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Chiefs Training Camp: First Team On Day One

On Thursday Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was on 610 Sports with Bob Fescoe talking training camp depth charts. He said not to get too wrapped up in the depth chart early on because you could have a situation where a younger guy, like Kendrick Lewis, may be seeing more time than a vet, like Jon McGraw, because the vet already understands the ints and outs of the defense.

"Sometimes when you look at people in certain situations," he said, "have an understanding of why it appears certain guys are at certain levels in the depth chart. Don't let yourself get fooled all the time."

Of course, training camp depth charts are half the fun of training camp.

So we've been fooled and we're going to take a look at the players who lined up on the first team through day one of training camp.

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Offensive Line: LT Branden Albert, LG Daryl Harris, C Rudy Niswanger, RG Ryan Lilja, RT Ryan O'Callaghan

Harris was in for Brian Waters, who was apparently out with some sort of injury. I imagine Waters will be taking his spot back when his ankle isn't wrapped in ice.

Niswanger is competing with veteran Casey Wiegmann for the center position. This will be one of the more interesting battles in camp.

Receivers: WR Dwayne Bowe, WR Chris Chambers

No surprises here. These two are going to be number one and number two, however it shakes out. The Chiefs didn't open in a three receiver set so no Dexter McCluster here.

Running Backs: RB Thomas Jones, FB Tim Castille

Don't look at Jones as the "starter" at this point. This just happened to be the formation the Chiefs opened in. He and Charles, who is returning from injury, will be splitting carries.

Interesting to see Castille over Mike Cox.

Tight End : TE Leonard Pope

Another non-shocker. My guess is Pope will enter the season as the starter with Tony Moeaki nipping at his heels.

Quarterback: QB Matt Cassel

I'm not starting a quarterback controversy.

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Defensive Line: DE Glenn Dorsey, NT Ron Edwards, DE Tyson Jackson

Same as last year.  No surprises but I'm looking to see if Shaun Smith is going to push Edwards.

Linebackers: OLB Tamba Hali, ILB Demorrio Williams, ILB Corey Mays, OLB Mike Vrabel

Again, no change from last year. Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher saw time on the inside and, as we've predicted before, that will be the best training camp battle.

Secondary: CB Brandon Flowers, S Reshard Langford, S Jon McGraw, CB Brandon Carr

Three out of the four pieces are there. Flowers and Carr are no-brainers while Langford was the beneficiary of no Eric Berry at camp. We'll see how long McGraw can stave off the younger guy, Kendrick Lewis.

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Our intrepid reporter is up early folks, three cheers to him!!!

(Or more likely this is an automated post, but three cheers anyway!!!)

One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.

by nateforchiefs on Jul 31, 2010 7:17 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Nope it's really me

Automated posts going up during practice this morning.

by Joel Thorman on Jul 31, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

G'morning BRC

Ya know, we oughta get together for a Husker game or Chiefs game sometime. Your in Omaha right?

One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.

by nateforchiefs on Jul 31, 2010 8:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It would seem that way nate but nope, central Kansas. I did live in Omaha for a few years but I was a wee lad back then.

I have a bunch of family that lives in Lincoln and I make it up for the Spring game every year but the regular season tickets are a bit more challenging to get these days without being a season ticket holder. So sadly I have to watch my beloved Huskers, and Chiefs for that matter, from a distance. Yep, it sucks.

Go Chiefs!
Go Big Red!

Word.

by BigRedChief on Jul 31, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I figured you were in the area, oh well.

Go Chiefs and Big Red indeed!!!

One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.

by nateforchiefs on Jul 31, 2010 9:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I stand humbly corrected sir

One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.

by nateforchiefs on Jul 31, 2010 7:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can't wait till Leonard Pope is not on our team.

Every year it’s “he’s going to have a break out year. He’s so athletic!” This is a bunch of crap. Every year he disappoints.

God typed "iddqd" before creating Jason Heyward.

by EyePod on Jul 31, 2010 8:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Were you a Cardinals fan prior to last season?

This is Pope’s first traning camp with the Chiefs.

And he is athletic and he is going to have a breakout year but it will be more of a product of the Chiefs breakout year. (=

Word.

by BigRedChief on Jul 31, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see him breaking out

But I do see him as someone that can help and won’t be a weakness on our team. I just hope Moeaki lives up to his potential and stays healthy, so he can take Pope out of the starting lineup.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind Pope

The only problem with him is that people seem to have high expectations for him because of his size. He belongs on an NFL roster, but he shouldn’t be relied upon to be anything other than average.

I’d like to see us keep Pope. He’s a decent player, just nothing special. However, on our team that makes him the best TE we have on our roster right now (including Moeaki, who while he shows promise has done nothing to displace Pope).

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2010 8:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Corey Mays

might be my least favorite player in our starting lineup. He’s not fast and he’s not all that smart. The icing on the cake is that while he’s a big, physical hitter he whiffs more than he hits. Good effort, but he’s just not very talented.

If anyone was to get replaced from last year’s starting D I’d like it to be him. He belongs on special teams IMO.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2010 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Why would Mays have been the starter all year over any other ILB?

It has to be thought that Mays shows something in practice that the other ILBs are not showing, and since he remained the starter through the season, he must have been doing something in the games better than the other ILBs were doing. I understand that a player like DJ was in Haley’s doghouse last year, and Haley tended to have knee-jerk reactions to players doing something wrong or not doing something at all, but if an ILB gave us a better chance to win than Mays did, wouldn’t you think he would be in there over Mays?

by FalconMF27 on Jul 31, 2010 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, it does appear that the went with last years starting lineup for the most part.

If you ended the season as the starter, then it was likely you opened as the starter (the exceptions being at RG, RB, and FB). I don’t have a problem with that. You have to start somewhere. Let the new/younger guys come in and take their spots.

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jul 31, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was supposed to be a reply to MNchiefsfan

"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram

by citadelchief on Jul 31, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I gotcha citadel

That’s a very good point. Training camp is long, and this is the time when spots are won and lost.

I suppose it wouldn’t show any loyalty to bump a guy before giving him a legit shot to keep his job.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

Perhaps it was more a matter of no other options.

Like you said, DJ was DEEP in Haley’s doghouse, so that option was out. Belcher was new to the team and had way less experience at the NFL level (remember he was making the jump from tiny school to NFL). There were no other legit options after those two.

However, you could very well be right Falcon. I just know that at no point in any game during the regular season do I remember saying, “nice play Mays!” to myself as I watched the game. Belcher had a few of those (obviously the PIT play being the most notable).

Hopefully camp can sort it out. I know Mays had a rough gig last year with Edwards getting gassed by the 2nd quarter and letting OL blow through to the LBs. Perhaps we’ll see enough marked improvement by him to keep his job.

I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.

by MNchiefsfan on Jul 31, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Our front seven looks pretty unimpressive. I think Hali will have a good year but other than that just, ugh…

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Jul 31, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

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