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Chiefs Training Camp: Players' Take On First Weekend

The Kansas City Chiefs have wrapped up the first weekend of training camp.

They've had a two-a-day and gotten used to the 2-1 schedule. Monday will be another two-a-day.

After Sunday afternoon's practice, a few Chiefs players talked with the media about their first weekend at camp.

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Javier Arenas

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I've said before Arenas has a chance to be one of the best rookies in this group. He's got the attitude the Chiefs want and solid skills. Nick Saban, his college coach, was once a pretty good defensive backs coach in his day. Saban and Scott Pioli worked together much earlier in their career.

Arenas says it was fun to get out into camp playing against his teammates. He said all of the change over the last few days doesn't bother him because he's used to distractions.

At one point someone asked about covering Dexter McCluster (a near impossible task at times) and he said, "Man, you know how good he is."

Branden Albert

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Albert looks in good shape which is already a head start over last season when he reportedly had to lose nearly 40 pounds.

He said his weight was fine this year so I imagine he'll be more productive in the early goings of this camp compared to last year.

"I'm working on all my weak points," he said. "I'm not gonna tell you what those are but I'm working on them."

Albert is the unquestioned left tackle. He has his hands full against Tamba Hali at times on the left side. That's one of the underrated battles so far in camp.

Glenn Dorsey

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"I feel like it's going to be a better year," Dorsey said this afternoon. The Chiefs now have Romeo Crennel watching over the lines along with who Todd Haley called a good up and coming coach in Anthony Pleasant. On Saturday, Dorsey said it helped that he had been a successful defensive tackle himself.

Dorsey also talked about Master Kim, who is coming in to help the Chiefs defensive linemen and receivers with their handwork.

On Sunday morning, Todd Haley said the players haven't yet seen the light at the end of the tunnel because they're only on day three. Dorsey echoed those thoughts saying, "We don't see a light at the end of the tunnel so we gotta grind."

Jamaal Charles

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So you're wondering how Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles are getting along?

"Me and TJ get like brothers," Charles says. "I look up to that guy."

Jones has been playing first team so far in camp though many expect the two to split a pretty even amount of carries.

Charles said he likes running the wildcat because ultimately he's a running back again. The Chiefs have given him looks during the first weekend of camp.

Jon Asamoah

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Jon Asamoah has seen some time at both guard positions but mostly on the right side. He can also play a center in a reserve role.

He said after practice that the NFL is about what he expected -- much faster and harder.

"Everybody's fast and everybody's good," he said.

Asamoah will have to wait in line for playing time while Brian Waters and Ryan Lilja are around. Those two seem to be the established starters. At some point, Asamoah will come in handy and ideally be ready to fill the role when Waters or Lilja leaves.

Jerheme Urban

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Urban compared some of his time in Kansas City to Arizona. While with the Cardinals, everyone knew Larry Fitzgerald had the top receiver job locked up. In Kansas City, Urban says, it's a completely open competition. He said that's what he's been told and what has been made clear to him.

Urban has a shot to make the team. Think about this: He's the tallest receiver on the Chiefs at 6'3".

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Alphonso Smith vs Dexter McCluster....cant wait....

McCluster will be very tough to defend and match up against. Can you imagine if we get him mismatched against a safety or LB?

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Aug 1, 2010 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

What time do the practice start in the morning?? I plan to be up there tomm. I’m excited..

by BALLard49 on Aug 1, 2010 9:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

8:50

Probably warm-ups for the first few minutes, though. But a good time to gawk at the players.

One thing to keep in mind if you haven’t already checked out the campus map- you don’t HAVE to pay $10 for parking. Most of the lots on campus are free, and about five minutes walk away from the pay lots.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 1, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

Thanks fellas! Can’t wait to show some support and hopefully get a ball signed up!

by BALLard49 on Aug 1, 2010 11:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice!

Did ya snag some autos??

by BALLard49 on Aug 2, 2010 12:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, I skipped that.

I guess I was kinda hot and cranky. But after reading Tomahawk’s post, I think I may swing by next time.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 2, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wha?

What was he sayin? Yeah, hott as hell out there..

by BALLard49 on Aug 2, 2010 1:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The best part of the practice

And really the best place to glean any useful information is the team period stuff. That’s usually the last half hour of practice or so.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 1, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

McCluster...steal of the draft?

he’s creating more excitement than Berry and other 1st rounders

by xchiefsx on Aug 1, 2010 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

So far through camp he is

I like what Kendrick Lewis said in describing him: “Jitterbug”

by Joel Thorman on Aug 1, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arenas

I saw Arenas get burned by Bowe. He didn’t look like he was having fun then. Bowe burns a lot of DBs…but Arenas definitely has some work to do, I think.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 1, 2010 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Arenas is ready

Bowe is playing very well lately but, overall, I think Arenas is ready for the starting nickelback job.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 1, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll reserve judgment on that.

Honestly, Arenas is the draft pick that I most worry about. I know that he’s a good returner, and I don’t doubt that he’s a very hard working, high character guy. In fact, I’ve several times compared him to Kevin Ross. But I saw him get beat by bigger receivers in college more than once. He might be a good nickel back, but I don’t think he’s going to be able to back up our number 1 or 2 CB spots for a good long while if ever. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 1, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was specifically drafted to be an inside CB, a nickle back, not be a #1 or #2 CB. I think it’s going to become a trend, a smaller, quicker guy to guard a smaller quicker guy like Welker, DMC, Desean Jackson, Harvin, etc. That’s the coming fad in the league, and if DMC is as good as I think he’ll be, it’ll only hasten it, so better get a guy that specializes in that kind of coverage, and is also a threat to blitz. We had one in Benny Sapp, but none since.

by dablueguy on Aug 1, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point about the blitz threat. I'd forgotten that.

I’m used to thinking of the #3 CB as somebody who can step in for the #1 or 2. I don’t see Arenas as somebody who can do that, not for awhile. But, like you said, maybe he won’t have to.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 2, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Having trouble.

I am having trouble finding players that aren’t going to be a mismatch against McCluster. In the words of one of my dear friends: He is going to McClusterf*uck plenty of defenses!

by zyker on Aug 1, 2010 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Watched McCluster in release drills.

One receiver against one DB trying to jam him at the line. McCluster was different from all the other receivers, because he didn’t really use his hands to get his release – he stutter stepped behind the line. Probably the only guy quick enough to pull that off. When the DB did get contact with him, though, he showed that he could push pretty hard. He’ll definitely be a handful.

The most encouraging thing I saw about him was that he has good hands. He was making some really good, lay-out type of catches. Unfortunately, he HAS to lay out for some passes that taller guys wouldn’t…and he missed some because they were out of his reach. But he still looked really good out there.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 1, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully...

Cassel doesn’t hang him out to dry to many times. They need to use this time to get on the same page. McCluster won’t do us any good sitting on the injured list.

by zyker on Aug 1, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's why I'm afraid of Cassel

who has shown inaccuracy in the past and will probably overthrow mccluster at some point

by xchiefsx on Aug 1, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I remember one interception in particular last year when Cassel threw a tall pass. It would’ve been perfect for Bowe…but he was throwing to Savage. I really hope last year was just a case of not being familiar with his receivers, and not something less curable like inaccuracy or nerves.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 1, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Albert having trouble with Hali?

I think it is great. He gets to practice against a great pass rusher every day during practice.

by Robert Chestnut on Aug 1, 2010 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Great analysis

Always glad to have an extra set of eyes out there.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 1, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aw, shucks. My first camp, I'm just there for the entertainment.

I had just as much fun watching Shaun Smith pick up and throw that poor french guy Jeanpierre into the backfield.

The path to Victory is made of losers.

by Brsrkr on Aug 1, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1 for the colorful commentary

Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.

by TRSChief on Aug 2, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice commentary... I hear Gretz is looking for a few good men to help with his newly platinum membership site.

Of course he can only make payments with O’Douls, if he really does well expect some peanuts on its way

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Aug 2, 2010 6:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly the stuff I want to read. recd

"The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong is to let him have his way" Josh Billings
Kansas City Chiefs - 2020 Team of the Decade

by skunk420 on Aug 2, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet the Broncos Man up Champ Bailey on McCluster

Just like they did Tony G. most of the time.

I just cannot decide how early to draft him in my Fantasy Football League. It is a keeper league, so it is an investment in next year…

by Skrappy on Aug 1, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

He won't go until late

Just keep an eye on him.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on Aug 1, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can get him late

i pick him up 2nd to last round in a 12 team draft alot of drafts are like that on him or he goes undrafted bowe goes late too both will be a steal

Eatin donkeys and shittin raiders

by arrowheadchop on Aug 1, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bowe is Definately on my Sleeper List

But I am a little gunshy after he killed me last year when I took him in the 3rd round…

by Skrappy on Aug 1, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh God I hope so.

Not only will McCluster still be able to get open but then, Bowe and Chambers will be single covered by Andre Johnson (is that right?) and a safety.

We will have a field day if they try that shit.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Aug 2, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

That should be it

Unless something crazy happens, BW is the LG and Lilja is RG. Good to see Asamoah preparing behind both.

by TXChiefan on Aug 1, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

Well, Waters hasn’t seen the field yet but, yes, he is a left guard.

by Joel Thorman on Aug 1, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

not sure about the last two days, but

I think daryl harris was there the first day

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by Chris Sembower on Aug 1, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Draft

Even though Berry was our first pick in the draft and will be good , Mccluster will be our gem of this draft, he will produce more for us than the rest of the draft class combined

by WRBCherokee on Aug 1, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Overjoyed...

by all of the news. I haven’t been able to keep up between work, school, and the kids, but I am always able to find myself a little AP time. I love all of the news from camp rolling in and appreciate all of you who continue. I cannot find the words to express how excited I am, which is the most I’ve been in close to 25 years. I sincerely hope all of this translates to the field and defense shows massive strides between last year and this. Keep up the good work everybody, much obliged…

2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...

by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 1, 2010 11:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Meant to say...

appreciate all of you who continue to contribute…

2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...

by kcchiefsfan72 on Aug 1, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

awesome

Joel, you are doing an awesome job but i would like to know how brandon albert and brandon flowers are doing thus far. thank you for what you do

by Connor Mangels on Aug 1, 2010 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously, when we drafted McCluster, I know I wasn't the only one that threw something and swore

And I was at work, lol. I’m seriously standing infront of the bar (I serve at a restaraunt called BJs, a sports bar) and I tossed my tray into the back when I saw we drafted a runningback.

I fumed for a few hours because I knew Golden Tate and Mount Cody were still on the board, and we passed them up. Once I got home and got on AP I calmed down. Now I’m ecstatic that we have him. He’s seriously the one I’ve got my eye on, I can’t wait to see him on the field.

This is some great stuff by the way Joel, thanks for going out there and sweating your ass off for us. Who, out of the whole camp, do you think is making the biggest impact so far?

by SoCalChief17 on Aug 2, 2010 3:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey Joel

did you see Vrabel taking Dorsey and Hali aside and working with them on Saturday? When the other D was on the field he was helping them work their hands

by tomahawk44 on Aug 2, 2010 8:17 AM CDT reply actions  

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