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Chiefs Were Aware Cris Carter, Michael Irvin Would Give Dwayne Bowe Some "Tough Love"

Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe attended Larry Fitzgerald's summer camp for NFL players. Two of the men in attendance were once good receivers in their day -- Michael Irvin and Cris Carter.

Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports Bowe received some "tough love" from Irvin and Carter. Apparently, Bowe had taken nearly two weeks off of workouts and was overwhelmed by the conditioning aspect of all of it.

"Can you imagine your first day coming back to 14 100s?" Bowe told the Star-Tribune. "Man, it was like college again. I’ve never done this intensive competing, conditioning and technique in one day."

Apparently, the Chiefs knew Bowe would be here talking to Irvin and Carter.

"I don’t get mad about kids coming or not coming," Carter said. "Larry is the only one who invited me. Larry is the only one but some people in Kansas City as far as their administration kind of knew I was going to be here. We kind of let them know that I would be here for [receiver Dwayne] Bowe."

I take this as a good sign. If the Chiefs had given up Bowe, or thought he didn't have what it takes to be great, they wouldn't have bothered talking with Carter.

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Apparently, Bowe had taken nearly two weeks off of workouts and was overwhelmed by the conditioning aspect of all of it.

That just makes me shake my head. The season’s coming up and you take almost two weeks off? You’ve had a few months since the season ended to relax, it’s time to focus now.

by bh13 on Jul 8, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree totally....

….I’m about done with Bowe. Even after all the talk of the players knowing what to expect this year coming into training camp, and all the talk of Haley urging the guys not to relax during their time off…..He is ALREADY OUT OF SHAPE???? He is a joke….he will never get it, and this really ticks me off to hear this. He will never reach his potential if he keeps “loafing it” like this. I"m not saying he should have been going through intense training…but he should still do some sort of running every day! You’re paid millions, you have time….work out!!!! Uhhh!!!!

I carry a lighter around in my pocket wherever I go...I don't smoke, I just really like certain songs.

by BS_Nerdlaw on Jul 8, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The conditioning is a big part of how receivers give themselves a speed advantage in the 2nd half.

Getting open in that 4th quarter and making the must-catch is a real game-turner.

It just sounds like Bowe is satisfied with statistics and not about winning games.

Remember the workouts Jerry Rice used to go through? Folks always talk about how talented he was, but he worked harder than ANYbody.

As a low-talent, hard-working type, I’ve always been willing to concede defeat to the better guy, but NEVER because the bastid worked harder than me. That’s what makes it tough to relate to Bowe.

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

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yeah man!! totally give him the cold shoulder, maybe he’ll take notice lol

dhalsim, beat the game
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by YogaFlame on Jul 8, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hah:
Apparently, the Chiefs knew Bowe would be here talking to Irvin and Carter.

I think lately Bowe has needed to get approval before he talks to anyone.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

You can't teach hands like Carter had

Best hands in the history of the game

by RamX21 on Jul 8, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Rice>Carter

The 5th Dimension
#29 Eric Berry

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hands, pure catching ability

Not who is a better receiver. Carter has better hands

by RamX21 on Jul 8, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not from the games I saw them in

I would easily take Rice for the better hands.

Carter made some great/tough catches no double, but Jerry hardly let any hit the ground.

The 5th Dimension
#29 Eric Berry

by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drops

Jerry had plenty of drops his first couple of seasons in San Francisco…used to drive Walsh crazy.

Jerome

by easyjb on Jul 8, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best hands - Fred Biletnikoff

"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then give up. There's no use in being a damn fool about it." ---W.C. Fields

by Big Chief on Jul 9, 2010 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

So where/what exactly was the tough love?

I didn’t catch that.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

@before and after your text@... But it doesn't work in the headline

So did the Chiefs call up Carter and were all like:

“Hey, we have this underachieving receiver that will be at the camp you’re attending. Do you think you can try to motivate him?”

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like they gave him shit

That’s what the article insinuates. The article says “tough love” in it. Probably got on his case about being out of shape.

by Joel Thorman on Jul 8, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What article, exactly? I found this one:

No Rest at this Camp. But found no mention of D-Bowe.

What article are you referencing, exactly, Joel?

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

This one

Right here. Not sure why the link changed from the first time I posted it. Strange.

by Joel Thorman on Jul 9, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good grief, DBowe. Grow up!
I take this as a good sign. If the Chiefs had given up Bowe, or thought he didn’t have what it takes to be great, they wouldn’t have bothered talking with Carter.

If he doesn’t show some accountability this year they will give up on him.

by mikedkc on Jul 8, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not clear on whether Bowe didn't work out or missed two weeks' worth of Fitzgerald's camp,

and whether his absence was because he just didn’t want to work that hard.

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure either.

Sorry Joel but this article is a little vague on details.

But hey, 1 out of 100 isn’t bad :)

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK. Disregard my previous remark.

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here ya go

Bowe made his first appearance at the camp on Thursday and he received some tough love from Carter and Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin. Bowe, who said he took 12 days off from workouts, struggled with his conditioning as the players ran 14 100-yard sprints and then four 50-yard runs.

First appearance at the camp so he hadn’t been there before, so the 12 days off was time he wasn’t working out on his own it sounds like.

by Joel Thorman on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops

Top part should be block quoted:

Bowe made his first appearance at the camp on Thursday and he received some tough love from Carter and Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin. Bowe, who said he took 12 days off from workouts, struggled with his conditioning as the players ran 14 100-yard sprints and then four 50-yard runs.

by Joel Thorman on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

12 days off from workouts? Really?

Heck, even on your day off, shouldn’t you, as a pro athlete, at least do a little something to keep in tone.

It just sounds like D-Bowe has zero self-motivation. No self-discipline. He’ll work only if there’s somebody in his ear-hole.

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we should be expecting a performance enhancing drug strike 2?

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bowe is slowly becoming dead to me until the season starts

I want to see what he does on the field when it counts.

Other Arenas wish they could be like Arrowhead Stadium and when rivals think they are going to be fine on an island of Flowers, they will get hit by what feels like a Carr. Ultimately, they will never be able to eat a Berry ever again.

by worc on Jul 8, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Feeling the same way

I want him to just shut his mouth, show some work ethic and focus.

by Budd Jones on Jul 8, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me, too.

OTOH, showing up at Fitz’s camp says he’s doing SOMEthing that he hasn’t done in the past. Maybe he’s STARTING to get it, and the experience will turn his boat around. It just seems odd that he wouldn’t do ANY kind of running or working-out for almost a fortnight.

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t look for Irvin or Bowe to work on Bowe’s ego, since they are both pretty full of themselves. But hopefully they’ll help him with his concentration, his biggest weakness.

by dablueguy on Jul 8, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

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you need a lil swagger to be a wideout anyways. if you arent confident in yourself, how can your quarterback rely on you?

dhalsim, beat the game
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by YogaFlame on Jul 8, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I take it as a good thing that Bowe took some time off, and now, 3 Weeks before camp, is going to a very hard training environment, because he realizes he needs to be in tip top shape before camp starts. He is saying he wants to duplicate what Sidney Rice did last year. I see no way that that’s a bad thing, and I think too many Chief fans are now jumping on Bowe for ANYTHING, much like they did LJ over the years, whether it was deserved or not.

by dablueguy on Jul 8, 2010 4:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

I don’t see anything wrong with taking a couple weeks of to rest and recoup, especially if he knew he was going to this camp then just keeps it going into training camp

by RamX21 on Jul 8, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, they said 12 days off

I don’t see a big issue with it, as long as he’s ready to go for camp

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most all major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6?

by stagdsp on Jul 8, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't mind if he relaxes somewhat

Scale back your workout, do some light jogging, whatever, just don’t completely stop working out. Like mills said above, conditioning is huge late in games. There’s no reason he couldn’t be at the very least running a little every day.

by bh13 on Jul 8, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

he very well could have been doing stuff every day

the article doesn’t detail what “days off” meant.

frankly, I would hope he was catching passes off the juggs machine every day instead of running 100yd dashes

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most all major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6?

by stagdsp on Jul 8, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

As long as he’s ready to go once the season rolls around, I guess it’s not that big a deal. I just have high hopes for the guy, like I’m sure most of us do. He has all the tools, he just needs to put it all together.

by bh13 on Jul 8, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

None of us know...

What he considers not working out for 12 days could be a huge work out for most of us…

by groundedchevy on Jul 8, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No doubt.

If he did even light jogging he’d have me beat.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if he kept a light pace working out

running 14 100’s then 4 50’s is going to gas ANYONE, nowhere did it say he didn’t finish, he was just shocked at how hard he worked. I’m sure it kicked every other guys ass who was out there too

by RamX21 on Jul 8, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The first preseason game is a little over a month away, not 2

I have “chilled out” some, as you’d see by reading the rest of the thread. People overreact sometimes, it happens, big deal. It’s not like I was cussing the guy out, just expressing a little disappointment.

Whatever, it’s over now. As long as he shows up for camp ready to go, I’m not going to think twice about any of this.

by bh13 on Jul 8, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

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light jogging is nothing compared to 14 100’s & 4 50’s. light jogging is for old people. it wouldnt condition him for short distance sprinting lol, theyr entirely different

dhalsim, beat the game
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by YogaFlame on Jul 8, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't really consider 50 and 100 yards short distance

but I get your point. One of those cases of not fully thinking before posting.

by bh13 on Jul 8, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

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well, in track, 100m/200m are considered the short sprints. 300m/400m are the ones that really suck. even in football, 50yds isn’t much to ask for from speed position players

dhalsim, beat the game
level 8, hella geat

by YogaFlame on Jul 8, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting quote
“You can tell [the potential impact] by the production that Sidney Rice had last year,” Bowe added. “I know he had Brett Favre but still. I talked to him a week ago and he told me they competed and it made him [better] and he went to the Pro Bowl. Now I think it’s my turn to take over.”

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most all major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6?

by stagdsp on Jul 8, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

You people amaze me...

We have no idea what Bowe’s definition of not working out for 12 days is. We should be happy that he took advantage of Larry’s invitation and is at this camp. It shows that he is dedicated to do extra work besides just the mandatory training camp.

by groundedchevy on Jul 8, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Uh Im gonna go out on a limb and

no working out is not working out…

No real way to twist that

The 5th Dimension
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 8, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

OTOH, groundedchevy and other level heads, here, may be closer to the reality of it.

I’m pretty sure his going to Fitz’s OTAs is more than he did LAST year in the run-up to training camp.

Maybe all the flak I am giving him is totally outta line, when I should be congratulating him for doing more than ever before to improve himself.

Is he a workout warrior like Jerry Rice or Thomas Jones? No. But maybe he’s taking positive steps in that direction, and I oughta cut him some slack, for once. But as a guy who’s always substituted hard work for talent, it just seems foreign to me…

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bowe not prepared?

Shocker! Can’t teach him how to have a love for the game like Carter and Irvin(like em or love em they left everything on that field) to have that hall of fame career success.

by KCinIL on Jul 8, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Did I say off the field?

I’m talkin strictly football not what someone did off the field, we all got shit we’re not proud of they’re human what’s that got to do with anything? Drops are all about concentration, effort, preparation, yada yada yada. That’s not what a “real” receiver should be doing, let alone a #1. And no I don’t hate the damn guy.

by KCinIL on Jul 8, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Attempted murder? Really?

And this IS off the field. Not to mention it’s a completely different game from when Irvin played. Dwayne Bowe is an unsaavy media dullard, yes, fact, no question. Athletically his entire world was shifted from Herm’s let his natural talent flourish style to Todd’s you WILL know every foot placement on this route style. The only thing that Bowe’s done to really shake our confidence is the PED stuff, which was stupid and adversely effected the team. Performance wise he’s on the hot seat this season.

The rest of these stupid non-issue off-season stories strike us as incredibly unfair and stupid.

In the world of T.O., Ochocinco, Randy Moss, Plaxico Burress, and the godfather of king douche cocky human fuck-up wide receivers: Michael Irvin, Dwayne is actually a pretty solid citizen.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jul 9, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Solid citizen?

My first comment was everything ON the field with why I have an issue with him. Where’s it say I have a problem with his PED stuff. I have a problem with him dropping the damn ball over and over again killing drives. Love for the game = on the field issue, concentration = on the field issue, drops = on the field issue <—that’s the comparing I was and am doing to him w Carter and Irvin. Not comparing any of the off the field stuff. Jared had 2 dui’s could’ve killed someone as well does that change your mind about him on the field?

by KCinIL on Jul 9, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Joel, you might want to add this block quote into your post:
Bowe said he is casual friends with Fitzgerald but he accepted his invitation to join because of the good things he’s heard from other players, including Rice. He also wanted an opportunity to get one-on-one instruction from Carter and Irvin.

I think that could have cleared up a lot of the confusion and instantaneous Bowe hating that came from a lot of us.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like a pre-discussed robot message

Ok maybe that was a little Bowe hating right there, but still! =)

by KCinIL on Jul 8, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll admit I probably overreacted

He’s putting in the effort to be at the camp, that in itself shows something. I hope he comes out and puts on a show this year, having his best year yet.

by bh13 on Jul 8, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

We all did, I think.

Especially those of us that read Joel’s post before he had a link in there. It’s all good though.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see this as Bowe trying to improve himself

I hope he has a comeback year on par with Rice’s last year

The poster formerly known as "ktr17x"

"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left."

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by Aperture on Jul 8, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least his best year so far.

His potential is well known, but I don’t think that he “gets” it. But If he ever does, we might well have another Chief in the Hall of Fame. I truly hope his talk with Carter & Irving provides a launching pad for him this season as they were two of the best. Being a Chiefs fan since 64’, I would love to see him be respected & perform on a level that Otis Taylor and some of the other greats from our past did.

by gotanarrowheadonmyarm on Jul 8, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's get Otis in there, first, OK?

"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin

by hmills110 on Jul 8, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bowe in 2011

I’ve talked about this before, but those of you who say you are “done with Bowe” need not worry, b/c in my humble opinion, he won’t be on the roster in 2011, no matter what he does or doesn’t do in 2010 on or off the field.

So giving Bowe a 2nd thought past what he does or says this season would be wasted energy. We can only hope he gives us one last good season, with minimal dropped passes, and acts like a professional at all times so we can keep him on the field.

by FalconMF27 on Jul 8, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

you're pretty sure of that, huh?

trade or FA?

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most all major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6?

by stagdsp on Jul 8, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Restricted FA in 2011, right?

2nd round tender and someone takes him.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sooo......

Hypothetically speaking: Bowe comes out this year and has a Pro-Bowl calibur season. In turn, Haley/Pioli decide to cut him loose when they have been trying diligently to get a Pro Bowl receiver on the team? I don’t think so.

If he stinks the place up…okay, I’ll buy that.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 8, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are being a little harsh.

14 100-yard dashes? That means sprinting the length of a football field 14 times. Even when I was in the best shape of my life, I would have struggled with that. I don’t think we should get pissed at Bowe for not being able to run 14 100-yard dashes. Plus who knows what he has been doing the last two weeks… he may have had all kinds of events or things to be at, and didn’t have the field or resources for football-like conditioning. The guy has a whole month left till training camp, and I’m sure right now he has a lot of things he wants to get done before then. I understand the sentiment that we want him to work hard, but lets give the guy the benefit of the doubt. He came into OTAs in shape and I’m sure he’ll be in shape for training camp.

by Vince D on Jul 8, 2010 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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did it say somewhere that he wasnt able to complete the workout?

dhalsim, beat the game
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by YogaFlame on Jul 8, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope, just that he was surprised/gassed

this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most all major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6?

by stagdsp on Jul 8, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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i dont get why people are flipping out then. an athlete’s workout shouldn’t be effortless if theyre looking to get better so im sure a lot of people there were feeling the same

dhalsim, beat the game
level 8, hella geat

by YogaFlame on Jul 8, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I remember running 100 yd. progressives and I was whipped too (I was a Left Tackle.) In fact, I think that my contract was probably a few dollars less than Bowe’s as well. :-)

by Supersport on Jul 8, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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definately man lol. during track season, 10 300m sprints with the walk back as the cooldown was the norm for us. that was following a mile warmup and a good 8-12 hill sprints too lol

dhalsim, beat the game
level 8, hella geat

by YogaFlame on Jul 8, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like Bowe had plenty to say...
Bowe said he is casual friends with Fitzgerald but he accepted his invitation to join because of the good things he’s heard from other players, including Rice. He also wanted an opportunity to get one-on-one instruction from Carter and Irvin.
 
“You can tell [the potential impact] by the production that Sidney Rice had last year,” Bowe said. “I know he had Brett Favre but still. I talked to him a week ago and he told me they competed and it made him [better] and he went to the Pro Bowl. Now I think it’s my turn to take over.”

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Jul 8, 2010 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Now he just needs to DO something.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 8, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whether or not Bowe improves

will be shown on the field. I don’t know any pro football players so I have no frame of reference to be able to judge if 12 days in the off season without a workout is alot or a little. Bowe has no excuses. He knows who the coaches are and what their expectations are. I have seen him make timing pattern catches like a seasoned pro and drop passes that a third grader could make. He is truly enigmatic in the way he approaches the game. I am in the camp that he has always been talented enough that he didn’t have to bust a gut to be better than average. That is all different now. He takes the field with the best athelets that play the game at the absolute highest level there is. He has to invest himself to be better than the average and I don’t know if he has that in him. He may have convinced himself that he’s just that good no matter what happens on the field because he plays for a losing organization. It’s a real easy excuse to use.

I hope that his presence at the training camp is a positive sign. It is just too hard to tell at this point. Since the importing debacle, he has been saying a lot of the right things. I just hope he means it.

"You gonna pull them pistols...or whistle Dixie?"

by Aiken_Drum on Jul 8, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

From keg in kc on ChiefsPlanet after the reporter was on 610
Sounds like maybe somebody in the Chiefs front office reached out to Cris Carter, who prodded Fitzgerald into inviting him. Big props to him if he sticks the whole three weeks. Reporter said he seemed really upbeat and receptive to everything that was going on.

Sounds like Bowe is indeed putting in the work. Maybe he took those 12 days off in anticipation of working hard at the camp.

by bh13 on Jul 8, 2010 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Bowe Career Stats

In a 3 year 43 game career Bowe has 203 catches adveraging 12.8 yards per catch 16 TD’s 33 catches of 20+ yards and one fumble. Sounds like a real bust to me. Cut the guy…if we can get him to just keep up this production, and Haley will and find another receiver to match him we are in the play offs. Bowe ispart of the “right 53”.

Jerome

by easyjb on Jul 8, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm with you JB.

My only problem with Bowe is that he won’t shut his trap. If he learns to do that, he’ll be a Chief for the long haul.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 8, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easy Fellas

 I would like to see have a work ethic like Jerry rice . However, I’m sure even Jerry had to take time off or else he’d be completely worn down and burnt before the end of the season .

 I am a guy who tends to outwork anybody around me.
It’s an alpha-dog competitive streak that some have. Still, as I’m sure some of you can relate ; I start losing energy/stamina over time if I don’t take some time off to recoup. You hear about guys wearing down toward the end of the season because of this very same reason; no time off . Alas, I have no idea what it’s like to take 12 days off.

by BuoyWonder77 on Jul 9, 2010 8:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I guess it's all perspective.

If you listen to the things that come out of Bowe’s mouth, it is easy to assume there is no cure for his brand of stupid and the Chiefs would be better off cutting their losses and shopping him for a draft pick. However, if you just look at the fact that, for the first time in his career he has attended a camp full of highly motivated, high talent players who are not content to be told how great they are—or how much “potential” they have—then hope for his improvement is possible. I’d have been happier if he’d arrived at the camp the first day, but the fact that Chiefs management had a conversation with Chris Carter about him is very encouraging. Bowe appears to be someone who needs a personal motivator, in addition to those the rest of the team already has, and Carter likes to reach out to younger players who are struggling (kind of paying forward the break he got after nearly destroying his own career). So back off Bob Gretz. Your hard-on for Bowe is getting a little out of hand.

by midcalchief on Jul 9, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

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