Chiefs GM On Unsigned Draft Picks: They Know When Camp Starts
by Joel Thorman on Jul 27, 2010 8:11 AM CDT
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PrintChiefs GM Scott Pioli and Voice Of The Chiefs Mitch Holthus conducted a "take over" of 101.1 the Fox this morning. The Chiefs are doing the same with 810 WHB.
Pioli was on with Holthus and gave a quick non-update update to the Chiefs draft pick signings.
"The official time for the players is our first practice on Friday," he said. "We have four more of the rookie draft choices to sign."
Those four would be: first round pick Eric Berry, second round picks Dexter McCluster and Javier Arenas and third round pick Jon Asamoah. Pioli's philosophy when it comes to these draft picks is no surprise: You're either with us or you're not.
He said, "The way I've always felt about things like this is that everyone knows when the starting date is and when the starting time is. There's going to be a bunch of other players and coaches there and [if the draft choices] are there, great.
"We know when we're starting and hopefully they know when we're starting."
In other words, they're going to camp whether the draft picks are there or not. Of course, they would prefer the players to be there. The only real question mark at this point is going to be Berry.
We'll find out who's there and who's not at 1:50 p.m. on Friday.
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Im looking forward to a few deals being announced today!
Asamoah will be done by today..and I have a feeling Arenas will as well.
I love how he tries to flip this on the players...
the burden is on the team to sign the players. Make them a viable offer, Scott.
Dude.....your stirring up early this morning
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jul 27, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
So no matter what offer a players agent makes
The Chiefs should just accept it? Gotcha. Maybe you should leave this to the professionals.
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by Scaryclouds on Jul 27, 2010 9:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
The fans know when camp starts, too.
Stop trying to be cute and do your job. Get the players signed. It’s not just their fault if the deals aren’t done. The draft was in April. Plenty of time to deal.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Getting irrate with Chiefs mgmt is just as silly
As getting irrate with the players. This is a negotiation, both sides have to make reasonable offers. Unless on side is being particularly unscrupulous then there is no reason to be upset. Going by the contracts so far signed there is nothing to suggest the Chiefs are underpaying the players.
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by Scaryclouds on Jul 27, 2010 10:02 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And getting irate with misspelled words is ridiculous...
sorry fellas, had to be said since it trickled down through multiple posts.
Things to get the Chiefs back on the winning side of football:
1. Haley resign as offensive coordinator or do the following;
a. Feed JC more
b. Take the cuffs off of Cassel and let him air it out
2. Fire Clancy "Calls" Playslikeass
by kcchiefsfan72 on Jul 27, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Your right is not the players fault...
Their agents is another story….Agents get a percentage of everything and they want more money…General Managers and owners can not afford to fold on every little thing agents present to them. If they do future free agents and draft picks contracts will be outrageous. Just because we have a lot of cap room now doesn’t mean we will 2 years from now. The Chiefs organization needs to set standards and live by them. Even if that means draft picks holding out for a week. Its for the greater good of a championship team.
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions
You're assuming
the organization has made a fair offer and the Player/Agent wants more.
Could it be the Player/Agent want what’s fair and the organization is trying to get by with less?
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure the organization did make a fair offer
When this is all said and done Eric Berry will be one of the top 3 paid players for the KC Chiefs (most likely top paid)…I’m sure the organization has already given this offer. I have trouble believing this isn’t a fair offer when the player hasn’t even played a snap of pro football. Agents have more to loose here than the player or the organization. If the agents deal is below the picks around him the top tier draft picks will not choose them as their agent next year.
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Or...
Could it be that the players have been made fair offers but want more than their worth? Lets just wait and see…
Matt Verderame
These high character, team first
guys wouldn’t put money over team. Then they’d be just like Page and clearly not part of “the right 53.”
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny...
How some of the same people that say “Hurry up and get ’em signed, Pioli”…will be the same ones bitching about how certain players are overpayed.
Agents want more money…teams want to pay less. It’s not like that’s something new.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
The GM making a ridiculous statement
about players knowing when camp starts like it’s all their fault if they’re not signed is something new.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course it's the players fault, NJ.
From Management’s point of view.
If you ask the Agents? Then it’s going to be the teams fault.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
You don't say someting like that.
Nine draft picks remain unsigned in the AFC West as of this morning. Four of them are Chiefs. Evidently all the high character, team captains we drafted are disproportionately greedy.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
We need a larger sample size
I thought they did a good job getting players in last year. It could very well be that due to random luck, KC had some difficult to deal with agents this year. Or it could be that Pioli is indeed tight. We should know within a few seasons…
Predictions:
This year will be better
Wealthy people are wealthy because...
They don’t spend money…call them tight wads all you want, but most financially successfully people don’t blow money. Throwing huge contracts at players worked out well for the Redskins…I would rather my organization be tight with their money than throw it away like the Redskins. I just wish I was a tight wad….
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
The Bungels were the lowest spending team in the NFL for years..... and their play on the field reflected it.
Being a so called tight wad may work in the financial world, but in the NFL its having the talent that wins games. Just gotta be smart on how you spend your money is all I’m trying to say.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jul 27, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed...
I guess my point is….we should be as tight as possible with these ridiculous 1st round rookie contracts. We have the talent locked down…we just need to still have money in the bank for the FA that will throw us over the top. Maybe not a FA but our in house stars. Jamal Charles and Brandon Carr will need new contracts soon. What happens if Lewis is the starting safety the next two years. We will need a new contract for him too.
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Not too much room to wiggle, when it comes to 1st round contracts ....
There’s already a precedent with the previous years contract from the draft position the player was selected. It’s usually the details that gets contracts hung up like, guaranteed money, incentive clauses…etc…
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jul 27, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Wealthy people don't spend money?
hmmmm….that doesn’t make any sense at all…I think it’s poor people that don’t spend money.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 27, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
i think he's saying they don't blow their money.
instead, they spend wisely expecting to get returns on the money they spend. poor people remain poor, for the most part, due to the fact that as soon as they have some money, they blow it. think about it, how many “poor people” do you see loaded with multiple tattoos (most tattoos are about 100 bucks apiece), wearing 200 dollar basketball shoes, smoke, etc? i see lots of them. in other words, they blow their money
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
poor people remain poor because in this f-ed up country we live in...
10% of the people have 95% of the wealth. Not because “poor people” take their shitty paychecks and blow it on hookers and crack cocaine.
The rich get richer…period.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 27, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think I said hookers and cocaine
You kind of made my point though. The rich get richer because they do wise things with money and poor people stay poor because they don’t do wise things with money. And for the record, this is the best country in the world and offers more opportunity than any other country out there and given that many of us here are veterans who have risked our lives and lost friends and family fighting for this country, I’d appreciate a little less of the “f’d up country we live in” crap because another great thing about the U.S. Is you’re free to leave if you don’t like it here.
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
by kcguy on Jul 27, 2010 11:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
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I’m definitely not in the 10% but I’m sure I could be without stupid decisions….Having a hell of a lot of fun tho
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
…poor people stay poor because they don’t do wise things with money.
I think that is a bit of an oversimplification. When all the money a person has is spent on bills and food, one remains poor; I do not see how this can be construed as unwise spending.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
it isn't an oversimplified way of looking at it at all
it’s a proven fact that people remain where they are financially because they don’t change their behaviors. if every bit of your money goes to pay bills and buy food then maybe they should find a better paying job or even a second job to help out. my point is, we all have the ability to make our own way in life but we have to be willing to do what it takes to be successful. most people remain poor their whole lives because they won’t make the necessary changes to their lifestyle. it’s really that simple
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
So, then who
will fill all of the low paying jobs? It is unrealistic to think that everyone out there can become wealthy if they would just apply themselves more. As far as working multiple jobs, do you know how many people are trying just to get one job right now? Again, it is just not realistic.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
it's not unrealistic to think that everyone can become wealthy
but it is unrealistic to think everyone will. there are plenty of jobs out there for people to make money. it may not be the job they want but you can get work. this speaks to my previous point. how much are you willing to change your behavior in order to succeed? most people aren’t willing at all and therefore stay where they are and speak in a defeatist tone about how it’s the system that keeps them down. i just don’t buy it. there will always be poor people and that makes me sad because we live in a country where you can do better, if you are willing to do what it takes. we can disagree on this but having grown up very poor, i know you can get yourself out of it.
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
That is ridiculous.
The president has acknowledged the need to create jobs, but you appear to feel that you are better informed than the president. Call him and let him know how simple the solution is.
As for working multiple jobs (even though mabe it isn’t the job a person wants), hey, I could go out and get three full-time minimum wage jobs and they will never make me wealthy.
But I am finished with this. I won’t be drawn into an argument with someone who can’t even acknowledge the state of the current job market.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
well if the president said it, it must be true...
i’m fully aware of what the president says regarding jobs. i’ll even concede that some jobs are hard to come by but finding A job isn’t. Look, here’s a story about what i’m talking about. i got out of the army a few years ago and needed a job so i found a job managing a restaurant. most people feel that job is beneath them but i did it and found myself making a six figure income 2 years later. i left that job 4 years ago for a more “normal” job (for less money) that let me be off nights, weekends and holidays. i was laid off from that job about a year ago due to the economy. what did i do? i went back to managing restaurants and making a very good income again. i have to sacrifice time and events sometimes but i have a job. and since your example of 3 full time minimum wage jobs isn’t realistic because people need to sleep, i used an example of just two full time minimum wage jobs (it may suck, but it can be done) if you do that, you will make over 30k per year. not great but livable. btw, i have worked with many servers who make well over 1000 per week, line cooks (not chefs) who make 15 bucks an hour. hell, even a dishwasher can make 10 bucks an hour. i can acknowledge what the president says i just choose to make my own way instead of waiting for the president to fix it.
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
You are so naive, I can't resist one more comment
But this is to be the last one.
well if the president said it, it must be true…
No, that might be foolish. I am much more likely to trust your opinion. Sheesh.
…so i found a job managing a restaurant. most people feel that job is beneath them.
If you think a job in management is below “most people”, you are really out of touch about how most people really feel. MOST.
As for all these people you have known who are getting wealthy washing dishes, I simply do not believe that to be any more the norm than I believe that most people consider themselves above managing a restaurant.
Get over it Archie Bunker. These views might have had some validity at one time, but they simply do not apply to the modern times.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
i'm pretty sure i'm not the one who's naive
i’ve been around the block a few times and only speak about what i know and have seen. you can talk about what the president says is going on. as for this gem -
Get over it Archie Bunker. These views might have had some validity at one time, but they simply do not apply to the modern times.
they do apply since i am living proof of it “in modern times.” and i know for a fact that many people feel it’s beneath them to work in restaurants. clearly you know more about this subject than i do, so i’ll just keep going on in my ignorance and end up wealthy, you can do what you want.
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
"This is the best country in the world"
The majority of people that believe that are the ones that haven’t been to any other countrys.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 27, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i have been to a few other countries and i always come back
because i firmly believe that this is the best country in the world. we offer more freedoms and opportunities than any place else. like i said, i have fought for and would die for this country even though it gives people like you the right to spout your “america sucks” crap.
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
I guess it just depends on how each of us takes Pioli's comments.
Personally, I didn’t find anything wrong with what he said.
Fact is, until Bradford signs…the rest of the dominoes won’t start falling.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
Rookie pay scale
The new CBA better have one. What Berry will be earning is rediculous.
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010
by trentchiefsfan on Jul 27, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I think there's no doubt there will be one
It’s not in the interest of either side to have these huge rookie contracts at the top of the draft.
Predictions:
This year will be better
As long as players are endentured to the NCAA for 3 years without pay...
the top players should get massive contracts. For at least three years they are exploited by the NCAA. The ones who rise to the top and avoid injury should be rewarded.
DEATH TO THE NCAA
Radical thinking there HIV
Can’t say i agree with it. HIV 2 NCAA?
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010
by trentchiefsfan on Jul 27, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Makes no sense how?
Do they not put their bodies on the line, for no pay, for an extended three year try out? Is there not the risk of career ending (which ironicly is before their careers begin) injury on every snap? These players are exploited for years so guys like Nick Saban and Mack Brown can make millions a year off their backs. Those who come out of that on top desrve huge contracts.
The NCAA is shit. They have no interest in the student athlete, only dollar signs.
Because that's an NCAA problem, not an NFL problem
You say the top players should get huge NFL contracts…isn’t that kind of unfair to the 95% of players who never get a dime from the NFL? Wouldn’t it be more ‘fair’ if the universities themselves actually paid the players on the team?
Predictions:
This year will be better
I'm pretty sure that 95% of the NCAA players get...
a scholarship, and free room and board.
Go Chiefs!!!!
by ravenhawk on Jul 27, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh they get an education, something they don't want.
There are numerous stories of palyers not being able to support their 250 lbs bodies on their meager food alotment.
HA meager food alotment...
that’s a good one… you mean at their hall… where someone is there to cook for them full time.
Football, and Basketball players are treated very well on campus… they have private tudors, and much much more.
Go Chiefs!!!!
YEP
Even at Div 1-AA Missouri State (when I was there in the early ‘90s) the football & basketball players got nice 1-1 tutoring. As for the food, there were several all-you-can eat cafeterias around campus…I’m sure all decent sized universities have the same arrangement.
Predictions:
This year will be better
All University of Kentucky Basketball players are treated like Gods.
They have a hall dedicated just for them… a private nutritionist/cook… the football team has a similar setup, but is not nearly as nice.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I dunno... I'm not a fan of the University of Louisville
but I do know the case of Mrs Cipher is going on… I believe she was asking for her house to be paid off and $10 million.
So I assume quite a few bucks…
Go Chiefs!!!!
How much...
Would it cost for Pitino to hire a private nutritionist/cook? How much for him to get a degree? Pay for housing? I would say he is getting paid…The smart players work on a degree just as much as the sport….If they get hurt…they have a free education that sets them up for life…I wish I had that instead of student loans…
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point
I was at a arizona vs oregon state mens basketball game last year and after the game each oregon state player had their own box of pizza. I asked a player about the post game meals and he said it just depends on where we play on what we get.
by AZChiefsFan85 on Jul 27, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
well if you think 95% of NCAA players are under scholarship you are mistaken.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 27, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Youre right
but id bet you that 95% percent of the NCAA players who will go on to multimillion dollar contracts are.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jul 27, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
The two are one in the same...
The NFL’s 3 years out of high school before you can be drafted effectively indentures the players to the NCAA.
And yes, all players in revenue generating sports should get a modest stipend. They should get a cut off the money made off their sweat. Don’t play a revenue generating sport, tough shit.
I agree that they should get a stipend
But the players aren’t ‘indentured’ to the NCAA. They don’t HAVE to play football, but if they choose to, they have to follow the system the way it is set up.
If I want to practice medicine, I HAVE to go through the educational & certification process to become a doctor, and that’s very expensive. Even if I am a boy wonder genius I still have to meet whatever guidelines the AMA (?) sets out to become a doctor. There’s not much difference there.
Predictions:
This year will be better
But if you are in med school...
you can have paid internships and residencies where you are practicing medicine.
I don't work in medicine
But I’m 100% certain that none of my internships i did in college were paid.
And it was for a revenue generating business.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
I'm in a non paid internship for the State of Kentucky
I essentially have paid over $1000 to be an intern… but at least I will have 6 credit hours for the 20 hours a week that I have worked. Oh and I will have a published article on the subject by the time I graduate.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Paid internships are a joke for med school...
Drs end up with around 100,000 bucks worth of debt when they finish Med School. Its part of why we have rising costs associated with Dr. visits.
TA’s, RA’s and such actually take care of Grad school(Biology, Anthro, etc) much better than an internship in Medicine.
Go Chiefs!!!!
They are still paid for their craft...
all of my engineering internships were paid and that didn’t violate my engineering eligability.
Its a crock that everyone stands to make money off the players efforts except the players.
hmm
Doctors and engineers usually don’t get 60 million dollar contracts with half of it guaranteed either
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
My dad always told me...
You have to be the best at what you do…Is it fair to the doctors and engineers that spent 100k+ going to school that didn’t get a job when they graduated? Simple fact….life isn’t fair…You have to be the best to get the pay day in any field. If the NCAA paid the players…wouldn’t all the recruits go to the schools with the most money?
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe a pay scale?
Would work…based on how many snaps the players played? It would have to be set across the board for all schools…then a lot of the smaller schools couldn’t afford a football program
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
HIV, were your tuition, room & board all paid for you by your university?
No, it’s not the same as a cash payment, but I’d say that when all of your necessities are (well) taken care of for you that is a form of income…and in return the players generate income for the University.
Predictions:
This year will be better
It boils down to more of the lack of parity between HIGH profile coaches, AD's and the college athlete.
There was a guy I knew who played Corner for the Fighting Irish. He basically had a career ending injury while playing college ball, and he ended up having to pay a portion of his college education. Where if he had stayed healthy he would of had a free ride all throughout his undergraduate work.
Bottom line is College players are exploited, but are hopeful that one day it’ll payoff with an NFL opportunity.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Jul 27, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
They are receiving income in a form that has little to no value to them...
Would you work 40 hours a week only to be paid in something of little value to you, say pogs? Yes, the pogs have value but its not the kind of payment you’re looking for.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 27, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Education vs pogs.....
lets see, if a college education has no value to them, then i would say there is something wrong with their culture.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jul 27, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
To the ones who are going on to the NFL the education has no value. To the ones who have no future in the NFL the education is pretty valuable.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
In that case, the NCAA provides them with a platform to showcase their talents
Along with paying all their necessary expenses while doing so. Does that have no value?
Predictions:
This year will be better
I wouldn't go that far
Even to the ones who are going to the NFL, the education is valuable.
There is a thing such as life after the NFL. Wasn’t it mentioned on here not too long ago that the average NFL career lasts about 3 years?
So you’re drafted at 22, play til you’re 25-26, then what?
Even the guys who go on to the broadcast booth, it helps to have a command of the english language and the communication and comprehension skills honed at college.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Even to the ones who go to the NFL
the education holds value. The average NFL career is 3 years or something like that. Then what?
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jul 27, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
See above.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
yea i saw it right after i clicked post.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jul 27, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Your still assigning value to something that may not be valuable to others
When we have currency that can do that much more effectivley. What are the coaches compensated with? Tuition and a meal plan?
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 27, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
If that's solely the case
Guys out of high school can go play arena ball, CFL, etc.
They’ll get paid.
Or are the Division 1 NCAA schools better at priming these guys for the NFL? Is it possible that they’re coached / refined / honed into the skillsets needed to elevate to the next level, by being in these college programs?
If that’s the case, it sounds an awful lot like value.
Otherwise, go play Arena ball and make $500 / week and just show everyone you’re that good that you get invited to a pro camp.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
It's a silly comparison anyway
In an internship you work with a business outside the college.
A college JR defensive end isn’t going to moonlight with the Eagles getting a few snaps here and there, then return to finish his college career and call it an internship.
It’s apples and oranges. The situations aren’t remotely the same.
Plus the aforementioned fact that most internships aren’t paid.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
One could even argue the point that...
The athletes have no interest in college, getting a degree or even contributing to their team (college or pro) – only dollar signs.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
Using that logic
HS football players should be paid because they could be hurt before they even make college…
These kids go for free because they play football. They are getting paid for their onfield production with a full ride scholarship. Make it guaranteed that they can’t lose their FREE education due to an injury.
Im sick of hearing that these kids get nothing to play football in college.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jul 27, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Asamoah and Arenas better be signed with 24 hours
I really want to see all players be at St Joe on day one. Berry i can understand. but every other team is wrapping up there second round pick and we haven’t got our third round. we need these rookies in ASAP. Their performance this year will be a big factor of the future of the Chiefs.
Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010
Don't the players get penalized for not being at camp... contract or not?
It seems that players like Dex, Javier, and Asamoah would want to make it into camp so they don’t lose money.
Eric Berry on the otherhand will be making some redonkulous amount of money, and can afford to have a couple hundred grand docked from his contract.
Go Chiefs!!!!
hmm
never thought of that…I don’t think you can penalize someone that isn’t under contract….
by groundedchevy on Jul 27, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Same as below.
No contract = Nothing to be in violation of.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
No contract,
so they can’t be in violation of it and receive fines.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks...
I wasn’t sure if Pioli was making an insinuation with the comment “The way I’ve always felt about things like this is that everyone knows when the starting date is and when the starting time is.”
Go Chiefs!!!!
Unless I'm wrong,
but I think he’s just talking about player develpoment and practicing as a team.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I was under the same assumption...
but have confused myself.
(killer week of school… 2 tests… 1 spanish essay.. power point presentation. have already wrote 1 essay, and need to start on another*).
*The CPU in my brain is overheating.
Go Chiefs!!!!
I kove it: a non-update update
seriously, could it get any less newsworthy?
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Excellent point. And yet here we are debating it.
Yes, the football season is almost within sniffing distance.
10 + wins in 2010. Chiefs SHOCK the NFL!!! Mark it down.
Hell of a way to say "here's what we're offering, now sign it and get to camp".
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 27, 2010 9:34 AM CDT reply actions
This is another advantage of having camp so close to home...
although not one that you want to see used. But in the case that there is a holdout or someone is late to camp you now have the possibility of someone signing in the morning and being at camp by the afternoon.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
haha yea good point
except in Page’s case he is going to have to fly in from LA if he even wants to sign.
Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.
very good point
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Unless they use fax machines to transmit contracts and signatures...
Berry might sign and then have to fly in from Tennessee, or Virginia, or wherever he lives.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 27, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Why rush
Berry and the rest can’t sign with any other team, they can’t do anything really but hurt themselves by holding out. They are the ones that are behind development and speed and it’s up to them to catch up to the team. We played last season without these drafted players and we can do so again…would it be nice to have them signed and working with the team Sure, but agents get in the way and players want the money thus we get hold outs by people that really don’t have anything to gain by holding out (see Crabtree 2009). If you want to be a part of this team sign, shut up and do your job (and maybe carry some pads), if your going to listen to your agent and hold out for more money then you should have a long wait, if the NFL owners stuck to this idea there would be no need for a rookie cap the team sets the prices they are willing to pay and a drafted player can take it or wait til next draft to try again.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
Don't forget Traning Camp is in St. Joe so if you get the chance you should go, I'm going to make the time to see it up close.
It hurst the team, too.
They are the ones that are behind development and speed and it’s up to them to catch up to the team.
We played last season without these drafted players and we can do so again…
True, but we only won 4 games and haven’t done much outside of the draft to get better. The team needs these guys in camp if they hope to improve.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Jul 27, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
honestly I will only be angry if someone other than berry isnt signed come friday.
and I would be angry at both sides….thats just because 2-7 should be signed by camp….I do fault the agents a bit though…
yes its important to get the money, but its also important to get the opportunity…ryan sims goes in there late, then hurts his elbow…we need berry under contract, but as I have said before…of ALL first round picks in the past 5 years…Berry is the one that can miss a week and step right in and start
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
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