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Madden '11 Player Ratings Give Us The Chiefs Starting Offense And Defense

The Madden '11 team ratings have already come out and the Chiefs were a disappointing 71.

Madden has now released the player ratings and the starting lineup is about what we expect.

Notable differences: Casey Wiegmann as the starter, Jarrad Page is listed as a strong safety and Eric Berry as a free safety and Derrick Johnson is rated below Demorrio Williams at inside linebacker.

Here's the full lineup, according to Madden '11 ratings:

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Offense

WR: Dwayne Bowe (84), Chris Chambers (82), Dexter McCluster/Jerheme Urban (70)

TE: Leonard Pope (75)

RB: Thomas Jones (88), Jamaal Charles (87)

OL: Brandon Albert (78), Brian Waters (85), Casey Wiegmann (85), Ryan Lilja (82), Ryan O'Callaghan (76)

QB: Matt Cassel (78)

Defense

SS: Jarrad Page (78)

FS: Eric Berry (84)

CB: Brandon Flowers (85), Brandon Carr (72), Javier Arenas (71)

OLB: Tamba Hali (80), Mike Vrabel (77)

ILB: Demorrio Williams (82), Derrick Johnson (76)

DE: Glenn Dorsey (78), Tyson Jackson (75)

NT: Ron Edwards (74)

Here's the full list of ratings.

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Not too bad

I’d still say Page is too high. And Pope. The mid 70s is usually where you can dip into Free Agency and get someone even better instantly.

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by webby37 on Jul 1, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe in Madden

Because you would emphasize pass catching and speed but for the Chiefs, I think Pope is OK.

by Joel Thorman on Jul 1, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Pope is ok too.

If anything Page should be between 70 & 75 (he really set himself back last season)

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go figure.

Charles, Flowers and Hali are all to low. We can’t even get any 90+ love for our studs.

Page won’t even be on the team.

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Not saying Tamba should be a 90...

But I don’t think it would be crazy to make him an 89. Charles should definitely be a 90 or higher. Flowers could stand to be at 90 too.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'll just have to wait til the season is in full gear...

If EA freakin’ stays on top of their updates, we could see a lot of our guys getting up in the Ratings. Charles will get in the 90’s (at least 91). Tamba needs a very productive year to get into the 90’s. With a couple of picks and big plays I see Berry and Flowers getting into the 90’s. They’re close as it is.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a great question

I was thinking Demorrio and DJ should each be 77-78, and Hali about an 84-85. I figured Charles and Jones would each be just below 90, but with high potential for Charles to move up rapidly. I think Chambers is a better WR than Bowe at this point.

I think the place they’re spot-on is with the defensive linemen.

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by burntorangehorn on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colquitt got a 91

apparently ESPN thinks he is our only stud.

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by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whoopty-effin-doo.

So when you can’t convert a first down (because your offense is rated pretty damn low, IMO) at least you know you can pin ’em deep with your punter… and then defend them with a sub-par defense.

I gotta tell ya, I was planning on buying this one. But come on. EA couldn’t give us one 90+ player to use. I’m not sure that’s fair, or accurate.

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont own a copy of Madden yet

I just bought a PS3 a couple months ago and have been waiting for this game ever since, so it will be a must-buy for me. I hope R2J_24 is right though, that EA will update some of the ratings once the season gets rolling.

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by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I Agree

How can so many people say that Flowers has Pro Bowl potential this year and call him a 85? Rediculous!
I think Tamba Hali started out as a 65 last year and EA moved him up about 20 points in the updates, they are still missing the ball. Hali was a Pro Bowl Caliber player last year! High 80’s at the least.
Charles, I am OK with, so long as they got his speed and quickness right.
Carr is way too low, Should likely be a couple of points below where Flowers is now.
Dorsey and Jackson might be a couple of points low, but not too much… Relatively, Edwards is too high…

by Skrappy on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Albert is too low, should be mid 80’s

What I really do not get is McCluster, if everyone thought he was one of the top playmakers in the country last year and has incredible ability, why is he not rated way higher. The only knock on him was size, which by the way there is no penalty for in the game, so how could he be so low? I bet $1 Million Bucks that if the Eagles had picked him right after us, his Rating would be 15 Points Higher! Guarenteed!

by Skrappy on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a rookie

Rookies never get rated that high, if you look at his individual stats he’s the fastest, has the best acceleration, best agility, and second best hands on the team. He’ll make a huge jump in the second year of franchise mode as will Berry and Asamoah

by RamX21 on Jul 1, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

These seem reasonable..

Maybe a shave off or put on by 3 points or so for some of the guys but it definately gets me excited for August.

I hate waiting.

by WMR on Jul 1, 2010 10:17 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

How does the star of your offense being rated an 87 get you excited?

I kind of wanted to get Madden ‘11, but come on. They didn’t give us a single player that could whoop a teams ass on his own… even though Jamaal showed a few times last year that he could do that.

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, just like people were saying about the FOX Top 100 Players

Jamaal just needs to show his consistency. If he prooves to be a Chris Johnson, then expect him to be in the 91-95 range.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Consistency?

He has an NFL career YPC over 5. So for two years, every time he’s touched the ball he’s gained (on average) half a first down. He came in last year and totally kicked ass for what, 8 games, accumulating Chris Johnson type numbers. He BROKE the Chiefs freaking franchise record for rushing yards… against a division rival. What does this guy have to do to get some respect? Capture Osama Bin Laden?

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would show him a lot of respect

if he did capture Osama. Gotta admit, that would be impressive. I don’t see Osama hiding in the end zone though and I see Charles spending a lot of time there.

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by Fozzyboyd on Jul 1, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he proves to be Chris Johnson

then why the heck do you have it as 91-95? If he proves to be a Chris Johnson he wll be at 98-99

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by KC Nate on Jul 1, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because he won't ever be recognized the way Chris Johnson is... Because he's a Chief.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

IMO Johnson shouldn't even be 99

Nor should All Day be lower

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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 1, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Madden should do a throwback game...

Madden ’89.

Bo Jackson could have a 560 rating, Okoye could have a 490, the REAL LT could have 1546, and DT could have a modest 16000

by bansky on Jul 1, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he leads the league in rushing like Chris Johnson he'll get the recognition

You can’t play the small market card when comparing KC to Nashville.

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by jmcgoblue on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I wouldn't worry too much about it

Madden rankings are pretty much always based on what everyone thought in the second half of the previous season.

They’re too busy finishing the game to really keep up with training camps and all that. There will always be some pretty awful injustices in every Madden release because people who don’t / can’t / won’t follow every team as closely as their devout fans will, are assigning things values based solely on a handful of numeric values – against attributes which often aren’t really physically measurable.

In a couple more years, using the Chiefs in Madden (2013!) will be like playing on easy mode. Til then, we just have to realize that the ratings will lag behind.

The Chiefs in Madden 2011 are going to look (numerically) like the real chiefs did against the Browns, Cowboys, etc last year.

In the meantime, it feels good knowing something about this team that they don’t. =)

Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.

by TRSChief on Jul 1, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

See comment below about hiring 32 people and assigning each of them a team to follow.

It doesn’t seem like something that should be a problem… unless you’re too freaking cheap to fork out the couple hundred thousand required to pay the “scouts” (Which will come back to you ten-fold from sales).

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, it'd be silly to invest that kind of money into something like that

When it’s a complete and total crapshoot trying to guess about an athlete’s abilities and assign them a numerical in-game rating.

Plus consider the context.

There are only so many top-rated players in the game, the vast majority have to be ‘average’, so that there is – well – an average, that the top players can stand out against.

I believe in Jamaal as much as anyone here. But his ridiculous breakout games were against terrible run defenses, an argument that has been brought up as a counterpoint by a lot of analysts. I’m pretty confident about his ability to tear through good defenses too, but he hasn’t had the opportunity to do it yet.

So based purely on facts, the high 80’s rating is probably pretty reasonable given the info they have go do.

Same could be said about most of the ratings. Our beloved Chiefs have been awful for the last three years. Several 90+ guys (in game terms) would make the team play well outside of what we, in all reality, have been.

So then the fans of the other 31teams are alienated because the 2-14 / 4-12 Chiefs are beating up on everyone when they, in all honest, shouldn’t.

Maybe just mellow out a bit about some silly arbitrary video game numerical ratings. Then once the regular season kicks in and the players are playing above those ratings, they get adjusted by EA as the season goes on. So there’s nothing to worry about.

Unless they really do play like crap again for another season (which I doubt), and then they won’t have to bother making adjustments.

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by TRSChief on Jul 1, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh how I desire an edit feature.

“..given the info they have go do” should obviously be “…given the info they have to go on”.

Coffee must’ve worn off at that point. o.O

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by TRSChief on Jul 1, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wiegman seem a little high?

Thought Albert Shoud at least crack an 80.

by dwil2009 on Jul 1, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Weigman is pretty solid.

I think Albert is low becase he was one of the LTs at the bottom of most sacks allowed last season. By LT terms, he’s right where he should be, unless he prooves otherwise.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Wiegman seem a little high?"

Nah, he’s just a really laid back kind of guy.

Besides, Haley would skin him a live.

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by TRSChief on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

This seems on par for EA.

Bunch of freaking idiots.

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup and Succop got a 79...

he needs to atleast be a low 80s.. I know hes a kicker but come on

by tomahawk44 on Jul 1, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't see how hard it is to employ about 32 people,

And assign one person to “scout” a particular team, making sure the roster is correct and getting the low down on the up and coming players for that team.

Bunch of mouth breathing retards over there at EA. All they’re after is a piece of the cash-cow pie that is the NFL.

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm saying...

EA is definitely losing some purchasers. Their inconsistency last game in their updates.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You looking at a good

3 million a year to employ 32 people once you include salary and other benefits. I guess they could contract out an maybe get it cheaper. I would agree that EA should put more effort into evaluting personnel ( at least have one person per division), but until they have serious competition (I.e. Their exclusivity deal with NFL ends) we won’t see that.

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by Scaryclouds on Jul 1, 2010 10:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Waters...

I think Waters is still one of the top lineman in the game. Don’t get me wrong, 85 is good, but I think he’s deserving of a better rating…

Good to see Lilja and Wiegmann in the 80s.

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by devself1 on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Asamoah = 75

Nice!!

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by devself1 on Jul 1, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't play

but is Williams really ranked over DJ or is that a typo?

by bansky on Jul 1, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

nope

They also got him ranked higher than Tamba and Vrabel

by BucktheFroncos on Jul 1, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats what leading a team in tackles will do for ya

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what pisses me off about EA

They REALLY don’t pay attention to what teams are REALLY doing. If they knew Chiefs football, they’d easily see that DeMarrio was a weak link (along with Mays). How in the hell would he be rated higher than Tamba? I understan Vrabel (age), but Tamba. C’mon now.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

its probably all rated off a stat sheet

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Jul 1, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

DJ needs to show a little more...

I for one KNOW that DJ is better than MR. Williams, but EA is probably looking for DJ to be a little more consistant.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's time to spam the EA developers with hate mail!!!

WHO’S WITH ME!!!!?!!!!!????

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I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are two ILB positions....they each get one.

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by TheK-man on Jul 2, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just sayin...

Lookin at the full line of Thomas Jones, Jammal Charles, and McCluster….I am going to TEAR IT UP on offence when this comes out!

by zyker on Jul 1, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Isn't it the best when...

People are always picking either the Cowboys, Vikings, Chargers, or Steelers… And who do we come out with? … THE CHIEFS. They never see it coming.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well the first thing we all should do is overreact..

So check lol. Second, it is a video game, and just like the media the Chiefs never get a lot of spotlight or credit. This isn’t news. I’m an avid Madden fan who plays year around right up until the new one comes out. IMO these ratings are decent. Yeah, they could be better. But EA does update throughout the season. If we play well I’m sure a bunch of our stars will jump into the next decade if they’re already close.

I hate waiting.

by WMR on Jul 1, 2010 10:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

LMAO!!!!!!

Dorsey is a 78 and Jackson is a 75…so u mean 2 tell me that Jackson is almost as equal as Dorsey? Clearly whoever does the grading has no clue or has never watched a KC game in thier lifetime! I’m not even going 2 go there with the Flowers on the cusp of being a Pro bowler and is only 1 point higher than Berry………………WOW!

by clockinoncloud09 on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Personally i wish NFL 2K still made games. Im tired of the constant glitches on Madden

*You cant throw a deep ball with out the ball stopping and changing direction. Its like an imaginary wall

*The blockers will sometimes just sit there without making contact with a blitzer

*Flowers should be a 87, Bowe a 86, DJ a 82, Tamba a 88.

by JC25FoMVP on Jul 1, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate the constant screen pass users.

The nano blitz is ridiculous.

Fortunately I learned how to be both. But there are so many crappy glitches in the game. AI blocking is so junky.

The worst thing I get is when a DT (300 + pounds) covers a WR and even in some cases gets a pick. Dumb!

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Unfortunately, it’s currently the best game in town.

And anytime someone starts to make a better product, EA just buys them out.

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by TRSChief on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

It’s the ONLY game in town because EA has exclusive rights with the NFL. I really hope they don’t renew and we can get the 2K games back. It will provide variety for the fans and force EA to step up their game. They don’t have any competition to worry about now.

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by TheScootness on Jul 2, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Carr

72 is awful, I feel like 75 at least for a 2 year starter.

Hali should be an 85 If for no other reason than his pas rushing prowess.

If O’Callahan is a 76 then Albert is at least an 80.

Vrabel better have awareness off the chart.

Charles a 95 speed.

T Jones an 80+ strength.

Croyle’s injury rating should by off the chart…like negative. (semi-joking)

Brian Waters should be a 99 in labor negotiations. (semi-serious)

O’Callahan’s Irish rating should be 100.
(100% serious)

Glenn Dorsey should be top Cajun seafood eating rating in league…Jackson a close 2nd. 90+ rating for both.

Cassel and Croyle a 99 in the hot, young wife category.

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by bigbe on Jul 1, 2010 11:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Thank you Joel!

You da man!

Keep up the awesome job man!

Eric Berry for Rookie of the Year

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by KC Nate on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

perfect timing joel

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I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was working out a reply about how good the moderators were

but i posted it just as joel banned him and erased his comments…i thought i had a good zinger too…one that would have been greened! glad to have him gone though.

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I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep I had to leave for a while

he was getting out of hand.

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just wanted to beat him at Madden. LOL

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

you should add his gamertag and see if he'll play

if he does take a pic of that score when your done :)

by tomahawk44 on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'll do that.

He’ll probably quit on me by half time.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

WAIT! Where's his Gamertag??

They erased all of his comments! AAHHHH!!!

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Joel

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you sir.

That dude… well let’s just say I best watch my language.

2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha

by Red N Gold Beast on Jul 1, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Easy to disagree with some of the player ratings, but the team sucked last year. It’s not like you can have a shitty team on the video game with multiple really good players.

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by JComp11 on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I think after all that, calls for a beer :)

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by KC Nate on Jul 1, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I was thinking about buying the game...

but after seeing these ratings, I’m thinking I’ll buy either NCAA Football 11 or NBA 2K11.

by supersoccersteven on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

It's hard... It's the only NFL game out there.

I’m addicted. Ask my wife.

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by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im looking forward to my first Madden game

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

1st??? Wow... Well, that's cool. Enjoy!

It has it’s ups and downs. I DO wish 2K would be doing NFL games, but I think EA bought out their license or something.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The last football game I had was

NFL93? The one for the SEGA 16 bit with montana on the cover…Ive been out of gaming ever since, but got back into it recently because I can afford it now

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm super competitive...

So, I just can’t stop playin.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice!

Yeah, I try to get in a game a day. I get home from work an hour before my wife does… Just enough time to handle a dude online.

Yeah, I’ve been on Madden since the Sega days.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice!

I get pretty competitive myself and Im pretty sure I will get addicted to it. Do I need to purchase a headset to play on PSN?

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might be ok if it were fellow APers or family on the other end tho.

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry...

I don’t like playing a game as the CHIEFS against the CHIEFS. hahahaha!

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

not the broncos or the raiders

or the cowboys
…im thinking…49ers? packers? saints? or titans

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I ever need to be another team

I’d go with the Ravens or the Pats (only because I love their throwback uniforms)

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could play the ravens

pretty much teams that i respect either for history or becuase they have players and coaches that i admire..or both

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ravens D is wicked.

Jets D is so hard to move the ball on if the player knows how to play them.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have to say that if I play 10 guys in 1 week....

7 of them quit on me.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's respectable.

I love playing guys who use different teams for a change. Always playing the Steelers, Vikings, Chargers, and Cowboys… Annoying.

And then the Saints won the Superbowl and suddenly I cant get away from guys who play as the Saints. Dumb.

I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.

by R2J_24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

For sure,

It also comes in handy with those stratigic military/war games. I’m not a fan of those but ALOT of people are.

Word.

by BigRedChief on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont get into the war games too much

I enjoy more of the role players rather than the FPS…I will have to look at them next time I head out to Best Buy

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I picked up a used copy of MotorStorm for $10 the other day...

Pretty sweet if you like crazy dirt/mountain tracks on bikes, ATVs, cars, and even big ass semi trucks.

Word.

by BigRedChief on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

no racing games for me

I own Uncharted 2, Demon’s Souls, Dragon Age:Origins, and Red Dead:Redemption…soon Madden 11

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uncharted 2 was pretty good and I have been play Red Dead.... pretty good so far.

I have kinda been boycotting Madden for like 5 years but I think I will break down and buy it this year. Thank god for the updateable rosters.

Word.

by BigRedChief on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what I am hoping on

I am thinking about getting uncharted (1) just to get the back story, I loved UC2….heard they are making a movie of the first one…i think you could get a decent movie out of the second one too

To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.

I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.

by chiefsandcigars on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly the best football game ever.

My favorite play, the fake punt run. The play was supposed to go to the right, but I broke it to the left. Easy TD 98% of the time.

by Archyrr on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speed is King in Madden

As with any of the Madden games all you have to look at is the “Speed” rating and “CAT” for the offense:
WR’s: Even though D. McCluster is rated 70 and Bowe is 84; McCluster has a SPD of 92 and CAT of 82 and Bowe has a SPD of 84 and CAT of 81? That makes McCluster my #2 or #1 WR! WTF Madden! The way I see it, you have Chamber/McCluster as your #1or #2 and Bowe as your #3 slot. Now we have a true deep treat. No more short to middle game.

RB’s: Jones and Charles = Thunder and Lightning, Jones for in between the tackles and Charles as the motion/spell/streak/dump back. Really everything will go through him. Even have both of them on the field at all times. Dual RB back field. Blocking for each other. They’ll never know if it’s run or pass.

TE’s: Should be no question… T. Moeaki SPD 81 and CAT 79? Meet your new BFF. In the Wii game I’m tired of Pope (SPD 75 and CAT of 74) catching in traffic trash all day and then in a PA, he’s wide open, YES!, I loft a big fat hoagie for a TD only to have it bounce off his head…. SIGH

I’m not at all offended with the rating… It makes it all that much more savory when I beat player who choose the super bowl players of that year, or the some other dominate team. It SHOULD be about what magic you can do with what you have. Putting the right people in the right place, creating a mismatch. Reading the D. Right?

by Phatcat73 on Jul 1, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I put my fastest receiver most times in the #3 WR spot or, slot receiver, unless he's got rather good, or above average hands.

Then on 3rd Down I’ll put in this year’s case, Charles and Jones in the backfield and if it’s short yardage hand it to Jones if it’s on a run. If it’s on pass I’ll have Jones block and Charles go to the flats. He’s usually always open under and gets the yards no problem wether it’s 10 yards or 3 yards.

Eric Berry for Rookie of the Year

2010 Kansas Chiefs Record Range of 8-8 to 10-6. Yes it's possible, Chiefs just have to perform and execute

by KC Nate on Jul 1, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Humm...

From these stats then the fastest would be McCluster and Q. Lawrence (CAT 64) :/ It would be better to have a “Hands” person in this spot since there are either going over the middle or as a out or post route. I still think Bowe would be better at this spot, he’s got he STR (79), CAT (81), and JMP (96).

 I really wish that Madden would have WR’s to be able to be put into a RB slot. Talk about X-mas early. Jones, Charles, and McCluster … I think my head just exploded.

by Phatcat73 on Jul 1, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, where's Kendrick Lewis?

That’s a pretty large omission, especially considering he might be one of our starting safeties on Opening Day.

by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 1, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Also, what in the hell is a Swagger rating for?

What impact could that possibly have on the video game? Excessive celebration penalties? Players getting fined? Increase in personal fouls against them?

by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

To quote A Christmas Story...
A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch.

Old Spice paid EA to have a sponsored stat. Incredible. It has no effect on the actual game except that it will make high SWG players celebrate more often on the way to the endzone. Corporate prostitution at its ugliest.

by Soria's Unibrow on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why don't they have...

a rating for Ho (HOS) slapping? or a DUI rating. It can be the pre game, mini-game. Keep your player out of trouble or they’ll get slapped with a suspension.

by Phatcat73 on Jul 1, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's something to this, of course

I really think EA should incorporate “suspension” ratings—that is, a rating that would be assigned based on the likelihood that a player will end up suspended, with higher being better. Guys like Tamba Hali get a 99, while Jared Allen or Pacman get something in the 40s.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 1, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Will say this my fellow chiefs fans i know the ratings right now are kind of low but when you really think about it go back and look at the chiefs roster from madden 10 and u can see taht the chiefs all around are better in madden 11

off the top of my head compare these madden 10 chiefs ratings from last year and u cna see the chiefs are indeed better

The QB’s ratings from madden 11 are the same from madden 10
Charles madden 10 ovr 86 next highest rb 66
For madden 11 Charles is an 87 Jones is an 88

mike cox and castille in madden 10 both were 70 ovr
cox in madden 11 70 ovr castille?

kc top 3 wr’s in madden 10
Bowe 85 ovr Chambers 79 ovr Wade 74 ovr ther others were under 68 ovr with copper at 66 ovr the next highest

kc wr’s in madden 11
Bowe 84 Chambers 82 Mccluster 70 Urban 70 the rest under 70

also in madden 10 the chuefs had on 2 lineman over 80 albert and waters

the others were 79 and below

in madden 11 the chiefs have 3 lineman rate ovr 80
Wiegmann 85 Waters 85 Lilja 82 and there depth is better as well

Linebacker ratings in madden 10
Vrabel 82 Hali 78 Johnson 76 Williams 74 Mays 71 others below 70
Madden 11 Willams 82 hali 80 vrabel 77 johnson 76 mays 71

cb in madden 10 flowers 85 carr 82 the other below 70
madden 11 Flowers 85 Carr 72 Arneas 71

safeies in madden 10 none over 80

Berry 84 Page 78 others not so good

as u can seefrom sofe of the examples the chiefs are better in madden 11 then madden 10

so all should be fun thanks

by ChiefsFan4Life8884 on Jul 1, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

These are just the starting ratings. If they go out there and produce like I know they will, their rating will improve. Madden 10 for example. Brandon Flowers started the season as like an over 77, ended the season as an overall 85… ( even though I believe he should be at least an 88 or 89…) He still got the rating he deserves. ALSO finally Hali is at least an 80. How is he not at least 85? this still blows my mind. Bullshit rating right there.

by KC-Mooma on Jul 1, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes!!

Dion Gales is on a video game…..Madden, nonetheless!!!

Go Gales!!

"One of the teams asked me a running back question," McCluster said. "They said when you have the ball, do you focus on the guy who's in front of you or the next guy.

"I told them 99% of the time, I'm going to make that first guy miss. Then, I'm onto the next."

by Matt_Grbac on Jul 1, 2010 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably the least important ranking there is!

I know Madden is very popular, and that is fine. I don’t play it myself, nor any video games, so maybe I underestimate the importance of the ratings. In fact, I have learned to basically ignore any preseason ratings, even fantasy football, which I am active in. If you compare the ratings now, and at the end of the season, or next preseason, you see just how innaccurate most of them are. I think that the mental makeup of the team can’t be measured, and that is as important as the physical abilities of players. The coaching staff also isn’t given enough credit, in how a team should perform. It’s the intangibles that generally make a bad player, or team, into a successful one. The physical talent, in the league, is fairly close. All of the players have to be pretty good, to just be in the league. It’s their desire, their confidence, and their willingness to make their own achievements, secondary to the team’s, that can seperate the good from the great. Stats are overrated, as they may not accurately display the importance of an individual player, to the team he is on, and the role he may play.

There once was a man from Nantucket......Nevermind.

by Racyman on Jul 2, 2010 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting to me to see that they ALSO, see Williams and Johnson starting

at the two ILB positions, with Belcher and Mays providing the depth. I’ve been arguing that this should be the case all along….

Thanks for the vindication Madden.

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by TheK-man on Jul 2, 2010 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

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