Chiefs May Not Be Interested If Harvey Unga Goes As High As 3rd Round
by Joel Thorman on Jul 14, 2010 4:26 PM CDT
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PrintThe NFL supplemental draft is tomorrow and the biggest questions surround BYU RB Harvey Unga. He is the one most feel will be drafted at some point and maybe the only one that will be drafted.
According to Aaron Wilson of National Football Post, Unga could be going as high as the third round.
Former Brigham Young running back Harvey Unga could go as high as the third round or fourth round during Wednesday's NFL supplemental draft, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
Under a worst-case scenario, he's not expected to go any lower than the fifth round or sixth round.
This is likely coming from information his agent or someone close to him has received about where he might go.
The Chiefs have met with him privately on two occasions and attended his workout on July 8. They're considered to be one of a handful of teams that are interested in him.
That said, I have a hard time believing the Chiefs would give up a third or fourth round selection for him. Remember, they drafted high in April's draft so their bid would be higher than most others meaning they could probably get him if they wanted him in the third round.
GM Scott Pioli greatly values draft picks so without fully knowing what's coming next year I'm not sure I see the Chiefs getting involved at that price.
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A 4th is as high as I'd go.
No way on a 3rd.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions
Definitely not a 3rd
Jammal Charles was a 3rd rounder, for reference. Even in a weak class, we could get a solid ILB or OG/C prospect that early.
Predictions:
This year will be better
Charles was also a steal
But I definitely think having the 3rd to use on an unsexy-but-useful position like the ones you mentioned would be preferable to having a different third RB in the mix.
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by burntorangehorn on Jul 14, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Aperture's simplified Harvey Unga reaction
For a 6th- Woohoo
For a 5th- Ok I guess
Fora 4th- I’m a little surprised, but I trust Haley/Pioli
For a 3rd or higher- WTF! AW hell no.
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by Scaryclouds on Jul 14, 2010 5:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's your wife BRC :)
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope it couldn't be my wife cause then it would look like this:
Blah Blah Blah shoes Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Twilight Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
Are listening to me?!?
Blah Blah Blah It was on sale Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.
Word.
by BigRedChief on Jul 14, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
hahhah and rec
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooo hoo hoo.
Greened.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It's funny that I hear the exact same thing from my wife.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Natty talks to me and the computer screen sorta
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
I check this site every day to catch up on the Chiefs (of course) and to read your comments BRC!!! You’re one funny dude!!!
He'll go to Denver.
They took Tebow in the 1st, why not waste a 2nd or 3rd on a role player?
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I don't think any of the other AFC West teams have shown any interest.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, they didn't attend his pro day:
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Unga would take Tebow's roster spot FB
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't read far enough.
Also attending the workout, per the Tribune: the Green Bay Packers, Kansas City Chiefs, St. Louis Rams, Indianapolis Colts, Pittsburgh Steelers, Detroit Lions, Atlanta Falcons, New England Patriots, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New York Giants, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Miami Dolphins and a tiny boy-ish looking man calling himself Mosh JcDaniels.
Word.
Mosh JcDaniels?
I smell turtle!
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm kinda surprised that a Denver joke seems lost on so many of the Chiefs faithful.
I’ll go try again on an Oakland site I guess.
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by citadelchief on Jul 14, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I think everyone got it...
No offense, it just wan’t all that funny. Sorry bud.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
One of them must convert :)
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand :)
Unga was just starting his family later than most Mormons
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I could see a 3rd
For a position of need or where it’s fairly hard to find good ones, like say a NT, but RB’s are fairly easy to find. There will likely be camp cuts that can contribute about as much as Unga probably would this year for us. I wouldn’t go any higher than a 5th for him and I even question that.
1st rounder
Don’t feel too bad about using the 32nd pick on a RB
by Boots 58 on Jul 14, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Feeling Fiesty Boots :)
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling all these reports about him going for such a low pick is just smoke
Trying to get people out of the bidding or to make people use a higher pick than they would like.
Not the year
to waste a chioice on another RB. Now, if he played LB or DL, maybe….
I think if handed to us for no pick he would have a tough time making the roster.
Too many decent RB’s that can be poached off of practice squads. Remember the awesomeness that was Samkon Gato? That’s right, I used awesome and Samkon Gato in the same sentence.
Left Tackle is Brandon Albert's natural position.
Still looking at the NT in Cleveland :)
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Right...
because Jackie Battle is lighting up our backfield
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
My point exactly.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He is Dantrelle Savage's bff...
Go Chiefs!!!!
I think they will bid, but bid low
this should be the most exciting Chiefs team in years! Most major needs filled with playmakers, and the league's best coaching staff... 10-6 a possibility?
5th is my bet
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, if we drafted a stud OLB proven pass rusher then my outlook
on this season would be totally different. I’m just really concerned about that spot.
I don't remember any PROVEN stud 3-4 OLB pass rushers in the draft
they all were tweeners. The kid from Michigan might have been the best pick
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Besides, they already went and got that Greenwood kid.
You don’t want to overdo it at any one position.
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by citadelchief on Jul 14, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Greenwood was an ILB
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That could be my mistake.
Thought he was OLB.
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by citadelchief on Jul 14, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
SHEFFIELD
That’s who I was thinking of. I think I’m losing it.
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by citadelchief on Jul 14, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
3-4 OLB pass rushers are tweeners by definition
Considering how few teams actually run the 3-4 defense in college, there’s almost zero opportunity for there to be a true 3-4 linebacker. Almost all are projections. Lamarr Woodley was a true defensive end in college. So was Peter Boulware. Most of the top rush OLBs were, in fact. This year featured some very similar guys, like Jerry Hughes, Sergio Kindle, Misi, Ricky Sapp, Thad Gibson, etc. KC picked up a halfway-decent prospect in Sheffield, IMO.
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by burntorangehorn on Jul 14, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup. And mid- to late-rounds is where it makes sense to make these project picks.
It’s going to take a while for the system picks like this to take hold, and the roster mill to produce starters. To shorten the timeline, what do you do? You simplify the OLB responsibilities and get more dominant in the secondary. Chiefs have gotten more dominant DBs…
Chiefs have made a number of ‘tweener picks in the past, mostly hoping to bulk them up and make them into all-around DEs. The new regime is looking for ’tweeners in hopes of getting an OLB out of the deal. They didn’t keep many of the previous ’tweeners. Hali is the most notable.
I still wonder if McBride would’ve made it last year, if Crennel had been the DC, then. I think the ‘09 Chiefs wanted more versatility and open-field quickness from the OLB in the TE’s face. I mainly want power, there. Beat up the TE? Fine. Run with him? Nah.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
The project picks, sure...
…but there have been some guys who haven’t been project picks, despite the fact that they’re projection picks. DeMarcus Ware is one of the best examples, although I think Hughes and Kindle were excellent prospects of that variety in 2010. Kindle actually played way more linebacker than DE in college, and only moved up to the buck position because Brian Orakpo graduated.
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by burntorangehorn on Jul 15, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry about OLB.
They are releasing the parking break on the Studebaker and Gillberry is going thru the Hali metomorphosis.
Left Tackle is Brandon Albert's natural position.
by Idahochief on Jul 14, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
haha
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
A real gear-change.
If anything, it looked like they were trying to bulk-up Gilberry to 3-4 DE. But maybe they’re looking for more McGinest and less Seymour outta Gilberry. Makes sense.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
Well how many stud OLBs have declared for the supplemental draft?
Just curious.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Like Sheffield?
lol, I got ya. Maybe they’re impressed with Studebaker though and think he can step in to replace Vrabel… just a thought.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Sheffield was Hali insurance
Which side was Gilberry supposed to be playing as a possible OLB?
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
He backs up Studebaker in Vrabels spot after vrabel moves inside.
Left Tackle is Brandon Albert's natural position.
That would be a Great Training camp Battle to watch !
Gilberry vs Studebaker
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's more about him having the ability to move inside.
I think it’s a matter of being versatile. You could see any mix of Vrabel, Johnson, Belcher, Hali, Studebaker, Williams, Mays, and Gilberry this year (Sheffield and Greenwood won’t see that much playing time IMO).
Any of these guys being able to play more than one spot means more options for Romeo Crennell. Not a bad situation.
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by citadelchief on Jul 15, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I've thought this since he was a Patriot
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Jul 14, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen
Let Vrabel help DJ in the middle, and put Hali, and a rotation of Studebaker, Sheffield, and Gilberry (until one of them maybe wins the job outright) at OLB.
That lets us put our two best coverage LB’s and two good pass-rushing/run-stopping LB’s on the field at the same time on any and all down and distance combinations. How does that not kick ass?
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
That does Kick Ass
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Well yeah
but we got a lot of possibilities yet
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Harvey Unga anagram
Have Gay Run
I'm on a horse.
by craig in calgary on Jul 14, 2010 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
That is an Awesome name for a Horse :)
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by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Darn... so close to getting away with
“Very hung”.
Damn a’s
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
A Very Hung
Also a good horse name, btw.
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by burntorangehorn on Jul 14, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
an interview?
• DH: "Who’s the best basketball player on the team?
• UNGA: “I think I’m gonna put (senior safety) Andrew Rich out there. (Rich was on the Bonneville team that upset Timpview in the 4A quarterfinals several years ago). He likes to rub that in. He’s definitely a baller. We were on a intramural team together and it was a lot of fun.”
• DH: Who needs to get married?
• UNGA: “I need to get married … let’s see, who’s the oldest guy on the team? I’ll say (senior safety) Landon Jaussi. He needs to get married.”
• DH: Who’s the smoothest with the ladies?
• UNGA: “Man, I don’t know … I’m trying to think who’s NOT married on the team.”
• DH: “What about the freshmen?”
• UNGA: They’re just kind of like a deer in the headlights. They’re like, ‘College girls, what do I do?’ "
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Hahahahahaha
Apparently no one told Unga what to do (or not do) with college girls.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 14, 2010 8:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Abstinence-only education, baby
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by burntorangehorn on Jul 14, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If Pioli gives up a 3rd for him, he better be another Franco Harriss or John Riggins!
There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.
i dont know why you all are speculating...
obviously the past two years have done nothing to curb speculation with this crew… pioli has proven that he will do what he wants, when he wants, and for how much he wants to spend… obviously he has more than a passing fancy for this RB as they have had 2 private workouts with him… at this point i wouldnt even bat an eye if he decided to give a first…
7-9 this year... 9-7 if we get lucky!! GO CHIEFS!!
Well that is quite true
Yet that wouldn’t be value so I bet Pioli tenders and Ungas rights belong to the Chicago Bears :)
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I would like to know who on this board came out and called the draft perfectly.
I’m pretty sure we were all wrong after the McCluster pick.
"You can't be fat and fast too; so lift, run, diet, and work." ~ Hank Stram
by citadelchief on Jul 15, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Seems to me that Pioli's been fairly smart about value.
He goes higher than a lot of us would expect, and when he does, it’s the character/lack-of-downside that seems to tip his scale. And when he doesn’t pull the trigger, when a lot of us would expect, there’s usually downside that he’s avoiding (No NT in ’10 draft!?)
I was wrong on the McCluster pick.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
I called the Eric Berry and Jon Asamoah picks (both player and spot taken), thank you very little.
Everything else…not so much! /cry
(Here were my predictions)
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS 2010 DRAFT: (top 6 picks)
1.05) Eric Berry (S – Tennessee)
2.36) Jerry Hughes (DE/OLB – Texas Christian)
2.51) Terrence Codi or Cam Thomas (NT – Alabama / NC)
3.68) Jon Asamoah (OL – Illinois)
4.99) Jordan shipley (WR/PR – Texas)
5.133) Mitch Petrus (OL – Arkansas)
Yeah.
Instead of talking about what we think should be done, all we should really discuss is that Pioli will do
what he wants. Brilliant!
J/K Abysssmal… season needs to start already.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 15, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Holy Shit
Another Harvey Unga story?
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions
This is the Harvey Unga Fansite
isn’t it?
Tony Moeaki pointed it out
Ninja Ass
by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno, but
He must be a sure fire HOFer by the amount of discussion he’s had here.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jul 14, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
And what else should we discuss?
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by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 15, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
What time is the supplemental draft?
Also I’m going to predict he lands with the Buccaneers.
Go Chiefs!!!!
Agree with some others, here. If Pioli wants him, he'll be fairly aggressive.
But I think that somebody else will want him, more than Pioli does.
Depending on what happens with Page, I THINK it likely that KC is likely to receive a compensatory pick. I don’t know exactly how it all works, but I think losing a RFA to another team qualifies.
"Force shites down reason's back." - Ben Franklin
I don't think we will get a comp pick if we lose Page.
Last year we lost Pollard… this year if we were to lose Page it would be pretty much the same plus add in Smith(I believe that’s all the vets we lost). Then we have to add the vets that we picked up… Weigman, and Lilja.
I’m not sure about how the other teams have lost/gained players, but I’m going to guess that we don’t get any comp picks this year.
Go Chiefs!!!!
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