Chiefs Vs. Falcons Preseason: Todd Haley On Ryan Succop's Two Missed Field Goals

by Joel Thorman on Aug 14, 2010 11:00 AM CDT in 2010 Kansas City Chiefs Preseason

If you look at the stat sheet, Kansas City Chiefs kicker Ryan Succop did not have a good night. He missed two of his three field goals. A closer look, however, and you realize it wasn't as bad as it might seem.

His two misses were both 53-yard kicks -- hardly a guaranteed make.

"When you get into that position, that is just not going to be a high percentage kick," Haley said.

The first kick looked good and but bounced off the uprights. "The first kick looked real good to me," Haley said.

The problem is that on the second one they shouldn't have been in that position. Facing a 3rd and 6 from the Falcons 29-yard line, quarterback Matt Cassel took a six-yard sack forcing the Chiefs even further back for fourth down.

"The second one didn't look like he hit it quite the same way by any means," Haley said. He also expressed frustration at Cassel giving up that sack. "Those are tough positions to put your kicker in and I'm more disappointed we put him in one those."

"When you get out of that range," Haley said, "if you expect those all the time, you'll probably be disappointed."

While you'd like your kicker to hit at least one of those, it's hard to pin the entirety of the blame on him. Once again, some of it points back to the offense.

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Succop

He’s still the man.

by KChiefs58 on Aug 14, 2010 11:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions

It's still the preseason

Yeah he missed but the good news is he had the leg for both.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 14, 2010 11:10 AM CDT reply actions

Yea he only barely messed the first one

And like BAMF said he easily had the leg for both of them.

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by Scaryclouds on Aug 14, 2010 11:16 AM CDT reply actions

We might have to rely on that leg if the offense cant get some better

rhythm.

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#29 Eric Berry

by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 14, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions

ONLY FIRST PRESEASON GAME!!!

To many people are panicking about the offense not scoring after one preseason game. Our offense was vanilla to start with and we are still working out the kinks… it was the first real live action for the team. Should the Dallas Cowboys who many people have going to the Super Bowl out of the NFC panic because they aren’t scoring TD’s in the preseason yet?

The rhythm will come in due time. We looked much better than we did last year at this time.

by ChiefMojo on Aug 14, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Except for the part where I'm ''panicking'' I agree

I expected some better things honestly, it wasn’t a great showing by our first string offense. I expected some rhythm coming from camp and into the first game, but Cassel and company really did look lost. I havn’t seen the whole game yet due to the storms last night killing the sat signal, I’m going to rewatch it shortly.

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Aug 14, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions

This logic is a Paradox

I can use the same logic being thrown around with this "it’s just preseason" nonsense. Clearly, the play of Charles and McCluster is a result of 2nd tier defensive talent on Atlanta’s part. Obviously Arenas only has skills due to this not being a real game. There is no question our defense started to "get it" because Atlanta eased off. Do I need to continue?

We looked bad. I believe we’ll improve, but preseason IS significant to BOTH positive AND negative play. Our opening defensive and offensive series were bad. We got better, but we have a ton of work to do. If you don’t believe this, you are delusional. Will it pan out in the end? I will always believe so. Preseason DOES count – not wins and losses, but performance-wise these is no argument. None.

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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Aug 14, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions

"Obviously Arenas only has skills due to this not being a real game"

What logic are you basing that off of? How do you know Atlanta was easing off? About as vanilla of playbooks as your gonna see the 1rst preseason game. 2nd game gets a little deeper and 3rd is the “dress rehearsal”.

by KCinIL on Aug 14, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I am not attempting to explain that I BELIEVE that opening paragraph

I’m simply demonstrating the paradox of the logic behind “it’s just preseason.”

You cannot take ANY positives from the performance if you cannot also take negatives.

There WERE positives, no question. That said, we were BAD for ALL THE SAME reasons as last season. Preseason DOES matter.

I believe we’ll get better, but we WERE bad last night.

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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Aug 14, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

go take a look at the colts performance during 0-4 preseason, or the chargers before their 1-15 season 4-0 DOMINATING teams....

it really doesnt matter

they dont gameplan for these games…

you do realize all the names, sheffield, arenas, mccluster…ALL of them, are rooks…the others, charles, albert etc…under 25….

the fact is we’ve drafted a ton of busts, and NONE of them had a debut like our rookie class

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by SDChief on Aug 14, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Outside of the first two drives...

Outside of the first two drives, we moved the ball very well up until the 3rd quarter when Croyle threw the INT when we got into 3rd and long.

Again, you can’t expect the offense to be in rhythm the first pre-season game right off the bat. The only way that would have happened if we were playing a very poor team to start with that was not putting out pressure or were assignment sound.

Heck, the Falcons didn’t even throw the ball on their first drive… they just went with Turner. It is easy for them to look in rhythm until we made the needed adjustments for the 2nd drive of theirs. After that, they didn’t look any better than we did or in reality we moved the ball better than they did until the 3rd stringers started coming in during the 3rd quarter.

by ChiefMojo on Aug 14, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions

No reason to throw the ball on us

We have a decent secondary, and we can’t stop the run. I really hoped our defense could at least stop someone from running on us this year. I saw the same problems I saw all of last season. I agree we are doing better than we did last year but we only have one new starter on a horrible defense. Our young players should start to develop but lets be realistic. We are just a horrible team in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

by groundedchevy on Aug 16, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions