been a part of AP for 4 months, huh?

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Respect the elders

I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave

by ArrowDread on Aug 17, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The way some see it...that's correct.

But, those people are the minority here.

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Aug 17, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because a lot of them have been run off.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Aug 17, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

From what?

If the Chiefs win on MNF, I'm not changing my underwear until they lose
"I'm not superstitious. I'm a little-stitious"-Michael Scott

by FalconMF27 on Aug 17, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna send ALL of you to your respective rooms for a "timeout" if you don't play nicely

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Aug 17, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

But, but...he started it!

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Aug 17, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can see where you are coming from H2E

I did see how bad we got destroyed by SD last season and I know that people have unrealistic expectations..after saying that I do think we will make this a game and not get spanked. I do not know if we will win but I think with the Chargers being without VJ and Marcus McNeil and Arrowhead being packed again this will be a different game then what was played last season

Chiefs Will

by tomahawk44 on Aug 17, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was at that Chargers game in KC last year.

It was not pretty. But not considering last year, the Chiefs usually play the Chargers pretty close. However, last year they got creamed both games. So I’m not sure what to expect.

Chiefs Will

by Chiefsdad on Aug 17, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't often side with you H2E

but I worry about people’s high expectations too. I’m predicting 7 wins this year, but think there is a good chance we start out 1-4. Do we have a chance against SD? Yes. Should we be expecting to win? I’m not sure I’d go that far.

"There is no charge for awesomeness" - Kung Fu Panda

Kool Aid Rocks!!!!

by KCporkchop on Aug 17, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am a total fan

But I am also realistic. I agree with HIV. I think that we have a chance of making a optomistic 10-6 run to the playoffs, but the Chargers were a much better TEAM overall. Their LB, O-line, D-line, and WR were all better than us. Yes, I am going to be chearing for our team more than anything, but it will be a really hard game to win. With them losing their #1 WR and LT makes it a close game that will be winable if we have some things go our way. Realist, but still a big fan hoping for the best.

Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!

by fleetmarine on Aug 17, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wont be one of them I just dont think we will get spanked..thats all

I think we are a max 8 win team and Im iffy on that … I just think that it will be a good game

Chiefs Will

by tomahawk44 on Aug 17, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

there were a lot of fans that threw in the towel after the 1rst drive by atlanta.

Emotions are involved and sometimes that makes people overly optimistic and sometimes makes people’s emotions very volitile. Understandable. People feel let down. I have a realistic goal of 6-8 wins. But am hoping for 10.

Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!

by fleetmarine on Aug 17, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a Chiefs fan, I've grown accustomed to feeling down

Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present...

by Randy5225 on Aug 17, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

But I would never change teams.

Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!

by fleetmarine on Aug 17, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

It just makes those few wins a year feel that much sweeter!

Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present...

by Randy5225 on Aug 17, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

completely agree

I also want to give a shoutout to AP. I am currently in a conference to learn new Cerner software that I already know and am just sitting here on AP

Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!

by fleetmarine on Aug 17, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fake fans

KC needs week one, if we win that game it could set the tone for a playoff run, if we lose…. Well, I’ll be here.

by Christopher Gossage on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Throwing in the towel after week 1....

they would not be true Chiefs fans. The true fans are those that have been there through bad times & bad……I mean good and still proudly wear the Arrowhead with pride while being belittled by other teams’ fans. phft.

those of us that are true to our team will still be here even if at the end it’s yet another losing season….

by HeatherChiefsLvr on Aug 17, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

don’t say that …

another losing season

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Aug 17, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i said "even if"

I’m of course always hoping for the best. I WANT BRAGGING RIGHTS DAMMIT! :)

by HeatherChiefsLvr on Aug 17, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey H2E

You changed your “when” to “if” there!

Did someone spike your drink with a little Kool-Aid? :)

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Aug 17, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean if...

You fucking Charger fan in disguise :)

"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"

by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 17, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree 100% with Joel.

People will pay to see a winning / competitive team. But as the season rolls on, and a team isn’t winning…that’s when a lot of people lose interest. And the blackouts come.

10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.

by Scott B. on Aug 17, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Eagles game

but I would figure the Packer fans to be out in full force. If they can draw 60,000 to their scrimmages, some of them are going to make the 10 hour drive to KC.

The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.

by jrcnc on Aug 17, 2010 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

They're lucky that last preseason game is the Packers for all the reasons you listed...

Because the fourth game is usually a dud where starters don’t even play or if they do its maybe one series.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Aug 17, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

if it was Chiefs vs. Rams as it has been in the past

likely blacked out.

The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.

by jrcnc on Aug 17, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blackouts

It is okay to look at things realistically ; evry once and awhile.

by 65tosspowertrap on Aug 17, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree with Chiefsdad

I have always wanted the organization to not charge full price for things during the preseason. I mean or course merch, food and beverages can stay the same. I know its about the product, but you can almost bet that at least a half of the game is going to be played with players that aren’t going to make that much of a contribution to the product in the regular season.

by zyker on Aug 17, 2010 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Headline should read....

“Krayfish getting ready as Chiefs come to town”

I'd rather be a free man in my grave than living as a puppet or a slave

by ArrowDread on Aug 17, 2010 9:16 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I hope balckouts are addressed in the new CBA

They’re outdated and unnecessary. We have cities that are held hostage by owners until they get a new, publically financed stadium. It’s a crock of shit that the NFL will then go and blackout games. I understand why they have them, but they were instituted in the time before huge TV deals and it’s time for the blackout concept to go the way of Lance Long.

by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 17, 2010 9:18 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed 100%

I was going to say the same thing. The blackout rule is really outdated. Every game should be available on television, especially to people who are paying a premium to view them (like NFL Sunday ticket). It just further demonstrates the greed of the owners that these blackouts even exist.

I personally don’t understand why the owners have the price so high to begin with. I believe they wll make more money with a full stadium, regardless of the ticket prices. I would gladly pay $15 to sit in the nosebleed section at a mediocre football game.

Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present...

by Randy5225 on Aug 17, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

yah, those publicly financed stadiums ...

but see, if a town allows a team to move elsewhere, then they don’t have to worry about a blackout … the team will be elsewhere, but the games WILL be televised

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Aug 17, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or at least take the blackout rule away for preseason games

I mean really, should we have to sell out a game at full price just to watch Tyler Palko throw passes on TV? It’s rediculous.

"There is no charge for awesomeness" - Kung Fu Panda

Kool Aid Rocks!!!!

by KCporkchop on Aug 17, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

wonder if the Enn Eff Ell powers that be and whomever it is that makes the rules about blackouts, etc ...

… has even the foggiest notion that not everyone can actually afford to go to a game … hate to say it, but it’s a bit expensive to head out to the stadium: ticket(s), parking, concessions … the Enn Eff Ell is pricing itself out of existence in the real world of many people (glanced at a jersey in some store the other day: $70 … for a glorified t-shirt, please! that’s a month of high-speed cable AND money leftover)

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Aug 17, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Very true

The NFL is getting very pricey. Season tickets are only affordable to those who take very good care of their cash. I used to make it a point to get to one home game a year, but realistically don’t know if I can afford it this year. They need to lower ticket prices, or lift the blackout rule alltogether

Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present...

by Randy5225 on Aug 17, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most of the time yes

But I did buy season tickets for the nosebleed section this year. I’m just lucky enough to hitch a ride with my grandpa who has a parking pass. If I had to add parking it would begin to get out of reach.

The tickets I got were “only” $250. Granted, a lot of people don’t have an extra $250, but I saved up money for awhile to get them. But I agree with you 100% that most things are getting way out of reach for most of us. But if you don’t mind the nosebleeds (which I don’t) $250 for 10 games is not too bad. You can even park outside the parking lot for free if you don’t mind walking.

Chiefs Will

by Chiefsdad on Aug 17, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

$250 buys a lot of diapers

but maybe when the boy starts poopin' in the toilet I can get some!

Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present...

by Randy5225 on Aug 17, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will be there live...

If there is any way to set up an instant update from my blackberry, let me know….

November 23, 2006. 1st and only trip to Arrowhead. That was a good day...

by florida chief on Aug 17, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I have season tickets and sold my pre-season tickets

I’m not ashamed to admit it, and don’t feel like any less of a fan for it.

I’ll be at all 8 regular season home games and at least one, possibly 2 road games.

The preseason is a complete joke/ripoff to fans. I don’t love the idea of an 18 game regular season, but if it means only having one preseason game, sign me up.

You hear a lot of people complain about the 18/2 proposal for the NFL, but you don’t hear season ticket holders who have been getting ripped off among those complaining.

I was ecstatic to get 2/3 of my money back for my preseason tix this year. Last couple years I only got half.

by kcsno56 on Aug 17, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

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