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Chiefs notebook: Moeaki looks good at tight end, while O’Connell struggles - KansasCity.com
Judging by his play in offseason practices and again on Saturday, O’Connell may have a difficult time making the roster. He had dropped several passes, including two in Saturday afternoon’s practice. The problem was so bad early last week that after one O’Connell drop, offensive coordinator Charlie Weis yelled, "That’s getting old, Jake."

Chiefs News Chiefs Update | Chiefs Football at BobGretz.com
And, he did it all with a bum left leg. The nature of his injury was one of those state secrets that the Chiefs keep these days from the media, fans and opponents. But understand that for every game and practice last year, Williams’ leg was wrapped in tape from his thigh to the middle of his calf. By the time the season was over, he alone may have put the trainers over their tape budget for the ‘09 season. Still, he did not miss a game.

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Chiefs coach Haley more comfortable heading into second season - KansasCity.com
Then Haley lived through last year, inheriting part of the mess and helping to orchestrate the rest, and learned why Parcells took life and his livelihood so seriously. Haley said the losses hurt more when you’re the man in charge, when it’s your decisions that cause a team and its community so much disappointment. Haley had been in coaching for years, but nothing had prepared him fully for being a NFL head coach. "There was no possible way to recreate the circumstances that I was going to be in," Haley said. "You have to live it. No matter how many mentors and guys I could call and talk to who would help me, there was no way to recreate being a head coach and all the things that came with it."

Croyle's passing the highlight of practice | Red Zone
But during a 7-on-7 passing drill when the Chiefs use no linemen on either side of the ball, Croyle was sharp. On a set of plays from inside the 20, Croyle made three straight crisp throws that resulted in touchdowns, one going to Dwayne Bowe, another to Tim Castille and the last to rookie Jeremy Horne.

2theadvocate.com | Featured LSU Stories | Time Out: Athletes look for life after sports — Baton Rouge, LA
In the weekend crash course, the first of its kind conducted by LSU Executive Education, the players attended lectures with titles like "The World of Sponsorship and Client Development." They listened to talks from people like Ruffin Rodrigue, the former LSU and World League offensive lineman turned successful Baton Rouge restaurateur. "This is part of an ‘it’ factor," said Kennison, the former NFL’s Fastest Man who said he plans to officially announce his retirement later this summer to concentrate on business ventures with his wife. "Do you get it, or do you not get it? Do you want to be able to withstand everything that’s thrown at you? Do you want to be able to survive in business?"

Insider Blog: Saturday at Mini-Camp
Backup QB Brodie Croyle was on fire to start seven-on-seven drills in the AM practice session. He opened with three consecutive TD passes, all on similar corner routes that required him to thread the football between defenders, yet add enough touch to lead his receivers. The recipients of Croyle’s hat trick of TDs were TE Tony Moeaki, RB Tim Castille and WR Jeremy Horne.

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Weis is right

Drop passes are getting old

Can we be the AFC West Champions in 2010. You better believe it
The Chiefs offence will EXPLODE in 2010

by trentchiefsfan on Jun 13, 2010 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah Croyle looked good...

with no pressure or having to account for the pass rush

by imur#1fan on Jun 13, 2010 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

better than you can do ... and noteworthy enough that it was apparantly better than Cassel did

face it, Croyle has a LOT of good things going for him … and we MIGHT have won more games last year had he started instead of Lurch

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jun 13, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna disagree on the win more games with Croyle point

Yea he can throw the ball, that was never a question, but in game situations with pressure he flat out doesn’t win. Im sure Ryan Leaf used to light up 7 on 7 drills too

by RamX21 on Jun 13, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too. Croyle has a much better arm than Cassel.

He could be critical to a successful season if Cassel get’s hurt. And there’s a good chance of that happening as we have seen many times, all over the NFL.

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~

Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.

by TheK-man on Jun 13, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Backup QB is the 2nd most important position on a football team.

That comes straight from the mouth of Bill Bellichick.

I for one am glad to know we have a good one. I also find comfort in the possibility that if Cassel were to go down with injury, we have a guy with the potential to not only win games for us but who also could emerge as a budding star QB. Croyle has the potential to be a GREAT QB now that this offense has some leadership (coaching, scheme, running game etc) and an O-line that can keep him off his back.

I don’t want Cassel to get hurt by any means but, IO have to admit, I am curious as to what a guy like Croyle could do in a good offense. Could be electric.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 13, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

That means third string QB is the 3rd most important position on the team.

Doesn’t it.

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~

Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.

by TheK-man on Jun 13, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Croyle would be good insurance.
Nay sayers aside

Rule 49. " Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 13, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

he did ok in Balt game last year, esp considering it was first game with a new system, new coach, new scheme, new playbook and a line that had no idea who to block or when

an entirely new offense that had been in place all of 2 weeks and he did alright … after that Cassel started every game

I would have like to see Croyle get more starts last year … I honestly believe he could have done well given the chance

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jun 13, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Better than you can do"

Weakest argument one can make about any player. Obviously every player on the team can play better than the fans, that doesn’t make them free of criticism.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 13, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

HIV, yeah I know ... just tired of people riding his (Croyle) case ... he is in some respects far better than Cassel

and I’m not at all happy that the so-called “open competition” and “best player at every position” policy didn’t seem apply to QB … Cassel is the Sacred Cow (at least for another (this) season, that’s apparant … Croyle has better physical skills and abilities, that’s also apparant

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jun 13, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Croyle... he did get a bad rap with injuries.

I think he can throw the ball a bit better than Cassel, but I disagree with the better physical skills and abilities. Cassel’s footwork is a little better than Croyle, and Cassel seems to be much more durable than Croyle.

If Croyle was starting you would most likely see less sacks causing less 3rd and longs… I will argue that Croyle is one of the best backup quarterbacks in the league. Towards the end of the season he was calling plays in to Cassel, and I remember one of the TD’s being accredited to him late in the season.

I believe the edge that Cassel has over Croyle is that Cassel is pretty clutch in the 4th quarter.

Go Chiefs!!!!

by ravenhawk on Jun 13, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

up ur's upamtn.

Croyle will never be a starter. Injury prone. Can’t read defenses. But just like you he’s a wanna be, but just doesn’t have “it”.

by imur#1fan on Jun 13, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

& it doesn't matter if he's better than me.

My career isn’t football. I’m a fan of the sport you D.A. But to make it more interesting…I’m better prepared for the NFL than you are. I can pass farther than you, run faster than you, think more quickly in pressure situations….Period!!

by imur#1fan on Jun 13, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny what talking about Croyle does

Don’t take things so personal.

Croyle’s a good back up. He did good in the Baltimore game and just like last year he’s impressing in the offseason. Croyle will be a great back up to cover 2-3 games. I am a croyle fan (more of his wife) and he got a bad deal with Herm and his veteran leader was Huard.

by 8k1c6 on Jun 13, 2010 12:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

you're welcome to any opinion you wish to have, that's the nice thing about AP

and we may have differing apoinions on this, that or the other … a lot of things, perhaps … I simply disagree with you assessment of Croyle … for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that he;’s already proven he has a better grasp of opposing defenses than Cassel who had a “deer in the headlights” look way too often last year

Croyle has better “pocket awareness” and a far better arm than Cassel … given the above, and these two, those are three huge positives in any QB in this league

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jun 13, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a big fan of Croyles now.

In the beginning, he had “happy feet”, like Thigpen. He would give up on his pocket way too soon out of fear, break plays and start throwing on the run. But that was when he had no protection, and was in fear for his life.

I would love to see what he could do with this years line.

There’s a chance in my mind, that if Cassel goes down, Brodie will take over and do so well, that they won’t be able to put Cassel back in when he becomes healthy again.

It is possible.

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~

Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.

by TheK-man on Jun 13, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

well said, K-Dude ... he won't go in unless Cassel goes down or it's a wildly out of hand game

but he really COULD flourish with the line and RBs and WRs we have now … sadly he was starting with 2.7 as his “blocking back” … and people wonder why he got hurt, duh

"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Whitlock Rocks!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!

by upamtn on Jun 13, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec on the "blocking back"

I don’t think people realized how absolutly lazy 2.7 was on that. He flat out didn’t do it.

Smile, its the second best things you can do with your lips!

by fleetmarine on Jun 13, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be great to see him get some garbage time reps in big wins.

Be great to see him prosper in relief, if Cassel were breached.

You look at the hits he took in the Ravens and maybe you make the same conclusions I did:

  1. Croyle’s mechanics are pretty faultless, but he’s still “processing.” Wasn’t yet a complete QB in terms of instant grasp of the play called and his reads. I think they simplified a lot of that for him. Tom Brady worked his way through the “processing” phase before coming onto the field in relief of the injured Bledsoe. Same guy a year or two earlier, and Brady may be just an injury-prone footnote in NFL history. Then again, he wasn’t elevated to #2 until he showed the higher-level mastery of the position (looking-off the safety, rapidly working his way through his checkdowns…)
  2. Croyle looks pretty tough, took some major league hits and got right back up. But I didn’t have the impression that he could survive a whole season behind the ‘09 line, the way Cassel did. Don’t underestimate the sheer toughness and determination of Cassel. He won’t be easy to unseat. OTOH, the coaches won’t hesitate to pull the trigger if they feel like he’s the weak link and Croyle can do it better.

by hmills110 on Jun 13, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

(off subject)

DBowe82 changed his twitter account to http://twitter.com/Dwaynebowe82.

I hates me some donkeys...

by ChiefDog on Jun 13, 2010 8:45 AM CDT reply actions  

"I steadfastly refuse to tweet".

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~

Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.

by TheK-man on Jun 13, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just too much man.

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.." ~Yogi Berra~

Chiefs NT of the future: Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss; Height: 6-2; Weight: 330; Projected 40 Time: 5.35; Projected Round (2011): 1-2; The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 Tackles for Loss and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.

by TheK-man on Jun 13, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we going to get updates from tmw's function?

For all the people that are not in the area and wont be able to make it? Kind of like an open thread or something…..

Are we the team to beat in 2010? I sure think so! Go Chiefs.

by jrcnc on Jun 13, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

CROYLE SUCKS!

 I am definitely NOT a Matt Cassel fan, I think he’s allright, but unless the other 10 positions on offense are well above average, that’s all he’s gonna be ALLRIGHT. BUT Croyle….?!!! COME ON NOW!…that guy freakin’ SUCKS!. I am VERRRYY surprised he’s still on the team, he got his chances with the Herm/Peterson crap, and he didn’t take advantage of it, you want the definition of injury prone, think Croyle. Don’t mean to be hard on the guy nothing personal, but he’s just not an NFL starting QB, MAAYYYBEEE a 3rd stringer.

by kcno58 on Jun 13, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

If I remember correctly

The shoulder injury he got was against the Pat’s right after Pollard knocked out Brady for the year. Can’t convince me that wasn’t payback for the Brady injury. The second one was a shredded knee and even the great Tom Brady couldn’t shake off that kind of injury. I don’t know where you get Croyle sucks injury prone maybe. The teams Croyle started on sucked as bad or worse than he did, also consider Croyle was and still is in the beginning of his career and it takes time to grow into the position.

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by dklogue1 on Jun 14, 2010 3:16 AM CDT reply actions  

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