Chiefs Vs. Falcons Preseason: Three Players That Need To Show Up
by Joel Thorman on Aug 13, 2010 9:36 AM CDT
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PrintEveryone on the Kansas City Chiefs 2010 roster has something to prove. The starters from last year need to prove that they deserve to keep their jobs, while the rookies need to assure the front office that they made the right move and the newcomers need to show they've bought into the system.
I've picked out three of the players that I think have the most to prove.
Of course the starters will play a quarter -- probably 2-3 possessions -- so anything they "prove" will be a tiny sample size. But that won't stop us from making season-long predictions based on those 2-3 possessions.
Here are three players that need to have a solid start to the preseason.
I know, I know. He won't be play much and it's just preseason.
But there's a lot of pressure on this guy. With the addition of Charlie Weis and bringing back Chris Chambers and drafting Dexter McCluster, there aren't a lot of reasons he shouldn't play well.
But, if you're the quarterback, and you don't start off well, the fans can make it hard on you. I think it's very important that Cassel comes out and plays efficiently. Something like 7/10 for 75-100 yards in two first quarter possessions.
He can't flop because people will start wondering what's been going on all offseason. The Weis addition has been getting hyped up and now it's time to back it up. Even if it is just one game, or one quarter, first impressions go a lon way.
The early training camp reports on Bowe have been very positive. He's in shape, seemed focused mentally and has draw praise from a few folks in the organization.
Now it's time to put that to test. If Cassel is going to be successful in 2010, then Bowe's going to be successful. It's pretty much that simple.
Bowe has a LOT of doubters at the moment. It's important that he begins the process of proving them wrong tonight.
Dexter McCluster
As a rookie who has never played a NFL game, he has everything to prove. He's just a rookie but for a second round pick he's starting to get a lot of pressure on him.
He had a terrific camp and showed that in practice settings he has the potential to be lethal.
Now he's gotta translate that to the game.There are so many people who are training camp stars but duds in the regular season.
The Chiefs know the hype around McCluster is growing at a rate that, frankly, I would guess they're not comfortable with. So they've got an opportunity to reel him in or let him hit the field running and show why he's getting rave reviews.
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I think we've collectivly put way too much pressure on McCluster and have set the expectations far too high.
The three players that need to show up are Casshole, TJax, and any LB thats not named Vrable or Hali.
by HIV 2 Elway on Aug 13, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Tyson Jackson
Good one.
And yes I agree re: McCluster. Unfortunately there haven’t been a ton of guys taking the attention away from him.
by Joel Thorman on Aug 13, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
The Chiefs have to be tempted to limit his use just so the expectations don’t increase even more. It’s also not a good thing to have a rookie tearing it up and everyone singing his praises from day 1.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
we don't think that's the problem
“expectations” are far better to be managing (ask rex ryan) than a) a guy who doesn’t “tear it up” or b) a guy who gets exploded across the middle on his first full contact NFL hit and doesn’t get up.
Not saying Duster is either of those, just we won’t know until some other time try’s to make orphans of his future babies.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 13, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
If they are already confident in his abilities and can see, from limited use, that he “gets” the system I don’t see any reason to keep him out there as they might for other rookies just to get used to the NFL game speed. Todd Haley’s a Jedi Mind Master (or at least he thinks he is) so I’m sure he’ll figure it out.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Aug 13, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a good point
If he gets a few catches and looks comfortable right off the bat, that probably means they’ll pull him.
The Jedi Mind Master. I like that. Hopefully he’s half as smart as he thinks he is.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
yanno, Joel, I've been giving this some serious thought ...
… and it seems to me that if those 3 are the only players that show up to play we’re gonna be in some SERIOUS trouble out there …
11 guys on their Defense vs 3 guys on out Offense … not very good odds
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I would have to agree, HIV
I think the expectations for Berry are too high also. Let’s not put these guys into the Pro Bowl just yet. Give them some time.
And I’d like to see Cassel play quite a bit in the preseason, actually. I think he needs the work.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
once they are comfortable with where he is
pull him from the preseason, dont need him going down to injury again this year before the season starts.
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A-GREED
and correction
If Cassel is going to be successful in 2010, then Bowe’s going has to be successful.
Moreover, sorta snap (from 1 camp practice) – sorta ALL LAST YEAR – observation, if we haven’t figured out how to at least slow down the run this year is going to suck.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 13, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Very true
That’s why I think Jackson and Dorsey are more vital for our success than anyone other than Cassel.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Definition of insanity...
Doing something the same way over and over expecting a different result. Well boys and girls, we have the same front seven that was about the worst run stopping bunch in football last year. But now we have Romeo, so they’re supposed to be better? Why exactly? Is Romeo gonna suit up and play? I know the guy is smart and all, but Gunther Cunningham was supposed to be a genius too.
When we draft some dominant defensive players and bring in some solid free agents to bolster our front next year, we WILL be a contender! But right now, we have better offensive firepower and probably an improved O-line. But we have two rookie safeties backing up the same old weak front seven. I’m a realist guys.
Now let the “hater” comments fly in … 3…. 2 …. 1 ………
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
You're pretty much right
I’m not expecting that much improvement.
Again, that’s why I think a lot of our season banks on our DE’s. If they improve (as players their age and talent level SHOULD, but that’s not guarantee), then our front 7 will be better.
If not, like you said, Romeo can only make so much difference and it’s going to be a long year.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
We’re going to have trouble again this year stopping the run but I think a lot of the optimism for a young team can be attributed to player development. Having a lot of young guys gives people hope every year.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Aug 13, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very true
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
re: hater
Not at all.
It’s a pretty valid concern. We’re using mostly the same guys that largely attributed to us having the 31st ranked defense last year. Seems reasonable to be skeptical.
I’m still of the opinion that those guys are better than they were last year, have a very good DC that’s had a full off season to get these guys used to the scheme, and a full year of running the 3-4 in actual game time situations behind them.
I’m just optimistic that these guys are in a better situation than they have been, are better coached now, and have a secondary behind them that won’t continually give up the dreaded ‘big play’ that cropped up on a weekly basis last year.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Hope you are right
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
two words: ron edwards
not a good thing.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 13, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
one number: over 700 snaps
Hopefully he’s not asked to do so much this year. He’s simply not capable of it.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah he needs a capable backup
that goes without saying. I just hope Lokey can step up this year and give him some rest.
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by jrcnc on Aug 13, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But...
There are 4 first round picks on the front 7. And still young. I see your point…but let’s see what Romeo can do with these guys.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
Hmm...
Dorsey – Jackson – Johnson – Hali …..
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
DJ
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
Johnson=DJ there stags
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I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
by chiefsandcigars on Aug 13, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah I was wrong
I will never forget the Sims era, to me his ghost still haunts us, especially on days like today FRIDAY THE 13TH!
The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.
haha, oops
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
it's a reasonable question you bring up
But, you’re basing your evaluation of the front 7 off of ONE season… and that season was pretty much one long training camp…. a completely new defense in 2009, and over half of the defense was new to the starting line up last year…
so, I wouldn’t call it “doing the same thing over and over”… last year was year ONE of a rebuilding… you can’t give up before year TWO, scrap the whole thing and start over again.
there’s plenty of talent there, and they should finally understand their assignments on defense… so, this year will be a MUCH better indicator of what we have on defense
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
by stagdsp on Aug 13, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree
Now if Dorsey hasn’t improved, or TJ, or any of the rest, then we should start to hit the panic button.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with that.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
So your saying...
Coaching makes absolutely no difference?
by Sloehandman on Aug 13, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Where did you pull that from?
Are you a member of the media? This is how things get twisted when players talk to the media. lol.
Please read it again and don’t put words in my mouth.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
So what you're saying is...
That Haley was the second gunman on the grassy knoll
Scott Pioli feasts on the souls of abandoned children
And Romeo kicks puppies in front of the D Line to motivate them
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
by TRSChief on Aug 13, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Now....
Finally! Someone got exactly what I was thinking. Thanks TR!!!
But, you did forget the part about how the Chiefs helped stage the whole fake moon landing thing back in 69’.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Glad I could help clarify
Just didn’t mention the moon landing because that’s supposed to still be under wraps. It’s too dangerous to keep talking about it here.
They’re probably already watching us right now.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
hear that knock at your door?
ummm yeah you better run!
The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.
Whew! It was the pizza guy.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry.
I thought that one was public knowledge. Are we still keeping the Area 51 quiet too? Or can I mention how Carl Peterson was the one that shot down the alien craft?
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Well that one wasn't *supposed* to be declassified
But Teicher threw enough of a fit that Uncle Sam Pioli let that one through.
Prevent a much larger fire by setting a small one behind it, you know.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Man... just think.
How much fun could Mitch Holthus have with this thing if he made another one of him whacky ass video clips on the mother ship? I would pay to see it.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Loved the William Shatner one he did.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Not so much the Forest Gump one though.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Crap, the puppy part would motivate me out of sheer terror...
Of course, the odds of Romeo hurting an animal and not eating it aren’t that great.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
No twisting needed.
You basically said Romeo makes no difference unless he suits up. You also said “Doing something the same way over and over expecting a different result. Well boys and girls, we have the same front seven that was about the worst run stopping bunch in football last year.”
It’s pretty clear what your saying.
by Sloehandman on Aug 13, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Done with you. Hear what you will. But, you are not correct.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Your the one who said it....
I’m quoting you. Make yourself clear if you do not wish to be questioned.
by Sloehandman on Aug 13, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know I was being watched by the Words Police.
I’ll be more careful next time.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
you better
paying off those tickets are going to be expensive!
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LMAO!
Duckin’ the Law!!!!
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
And, no disrespect.
We are just having a little fun with it. Hell it’s teh final day of this loooooong offseason and we’re all a little whacky.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Rock on.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
The defensive front is...
The guys who need to step up.
by Sloehandman on Aug 13, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't take this the wrong way but......
I agree. lol.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Have a good one Sloe
Gotta get some work done today. Later.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
We all need this game tonight
So there’s something substantial to talk about, rather than hash up a lot of the same debates.
i’ve noticed everyone’s getting a little punchy… except me, of course. Being perfect, I’m immune the mood swings you mere mortals suffer from.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree Shane and, I have been saying the same thing for a while.
I will say this though, I think this offense is going to be lethal. Defense…ehhh, not so much.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 13, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Right on.
Just say the word Dexter, and my heart rate goes up about 10bpm! I can’t freakin’ wait to see him hit the open field.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Im just hoping
we have a defense that keeps us in games by limiting the big plays.
my 3
Bowe, DJ, TJax
IF those three guys show up this year, I’ll be a happy camper.
I have faith in Cassel, he’ll be at least “fine” if not better…
I think the rookies will be great, in time
But, improvement and consistent performance from the 3 first rounders I listed above will make a HUGE difference this year.
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
by stagdsp on Aug 13, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
agreed "in time"....thats the hardest part...
I just hope to see some flashes of why we drafted these players
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Team Colquitt
Tyson Jackson. He doesn’t need to prove he’s the next great D Linemen this season, but he does need to prove that he’s made some big improvements.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
Sigh...
There are a lot of players that need to prove their worth. That sucks. Hopefully we can start getting some answers.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
If Jackson can even make the jump
That Dorsey made from year one to year two (at least with regards to holding his ground), that would be huge for us.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Exactly. I’m hoping Dorsey has an Hali-like season this year.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
That'd be a bigger deal
Than any of our rookies IMO
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
All three of these are Offensive players
I would like to see some defensive guys show up tonight, namely Derrick Johnson, and the entire DLine.
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agreed
my concerns are definetely on the defense. that line, but actually most of all Im worried about Carr. Carr got lit up last year and it appears hes getting lit up in camp which to me defeats the (mike brown was the reason carr had a bad year argument)
McCluster will be fine
He won’t be a bust, I’d put money on it. Cassell has no where to go but up from last year.
I personally want to see DJ and TJax step up their game.
I'd out Berry over McCluster.
More $$$, higher expectations. As a full time starter he has a lot more to prove than DMC.
Berry was drafted to be the face of our defense, the key difference maker. That’s why we used a 5th overall pick on a safety. He’s expected to be out of the ordinary, he needs to prove it. Also take into consideration that he was expected to be NFL ready day one of week one. He needs to live up to his hype now.
To emphasize that… The great all time players tend to deliver in their first season: Derrick Thomas. Jared Allen. Brian Urlacher. Terell Suggs. Julius Peppers. The great defensive players tend to produce immediately.
I’m not saying Berry should be lights out in preseason, but expectations for this entire season for him are very high with me.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions
*put Berry over McCluster*
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 9:45 AM CDT reply actions
Gah... multiple fails.
I am ashamed.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
And you call yourself a writer...
Go fall on your sword.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
by ArrowSpread on Aug 13, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Hide his shoe laces
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Different subject...
I am worried Moeoki is injured already. I have a feeling we are going to have the ‘Curse of the great Gonzo’.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Fortunately his position isn’t exactly essential to the Chiefs success.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
I would say...
Every position is essential at this point in ‘the process’
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
I’d disagree. Of all the positions on a roster it’s the one that can be filled with mediocre players and not have much of an impact on the team.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
The Chiefs would disagree...
They would throw QB in the mix also
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Ha, yeah that may be true. I think Pope can play an adequate TE and the jury is still out on Cassel.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
Pope was average
I was fine with how he did. It’d be nice if Moeaki could upgrade but we had way bigger problems on offense than TE by the end of the season last year.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
he'll be fine
I think that if it were a game, he’d have been playing this week, but they are protecting him, since it’s camp.
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
with most players yes...
but with his history? Rookies should be playing.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Maybe Gonzo is cursed and Arenas knocks him out for the season?
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
dont worry
we still have all 9 feet of Pope on the roster.
The picture is a Chiefs pumpkin, yeah that is right a Chiefs pumpkin.
that is true...
I’d just hate to see another shitty draft pick
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Get used to it. The NE draft policy requires that at least one sub-par TE be drafted every year.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow. I'm sure glad he said 9 feet and not 9 inches!
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
And by the way Beast...
I think the quality of this Moeaki (sp?) pick is going to pleasantly surprise you.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree, if he's not harassed by injuries constantly
He’s been sharp in camp, and is a guy that can contribute right away.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope so, I was just poking fun at the Pats TE history.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Lol.
Me too. I thought RnG was the only one privvy to that info.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Not nearly as privy as your mom.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
A solid rotational option for Edwards or Jackson is all I’m looking for from Smith this season.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
Same here
Especially with Edwards. He was taking way too many snaps for a NT last year, especially one his age.
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Im going to say Smith is a supride cut this season..
I just dont think he has what it takes.. we will see but I do hope he can come out and help us
Chiefs Will
I hope he can cut it
it would be nice to have him give Edwards some rest here and there. If Smith is cut though, I expect he will be done with football.
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I'd be surprised if he was cut
He’s been playing pretty well from what I’ve read. And we’re just so short on big bodies up front, he’d have to really screw the pooch to not make the team.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Dexter McCluster can play in the NFL and will prove it.
He does not have to do so tonite. All this talk about managing expectations and not putting too much pressure on a rookie is nonsense.
"The Hammer"
I'm torn between wanting them to "save him" for an advantage
and throwing him into the fire so he’s more prepared for opening night.
I somehow doubt the Chargers will key on McCluster no matter what he does in the preseason, so I hope they give him some good experience starting tonight.
Plus, I REALLY want to see if he can do in a game what he’s been doing in TC!
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
totally agree
this notion of rookies needing to prove something in pre-season is silly. their rookies. they are expected to develop. the vets like dj, dorsey, bowe and cassel are the ones that need to prove something. however i will say for the chiefs to fulfill some of the expectations that some AP’ers have this year, the rookies will most definetly need to make a “tremendous” impact.
I think there should be some pressure on Carr as well.
He’s had a pretty subpar TC, and that’s saying it nicely. He needs to show that he can at least be average out there.
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It’s a hard position to judge in training camp. We’ll be able to get a much better idea of where he is after tonight.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
He showed up during the scrimmage
so hopefully that shows he can bring it on gameday/gameday type scenarios.
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You know, I hadn't heard how he did in the scrimmage.
So he was decent?
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Very true
One on one drills are much harder on a CB than a WR.
I just hope he’s learned to GET HIS HEAD TURNED. That’s all. That’s it. If he does that, we’re great at CB.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Most of his issues...
were in 1 on 1 drills yes? Tough drill for CB’s
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Hopefully...
With better talent around him, Carr will be better.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
It'll help having a S with speed back there that can give some assistance
And not someone named Brown that has less speed than anyone else on the field. Including Edwards (too mean?).
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
ever since berry was in the discussion as a potential draft pick for us, my first instinct was put him on Carr’s side. I really hope they do. Flowers is a shutdown corner, and berry could help plug the other side. teams would be more prone to run the ball with that line up in the secondary.
hopefully if not he is going to be getting picked on all season long.
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Damn it’s nice to be talking about a football game.
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by JComp11 on Aug 13, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No joke, and not debating one another on what's polite and what's not :)
I missed real football talk!
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
seriously this is a breath of fresh air
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AMEN BROTHER!
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup
Gonna be a long day at work. Ready for some kool aid and beers!
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
+1
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice to hear all the good things about Gilberry by the way...
If the starters are getting worked I mean, a little bit of depth will go a long way
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
If Gilberry builds on last year
They’re going to be forced to find a way to get him more PT.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
a catastrophe!
honestly it would be awesome and something we have all been waiting on for a long time.
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Just the thought
Of having some positions that are not only solidified in the starting role, but also have depth that are more than simply stopgaps / serviceable has me giddy.
Not that our DE situation is quite solidified in the starting role, with the young’uns still needing to prove that they’ve developed and earned their 1st round money. But if the Predator and Dorsey evolve into what they’re capable of, and Gilberry is coming in for depth and creating havoc on passing plays – I do declare, I may simply swoon.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
and only if Magee would come around
some of our 4-3 sets may look pretty dangerous.
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I haven't heard much about Magee
Does he still play for us?
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Apparently not well enough to be mentioned once
In any of the practice reports I’ve read.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I was getting at...
Nobody has said anything.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Im hoping he can still be coached up by Crennel
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Agreed.
Surely Pioli isn’t cursed with D-Line picks like the King was.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
I know we didn't really address the line so much
and hopefully that is because Romeo saw something and told them he didn’t need to draft/fix the line.
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Haha good stuff
And to be honest, I think there’s enough positional versatility there to play all of them if they all keep improving.
We’re in the nickel quite a bit, so if they all show decent improvement we could have a Hali/Dorsey/TJ/Gilberry line while we’re in the nickel.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I am interested in what they'd do with him, though
Do they play nickel D more often? Put him at OLB occasionally? Or sit Jackson a little more? Or Dorsey?
Yes, it would be a good problem :) and I hope we have it!
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Mix in some 4-3 looks
Sliding Dorsey inside and putting Gilberry on the edge? (And Tamba rushing that side as well – there’s a QB butt-clincher)
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
ha just replied that to you :)
I know Crennel said he wanted to mix in some 4-3 looks and that would be awesome if they all stepped up and we could run a devastating 3-4 and 4-3
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Hopefully a solid rotation
Keep them fresh to combat any mediocrity
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
Why?
Because a bunch of “fresh” mediocre players add up to one good one? I guess I don’t understand what you are getting at.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, I'm not expecting good...
I’ll take fresh players even giving us AVERAGE play after what happened last year.
I’ll take what SD got out of a rotation of average players last year. They weren’t good, but they were better than terrible.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinda
A bunch of fresh mediocre players is better than 4 tired mediocre players. I wouldn’t read into it too far.
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
I guess you got me there.
I guess it’s like trying to argue over a dull turd vs. a polished turd. In the end, you still have a turd. But one is shiny.
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Last year...
Very dull turd. This year, fresh turd. It’s a process. :)
What's the difference between jelly and jam?
The year after that?...
Mr. Hanky the Christmas Pooh?
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by ARROWHEADSHANE on Aug 13, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I think his idea is that a rotation of solid players can keep any one of them from playing mediocre
if someone isn’t playing well, there’s someone who can jump in and give them a boost
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
I'm looking at the defense tonight.
With training camp reports indicating that the offense is doing well, I really want to see Tyson Jackson and hell… maybe some DJ playing like they mean it.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Aug 13, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions
There's alot of pressure on us Kool Aid drinkers tonight!
Those of us that began predicting our team will have a complete turnaround this season, since about February, are either going to continue to preach our optimism, and maybe throw in some “I told you so’s” , or try to justify that it is only our first preseason game, and what does everybody expect? Fairly, or not, alot of people are going to judge this team by how the starting unit looks, early in the game.
I think Cassel is under the most pressure to perform, just based on him playing the most important position, and all of the shit he has gotten for being “overpayed”, and not being able to be an elite QB, without the talent he had in New England. As the old cliche states: " The Qb gets too much credit when a team wins and too much blame if they lose." If Cassel is off target, throws an early pick, and can’t lead the team down the field for a score, in one of his likely 2 or 3 possessions, then the critics will swarm in like vultures. And, I admit, I may go into seclusion until the next game, or commit myself to the local looney bin!
There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.
I'll reserve my kool-aid pressure for Week 1
Pre-season still is just that, pre season.
Opposing DC’s might be trying a few things out still, we may trying a few things out that aren’t “given” – it’s a test, but it’s not a true test.
Now when we’re playing our Monday night game vs the Chargers, and they’re going all out to prove that they’re still the team to beat in the AFC West, our kool-aid will be laid bare and up for judgement by all.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Very true
But you and I both know that it’s going to be massively disappointing if our 1st team offense goes 3 and out twice and then leaves the game.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
If they look like a high school team out there, I’ll obviously be concerned.
But if they just look average and have a little rust / few kinks, I won’t really put too much stock in it.
Now if they look rusty / have bad timing / miscommunications vs SD, I’ll be 10 shades of concerned.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Makes sense.
I guess my expectations are a little higher, with all the talk about how hard Cassel has worked this offseason. I see your point though.
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by MNchiefsfan on Aug 13, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I should probably clarify a bit
They’ve only had one squad scrimmage and practices / walk-throughs to this point.
So playing full speed full contact against another team provides a very different environment than they’ve seen thus far in the pre season. Especially considering all the rookies that will be seeing play time.
So this first preseason game probably won’t be completely indicative of what we’ll see come Game 1, as adjustments can and likely will be made by then.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
+1
I cant wait to see the NEW ARROWHEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Bleedzredngold on Aug 13, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions
My 3
Tyson Jackson- He needs to stop shuffling his feet and just hit hard. Push a guy off his feet. We’ll see what Romeo can do with him.
Derrick Johnson- He’ll have a little more playing time than the starters, but he needs to look at it as a way to prove that he deserves to be the starter once the regular season begins. So he’ll need to make as many plays as possible.
The entire O-Line- They need to show cohesiveness and be able to prove all of the naysayers wrong.
These are the people I’ll be looking at in particular.
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by R2J_24 on Aug 13, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Pressure is on the front 7 and the front office
To prove that their confidence in these guys was warranted. For all but a few, we’re talking about making some pretty sizable jumps in performance from 2009 in order to keep us out of the bottom 1/3rd of the league’s defensive statistical categories.
I have a feeling, based on his college game day play and his camp, that the only way they'll be able to avoid any attention to McCluster will be to keep him off the field.
I will be shocked if this kid isn’t a very successful football player in the NFL.
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