Chiefs May Have A Big Advantage Against The Chargers On Monday Night Football
by Joel Thorman on Jun 15, 2010 12:32 PM CDT
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PrintThe Chiefs will open the 2010 season against the Chargers on Monday Night Football. It's possible, according to recent reports, the Chargers will be missing arguably the second and third best players on the team.
LT Marcus McNeill and WR Vincent Jackson are reportedly willing to sit out the entire 2010 season because of a contract issue. Like Jarrad Page with the Chiefs, they're both restricted free agents. And, like Page, neither signed their tenders by Monday night meaning their salaries were cut.
This is only making them more and more upset.
GM A.J. Smith has a reputation around the league as a tough negotiator. He won't be bullied into signing long-term deals for McNeill and/or Jackson. And those two don't seem willing to sign absent a long-term deal.
Translation: The Chiefs may face the Chargers on the Monday night opener without both of these players.
That would be huge for the Chiefs.
So the Jarrad Page situation certainly isn't good but the Chargers are evidence things could be a whole heck-of-a-lot worse.
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A.J. Smith reminds me more and more of Carl every day.
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Hey JBJ
I noticed those predictions in your sig. When did you make them?
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
by austinchief on Jun 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
not compleely sure.
sometime before the end of last season.
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Good stuff.
It had been prior to he 09 season, that would have been upgraded to great stuff. Any more predictions?
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
by austinchief on Jun 15, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
well, the Clancy thing...I wasn't the only one saying that when they hired him....
I just didn’t put any of these in my sig until later. No more predictions for now. Just keeping the same ones until they all three materialize. ;)
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
I still don't understand the Page not signing
Does anyone have any insight into why he hasn’t signed his offer and what he’s hoping form?
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
The following is the response I got from Joel Thorman when I asked the same thing:
I hope you don’t mind Joel. I thought it was good insight, so I will share.
His response is as follows:
“Not quite sure why he’s not here. The Chiefs drafted two safeties so he knows he may not be in their future plans.
Look at it from his side: He’s close to being a free agent and wants to get a long-term deal to secure himself for the future. What if he signs his $1.7 million tender, then goes out there and tears his ACL and never plays again? That’s why players want long-term deals.
From his perspective, it’s hard to blame him."
Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Go Chiefs!
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Jun 15, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
I appreciate it. I still can’t see how a guy expects an immediate long term deal after being out injured last season on top of the CBA uncertainties. It seems to me that he’s having difficulties seeing this from the other side.
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
by austinchief on Jun 15, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree somewhat.
But you kind of answer your own question too. His injury last season is fresh in his mind and he is trying to safeguard against the same thing hurting his chances for a long term deal down the road. He wants the contract now.
Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Go Chiefs!
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Jun 15, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Which is exactly my point
If he gets injured, what is his value to the team? It seems that he’s trying to insure against what he thinks is a probable event. If I were the team, I’d have a hard time “insuring” him with a long term deal right now. Especially without a recent proven season.
Following the Chiefs more than I should be between late nights at a social networking software start up.
by austinchief on Jun 15, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally...
I would let him sit and rot. We can sure use him, but this is going to be another learning and rebuilding year. It’s a year that we should see a lot of improvement. So, to me, I would tell him to sign or don’t sign. We’ll move on like your not here. And if you do come on board fine. Otherwise, sit out the year and see if that helps your value for the next season. Good luck. You aren’t exactly Ed Reed dude. You are just a guy. And “just a guy” is replaceable.
Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Go Chiefs!
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Jun 15, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling that is what they did tell him, but in a few different words.
The Chiefs will finish .500 or better in 2010.
by Tony Perkins on Jun 15, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what happens when you hire your brother to be your agent
There’s a reason none of these family/friends as your agent work out. Have to keep business separate if you care about your own best interest. I’m sure that everyone who’s not close to Paige can see that he’s probably making a big mistake here…no matter what his motivation may be.
Predictions:
This year will be better
But if EVERY PLAYER...that had a tender to sign....
thought like Page…..the league would cease to exist as we know it.
Teams would be unable to hold any meaningful OTA’s, mini-camps, or training camps, because they would be in a perpetual and continuous state of contract negotions and re-negotiations. No one would ever be around to practice.
It’s a selfish act from a selfish person.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Sure. Page doesn't have a clue, and did not think this thing through...
and now he’s stuck, and doesn’t know how to get out of it and save his face….
“If you don’t know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else.”
Yogi Berra
So now, he’ll be going somewhere else.
It’s pretty simple.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Good for you.
It was just as true the first time as it was the third.
Besides, it takes saying things at least three times to get it through that thick skull of yours.
:)
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Your gonna see it another 50 times at least.
So you better get used to it. lol.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
I like what you are smokin' but..
You do realize that the guy that is ready to replace him his is pretty good too right? Tamba isn’t Ray Lewis either.
Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Go Chiefs!
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Jun 15, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The only difference between Tamaba and Ray Lewis....
Murder
Touchdown Machine: Dexter McCluster
Football Prodigy: Eric Berry
The revival of Derrick Johnson
The Manimal: Tamba Hali
AFC West Champs 2011
Our New Kansas City Chiefs!
and Ray Lewis plays the inside
and has never had a season with more than 5 sacks.. wrong guy to compare to …how about hes not a Derrick Thomas :)
you do realize Hali picked up three sacks against Ryan Clady
a MUCH better LT than Marcus McNeill AND Tra Thomas (the same Tra Thomas that is 35 years old and played in 8 games starting 3) right?
I'll agree with the minimum 3 sacks.
And I’ll raise you 2 by DJ
Touchdown Machine: Dexter McCluster
Football Prodigy: Eric Berry
The revival of Derrick Johnson
The Manimal: Tamba Hali
AFC West Champs 2011
Our New Kansas City Chiefs!
I'd be happy if the whole D is able to get 3 sacks
Hopefully Arrowhead will be packed & loud like it’s 1995.
Predictions:
This year will be better
Yea...that must be some gooood shit.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
bought season tickets to make sure I got MNF seats
The Chiefs will finish .500 or better in 2010.
by Tony Perkins on Jun 15, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the two of them sticking together
will work to their advantage. They’ll both have a new deal by the end of training camp. SD has been too close to being a championship team for too long, without them they’re nothing, and smith knows that. Hopefully, they’re not up to speed by week 1, though.
maybe so
but SD already signed Tra Thomas and WR Reed from the Bills. At first I thought it was a bluff, but then seeing this they may be prepared to roll with them.
Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.
Smith is a crafty businessman...
who knows what he has up his sleeve. But I can’t possibly see it working to his advantage to be missing those two guys. I hope for our sake he’s just turning into Al Davis;
I gotta agree here
They would have to play at least 6 games this season to get paid, so hopefully they miss the games against us
The 5th Dimension
#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jun 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Chiefs will finish .500 or better in 2010.
by Tony Perkins on Jun 15, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Whaaaaaaat?
noooooooooooooo!
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
By the way
How long do you think it will take for Logan Mankins to the Chiefs rumors to begin circulating?
Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Go Chiefs!
by ARROWHEADSHANE on Jun 15, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions
Not sure on that, on paper we don't look too bad at guard
so depending the price to get him, and the hefty contract, I’m highly doubting it happens.
The 5th Dimension
#29 Eric Berry
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jun 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yesterday. ;p
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Never.
We’re not going to trade away something AND dish out big money for a position that we’re set in.
Mark my words: Logan Mankins will not be a Chief… unless Brian Waters is moved.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Jun 15, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
We'd be trading away a big problem....
and solidifying a tough position to fill, and some big shoes to fill in Brian Waters…for the next 5 or 6 years, in one swift move.
This could be Waters last year. We don’t know. Plus, Brian Waters could be moved….or even traded to the Pats for Mankins. That would be ideal. I’m down for it.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Sign Page and trade him for Pollard
We cut the wrong one…
Touchdown Machine: Dexter McCluster
Football Prodigy: Eric Berry
The revival of Derrick Johnson
The Manimal: Tamba Hali
AFC West Champs 2011
Our New Kansas City Chiefs!
I've seen this headline in the past...
That we have an advantage because X is out or Y is banged up.. people seem to forget we’re still void of talent. Unless Rivers, Sproles and half the defense are inactive, the Chiefs have no advantage even at this point in time.
Really? We're void of talent?
Flowers, Berry, Hali, Carr… I don’t think “void” was a good choice of wording there.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Jun 15, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
add Charles, Bowe, Chambers, and Dorsey to that list
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Ok...get on your surf board blondie....and ride a wave...
of black oil….all the way back to San Diego. Okey Dokey sonny?
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Vjax suspension?
I’ve heard several things about his DWI’s and possible suspension, but has anyone heard a definite answer on this?
by Chief Arrowhead on Jun 15, 2010 1:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yes...
he will be out for sure even if he decides to play. I think McNeil will be there. Although, if I were Smith I would want to compensate Jackson first.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jun 15, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
not being argumentative
why would you choose to compensate a WR rather than your franchise LT? i would pay the LT every single time instead of the DUI, about to be suspended, WR.
I think its...
easier to find another franchise LT over a game changing WR. Plus, McNeil is older and rookie offensive tackles can come in and play right away.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jun 15, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
see, i see it the exact opposite
for the success of that offense, they have to have that LT. Rivers needs it and so does this years first round draft pick. and you think McNeill is old??? he was drafted in 2006, he’s 26! you’re quick to put people out to pasture!
Ok...
you’re right. I take that back. I could have sworn he was 29. Anyway, they should pay McNeil and trade Jackson.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Jun 15, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally.....
I hope they play.
I want the Chargers to be at their full measure of talent and strength.
That way, there can be no excuses for them by the media, when the Chiefs….
STOMP THEIR FREAKIN HEADS INTO THE TURF.
:))))
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Full strength, half strength, empty strength, it won't matter. The Chiefs have something to prove and San Diego is in there way.
"Crunch" Berry
"Duster" McCluster
We have something to prove to San Diego specifically after the way they handled us in 2009
The Chiefs will finish .500 or better in 2010.
by Tony Perkins on Jun 15, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed...but the press has a way of saying that ...
our opposition played poorly or that they were missing key players…and that must be why the Chiefs won….instead of just reporting….that the Chiefs won.
That drives me crazy.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Yeeeehaaaaw!!!
It was bound to happen brother.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Damn...now who am I gonna argue with
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
I'd say the Chargers are more at a disadvantage because:
1. It’s the first Monday Night game at Arrowhead in, what, 5/6 years?
2. It’s the first opener at home in quite a few years.
3. It’s the unveiling of the new Arrowhead to Chiefs fans.
4. The place will be undoubtedly sold out and ever seat filled.
5. We have Dexter McCluster
6. We also have this guy called Eric Berry.
2/3 of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Eric Berry.
I guess now we KNOW how Pioli feels about safeties that high... hahahaha
by Red N Gold Beast on Jun 15, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
who?
To make a bad day worse, spend it wishing for the impossible.
I've had the same dream every night this week. I think it means that the spring season flopped and my subconscious has gone into reruns.
Hey! Stop what you're doin' cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and the style that you're used to...
by chiefsandcigars on Jun 15, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
that's why we want'em at full their full compliment.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
Gotta disagree with ya K
LOL, If we are to make the playoffs this year (you heard it here first) we need a bit of luck. SD is the biggest problem standing in our way to make that happen. I will take a W even if it is a forfeit because the whole team comes down with the flu. We must at least split with SD in order to have a chance. I hope they all over sleep for the plane that brings’em to town! I hope Phyllis Rivers isn’t watching where she is going as she is flipping the bird at fans on her way out of the tunnel and runs her pretty little head right up War Paint’s bungus (or something similar) on national TV. I don’t care how it gets done, it just has to happen.
The Chiefs are positioning themselves...
To make their own luck.
The Bolts don’t scare us anymore.
No one does.
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~
Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
We're going to S W
"The future ain't what it used to be." ~Yogi Berra~
Jerrell Powe for Chiefs NT in 1st round of the 2011 NFL draft: From Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
E E P the bolts this year.
and remember Mr. Drum, YOU heard it HERE first.
:)
Bye the way, it took me awhile to come around, but I’m now an Aiken_Drum fan.
"The future ain't what it used to be." ~Yogi Berra~
Jerrell Powe for Chiefs NT in 1st round of the 2011 NFL draft: From Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
We have a lot of new players...but the 2 best players we have are...
P – Colquitt
K – Succup!
pride
Biggest advantage for the Chiefs is Arrowhead.
and the home of the CHIEFS!!!
by DuctTapeMessiah on Jun 15, 2010 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
How great would it be....
If they sat out on Monday night….Chiefs win, and then the GM goes, oh crap we need these guys and gives in and signs them to a bigger deal.
Yes indeed fellas!
Those scoundrels in San Diego, Spanos and Smith have done so much damage to the Chargers. Their attempts to either extort a new stadium out of an already bankrupt city or relocate to LA are finally coming home to roost.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
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