Football Outsiders Predicts The Kansas City Chiefs To Win The AFC West
by cvigz on Jul 9, 2010 12:40 PM CDT
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The Chiefs are getting some love from the football stats gurus at Football Outsiders. From the 2010 edition of the Football Outsiders' Almanac...
There are a lot of numbers in this book that will surprise readers. One of the most surprising, though, is the figure that stands next to the “2010 Mean Projection” line in the box on this page: 8.9. Our projection system suggests that the 2010 Kansas City Chiefs will win those 8.9 games despite winning a total of ten games over the past three seasons. It projects that the Chiefs will shockingly win the AFC West, giving them a home playoff game for the first time since 2003, when Priest Holmes was still in his pomp.
Some key points in the article...
- Schedule strength - The Chiefs have the easiest predicted strength of schedule out of all 32 teams (-9.1% DVOA).
- Elite running game - Jamaal Charles turned out to be an absolute stud (like FO predicted last year), and their running game only got better with the addition of Thomas Jones. Another factor is the improvement of the offensive line with the addition of Ryan Lilja and Casey Wiegmann.
- Healthy team - The Chiefs have been the 4th healthiest team in the NFL over the past three years (according to the FO adjusted games lost metric). Haley's conditioning program (and the influx of young players since 2008) has to have contributed to this.
- Addressed biggest weaknesses in offseason - FO picked safety as the biggest need on the defensive side and center as the biggest need on the offensive side. Both of these positions were improved over the offseason with the additions of Wiegmann and Berry (although Wiegmann is obviously a short-term solution).
- Stud players - FO picks Jamaal Charles and Tamba Hali as the biggest difference-makers for the Chiefs. They are projecting Tamba Hali to have a season similar to Elvis Dumervil's 2009.
- Weak competition in AFC West - San Diego is a one-dimensional team powered by a stellar passing offense which should regress to the mean (especially with the loss of Jackson). Denver went only 8-8 last year and has gutted their offense under Josh McDaniels. Oakland is, as always, Oakland.
I know it's still early, but it's nice to see the Chiefs getting some attention. I agree with pretty much everything they have in their article - it seems like we're on the right track.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Dammit! They stole my thunder!!
I’ve been saying this all along…..
...."I never said most of the things I said." - Yogi Berra
A lot of us have.
Holster that weapon, soldier.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
Who hasn't been saying this?
We will have two rookies on our squad sharing Rookie of the Year honors.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jul 9, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
so YOU were the one?
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
It's a bit of a "we suck the least" win, but I'll take it.
There’s no doubt in my mind San Diego and Denver are on their way down. The Raiders are getting a lot of credit for Jason Cambell and a “good draft?”. I think people are forgetting the formula to rank the Raiders:
+1 point per good off-season move
+1 point per passed-his-prime veteran they add
+1 point for whatever speed demon they drafted/signed
+1 point for their rabid fans on scare value alone
-1,000,000,000 points for Al Davis being their owner
Sum = -999,999,996
Dauntlessly Matriculating
by SoCalChief on Jul 9, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
This made me laugh really hard, I don't know why :)
It’s a bit of a “we suck the least” win, but I’ll take it.
We will have two rookies on our squad sharing Rookie of the Year honors.
by Chiefs_swagger on Jul 9, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Aaaand it's just been fanshotted on MHR.
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
Carefull with that
If the exact opposite happens, people jump all over themselves calling the poster a troll.
If it was posted to be insightful, thats fine…if it’s a “neener neener neeeeenerrrr” post, that’s kinda trollish.
I'm on a horse.
by craig in calgary on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, I'm not too worried
I’m just passing the message :-)
No harm in that, right?
The Chiefs will see a return to respectability in 2010, emerging as the front runner in the AFC West! ....And I'll quantify that however I choose. Ahem.
Now this is an awesome post.
This is what it’s supposed to be about. Optimism over pessimism.
And since the “outsiders” know more than the so-called “insiders”, it’s especially telling to me.
Nice job cvigz! We can use a lot more like this around here.
Rec’d.
"If I'd written all the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people - including me - would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism."
~Hunter S. Thompson~
I love it, obviously. Of all the sites to predict...FO is the one that I would at least put some value in. nice to see that some of us may not be drinking as much kool-aid as others think with 9 wins
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Haha sorry, I am not trying to be a dick but...
Of all the sites that predict the Chiefs season, you put some value in the FO because they predict the Chiefs will do well? If the same publication would have said they were going to win 6 games and finish 3rd, would you have still had the same opinion?
I'm on a horse.
by craig in calgary on Jul 9, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Because they have logic behind their analysis
Most others just go on their gut feeling. I’d bet that if you added up the win-loss predictions for a lot of sites, the total wouldn’t equal 256-256.
Predictions:
This year will be better
Not saying that they're right in their analysis
but it’s certainly more plausible than walterfootball’s saying the Chiefs are a 3-13 team because:
“Their overpaid quarterback is terrible; the offensive line can’t block; the defensive line is the league’s worst; the pass rush doesn’t exist; and the head coach is mind-numbingly clueless. Kansas City is easily one of the worst teams in the NFL, and because general manager Scott Pioli has dug this franchise into such a deep hole, it doesn’t look like things will improve anytime soon.”
Predictions:
This year will be better
I stopped reading that site long ago
because of stupid pseudo-analysis like that
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most all major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6?
I say we go 8-8 or 9-7 this year just because.
That’s just about as good as all the experts predictions, and those guys get paid big money. No one knows at this point about how the Chiefs will play this year, so my guess is as good as theirs.
Wait i have to change it to 8-8
I laid out my deck of cards on the floor, and Milo the dog in my avatar pic stepped on two 8’s.
Sweet :)
My Milo ate the dueces!
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
you know you can't keep a Jack Russell locked up
maybe he needs a ID Chip
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
We have one too.
Miniature. Shes about 10 years old though..and fat so, she aint as crazy as she used to be.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 9, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
My dog is crazy too, must be the breed.
He sleeps on a beanbag, and if you touch it when he’s asleep he comes up with teeth showing.
Man I miss is Priest.
I really hope JC is the next big deal.
While I miss Priest
I really miss Derrick Thomas. He was a master on defense. Its too bad that we never got to see what truly amazing stats he could have put up with a full career.
Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!
by fleetmarine on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone know what the track record is for FO's predictions of division winners?
Is FO reliable or should we ask Paul the Octopus to predict the division winners?
I was wondering the same thing.
This is either a big deal, or holds no water at all depending on that answer. ;)
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
They are about 25% better at picking spreads than Vegas.
Of course thats week to week.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jul 9, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Paul only picks for Germany's games.
Maybe we could get one of the sea lions at the Swope Park Zoo to make some Chiefs picks.
Okay, if Football Outsiders says it is, then it is so.
Let’s just hope they are right. That is why the Monday Night Football game on opening weekend is going to be of huge importance. If we come out and slug the best team in the division in the chops and send them home with their tail between their legs, we will have served notice that the new Chiefs have arrived.
"The Hammer"
agreed
we have to lay a hurting on SD that first Monday Night game and show the entire planet that the new Chiefs are not to be messed with!
Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.
The only problem with this logic is...
That SD has started the last 2 or 3 years really poorly then come on strong in the second half.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jul 9, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
but...
KC has started pretty poorly the last couple years as well.
It’s not so much about SD starting slow,
it’s more about KC starting fast and getting off to a good season
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most all major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6?
Not really...
KC has started bad and finished bad.
So if SD loses opening Monday night they can say… Yeah well we start bad and finish strong.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jul 9, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That's okay.
I don’t care as long as we get the W. We’ll get another crack at them later at their house.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 9, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
averagegatsby
You think maybe SD started out slow, because they tried to start out balanced and then just adjusted and went with the pass, because they could?
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
Who Knows...
But if thats the case its kinda dumb, because that means that everyone on the planet knew something that the Chargers didn’t… That LaDanian was done.
Could also be that all the preseason hype the get every year gets to their heads, then they realize they have their worked cut out for them, then get to work.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jul 9, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it was both OL and LT losing a step.
Sproles plus the new blood will give them more explosion from the RB. LT was at the point in his career where he should’ve shut up and given a little back to the OL that he really needed more from, in order to prosper.
I think SD’s been doing more on their OL than most of us are giving them credit for, and had a heckuva hiccup, but were on the up-tick with the likes of Vasquez. If they re-sign McNeil, and I expect they will, they might have a more balanced attack than anyone seems to think, at present. Rumors of their demise might be greatly exaggerated.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
mobile commenter question
Does anyone know who they predicted to take the afc west last year?
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by 808NaNz808 on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
They picked the Chargers, and...
…here’s a quote from BigBluShoe at “Stampede Blue” (Colts site) :
“…Part of the reason Tanier thinks the Chargers will do so well is their division: The AFC West. I take it you see a pattern developing, huh? The Broncos have blown up in the faces of Pat Bowlen and Josh McBoobhead. The Chiefs are in full re-build mode and the Raiders continue to exist in the black vortex of suckitude they have always existed in since Al Davis started making all the personnel and coaching decisions for the team again. If the Chargers do not sweep their division in 2009, they are underachieving.”
“Josh McBoobhead” I love it!
...."I never said most of the things I said." - Yogi Berra
nice! thanks jim
I was halfway expecting it not to be the chargers.. I’ve always founf FO to be… interesting to say the least.
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by 808NaNz808 on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Welll sounds like they were spot on...
The Chargers are underachieving, and won the division, but pretty much everyone knew both of those things were going to happen.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Josh McDaniels is his name people, lets show some respect, and maybe we'll get some in return.
No matter who you or i feel about him as a coach, name calling gets us nowhere, even if it’s about another post from another blog.
It’s a little overly optimistic to me, but that’s probably just the crushed expectations of the past few years speaking. Man I hope we do just as FO predicts, I’ll take a winning season, a division title, a playoff appearance, all of it. It’s been way too painful rooting for our Chiefs, its time to get some return on our emotional investment.
Well the national media doesn't know what they're talking abo...
Oh, wait. They picked KC to win? Well these guys obviously know what they're talking about.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions
Here take one of these. It makes everything all shiny and wonderfull! Like unicorns!
Look! Easy to Open On the Go packets!!! So conveniant when you are feeling down. )=
Word.
by BigRedChief on Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha.
You guys like how I’m coming back down to earth as the season approaches. I told ya’ll I was just having some fun during the off season. Now it’s time to start winding down and being more optimistic. No more 19-0 predictions from me. I’ve toned it down to 14-5.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 9, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
More realistic... not optimistic.
Hey I’m in transition, leave me alone.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Purple Drank is what makes everything shiny and wonderful
Kool-aid merely makes everything rose-colored
We can't stop here, this is bat country!
Snap the fucking ball Brodie!
by jakethesnake27 on Jul 10, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I knew it finally had to happen
The proverbial feline is out of the proverbial duffel. Can you hear the bell ringing? This is the pebble that starts the avalanche. Within weeks, we will have more Chiefs fans than there are grains of sand in the desert!
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Look there goes San Francisco :)
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Roger that Savoy Charlie
Lay everything you got in on my six. It’s been a wonderful off season.
Alpha Delta…out.
"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"
Say a prayer for Surf Boy,
wherever he is.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jul 9, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
whoa, uhm
“semper fi Espisito”
“sic transit gloria sarge”
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jul 9, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
OH ARE THEY?
grab a bucket of guts and PLAY (in the sweet nectar of the endzone)
nfl is looking for that yao ming money
i thought it would come from some huge mongolian wrestler playing line but maybe kicker seems more appropriate.
by chiefsinchina on Jul 10, 2010 2:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Regardless.......
Even if FO is full of it, it’s still nice to hear a little respect even if it is only from one source. But I happen to know personally that FO is the most credible source on the planet.
yeah that’s right.
wait, you mean NT wasn't the biggest defensive need?? but...but....
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
nu uh. that isn't what they saided.
FO picked safety as the biggest need on the defensive side and center as the biggest need on the offensive side.
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 9, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Well with Brown gone and Page holding out I think Safety #1
then NT.
We got a 325 pound band-aid
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
I'd've been more nervous about relying on the NT talent that was there than I am about the guys they got.
Sure, taking Cam Thomas in the 5th hardly seems like it would’ve been a big risk, but what are the odds that the guy plays up to journeyman standards in his rookie season?
You’d think that they could at LEAST have brought in a project for the future, but I can definitely see where the possibility of taking a backwards step was higher with the entire NT class. To get high certainty of success, they’d’ve had to double- or even triple-up on NT, and you can only use that tactic on 1 or two position groups (this year, DB and OL, apparently), and the DBs DO appear to have a higher probability of bringing significant improvement, individually and as a group. Meanwhile, they’re as good or better than last year in the front 3 (but not necessarily by much).
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
Agreed
Plus at this point we’re all jumping the gun on how some of these guys will play. Who knows we might be just fine this year, and looking to next year to fill that spot with the draft.
i'm just saying. we all thought or think NT was/is priority #1.
It is just funny that they’re saying it was really safety that was the biggest need. It is just a bit of a surprise, or at least to me.
" It was great for me to get out of that city, because it was just a lot of jealousy, envy and hate that came with being a part of that city."
- LJ, after taking denial lessons from our current President
by chief Stevie_k on Jul 9, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm happy but..
I’m respectfully wary. I don’t think the Chiefs have made enough improvements combined with enough of a decline from the Chargers. Furthermore, the Chargers aren’t exactly facing a difficult schedule. The way I see it, they have 4 potentially tough games: NE, TENN, IND, and HOU. They probably come out of that stetch at least 2-2. But the Chargers will still benefit from weak NFC West match ups.
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The Chargers are a HUGE question mark.
If they don’t resign McNiel, that O-line is in big trouble. I doubt that happens though. We know V Jackson won’t be playing and that’s a big deal too. Having a rookie NT in his first game would seem to favor the Chiefs as well.
If they get McNiel re-signed, I will agree that they haven’t had a significant decline and will be VERY difficult opponent in week one. If they don’t, Hali will have a field day and Rivers will be in for a long night.
The Chiefs need to take a page from NYs book from the playoffs. Bend but don’t break on defense. Keep the turnovers to a minimum and run the ball again and again with Charles and Jones and just smash it down their throats until they submit. Throw the ball only when necessary and just eat up the clock 3 or 4 yards at a time. You know Charles will break a big one or two at some point.
It seems as though this is a pretty winnable game for the Chiefs.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 9, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I absolutely love Football Outsiders...
And they are really good at responding to emails too. I’ve emailed them several questions and they have answered everyone of them very well… I’m holding out hope that they may look into something I asked once.
I won a several fantasy leagues last year based on some of their advice.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
Let's remember that last year they predicted the Rams would win 9 games.
I’d say they’re dead on and way off about as often as everyone else. Let’s take this for the same value as we would someone predicting us to be in the basement. Regardless of how we look at the onset of the season, we still play 16 games (hopefully 17…or 18….or 19) and often a handful of teams are way off expectations. Some higher, some lower. Can’t wait to see what happens.
Chiefs should win 8 or 9 games this year.
Most teams should be able to run the ball against the Chiefs. The did nothing to improve the run defense. But, we need a big DT and a run stuffing middle linebacker.
Fixed...
Chiefs should could win 8 or 9 games this year.
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jul 9, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree with "nothing to improve the run d..." but I like big DTs and run-stuffing ILBs.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
I think we'll find out that drafting Arenas improved the run defense
It is likely that all three of our division rivals will field 3 WR sets a significant number of times per game, meaning our nickel back (hopefully it is Arenas) will be one the field a lot. But all three of those teams will also run out of 3 WR sets, and do it all day if the loss of a linebacker hinders the run defense. But Arenas has made a name for himself in opponents’ backfields, and he’s a solid tackler. I am excited to see him, Flowers, and Berry on the field at the same time…all of them are really sure tacklers and read the run game well.
Oh and speaking of Berry, how does spending the #5 overall pick on a Strong Safety not count as something “to improve the run defense”?
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
(giggle)
I thought you were all in MO….the “show me state”…….I just want the season to start so we can start winning games & SEEING all of these so-called predictions.
And I can’t wait for that. I really hope this article is right on! :)
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Jul 9, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
This is my first post here but
I am an avid fan who love the game of football. I can honestly see the Chargers going into a free fall this year they have several players upset with the organization including their # 1 wide out starting left tackle and Shawn (i love roids) Merriman. Couple that with a propensity to not play to expectations in the beginning of the season, and I see them losing early and not being able to turn it around like they have the past couple years. Leaving the door open for an improved Chiefs team building of a win on Monday night to take over the west with 8 to 10 wins this season.
I've been predicting the free fall for three years now
C'MON CHEN!!! ---Will Ferrell
by averagegatsby on Jul 9, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to AP
Maybe even if things don’t go our way in week one we can plug along and still have a great season.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Good
It is a lot friendlier here then over at the Scout.com Chiefs board. Over their if you don’t think the sky is falling you aren’t a true fan.
We have our moments
Things are definitely on an upswing though.
2, 4, 8 Who do we appreciate, Hah
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Forsythe13:
I hear what you’re saying about pending implosion in San Diego. But when you’re doing everything you can on all fronts, to get the mostest for the leastest, there’s bound to be some grumbling. It’s part of the price of success in the NFL. Every player whose stats are on the up-tick thinks he’s worth more than you budgeted for, so if you’re getting it right, you get more of those high-end players whining, and their GM is pretty used to handling that.
But they DO look more vulnerable this year than they have in quite awhile. They’re clearly TRYing to address the problems they had last year, but it looks they’re facing more risk in more position groups this go-round, for sure.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
Thanks
I know Aj Smith has dealt with grumblings before but I don’t think it had ever reached this scale. To have this many players upset with the organization and a coach known for being a little lax when it comes to some things that locker room is gonna tear its self apart if they don’t win early.
Yeah. Rivers just reminds me of that ultra-competitive pain in the neck back in the street-ball days.
Always obnoxious about every call that went against him. Never committed a foul or stepped out of bounds in his life, to hear HIM tell it. You’d just as soon the bastid DID walk away, only he was always the rich kid who owned the football. All about the winning, with NO sense of fair play or sportsmanship. I hate guys like that. And I loved beatin’ ’em, too.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
the wait is over
that is exactly how I seeing KC .. movin and improvin.. boltz and donkeys loosing ground. and the black hole welll same old hole … are boyz are gona see some daylight this year .. but PlAAY OFFFS , what PLAAA OFFS …. lets just kick Bolts butt on MNF prime time and take it from there ….
We are on the right track...
but seeing is believing. I have made the mistake of being overly optimistic about the Chiefs many times before, so I’m not going to count my chickens until they’ve hatched.
Why
It is sport, It is like smelling the tulips (flowers)
There is life and death everywhere. Financial ruin for some around the corner and we are seriously worried about the Football team?
Clark’s problem IMO. He laid it off on Pioli, Thum, and McCracken. Once the roster is signed.
Haley and the coaching staff are on the hook. The players play well and everything is good in Steve’s World. If Not, then Steve Stones the Heretics or something like that.
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
We are on the right track… but seeing is believing. I have made the mistake of being overly optimistic about the Chiefs many times before, so I’m not going to count my chickens until they’ve hatched.
Remember this 5280ChiefsFan…..The Chiefs spent the last 3 seasons laying eggs. This year they will be hatched.
Why should anyone not be optimistic?
This is the first year in three years that….
We don’t have a 40 year old and a toothpick competing for QB position
our o-line is respectable
We have a running game (thank you LJ and Twitter)
we actually have two good receivers
our secondary is stacked
we have Charlie weis and Romeo crennel and not mike solari and dick curl
we don’t have herm
Look at how far this team has come in one year
by raiderhater77 on Jul 10, 2010 12:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I completely agree with you and the improvements the Chiefs have made this year.
Winning 8 games would be a big step forward vs a 4 win season. So, we are going in the right direction. I am concerned with the front seven on defense but the biggest question this year will be the play of Cassell. Cassell needs to have a good year for us to get into the playoffs. If he does not improve his play it will not matter how our run defense plays.
by Mustang fever on Jul 10, 2010 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions
rofl
right about san diego but can KC play good football for 16 weeks if they play every week like at@ den then yeah but u lost to CLE BUF at home to win the divison u must win w 1 sweep DEN OAK beat ZONA SEA STL CLE BUFF AND JAX
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I don't think it's TOO Kool-Aid-ish to be skeptical about SD and guardedly optimistic about the Chiefs.
But that’s not the same as saying the Chiefs will win the division, like PFO said.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
Heh.
Guardedly optimistic about the Chiefs is thinking they’ll be close to .500 (with dreams of over .500).
Skeptical in SD’s case is thinking THEY’ll likely be only a .500 team.
But I think KC will be better in ’10 than in ’09 and San Diego will struggle to maintain their level of play, with VJ out, especially if McNeil remains aloof after training camp starts.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
yes
u shouild be better than 4-12 u shoulid win 6-7 games and with turnover and bad plays by the other teams 8-9 wins is possable my worry if i was a chiefs fan wouild is cassel the long term anaser
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Hey J-man
We’ll find out this year if Cassel is the answer or not, i think he’ll be just fine if he play is anything like his work ethic.
Don't the Broncos have some pretty serious question marks at QB too?
Is Orton the starter? If not, Tebow? Or better yet Quinn? I’d put Cassel up against any of those guys at this point.
I feel pretty confident that we have a capable young QB at the helm who can win games at the end as long as his teammates are doing their job. I’d say most of his teammates will be much better at their jobs this year. With Weis coaching him…I’m quite confident that Cassel can get it done…especially with a top run game which I think we will have. Top 5 for sure.
I'd take Croyle over anyone the Bronco's have.
I don’t think Cassels issues were so much Cassel, but more of the lack of receivers and an o-line. Rushed too much. He did make mistakes but he was put in a tough position. He should be just fine though.
from the cowboys site
some good info on past FO predictions in the comments
Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
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I’ve made a big old pitcher of red Kool-Aid for my Chiefs’ loving wife to be served up at the 1st Monday night game.
Keep dreaming.
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I think FS was our biggest need.
DT you can get a huge guy with some athletic ability to tie up blockers.
While at safety you cant just have an athletic person , you need someone with prized skill sets.
by Shaun McElreath on Jul 19, 2010 1:55 AM CDT reply actions
As for Cassel
He may / may not be the long term solution , but as far as right now I see him as the 2nd best quarterback in the AFC West.
by Shaun McElreath on Jul 19, 2010 1:56 AM CDT reply actions
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