New Source Of Motivation For Chiefs Safety Eric Berry To Sign Early
by Joel Thorman on Jul 23, 2010 12:00 PM CDT
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On Thursday I passed along a prediction from Nick Wright of 610 Sports that Berry would sign on Aug. 5 or later. My personal prediction is that the deal gets done before Aug. 5. The Chiefs first camp practice is July 30.
So we've decided to make things interesting. Via Nick Wright:
How about this wager... I'm right, I get a full guest post, and if you're right, you come on my show.
So, if he signs before Aug. 5, I'll be on the afternoon drive show. If he signs on Aug. 5 or after, he's posting on AP. Yeah, I'm worried about what he would write, too.
On top of that, the winner will get a free barbecue lunch courtesy of the loser.
The biggest question now becomes...do I get fries or onion rings with my Z-man from Oklahoma Joe's?
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I though the Chiefs made a habit of making big announcements on Friday afternoons.
Therefore, my guess is August 6th. I’m with Nick.
by craig in calgary on Jul 23, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
Difference being that they want him in camp.
They’re not going to sign him and then have him wait for a few days so they can announce it on a Friday.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 23, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's what I'm wondering
someone feel free to tell me that I’m way off base here, but I’m wondering if the fact that Berry plays Safety will make his signing easier? correct me if i’m wrong, but didn’t I hear that he will be the highest paid Safety in the NFL (more than likely, based on his projected contract)? surely this doesn’t happen to every top 5 pick every year, right? like, TJ isn’t the highest paid DE, right? and Sam Bradford won’t be the highest paid QB, right? just really well paid? but this isn’t the case for Berry, correct? (honest questions)
so if that is the case, wouldn’t that (berry: highest paid S) diminish EB and his agent’s negotiating ability to a point? or is there a “top 5/10” dynamic here that I’m just overlooking?
ultimately, here’s my question: wouldn’t you think that EB and his agent would realize A) how important him being to camp on time is, and B) that he is one of the highest Safeties ever drafted and that he doesn’t have much to bargain with in terms of a “holdout”?
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by Chris Sembower on Jul 23, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
I don't think his contract has anything to do with veteran contracts.
It will be some combination of the way the slotting falls around him and last years contracts. I’d normally say it would be an 8% increase from last years #5, but that was a QB, which is the exception to the rule. His contract will not get done until #4 is done…it’s all up to Sam Bradford to hurry up and quit slowing down the snowball.
by craig in calgary on Jul 23, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
How important is it to be in camp?
Sure its important to the fans but I think top flight players can miss 5-10 days of practice to get the money they deserve.
These guys have been practicing football for years and they have years of practice ahead of them. Favre can come in and tear it up without fraining camp. Hell Crabtree missed all of camp and then some, his first game back he led the team in receptions and yards.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 23, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
how did tyson jackson do his first game?
and comparing any rookie to brett favre is sort of ridiculous, you have to admit
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by Chris Sembower on Jul 23, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Trying to think of other guys who bloew of camp...
Fact remains the same, a few practices, even two weeks of practices, over the course of 4-6 year rookie contract are irrelevant.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 23, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Page I knew that was you!
sign your contract and get back to work now please, I know you think taking a few practices off are okay while you chill in LA but building chemistry with your team mates is a big deal, well sort of. Hope your fully healed we could really use you this year.
Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.
do you think berry thinks those two weeks missed are irrelevant?
if those are actually important to him, i have a hard time believing that berry can’t make sure his agent gets him to camp on time.
all i’m saying is, why can’t berry become what #4 negotiates from?
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by Chris Sembower on Jul 23, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
we keep seeing these roster bonuses instead of signing bonuses
this years’ draft class clearly doesnt take anything for granted and is willing to work their asses off to make the team and contribute. you can’t do that if you aren’t on the field. i just keep feeling like this is one area where the “character” that pioli drafted all these guys for is starting to show a little, in a maybe unexpected place.
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by Chris Sembower on Jul 23, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
also, i keep thinking about what rodney harrison said:
something like “not just you eric berry, because we know that you’re going to be a great player. how can you be a leader of men and elevate the play of everyone around you”, which you also can’t do if you’re not on the field. and i believe eric berry to be the type of player that takes this to heart
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by Chris Sembower on Jul 23, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
If it was important to the Chiefs they'd pay the man.
These guys will only get, what, 3 contracts. They have to get max money. Besides, the burden is on the team.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 23, 2010 12:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting angle, christoffer
wouldn’t you think that EB and his agent would realize A) how important him being to camp on time is, and
I don’t think this makes any difference. I’d argue safety is an easier position at which to come in late than the lines, or people in the passing game. I’m in general agreement with HIV’s points, but Crabtree is a real exception, I think. Plus, even though Haley will talk about competition – and mean it – is there any way Berry is not a starting safety? No. His depth chart spot is safe.
B) that he is one of the highest Safeties ever drafted and that he doesn’t have much to bargain with in terms of a "holdout"?
I’d spin this a little differently. Berry’s agent will be able to say he got the largest safety contract ever negotiated, regardless of plus/minus a million. So for slightly different reasons, I think the fact that Berry is a safety will help the cause of getting him in by the 5th.
Btw, Joel picks up a BBQ lunch tab for everyone that voted for him when he wins.
actually, i think you said what i was trying to say
Berry’s agent will be able to say he got the largest safety contract ever negotiated, regardless of plus/minus a million. So for slightly different reasons, I think the fact that Berry is a safety will help the cause of getting him in by the 5th.
that was what i was actually trying to say in my post. that how could there be a holdout (or at least a lenghty one) for more money, when everyone is in agreement that this is already the highest safety contract out there?
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by Chris Sembower on Jul 23, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Alot of this is out of the player's hands unless they want to change agents.
Player’s higher these agents to get them the best deal possible. Getting good deals for players brings in more clients for the agent. An agent may view the money lost in the short term by being fired by the player as less of a financial impact than the long term consequences of brokering a deal that is viewed as being poor, resulting in fewer future clients. Until this thing starts shrinking from both ends it is difficult to know where that number lies and how it is structured. Getting the first pick under contract allows the process to begin.
Left Tackle is Brandon Albert's natural position.
Don't be ridiculous
With the rub they use to season those fries you’d be retarded to go onion rings. You already got one on your damn samich, don’t be greedy.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Jul 23, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm just trying to remember Nick's fav BBQ
I think Bryant’s was second and Gates was very last
Ninja Ass
I still think either way of the outcome
Joel should do the show, and Wright should post a post both of you talking about the battle of course!
Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.
11 days past the start of camp?
That’s a bold prediction. I’m gonna say Aug. 4th.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 23, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Motivation
This definitely puts the heat on Berry’s agent, because I’m sure Eric desperately wants AP to be the winner in this matchup.
Agreed, and this should be good for the team's budget
I’m have no doubt that Berry and his agent will be willing to accept 5 – 10 million less on the contract in the intererst of AP winning this bet.
Predictions:
1) Fans will feel just scads better from mid-to-end of the 2010 season.
2) During the 2021 season, Ryan Succop will become the Chiefs’ all-time leading scorer with 1469 points.
Either way, Nick wins
He either gets to stand at the ultimate pulpit for a bit, or gets an extraordinarily knowledgeable and powerful guest on his show. Well… aside from the part about who picks up the check, I guess…
I kinda want Nick to win so that we can finally see what his screen name is.
I know he’s got one.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 23, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions
well who's the biggest shit talker on AP?
that’s probably him…LOL
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Jul 23, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
God help us if it’s Krayfish.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Jul 23, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I voted for Joel
But only to support AP. I come here everyday, okay actually about 4-5 times a day to get my Chiefs fix. So I had to vote for Joel but really feel it will be a day to three before EBerry signs. That doesn’t mean I’m not pulling for Joel to win. Come on Eric, git ’er dun!!!
Pioli doesn't have a deadline.
He isn’t over paying even one dime. It will be after the 5th just because it will take that long for others to sign. The agent isn’t in a hurry either. Less money = less for him. The only motivated party is EB, and he is going to just let his agent and the Chiefs work it out.
Don't worry about the bet.
If he wins and posts on the front page, we can “take care of him”. If it should happen to come to that (if we can’t handle him), “Don” Pioli can take care of him…….hehehehehhehehe………;>}
"The Hammer"
If Wright is paying, why not just go with BOTH fries and onion rings
If he objects, tell him that he shouldnt have lost. Why limit yourself when you are the winner? Take the spoils and be proud of it (in this case, the spoils are BOTH).
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by chiefsandcigars on Jul 23, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
How about...
a survey on whether you should go fries or onion rings after you win?
by MissionJayhawk on Jul 23, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel every eating establishment should jump on this....
when you offer both fries & onion rings, why not offer a half & half option? This burger stand right next to my dive bar (yes I talk about my dive bar wayyy too much) offers this…..and we all LOVE IT. It’s ridiculous that you should have to choose one or the other & be a friggin pig & order both just to eat a few of each.
We should start a petition!!!
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Jul 23, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
"We" being you and Pioli?
I saw your pic from the stadium, Joel. For the wager, you should probably have disclosed the fact that you are actually Pioli’s right hand man and an active participant in the negotiations.
by sunny D on Jul 23, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think
Nick’s right on this one.
If chiefs don't win at least 7 games this year, I will be the new Mel Gibson!
had to vote with joel, but I think nick is right
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
if he wins just say you meant you would let him post a...FAN POST
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Joel, I voted with ya, hope you're right ... AND ... as I'm in town for a few weeks and I've never been to Oklahoma Joe's ...
(wistful look)
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hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Jul 23, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I hope Joel is correct and collects
the Oklahoma Joe’s bet with both fries and onion rings. Man! You are gonna be stuffed.
"The Hammer"
I sure hope he signs before the 5th
I’ll be coming up to St. Jo that weekend (6th, 7th) to catch my first ever Chiefs training camp. I’d love to see Berry before September 13th.
by ChiefsFanInTexas on Jul 23, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
Nick Wright? are you kidding?
Why would you want anything to do with him,his show or warpaint guess.com? if it wasn`t for tea leafs, his palm reader or shrink, he wouldn`t know jack about the chiefs.
Sounds like a win-win Thorman
You get to eat KC BBQ either way.
The Chiefs will finish .500 or better in 2010.
by Tony Perkins on Jul 23, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Nick Wright is easily the best talk show in town. If you are 30 years old like myself, Nick speaks for my generation. And his show rocks. Kevin Ketiz…who?
Thanks Nick Wright
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